On Jun 12, 10:03*am, "Upscale" wrote:
Hi,
I'm about to buy a trim router and looking for a few recommendations. I've
read some online reviews, but none seem to pick out a particular brand that
stands out above the others. I'm tempted to get a Dewalt DW673K trimmer, but
thought I'd ask for a few recommendations first.

Thanks

That VS Bosch Colt works pretty good. The Ridgids suck. Of course,
Festool makes a nice one LOL... only $ 500-ish.
In the countertop business...yes, I build counter tops, the Makita has
always been a work horse. Just don't drop it. Adjustments are a bit
finicky but will stay put.

Upon further reflection, I'd suggest the Makita. You can use bits
without bearings which only gum up anyway.

Hi,
I'm about to buy a trim router and looking for a few recommendations. I've
read some online reviews, but none seem to pick out a particular brand that
stands out above the others. I'm tempted to get a Dewalt DW673K trimmer, but
thought I'd ask for a few recommendations first.

Thanks

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:03:14 -0500, Upscale wrote:

Hi,
I'm about to buy a trim router and looking for a few recommendations. I've
read some online reviews, but none seem to pick out a particular brand that
stands out above the others. I'm tempted to get a Dewalt DW673K trimmer, but
thought I'd ask for a few recommendations first.


I'm looking at trim routers myself. The Bosch Colt gets a lot of good
reviews, but the Makita has better visibility - including a couple of LED
lights to illuminate the work. I think that's what I'm going to get.

"Charley" wrote in message
I have the Dewalt and I got the complete kit with all the bases, even
including the seaming base and I have been very satisfied with it. There
are
some other brands on the market that have clear bases so you can better
see
the cutting point and the Dewalt doesn't come with a clear base, so I made
my own from clear Lexan.. That was my only complaint with it and I have
solved it very easily.

I was going to buy a Dewalt trimmer, but I had great difficulty finding a
dealer here in Canada. So, on the recommendation of a dealer I trust, I went
with a Makita, but upgraded to one with a chip deflector and an integrated
work light. With a little effort, I should be able to jury-rig some sort of
vacuum attachment to the chip deflector.

On Jun 12, 11:45*am, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:03:14 -0500, Upscale wrote:
Hi,
I'm about to buy a trim router and looking for a few recommendations. I've
read some online reviews, but none seem to pick out a particular brand that
stands out above the others. I'm tempted to get a Dewalt DW673K trimmer, but
thought I'd ask for a few recommendations first.

I'm looking at trim routers myself. *The Bosch Colt gets a lot of good
reviews, but the Makita has better visibility - including a couple of LED
lights to illuminate the work. *I think that's what I'm going to get.

Mine are old, they have two little candles next to the slot where you
stick the key to wind it.

On Jun 12, 9:03*am, "Upscale" wrote:
Hi,
I'm about to buy a trim router and looking for a few recommendations. I've
read some online reviews, but none seem to pick out a particular brand that
stands out above the others. I'm tempted to get a Dewalt DW673K trimmer, but
thought I'd ask for a few recommendations first.

Thanks

I have a Bosch Colt, Has a lot of power, I really like the slow start.
For my two cents this is a great trim router....

Randy
http://nokeswoodworks.com

On Jun 12, 10:45 am, Larry Blanchard wrote:

I'm looking at trim routers myself. The Bosch Colt gets a lot of good
reviews, but the Makita has better visibility - including a couple of LED
lights to illuminate the work. I think that's what I'm going to get.

I think it would depend on what I was using it for. If was going to
do laminate work, I would look at the DeWalt. I have one with all the
attachements, and it is a really nice, smooth running router. The
dark bases didn't bother me as I was used to it. The big selling
point was all the accessories.

But if was to want a router for edging (only) of laminate and easing
over edges on wood, I would probably look to another one with a clear
base and an LED to let me see what the bit was doing.

Robert

2 good ones: http://patwarner.com/7310_subbases.html +
http://patwarner.com/pr20_subbase.html
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On Jun 12, 7:03*am, "Upscale" wrote:
Hi,
I'm about to buy a trim router and looking for a few recommendations. I've
read some online reviews, but none seem to pick out a particular brand that
stands out above the others. I'm tempted to get a Dewalt DW673K trimmer, but
thought I'd ask for a few recommendations first.

Thanks

On Jun 12, 10:59 am, Robatoy

Mine are old, they have two little candles next to the slot where you
stick the key to wind it.

