.... are suddenly noticeable in their ubiquity:

Quarterbacks lifting one leg right before the snap, and the use of the word
"passed" for "died".

Monkeys see, monkeys do?

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... hey, it's also a slow, rainy morning!

woodworking Date: Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 7:38am
(Swingman) doth sayeth:
snip ... hey, it's also a slow, rainy morning!

Right now, I'm watching the Magic Schoolbus on TV. But when it's
over I'll go to town and check the mail, then get a bit of light chain
for a project mod - NO, it is NOT anything like that - it's for hanging
my shop heater.

One thing I do is bring in small pieces of wood, and experiment
with different types of stain and finish. Or just play with them. LOL
Right now I'm carrying an octagon I made with my "octagon maker bandsaw
saw sled". Kinda amazing what new woodworking ideas one can get by
flipping one of those over and looking at it.

Magic School bus over now, time to head for town.



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"J T" wrote in message
...
woodworking Date: Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 7:38am
(Swingman) doth sayeth:
snip ... hey, it's also a slow, rainy morning!

Right now, I'm watching the Magic Schoolbus on TV. But when it's
over I'll go to town and check the mail, then get a bit of light chain
for a project mod - NO, it is NOT anything like that - it's for hanging
my shop heater.

One thing I do is bring in small pieces of wood, and experiment
with different types of stain and finish. Or just play with them. LOL
Right now I'm carrying an octagon I made with my "octagon maker bandsaw
saw sled". Kinda amazing what new woodworking ideas one can get by
flipping one of those over and looking at it.

Magic School bus over now, time to head for town.

Do you sing along with that show? ;~)

J T wrote:

woodworking Date: Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 7:38am
(Swingman) doth sayeth:
snip ... hey, it's also a slow, rainy morning!

Right now, I'm watching the Magic Schoolbus on TV. But when it's
over I'll go to town and check the mail, then get a bit of light chain
for a project mod - NO, it is NOT anything like that - it's for hanging
my shop heater.

One thing I do is bring in small pieces of wood, and experiment
with different types of stain and finish. Or just play with them. LOL
Right now I'm carrying an octagon I made with my "octagon maker bandsaw
saw sled". Kinda amazing what new woodworking ideas one can get by
flipping one of those over and looking at it.

Why does this bring to mind a scene with some folks sitting on the floor
in a circle and one of them staring, fascinated, at his hand. "Wow, man,
have you ever looked, I mean really *looked* at your hand?" :-)

Sorry. We now return you to your regular rec.ww content



Magic School bus over now, time to head for town.



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"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
...
J T wrote:

Why does this bring to mind a scene with some folks sitting on the floor
in a circle and one of them staring, fascinated, at his hand. "Wow, man,
have you ever looked, I mean really *looked* at your hand?" :-)

Must be a 60's thing.

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Dave in Houston

"Swingman" wrote in message
...
... are suddenly noticeable in their ubiquity:

Quarterbacks lifting one leg right before the snap,

Yeah, he is trying to claim/be a part of some of that "Glory Dance"
displayed when a touch down is scored.


and the use of the word
"passed" for "died".

Confusing ain't it. Makes as much sense as "My Bad".

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... hey, it's also a slow, rainy morning!



And to stay on topic, ;~) Why is it often a slow rainy morning on the day
you need to so a lot of sanding?

"Leon" wrote in message

"Swingman" wrote in message

... are suddenly noticeable in their ubiquity:

Quarterbacks lifting one leg right before the snap,

Yeah, he is trying to claim/be a part of some of that "Glory Dance"
displayed when a touch down is scored.

I don't watch football/sports as a rule, but that's changed with my numerous
trips to AR these past few months ... too cold to fish, and not much else to
do with all those damn old folks/retiree's populating the area.

Seems like ALL quarterbacks are doing that little leg jerk before the snap
when in a shotgun formation. I noticed it in the HS games being broadcast,
in the college games, and in the pro games?

What the hell is that supposed to do/accomplish, and who started it?

and the use of the word
"passed" for "died".

Confusing ain't it. Makes as much sense as "My Bad".

"John Doe passed on Saturday, leaving ..."

"Passed" who/what ... gas, a truck, what?

I guess if you've never had to skin an animal to eat, you need to soften the
reality of life/death with figurative, saran wrap, terminology, eh?

A generation of pussies is upon us ...

