My inital project is going to be a cedar strip canoe. I have 1/2 of a
small 2 car garage for a shop space. I have a BT3100 table saw and a
Rockler router table that are not yet assembled. I am interested in
putting these on mobile bases. The center of the shop will be taken up
with the strongback.

Is there a source for for bases that work like typewriter tables?
They have wheels and a mechanism that lift the table up to roll and
lowers the table to allow the feet to support the table.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

RT

"Funjumper101" wrote in message
om...
My inital project is going to be a cedar strip canoe. I have 1/2 of a
small 2 car garage for a shop space. I have a BT3100 table saw and a
Rockler router table that are not yet assembled. I am interested in
putting these on mobile bases. The center of the shop will be taken up
with the strongback.

Is there a source for for bases that work like typewriter tables?
They have wheels and a mechanism that lift the table up to roll and
lowers the table to allow the feet to support the table.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

RT

Sure, look at your favorite tool outlet for mobile bases.

http:/google.com

search for mobile base table saw.

-Jack

On 28-Aug-2003, (Funjumper101) wrote:

Is there a source for for bases that work like typewriter tables?
They have wheels and a mechanism that lift the table up to roll and
lowers the table to allow the feet to support the table.

I have one on my 14" bandsaw. It's a Portamate. It is adjustable in base
size, so you can fit it to many different bases. Only two wheels lift
and lower, so when down, the base is on two wheels and two feet.
It is more solid than I'd have expected - the wheels are solid and
the base doesn't wiggle much.

The bases are available in several weight capacity/size combinations
and priced accordingly. The PM1000 is small (up to 300 lb) and
up to 31" square or 19"x43" rectangle. I've seen tham at my local
Home Depot.

Mike

Funjumper101 wrote:


Is there a source for for bases that work like typewriter tables?
They have wheels and a mechanism that lift the table up to roll and
lowers the table to allow the feet to support the table.


If you're near a Harbor Fright store, look at this mobile base:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=41915
It seems to go on sale pretty often for about half price. I've got my BT3100
on one.


--
Steve

Why do you people always solve everything by buying more crap? Get with
it and show some All-American ingenuity, man!! Buy or scavenge a set of
rollers or caster wheels and build a damn stand!! Hint: circle your tool
base with wood and then place boards under and across that with the
casters below. Some thinking and basic measuring will show you the way,
and if that ain't Barbie 'n' Ken enough for you, then paint it gray.

jets new moble base is excellent
just what your looking for
"Funjumper101" wrote in message
om...
My inital project is going to be a cedar strip canoe. I have 1/2 of a
small 2 car garage for a shop space. I have a BT3100 table saw and a
Rockler router table that are not yet assembled. I am interested in
putting these on mobile bases. The center of the shop will be taken up
with the strongback.

Is there a source for for bases that work like typewriter tables?
They have wheels and a mechanism that lift the table up to roll and
lowers the table to allow the feet to support the table.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

RT

"RM MS" wrote in message
...
Why do you people always solve everything by buying more crap? Get with
it and show some All-American ingenuity, man!! Buy or scavenge a set of
rollers or caster wheels and build a damn stand!! Hint: circle your tool
base with wood and then place boards under and across that with the
casters below. Some thinking and basic measuring will show you the way,
and if that ain't Barbie 'n' Ken enough for you, then paint it gray.

PirateBob,

When you price a set of casters and figure in the time to build the stand it
works out better if you just buy one.
I was going to build one for my table saw, but it cost more to buy the
casters, nuts, bolts, angle iron than to buy a premade one.

-Jack

If it's a Delta mobile base, it isn't "crap". Same goes for a few of
the other bases on the market.
dave

RM MS wrote:

Why do you people always solve everything by buying more crap? Get with
it and show some All-American ingenuity, man!! Buy or scavenge a set of
rollers or caster wheels and build a damn stand!! Hint: circle your tool
base with wood and then place boards under and across that with the
casters below. Some thinking and basic measuring will show you the way,
and if that ain't Barbie 'n' Ken enough for you, then paint it gray.

I solved all those problems, and mine don't raise the equip. more than
1/2" offthe floor either. Dang, man, I got to tell you how to do
everything? Think, think, THINK!!