I was thinking about you when I was reading this thread. I haven't
made a kitchen full of laminate in so many years I couldn't count
them. That's why the trim routers stay in their cases.

No matter how many years I have been contracting, it is still a thing
of joy for me to see a talented craft person apply their trade. I
love the guys that make it look easy.

To see a full time top/laminate guy apply his trade quickly, easily
and accurately in a large odd shaped kitchen is sure a humbling
experience. That is why my laminate efforts are confined to bathroom
vanities and kitchen islands.

That is why my laminate trimmer has very low miles, and all the
attachments even less.

Robert

On Jun 12, 2:22*pm, "Upscale" wrote:
wrote in message
But if *was to want a router for edging (only) of laminate and easing
over edges on wood, I would probably look to another one with a clear
base and an LED to let me see what the bit was doing.

I'll be starting off by trimming some 3/8" acrylic to be used for shelving
for an entertainment unit. Considering what I've read about trim routers,
they appear to versatile little tools. I'm sure I'll be able to invent a
number of uses for the one I'm buying.

If you are going to be trimming 3/8 acrylic....are you sure you want
to use just a trim router?
VS is a must.

wrote in message
But if was to want a router for edging (only) of laminate and easing
over edges on wood, I would probably look to another one with a clear
base and an LED to let me see what the bit was doing.

I'll be starting off by trimming some 3/8" acrylic to be used for shelving
for an entertainment unit. Considering what I've read about trim routers,
they appear to versatile little tools. I'm sure I'll be able to invent a
number of uses for the one I'm buying.

On Jun 12, 12:31 pm, Robatoy wrote:
On Jun 12, 2:22 pm, "Upscale" wrote:

wrote in message
But if was to want a router for edging (only) of laminate and easing
over edges on wood, I would probably look to another one with a clear
base and an LED to let me see what the bit was doing.

I'll be starting off by trimming some 3/8" acrylic to be used for shelving
for an entertainment unit. Considering what I've read about trim routers,
they appear to versatile little tools. I'm sure I'll be able to invent a
number of uses for the one I'm buying.

If you are going to be trimming 3/8 acrylic....are you sure you want
to use just a trim router?
VS is a must.

3/8" is probably too much for a laminate router. That is a load for
one of these small machines, and unless you have found some really,
really easy stuff to cut it will not be pretty when you finish cut as
the router won't have enough power to push through the cuts evenly.
Trying to buff out rough spots or irregularities in acrylic from an
uneven cut is nothing less than painful.

Just thinking out loud here... you might want to reconsider unless you
have personal experience cutting the particular acrylic material.

Robert

wrote:

On Jun 12, 12:31 pm, Robatoy wrote:
On Jun 12, 2:22 pm, "Upscale" wrote:

wrote in message
But if was to want a router for edging (only) of laminate and easing
over edges on wood, I would probably look to another one with a clear
base and an LED to let me see what the bit was doing.

I'll be starting off by trimming some 3/8" acrylic to be used for
shelving for an entertainment unit. Considering what I've read about
trim routers, they appear to versatile little tools. I'm sure I'll be
able to invent a number of uses for the one I'm buying.

If you are going to be trimming 3/8 acrylic....are you sure you want
to use just a trim router?
VS is a must.

3/8" is probably too much for a laminate router. That is a load for
one of these small machines, and unless you have found some really,
really easy stuff to cut it will not be pretty when you finish cut as
the router won't have enough power to push through the cuts evenly.
Trying to buff out rough spots or irregularities in acrylic from an
uneven cut is nothing less than painful.

Just thinking out loud here... you might want to reconsider unless you
have personal experience cutting the particular acrylic material.

Not sure about acrylic, but I did 1/2 inch nominal pine with a VS Bosch
Colt, 3/8" Veritas straight bit with bearing, taking off up to 1/4" in a
pass. It worked fine, didn't bog it down either, but noisy as hell.

Light sand, and finish, wife was impressed, so....
;-)

--
Froz...

Somebody wrote:

I'll be starting off by trimming some 3/8" acrylic to be used for
shelving
for an entertainment unit. Considering what I've read about trim
routers,
they appear to versatile little tools. I'm sure I'll be able to
invent a
number of uses for the one I'm buying.

When working with acrylic, the magic words are "QUICK" and "FAST".

Take light cuts and don't allow the router bit to slow down, if you
want a clean cut.

Using any trim router, I'd limit cut to 1/16"/pass with the final cut
being 1/32".

Taping the cut line and cutting 1/8" proud with a good bi-metal saber
blade would be a good start.