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"Swingman" wrote in message
news

What the hell is that supposed to do/accomplish, and who started it?

M a y b e , he is really jumping..

Perhaps when the Center bends over to snap the ball, he farts and this
scares the QB and he jumps a little. ;~)

And this really makes sense when you consider what you have to say below.
LOL




and the use of the word
"passed" for "died".

Confusing ain't it. Makes as much sense as "My Bad".

"John Doe passed on Saturday, leaving ..."

"Passed" who/what ... gas, a truck, what?

I guess if you've never had to skin an animal to eat, you need to soften
the
reality of life/death with figurative, saran wrap, terminology, eh?

A generation of pussies is upon us ...

Yup.




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On Jan 16, 9:07*am, "Swingman" wrote:

Seems like ALL quarterbacks are doing that little leg jerk before the snap
when in a shotgun formation. I noticed it in the HS games being broadcast,
in the college games, and in the pro games?

Ahem... not a sports buff myself, but I do enjoy a good baseball game
immensely.

But... the leg pump in the shotgun formation was created due of the
fact that the guys on the field literally cannot hear the snap count.
In the shotgun where they are a few feet away, I think most
quarterbacks have complained that when playing on another's home turf
they cannot hear anything. So think about the center, literally
pointed the other way trying to pick up the count...

So it becomes a timing issue, with the QB yelling as loudly as he can
to draw off sides the other team if possible. The snap from the
center then becomes based on visual cues; a leg pump, then a two count
then "hike", or a leg pump and a one count, or an immediate transfer
in some cases. This awkward looking moment was actually born out of
necessity.

Living in San Antonio, we have the Spurs, and our +/- 25,000 capacity
arena in which they play. The ATT Center is ften voted as the loudest
NBA venue by NBA teams and fans. During playoffs (or any Dallas game)
it is so loud in the arena that you literally cannot hear the person
sitting beside you when the crowds get going. Literally. And your
ears ring for hours when you leave.

Imagine a bigger venue, but more radical fans, and at least three
times as many of them in a dome or small stadium...

I guess it's pretty obvious that it's raining here, too...

Robert
(wishing I was in the middle of a large garage repair now instead of
at home drinking coffee putting off f'ing paperwork)

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:36:07 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

But... the leg pump in the shotgun formation was created due of the
fact that the guys on the field literally cannot hear the snap count.
In the shotgun where they are a few feet away, I think most
quarterbacks have complained that when playing on another's home turf
they cannot hear anything. So think about the center, literally
pointed the other way trying to pick up the count...

It's also used (when not in the shotgun) to put the tight end in
motion.

Mike O.

A lineman, including the ends, cannot go in motion. They can shift,
but once set, they can't move.

-TES

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:15:25 -0600, Mike O. wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:36:07 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

But... the leg pump in the shotgun formation was created due of the
fact that the guys on the field literally cannot hear the snap count.
In the shotgun where they are a few feet away, I think most
quarterbacks have complained that when playing on another's home turf
they cannot hear anything. So think about the center, literally
pointed the other way trying to pick up the count...

It's also used (when not in the shotgun) to put the tight end in
motion.

Mike O.

On Jan 16, 10:07 am, "Swingman" wrote:

"John Doe passed on Saturday, leaving ..."

"Passed" who/what ... gas, a truck, what?

I guess if you've never had to skin an animal to eat, you need to soften the
reality of life/death with figurative, saran wrap, terminology, eh?

A generation of pussies is upon us ...

Oddly enough, the people who use that the most around here appear to
be descendants of dead farmers. At least we KNOW the farmer did some
slicing and dicing on his own. I think the prosletyzers mostly want us
to believe that the person who died immediately passed on to a better
world.

We're softening reality for everyone. AOL has a headline about someone
having all the want or need still being unhappy. I usually have all I
need, but have never in my life come within half a million bucks of
having all I want, but unfortunately for today's generation of people
with super high self esteem, I'm usually happy, unless I'm ****ed off.

I love the VA question about depression: have you been depressed for a
long time lately? Actually, not ever (if we don't count Parris
Island's first week--that would depress Richard Simmons [is that
irrepressible gnome still bouncing along?]).