Mine is a ring or 2=D76 around the bottom of the saw legs. 2 more 2=D76
laid flat and screwed across and beneath that ring makes the wheel
mount. Casters were snatched from a junk pile at work.If you need
lockers, then look a little longer and grab them. If not, tap a little
wedge between the wheel and sheave. Nuts and carriage bolts were laying
in jars and bins in my garage for years already, glad to use them p.
Total time: 2hrs.

"I am sure that if I had the time I could design something, track down
the parts, make it, debug it, and end up with a reasonably satisfactory
solution."


Then why don't you just buy the damn birdhouse and forget the whole
thing?

I wrote in my original message that I was planning to build a strip
built canoe. I might build some birdhouses and bat houses for the
property at some point. At the moment it isn't in my near term plans.

In spite of your extreme crankiness it sounds like you might have some
useful ideas.

What model saw do you have? What other tools do you have? As you have
your saw on a mobile base it sounds like you have space limitaions in
your shop as well. Do you have any practical ideas I can use in my
limited space?

Thanks in advance,

Roy T.


(RM MS) wrote in message ...
"I am sure that if I had the time I could design something, track down
the parts, make it, debug it, and end up with a reasonably satisfactory
solution."


Then why don't you just buy the damn birdhouse and forget the whole
thing?

In article ,
says...
As you have
your saw on a mobile base it sounds like you have space limitaions in
your shop as well. Do you have any practical ideas I can use in my
limited space?


My table saw is on one of Delta's "build-your-own" bases: they provide
the steel corners and wheels/raiser, you provide the hardwood
connectors. They sell for around $40. . .Here's a shot of my saw:

http://home.mminternet.com/~donryu/i...tablesaw01.jpg

Kim

(ToolMiser) wrote in
:

How is this home-made base going to stay in place, and not move when
pushing a heavy piece of wood through the machine? I personally like
the "harbor freight" type bases because they lock down, but also, the
don't raise the machinery very far off the floor.


If you have access to a welder it is pretty easy to build your own. I
welded a frame using angle iron(such that the flat part faces in). The
equipment legs then set on the angle iron. If additional room is needed
for the legs, add a bit of flat steel. This arrangement lets the tool
sit flat on the floor. The "tricky" bit is to cut a piece of ~2' long
angle and weld a ~2" wheel to it near the back. Drill a hole through the
back and through the back of the base and use a shoulder bolt as a pivot
bolt to connect the wheel to the base. (one on each side of course).
When in use, the wheels hold their piece of angle iron up at about a 45
degree angle. When ready to move, just pull the angle down. I put a
bolt in the front of each leg/cabinet for the angle iron to slip under
and hold the rear wheels in place.

To lift the front up, I put an eye bolt in the center of the front base.
I then welded a 4" wheel to some square tube and a hook to the tupe in
front of the wheel. I can now just slip the hook into the eye bolt, pull
down on the handle and move it around like a tricycle.

It is a pretty simple design but the tools stay flat on the floor without
moving around under pressure. I also don't have a big wheel sticking out
in front of all the equipment. It is more trouble than it is worth for
only one machine, but with my small shop I need to move them all when
working with 8' lumber.

Secret wrote in message
. 4.10...
(RM MS) wrote in news:29796-3F4F97E4-63@storefull-
2293.public.lawson.webtv.net:

Mine is a ring or 2×6 around the bottom of the saw legs. 2 more 2×6
laid flat and screwed across and beneath that ring makes the wheel
mount. Casters were snatched from a junk pile at work.If you need
lockers, then look a little longer and grab them. If not, tap a
little
wedge between the wheel and sheave. Nuts and carriage bolts were
laying
in jars and bins in my garage for years already, glad to use them p.
Total time: 2hrs.



And the value of that time is what? 0?

Well, unless you have someone that pays you for your spare time, then
you are correct - the answer is zero.


I'm all for do it yourself and being inventive, but sometimes it's
just
frivolous. I could put in 2 hours of overtime, and make FAR more than
what the cost of the factory built base is, purchase the purpose-built
welded steel item and still have money left over. More-over with spare
time being at a premium, I'd rather work on the projects that interest
me
than spend time dicking around trying to cobble up solutions to
problems
that have already been solved. I suspect that I'm far from alone in
that


Kind of boils down to you spend your spare time the way you want and
he'll spend it the way he wants.