Lew

On Jun 12, 5:24*pm, "
wrote:
On Jun 12, 12:31 pm, Robatoy wrote:

On Jun 12, 2:22 pm, "Upscale" wrote:

wrote in message
But if *was to want a router for edging (only) of laminate and easing
over edges on wood, I would probably look to another one with a clear
base and an LED to let me see what the bit was doing.

I'll be starting off by trimming some 3/8" acrylic to be used for shelving
for an entertainment unit. Considering what I've read about trim routers,
they appear to versatile little tools. I'm sure I'll be able to invent a
number of uses for the one I'm buying.

If you are going to be trimming 3/8 acrylic....are you sure you want
to use just a trim router?
VS is a must.

3/8" is probably too much for a laminate router. *That is a load for
one of these small *machines, and unless you have found some really,
really easy stuff to cut it will not be pretty when you finish cut as
the router won't have enough power to push through the cuts evenly.
Trying to buff out rough spots or irregularities in acrylic from an
uneven cut is nothing less than painful.

Just thinking out loud here... you might want to reconsider unless you
have personal experience cutting the particular acrylic material.

Robert

I cut 1/2" acrylic for a living. 3 1/2 HP and I trip breakers and
break 1/2" bits.
3/8' would be 75% of that load... 2 1/4HP minimum, if they're real
horses.
You always run the risk of the crap melting and puddling around your
bit seizing any and all opportunities to burn, break and destroy
stuff.

I have even shaped 1" thick clear acrylic. The more aggressive the bit
(chip removal) and the more horsepower, the better.

I use trim routers to pick my nose and dislodge that stubborn
pepperoni from my teeth. 2 HP to clean my nails. A weedwhacker to comb
my hair. I use a 20 pound sledge to hang a picture of my favourite
mom!

"Robatoy" wrote in message
I'll be starting off by trimming some 3/8" acrylic to be used for
shelving

If you are going to be trimming 3/8 acrylic....are you sure you want
to use just a trim router? VS is a must.

What is "VS"? The pieces I'm trimming have already been cut to size on a
tablesaw. Unfortunately, the cut guarantee was limited to 1/8" tolerances.
All pieces are about 3/32" too wide, so I'll be trimming off that amount or
maybe a little more. If the trim router I ordered isn't up to the job, I'll
find out pretty quick. However, like any other tool, it will be a learning
process and I won't be unduly upset if it can't handle the job. I know I'll
be using it for other things too. Worse case, I'll use my 25 year old 1hp
Black and Decker router. If *that* doesn't work then I've got my Makita 3hp
plunge router.

I won't need to buff the edges, because it's the shelving sides that need to
be trimmed and they won't be very apparent from the front. The front facing
edges are already buffed.

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
Taping the cut line and cutting 1/8" proud with a good bi-metal saber
blade would be a good start.

I assume you're talking about taping the line so the edges don't shatter too
much? As I mentioned in a previous messages, the acrylic has already been
cut on a tablesaw, but it's about 3/32" oversize so that's all I need to
trim off with whatever router I use. But, thanks for the suggestion. I'll
keep it in mind when I decide to use the 48" x 30" leftover waste piece from
the full sheet I purchased.

Can I assume that a decent jigsaw blade would work as well as a saber blade
to cut this stuff?

"Upscale" wrote in message
...

"Robatoy" wrote in message

What is "VS"? The pieces I'm trimming have already been cut to size on a
tablesaw.
I won't need to buff the edges, because it's the shelving sides that need
to
be trimmed and they won't be very apparent from the front. The front
facing
edges are already buffed.

The Bosch Colt is a variable speed router. On a router that small, if you
use a rabbet or cove bit. the vibration at top speed is distracting. By
slowing the speed, the tool becomes really solid and easy to control. On a
small router, I would not want to be without it. You might want to check
Pat Warner's web site. He has a lot to say about the router and I agree with
him.

"Upscale" wrote:

Can I assume that a decent jigsaw blade would work as well as a
saber blade
to cut this stuff?

May not be correct, but I use "saber saw" and "jig saw"
interchangeably; however, unless the blades are Bosch Bi-Metal, they
are unacceptable in my shop.

Leave it to the Swiss.

The trick when cutting acrylic is to keep the blades sharp and don't
rush it.

Excess heat generated by cutting is your enemy.

Lew

On Jun 13, 11:42*am, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
"Upscale" wrote:
Can I assume that a decent jigsaw blade would work as well as a
saber blade
to cut this stuff?

