http://www.sawstop.com/

Is this for real?
has anyone actually used one?
how accurate are they or has all the money been put in to the safety
features?

wayne

In article h_dWh.102630$6m4.6331@pd7urf1no, "Wayne J." wrote:
http://www.sawstop.com/

Is this for real?
has anyone actually used one?
how accurate are they or has all the money been put in to the safety
features?

Here we go again...

SawStop has been discussed _to_death_ on this newsgroup. Please do a Google
Groups search to find the previous discussions (and there have been MANY). If,
after reading all that, you still have any questions, then come back with
them.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
news
In article h_dWh.102630$6m4.6331@pd7urf1no, "Wayne J."
wrote:
http://www.sawstop.com/

Is this for real?
has anyone actually used one?
how accurate are they or has all the money been put in to the safety
features?

Here we go again...

SawStop has been discussed _to_death_ on this newsgroup. Please do a
Google
Groups search to find the previous discussions (and there have been MANY).
If,
after reading all that, you still have any questions, then come back with
them.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

sorry for asking. I have read a lot on it and now I thought I would ask a
few questions

"Wayne J." wrote in message
sorry for asking. I have read a lot on it and now I thought I would ask a
few questions

You asked one dumb question and posted a link. Periodically, the same
simple question gets posted on other (non woodworking) newsgroups too.
Seems to be an underground advertising medium.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
. net...

"Wayne J." wrote in message
sorry for asking. I have read a lot on it and now I thought I would ask a
few questions

You asked one dumb question and posted a link. Periodically, the same
simple question gets posted on other (non woodworking) newsgroups too.
Seems to be an underground advertising medium.

Dumb to you, a civil question to me.

again, sorry I bothered you.

"Wayne J." wrote in message
news:1IeWh.103413$6m4.102563@pd7urf1no...

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
news
In article h_dWh.102630$6m4.6331@pd7urf1no, "Wayne J."
wrote:
http://www.sawstop.com/


Is this for real?


Absolutely


has anyone actually used one?

Yes. Several posters to this group own the TS and LeeValley uses them in
their stores.


how accurate are they or has all the money been put in to the safety
features?

From reports by users and magaaine articles the saw is top notch.

"Leon" wrote in message
t...

"Wayne J." wrote in message
news:1IeWh.103413$6m4.102563@pd7urf1no...

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
news
In article h_dWh.102630$6m4.6331@pd7urf1no, "Wayne J."
wrote:
http://www.sawstop.com/


Is this for real?


Absolutely


has anyone actually used one?

Yes. Several posters to this group own the TS and LeeValley uses them in
their stores.


how accurate are they or has all the money been put in to the safety
features?

From reports by users and magaaine articles the saw is top notch.


thanks. I appreciate the answer

wayne

Leon wrote:

has anyone actually used one?

Yes.**Several*posters*to*this*group*own*the*TS*and **LeeValley*uses*them*in
their stores.

As does Woodcraft. And the safety feature was tested (inadvertently) by a
student in one of our classes - worked great, only a bandaid was needed..

They're getting very popular with commercial sites and schools. A local large
cabinet shop has 15-20 of them and claims to have already saved several
fingers.

--
It's turtles, all the way down

"Wayne J." wrote in message
news:1IeWh.103413$6m4.102563@pd7urf1no...

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
news
In article h_dWh.102630$6m4.6331@pd7urf1no, "Wayne J."
wrote:
http://www.sawstop.com/

Is this for real?
has anyone actually used one?
how accurate are they or has all the money been put in to the safety
features?

Here we go again...

SawStop has been discussed _to_death_ on this newsgroup. Please do a
Google
Groups search to find the previous discussions (and there have been
MANY). If,
after reading all that, you still have any questions, then come back with
them.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

sorry for asking. I have read a lot on it and now I thought I would ask a
few questions

Wayne, no need to apologize.
The question has come up many times, so most people will just ignore you
since you could have found out the information by googling if you really
wanted to know.
Others like to be helpful and will respond because they enjoy it.
And then there is Doug... He has nothing better to do than respond, but
instead of being helpful, he is nasty. I don't even like to think about
what he is compensating for.

"Toller" wrote in message
...