Secret wrote in message
. 4.10...
(RM MS) wrote in news:29796-3F4F97E4-63@storefull-
2293.public.lawson.webtv.net:
And the value of that time is what? 0?
I'm all for do it yourself and being inventive, but sometimes it's just
frivolous. I could put in 2 hours of overtime, and make FAR more than
what the cost of the factory built base is, purchase the purpose-built
welded steel item and still have money left over. More-over with spare
time being at a premium, I'd rather work on the projects that interest me
than spend time dicking around trying to cobble up solutions to problems
that have already been solved. I suspect that I'm far from alone in that

With an outlook like that, why would you do any woodworking at all?
Everything you've ever made has likely been made by someone else and is just
as likely forsale somewhere cheaper than what you could make at your job.
The joy is in the making, the fixing and the sense of accomplishment, not a
cost/time ratio based against your job. With your outlook, it must be really
difficult to construct anything.

Secret wrote in message
. 4.10...

And the value of that time is what? 0?
I'm all for do it yourself and being inventive, but sometimes it's just
frivolous. I could put in 2 hours of overtime, and make FAR more than
what the cost of the factory built base is, purchase the purpose-built
welded steel item and still have money left over.

If that fits your life style, good for you. Perhaps the OP is retired and
cannot work OT to buy his toys;. but he has plenty of time.

We all get satisfaction from woodworking or we would not be here. Some of my
most satisfying days in the shop are when I produce just about nothing
physical, but did have a good idea for "next time". Or spent 30 minutes
making a jig to save 5 minutes time, but it works soooo goood!.

Today, I brought some wood home from work. It is soft wood, dunnage from an
import shipment. I spent time to resaw it, I'm going to plane it, and
finally cut it for something useful. I can get the same board feet of wood
very cheap and possibly better quality at t he BORG. Why bother?

It is very satisfying to show people a piece of the rough lumber from a
shipping pallet made into an outdoor table. I get more oooh's and aaah's
than if it was made from ebony. Keep in mind, you are not given points
based on the number of projects or the amount of wood you used.

It is not the destination, it is the journey.
Ed

I agree with the squirrel on this one...Not everyone enjoys making all
of their shop equipment; they've got their eye on the furniture making,
or whatever wood projects suit their fancy. Some guys will scrounge
around for weeks or months for a used motor, pulleys, switches, wire,
brackets, pulleys, nuts/bolts, belts, framistans, doohickeys,
thingamjigs, whatchacallits, etc instead of shelling out $89 for a belt
sander. To each his own. Try not to be so critical of those who focus
their energies in this endeavor we all refer to as "Woodworking".
Narrow-mindedness never solved anything.

dave

Upscale wrote:

Secret wrote in message
. 4.10...

(RM MS) wrote in news:29796-3F4F97E4-63@storefull-
2293.public.lawson.webtv.net:
And the value of that time is what? 0?
I'm all for do it yourself and being inventive, but sometimes it's just
frivolous. I could put in 2 hours of overtime, and make FAR more than
what the cost of the factory built base is, purchase the purpose-built
welded steel item and still have money left over. More-over with spare
time being at a premium, I'd rather work on the projects that interest me
than spend time dicking around trying to cobble up solutions to problems
that have already been solved. I suspect that I'm far from alone in that


With an outlook like that, why would you do any woodworking at all?
Everything you've ever made has likely been made by someone else and is just
as likely forsale somewhere cheaper than what you could make at your job.
The joy is in the making, the fixing and the sense of accomplishment, not a
cost/time ratio based against your job. With your outlook, it must be really
difficult to construct anything.