Too many people spend too much time worrying about themselves. Many
vets DO have a problem with depression (with excellent cause), but
damned if I can see why these questions are repeated on EVERY frigging
visit to those of us who don't. My nerves aren't that sensitive and
never have been. If someone thinks I'm acting like an asshole, they
let me know without a shrink's intervention. Hell, these days I
probably will agree and just keep on keeping on.

Swingman said:

... are suddenly noticeable in their ubiquity:

Quarterbacks lifting one leg right before the snap, and the use of the word
"passed" for "died".

Monkeys see, monkeys do?

Age old occurrence.

On another note, since it's a rainy, slow day for you, I have a
problem I'd like your input on.

Idiots built an entire subdivision and stuck ventilators in all the
bathrooms for show - but failed to vent them anywhere. After years of
use, the owners call with complaints of the sheetrock seams/tape
peeling off. Although it is obvious as to why, I'm not sure what the
best solution is. I've already found dead wall space and installed
metal pipes from the lower floors, and am now hooking up flexible pipe
to the upper floor bathrooms. The problem is the external vents. I
don't want to chop 4 holes in the roof, and getting at the eaves for 4
eave vents is problematic/impossible. (Too small w/ 6/12 pitch
W-Rafters on the inside, and 45 feet in the air on the outside.)

I'm considering running all of them together to one large roof vent,
but I'm concerned about blowback back into other bathrooms (yeah, they
do have some cheap-ass flapper), and the distance (condensation
dripping back) on some. As well, no one sells a 4 into 1 collector
for this purpose. Got any good ideas?

Thanks,

Greg G.

On Jan 16, 8:38 am, "Swingman" wrote:
... are suddenly noticeable in their ubiquity:

Quarterbacks lifting one leg right before the snap, and the use of the word
"passed" for "died".

Monkeys see, monkeys do?


The NFL is interesting exactly because it is a monkey see, monkey do
league. When one team has a great idea, it's quickly adapted by each
team that sees it as a fit. In order to differentiate themselves,
teams are forced to be innovative because the competition quickly
catches up. So-n-so's doing a silent snap count with their leg? Great
idea! And it is, really. When a team is on the road, a visual clue to
the center is more reliable than an audible one.

"Jeff" wrote

On Jan 16, 8:38 am, "Swingman"

... are suddenly noticeable in their ubiquity:

Quarterbacks lifting one leg right before the snap, and the use of the
word
"passed" for "died".

Monkeys see, monkeys do?


The NFL is interesting exactly because it is a monkey see, monkey do
league. When one team has a great idea, it's quickly adapted by each
team that sees it as a fit. In order to differentiate themselves,
teams are forced to be innovative because the competition quickly
catches up. So-n-so's doing a silent snap count with their leg? Great
idea! And it is, really. When a team is on the road, a visual clue to
the center is more reliable than an audible one.

Ever had a football helmet on?

Great theory ... as long as linemen/centers have eyes in the back of their
head.

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The leg-lift is a visual signal, which may relate to:

1. "Hey center, I'm ready to receive the snap at your leisure"
2. "Hey flanker, start your motion"
3. "Hike the ball in 3 seconds"
4. "Hey defense, I'm just ****in' with 'ya"
5. "Team: no audible, run the play as called when we did the
huddle-thingy"
6. "Damn, these pants are tight and my balls are pinched"
7. "That Jessica Simpson is HOT ... she can suck the chrome off a
trailer hitch!"
8. "Begin countdown for whatever we're counting down for"
9. &tc.

-TES

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:38:44 -0600, "Swingman" wrote:

... are suddenly noticeable in their ubiquity:

Quarterbacks lifting one leg right before the snap, and the use of the word
"passed" for "died".

Monkeys see, monkeys do?

"Thomas Edward Stosterone" wrote in message
The leg-lift is a visual signal, which may relate to:

1. "Hey center, I'm ready to receive the snap at your leisure"
2. "Hey flanker, start your motion"
3. "Hike the ball in 3 seconds"
4. "Hey defense, I'm just ****in' with 'ya"
5. "Team: no audible, run the play as called when we did the
huddle-thingy"
6. "Damn, these pants are tight and my balls are pinched"
7. "That Jessica Simpson is HOT ... she can suck the chrome off a
trailer hitch!"
8. "Begin countdown for whatever we're counting down for"
9. &tc.

LOL!

10. XXXX does it, and it looks cools, so I'm gonna to do it to.

Somebody had to be first?

(this could be Saddam's mother of all trivia questions)


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