"Wayne J." wrote in message
news:1IeWh.103413$6m4.102563@pd7urf1no...

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
news
In article h_dWh.102630$6m4.6331@pd7urf1no, "Wayne J."
wrote:
http://www.sawstop.com/

Is this for real?
has anyone actually used one?
how accurate are they or has all the money been put in to the safety
features?

Here we go again...

SawStop has been discussed _to_death_ on this newsgroup. Please do a
Google
Groups search to find the previous discussions (and there have been
MANY). If,
after reading all that, you still have any questions, then come back
with
them.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

sorry for asking. I have read a lot on it and now I thought I would ask a
few questions

Wayne, no need to apologize.
The question has come up many times, so most people will just ignore you
since you could have found out the information by googling if you really
wanted to know.
Others like to be helpful and will respond because they enjoy it.
And then there is Doug... He has nothing better to do than respond, but
instead of being helpful, he is nasty. I don't even like to think about
what he is compensating for.


I have been away for a couple of years due to illness. I am now getting back
in to woodworking.

Believe it or not, this is the first I have heard of this saw. I have been
researching it as my old Rockwell cabinet saw has about had it. My
preference would be a Unisaw, but this is really getting my interest.

thks for the help
wayne

"Wayne J." wrote in message
news:AOfWh.105124$aG1.85718@pd7urf3no...

I have been away for a couple of years due to illness. I am now getting
back in to woodworking.

Believe it or not, this is the first I have heard of this saw. I have been
researching it as my old Rockwell cabinet saw has about had it. My
preference would be a Unisaw, but this is really getting my interest.

thks for the help
wayne



Eight to ten years and farther back the Unisaw would have been a good
choice. Since then it simply is not what it usta be. Delta was having QC
problems with the saw and their have been many reports of new Unisaws
arriving with broken trunions. For a while Delta blamed the shipping
company. Either way, Jet, Grizzly and Powermatic would probably be equal
or better alternatives. FIY.

The SawStop is probably be a better alternative but will cost more. The
SawStop has been around for 5 or 6 years and has been in production and for
sale for 2 or 3 years. "Some" early models were exhibiting false triggers
however those that reported this have also indicated that the SawStop people
worked with them to resolve the problem. One of the problems was that a one
of the users in a shop of users caused false triggers because of the
electronic watch that he was wearing IIRC. Apparently some type of diode
was added to the electrical circuit to solve the problem, IIRC it was also
reported by the same owner that the saw triggered again with the same user
but this time it saved a trip to the hospital.
One of the most common questions about the saw concerning the ability to
trigger is if the saw will trigger with the power off. What if the
electricity goes off and the lights go out while sawing? Apparently the saw
still has the ability to trigger if the power is lost or if you turn the
power swath off and the blade is still spinning.

In article AOfWh.105124$aG1.85718@pd7urf3no, Wayne J. wrote:
...snipped...
Believe it or not, this is the first I have heard of this saw. I have been
researching it as my old Rockwell cabinet saw has about had it. My
preference would be a Unisaw, but this is really getting my interest.

thks for the help
wayne



A Rockwell cabinet saw IS a unisaw, no?


--
When the game is over, the pawn and the king are returned to the same box.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org

In article , "Toller" wrote:

Others like to be helpful and will respond because they enjoy it.
And then there is Doug... He has nothing better to do than respond, but
instead of being helpful, he is nasty.

There was nothing nasty in what I wrote. I pointed him to a place where he
could get answers to his questions. What's your problem with that?

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

He has nothing better to do than respond, but instead of being helpful, he
is nasty. I don't even like to think about what he is compensating for.

Nasty? If you think anyone here is nasty, spend a few days over at
rec.outdoors.rv-travel. Salty bunch of *******s!

BTW, ignore Doug and ask away. Most folks over here are pretty easy to get
along with. Apparently it's Doug's time of the month.

RonB

In article , "RonB" wrote:

He has nothing better to do than respond, but instead of being helpful, he
is nasty. I don't even like to think about what he is compensating for.

Nasty? If you think anyone here is nasty, spend a few days over at
rec.outdoors.rv-travel. Salty bunch of *******s!