May not be correct, but I use "saber saw" and "jig saw"
interchangeably; however, unless the blades are Bosch Bi-Metal, they
are unacceptable in my shop.

Leave it to the Swiss.

The trick when cutting acrylic is to keep the blades sharp and don't
rush it.

Excess heat generated by cutting is your enemy.

Lew

Yes, and you want some course teeth with a bit of a rake. Metal-
cutting blades will not work well...melts the plastic. The Bosch T101B
works great on acrylic even it has no 'external rake' and the 101AO,
if you go really slow and if you need to make tight turns.
I exclusively use Bosch, and replace them more often that needed and
then keep them for demolition and such.

"Robatoy" wrote

I use trim routers to pick my nose and dislodge that stubborn
pepperoni from my teeth.

With the right bit, they'll even get that "old man" hair out of ear holes
.... but go ahead and have your coffee first, it helps to be fully awake.


--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 5/14/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Jun 13, 1:28*pm, "Swingman" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote

I use trim routers to pick my nose and dislodge that stubborn
pepperoni from my teeth.

With the right bit, they'll even get that "old man" hair out of ear holes
... but go ahead and have your coffee first, it helps to be fully awake.

I would sometimes watch the odd episode of Friends with one of my
daughters. In one of them, Joey had just said something dumb and
Chandler said: " You're supposed to stop pushing on the Q-Tip when you
feel resistance!"

Your post reminded me of that. G

"Robatoy" wrote

I would sometimes watch the odd episode of Friends with one of my
daughters. In one of them, Joey had just said something dumb and
Chandler said: " You're supposed to stop pushing on the Q-Tip when you
feel resistance!"

Your post reminded me of that. G

LOL. I remember that one ... I too watched "Friends" with my youngest on a
frequent basis before she went off to college, and in the summer when she
was home. I believe she still has all available years on DVD.

We established a similar pattern when she was much younger. I'd pick her up
at school and get us home in time to catch the early "Seventh Heaven"
episodes together. Now, IMO, that was a rare TV show with strong family
values and good moral content. AAMOF, it gave me the opportunity to
answer/discuss many of her questions on life in general while watching that
show together. I've noticed in the past few years that a number of her
judgments, based on those very same values, have been reflected back in the
way she's handled situations as a young adult.

As much as I deride the general content of TV today, shows like "Seventh
Heaven" were a rare learning experience for a youngster, and an opportunity
for a parent to discuss/reinforce moral behavior.

I hope it's still on, and still serving that purpose.

Watch that nose hair trimming bit ... a climb cut will make you sneeze, for
sure!

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 5/14/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Jun 13, 3:01*pm, "Swingman" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote

I would sometimes watch the odd episode of Friends with one of my
daughters. In one of them, Joey had just said something dumb and
Chandler said: " You're supposed to stop pushing on the Q-Tip when you
feel resistance!"
Your post reminded me of that. G

LOL. I remember that one ... I too watched "Friends" with my youngest on a
frequent basis before she went off to college, and in the summer when she
was home. I believe she still has all available years on DVD.

We established a similar pattern when she was much younger. I'd pick her up
at school and get us home in time to catch the early "Seventh Heaven"
episodes together. Now, IMO, that was a rare TV show with strong family
values and good moral content. AAMOF, it gave me the opportunity to
answer/discuss many of her questions on life in general while watching that
show together. I've noticed in the past few years that a number of her
judgments, based on those very same values, have been reflected back in the
way she's handled situations as a young adult.

As much as I deride the general content of TV today, shows like "Seventh
Heaven" were a rare learning experience for a youngster, and an opportunity
for a parent to discuss/reinforce moral behavior.

I hope it's still on, and still serving that purpose.

Watch that nose hair trimming bit ... a climb cut will make you sneeze, for
sure!

--www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 5/14/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

I wonder if Festool makes a nose-trimmer. Ask Leon... eg

btw, just waiting to hear from Morris, he's near Des Moines. I hope
he's okay.

On Jun 13, 3:12*pm, Robatoy wrote:
On Jun 13, 3:01*pm, "Swingman" wrote:



"Robatoy" wrote

I would sometimes watch the odd episode of Friends with one of my
daughters. In one of them, Joey had just said something dumb and
Chandler said: " You're supposed to stop pushing on the Q-Tip when you
feel resistance!"
Your post reminded me of that. G

LOL. I remember that one ... I too watched "Friends" with my youngest on a
frequent basis before she went off to college, and in the summer when she
was home. I believe she still has all available years on DVD.