Group: rec.woodworking Date: Tue, Sep 2, 2003, 3:46pm (EDT+4) From:
(Upscale)
Secret wrote in message
. 4.10...
(RM MS) wrote in news:29796-3F4F97E4-63@storefull-
2293.public.lawson.webtv.net:
And the value of that time is what? 0?
I'm all for do it yourself and being inventive, but sometimes it's just
frivolous. I could put in 2 hours of overtime, and make FAR more than
what the cost of the factory built base is, purchase the purpose-built
welded steel item and still have money left over. More-over with spare
time being at a premium, I'd rather work on the projects that interest
me than spend time dicking around trying to cobble up solutions to
problems that have already been solved. I suspect that I'm far from
alone in that
With an outlook like that, why would you do any woodworking at all?
Everything you've ever made has likely been made by someone else and is
just as likely forsale somewhere cheaper than what you could make at
your job. The joy is in the making, the fixing and the sense of
accomplishment, not a cost/time ratio based against your job. With your
outlook, it must be really difficult to construct anything.
************************************************** ****
Upscale ~ I got into this thread a little late but I had to remark that
you wrote the above reply very well indeed. It so happens that I make my
own bases from scrap pieces of 2x4 or 2x3 and use mortise and tenon
joints just for the fun of it. Then I attach two fixed casters and two
swivel ones. The finishing touch is a spring loaded foot-operated door
stop to keep it from rolling while I'm using the machine. It costs me
less than a cheap store bought one and I can look at it and say, "I made
that!". Isn't this what woodworking is all about?

Peace ~ SirEdgar
=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F 8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=
=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8

And the value of that time is what? 0?

Well, unless you have someone that pays you for your spare time, then
you are correct - the answer is zero.

I've never had a problem finding ways to turn a profit from my spare
time activities. They are often far more profitable than going to work. But
that is irrelevant, perhaps your time has no value to you. MY time has
considerable value to me, as there is precious little of it available.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in
m:



Secret wrote in message
. 4.10...

And the value of that time is what? 0?
I'm all for do it yourself and being inventive, but sometimes it's
just frivolous. I could put in 2 hours of overtime, and make FAR more
than what the cost of the factory built base is, purchase the
purpose-built welded steel item and still have money left over.

If that fits your life style, good for you. Perhaps the OP is retired
and cannot work OT to buy his toys;. but he has plenty of time.


That was the exact point I was making though, and which some people seem
to have missed. Time has a value. For some that value is low. They have
plenty available, and perhaps not alot of funds available. Or perhaps
they simply enjoy the tinkering.
Others have to place a premium on time as there is just not enough
available and the time taken from activities they enjoy, or the projects
that are important to them justifies the expense spent on purchasing
whatever the item in question was.
Sadly, the myopic majority that seems to spend all of their time
flaming posts in newsgroups took that as some sort of an affront to their
sensibilties instead of what is was : One man's opinion on the original
posters question.

Squirrel says:
" . . .but it doesn't have any bearing on the original post."

Hey, man, if the flip-flop fits, slip it on. If not, then leave it on
the beach!!

I must say this is a strange thread. I may have come in a bit late on
the subject, but in my view....money is time and time is money. It's
just what value each individual puts on each that determine their avenue
of approach to things. One thing for sure, attacking each other in this
manner is just a waste of time, energy and if one sees fit to
include...money. Wouldn't you rather be planning or building your next
woodworking project (whatever it may be) than bickering over the
perception of what's more important...money or time.

DM

Bay Area Dave wrote in
:

I agree with the squirrel on this one...Not everyone enjoys making all
of their shop equipment; they've got their eye on the furniture
making, or whatever wood projects suit their fancy. Some guys will
scrounge around for weeks or months for a used motor, pulleys,
switches, wire, brackets, pulleys, nuts/bolts, belts, framistans,
doohickeys, thingamjigs, whatchacallits, etc instead of shelling out
$89 for a belt sander. To each his own. Try not to be so critical of
those who focus their energies in this endeavor we all refer to as
"Woodworking". Narrow-mindedness never solved anything.

dave

Upscale wrote:

Secret wrote in message
. 4.10...

(RM MS) wrote in
news:29796-3F4F97E4-63@storefull- 2293.public.lawson.webtv.net:
And the value of that time is what? 0?
I'm all for do it yourself and being inventive, but sometimes it's
just frivolous. I could put in 2 hours of overtime, and make FAR more
than what the cost of the factory built base is, purchase the
purpose-built welded steel item and still have money left over.
More-over with spare time being at a premium, I'd rather work on the
projects that interest me than spend time dicking around trying to
cobble up solutions to problems that have already been solved. I
suspect that I'm far from alone in that


With an outlook like that, why would you do any woodworking at all?
Everything you've ever made has likely been made by someone else and
is just as likely forsale somewhere cheaper than what you could make
at your job. The joy is in the making, the fixing and the sense of
accomplishment, not a cost/time ratio based against your job. With
your outlook, it must be really difficult to construct anything.