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Bible & Qur'an Say : DO NOT EAT PORK
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Glenna Rose wrote:
writes: You're right Charlie. Or, you would be if that is how things happened. There are roughly a million copies of the Bible distributed -each week- and it is available in roughly 2,300 languages. "Oral histories" came to an end with Moses. This isn't the parlor game of 'pass it on' played by a bunch of giggly kids ... this is "pass it on" played for keeps by serious-minded adults with their eye on the ball It is one thing to declare that the scriptures were adulterated. Knowing humans, it seems almost certain that they were. It is quite another to prove it. Bill Actually, Bill, on a recent broadcast on NPR (actually perhaps as long as a year ago), they talked about just that. Each time the Bible was re-copied, the person copying might put notes in the margin. Often when it was copied the next time, the person making that copy incorporated the notes into the text. Therefore, the Bible that was translated into multiple languages might actually be not exactly the same as (or quite far from) the original text. They gave a specific example of a well-known story from the New Testament where they actually had copies of the text in its original forms (the ones copied by each scribe) that showed the various steps of this well-known story and how the one commonly accepted is not at all the original. The oldest text they found only reported the deed, the "modern" version has punishment included, a quite severe one at that. That being from the New Testament; one can only imagine how the years from Moses forward were altered (not to even address the "blips" in the oral recounts prior to writing). When they have the in-between copies in the ancient form, that pretty much indicates the Bible used today is not as each part was written originally, not even allowing for the translation and culture errors. Heavens, even the Apostles who were there wrote different things about the same events as presented in our "modern" books. I think you should be using something other than NPR as a source of theological reference. There are numerous books that discuss the history of the canon. In actuality, the copying of scripture was taken very seriously, there were numerous checks and cross-checks to assure that documents were copied correctly. In Old Testament times, a single error on a page led to the entire page being destroyed; they had a mechanism set up in which the letters across and down were added up and checked (an analog to our modern checksums). It's been several years since I attended a lecture on this subject, but as far as New Testament, there are several codices that trace back to just after the first century AD. Their origins are geographically separated, but their contents are in agreement. Some of the codice have missing sections in comparison to one another, but this is not indication of something added elsewhere, it is more akin to sections that either were not completed or lost. As far as the comment regarding how the apostles wrote different things about the same event, the best analogy for this is having several eyewitnesses recount an event. Each person sees the event from a slightly different perspective (while believers assert that scripture is inspired, we also recognize that God used people in that activity who wrote about what they saw and heard). So, while one person might focus on the color, make and model of a car involved in the event, a second eyewitness may only indicate a "vehicle" was involved and describe "the man" who was the primary actor in the event, while yet a third person will talk about the "three people" who were involved. None of these eyewitnesses would be wrong or incorrect, they are just describing from a different view of the same scene. ... snip -- If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough |
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Bible & Qur'an Say : DO NOT EAT PORK
"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message ... Glenna Rose wrote: Actually, Bill, on a recent broadcast on NPR (actually perhaps as long as a year ago), they talked about just that. Each time the Bible was re-copied, the person copying might put notes in the margin. Often when it was copied the next time, the person making that copy incorporated the notes into the text. I think you should be using something other than NPR as a source of theological reference. There are numerous books that discuss the history of the canon. In actuality, the copying of scripture was taken very seriously, there were numerous checks and cross-checks to assure that documents were copied correctly. In Old Testament times, a single error on a page led to the entire page being destroyed; they had a mechanism set up in which the letters across and down were added up and checked (an analog to our modern checksums). Y'think NPR has an agenda? Between the woodworking shows today I watched several PBS commercials touting their impartiality, balance and depth. Snickered at every one.... Know that the moderns are as zealous about letter by letter Torah as you say, but still willing to bet there is the odd commentary co-opted from somewhere along the way. In the case of the New Testament, it was created from the writings deemed suitable answers to issues of the time, with as many legitimate and contemporary writings deliberately left out. |
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Mark & Juanita writes:
In Old Testament times, a single error on a page led to the entire page being destroyed; That's because they didn't have White-Out |
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"Maxwell Lol" wrote in message ... Mark & Juanita writes: In Old Testament times, a single error on a page led to the entire page being destroyed; That's because they didn't have White-Out Wonder how many times they got near the end of a page and thought "son of a camel! I'm keeping quiet about this one" Maybe his name really was Bejesus. |
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