We established a similar pattern when she was much younger. I'd pick her up
at school and get us home in time to catch the early "Seventh Heaven"
episodes together. Now, IMO, that was a rare TV show with strong family
values and good moral content. AAMOF, it gave me the opportunity to
answer/discuss many of her questions on life in general while watching that
show together. I've noticed in the past few years that a number of her
judgments, based on those very same values, have been reflected back in the
way she's handled situations as a young adult.

As much as I deride the general content of TV today, shows like "Seventh
Heaven" were a rare learning experience for a youngster, and an opportunity
for a parent to discuss/reinforce moral behavior.

I hope it's still on, and still serving that purpose.

Watch that nose hair trimming bit ... a climb cut will make you sneeze, for
sure!

--www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 5/14/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

I wonder if Festool makes a nose-trimmer. Ask Leon... eg

btw, just waiting to hear from Morris, he's near Des Moines. I hope
he's okay.

He is, in fact, only a couple of miles from a river... not sure which
one. DeSoto...

"Robatoy" wrote:

btw, just waiting to hear from Morris, he's near Des Moines. I hope
he's okay.

He hasn't been here in a while.

Did the spam get him?

Lew

On Jun 13, 2:20 pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote:
btw, just waiting to hear from Morris, he's near Des Moines. I hope

he's okay.

He hasn't been here in a while.

Did the spam get him?

Lew

I don't think so. He left here before all of it started. I seem to
remember him being tired of all the petty infighting and ****ing
contests that were going on here.

He is quite active on other groups, as of yesterday.

Robert

wrote:
I seem to
remember him being tired of all the petty infighting and ****ing
contests that were going on here.


You mean the:

"My daddy can beat up your dady................. nah-na-nah-nah"

got to him?

Lew

On Jun 13, 3:38*pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
wrote:
I seem to
remember him being tired of all the petty infighting and ****ing
contests that were going on here.

You mean the:

"My daddy can beat up your dady................. nah-na-nah-nah"

got to him?

Lew

Yup, he got tired of "all heat, no light" arguments.
Just heard from him. He's okay, some of his stuff in a storage unit in
Des Moines is likely going to get wet.

r

Robatoy wrote:
On Jun 13, 3:38 pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
wrote:
I seem to
remember him being tired of all the petty infighting and ****ing
contests that were going on here.
You mean the:

"My daddy can beat up your dady................. nah-na-nah-nah"

got to him?

Lew

Yup, he got tired of "all heat, no light" arguments.
Just heard from him. He's okay, some of his stuff in a storage unit in
Des Moines is likely going to get wet.

r
cites please?

:-)

On Jun 13, 2:38 pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:

You mean the:

"My daddy can beat up your dady................. nah-na-nah-nah"

got to him?

And my tools are better than yours, etc. You know, a normal day at
the wreck.

A loss. He was a good guy.

Robert

On Jun 13, 9:45*pm, "
wrote:
On Jun 13, 2:38 pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:

You mean the:

"My daddy can beat up your dady................. nah-na-nah-nah"

got to him?

And my tools are better than yours, etc. *You know, a normal day at
the wreck.

A loss. *He was a good guy.

Robert

Absolutely.

On Jun 13, 6:44*pm, jo4hn wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
On Jun 13, 3:38 pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
wrote:
I seem to
remember him being tired of all the petty infighting and ****ing
contests that were going on here.
You mean the:

"My daddy can beat up your dady................. nah-na-nah-nah"

got to him?

Lew

Yup, he got tired of *"all heat, no light" arguments.
Just heard from him. He's okay, some of his stuff in a storage unit in
Des Moines is likely going to get wet.

r

cites please?

* * * * :-)

oooohhh... and here some people thought that *I* was a ****-
disturber...LOL

Robatoy wrote:
On Jun 13, 6:44 pm, jo4hn wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
On Jun 13, 3:38 pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
wrote:
I seem to
remember him being tired of all the petty infighting and ****ing
contests that were going on here.
You mean the:
"My daddy can beat up your dady................. nah-na-nah-nah"
got to him?
Lew
Yup, he got tired of "all heat, no light" arguments.
Just heard from him. He's okay, some of his stuff in a storage unit in
Des Moines is likely going to get wet.
r
cites please?

:-)

oooohhh... and here some people thought that *I* was a ****-
disturber...LOL

The thing is, Rob. You are. I doubt than any regular here would question
that.

Now you have competition. And that has to add to our daily enjoyment.

Tanus