BTW, ignore Doug and ask away. Most folks over here are pretty easy to get
along with. Apparently it's Doug's time of the month.

I'm waiting for you to make similar comments about CW, whose response to Wayne
was considerably more abrupt than mine.
RonB



--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

"RonB" wrote in message
...

He has nothing better to do than respond, but instead of being helpful,
he is nasty. I don't even like to think about what he is compensating
for.

Nasty? If you think anyone here is nasty, spend a few days over at
rec.outdoors.rv-travel. Salty bunch of *******s!

BTW, ignore Doug and ask away. Most folks over here are pretty easy to
get
along with. Apparently it's Doug's time of the month.

RonB


thanks Ron. The only other NG, I go to is RORT, so I am used to it.

wayne

Wayne J. wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message
news
In article h_dWh.102630$6m4.6331@pd7urf1no, "Wayne J."
wrote:
http://www.sawstop.com/

Is this for real?
has anyone actually used one?
how accurate are they or has all the money been put in to the safety
features?
Here we go again...

SawStop has been discussed _to_death_ on this newsgroup. Please do a
Google
Groups search to find the previous discussions (and there have been MANY).
If,
after reading all that, you still have any questions, then come back with
them.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

sorry for asking. I have read a lot on it and now I thought I would ask a
few questions


I have been using one at work for about four months now, and it is a
great saw. We all know about the nickel test, well, this saw passes the
dime test. I can stand the dime on edge with the saw stopped, turn it
on and it hardly even wiggles. I have not told my kids about the safety
feature because some would intentionally trip it to see it work. Some
of my advanced kids know about it, but I have asked them to keep it to
themselves.

Believe it or not, one of our school janitors wanted to see how it
worked and touched an allen wrench to the spinning blade and tripped it.
Ruined the blade and a cartridge. I was ****ed. Another janitor told
me who did it and I confronted the dumb turd. He fessed up and bought
both out of his own pocket.

Glen

This again? Try Google.

"Wayne J." wrote in message
news:h_dWh.102630$6m4.6331@pd7urf1no...
http://www.sawstop.com/

Is this for real?
has anyone actually used one?
how accurate are they or has all the money been put in to the safety
features?

wayne

why can't a person just ask a question and not get a civil answer?

Like I have posted above, I have researched this and I am asking for some
genuine opinions. If you don't have one, then don't asnwer.

I am very sorry I cam back to this group.

thank you
wayne

"CW" wrote in message
.net...
This again? Try Google.

"Wayne J." wrote in message
news:h_dWh.102630$6m4.6331@pd7urf1no...
http://www.sawstop.com/

Is this for real?
has anyone actually used one?
how accurate are they or has all the money been put in to the safety
features?

wayne

"Wayne J." wrote in
news:q4nWh.111119$aG1.88833@pd7urf3no:

why can't a person just ask a question and not get a civil answer?

Like I have posted above, I have researched this and I am asking for
some genuine opinions. If you don't have one, then don't asnwer.

I am very sorry I cam back to this group.

thank you
wayne

The subject has been discussed to death.
What I got from all the opinions is that the Sawstop company would like to
make their patented technology obligatory in the name of safety. They
could not persuade nor legislate that. So they decided to make their own
machine. Apparently it is generally well made, does what it advertizes,
but is expensive. You do the cost-benefit analysis.


--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

"Han" wrote in message
...
"Wayne J." wrote in
news:q4nWh.111119$aG1.88833@pd7urf3no:

why can't a person just ask a question and not get a civil answer?

Like I have posted above, I have researched this and I am asking for
some genuine opinions. If you don't have one, then don't asnwer.

I am very sorry I cam back to this group.

thank you
wayne

The subject has been discussed to death.
What I got from all the opinions is that the Sawstop company would like to
make their patented technology obligatory in the name of safety. They
could not persuade nor legislate that. So they decided to make their own
machine. Apparently it is generally well made, does what it advertizes,
but is expensive. You do the cost-benefit analysis.


--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

thanks Han.

I am seeing that as it is about $2,000 higher then a Unisaw up here in
Canada. I think I may still go with the Unisaw or a Jet.

I am going to go talk to a friend at Lee Valley today, though.

thks
Wayne

"Wayne J." wrote in message
news:MCnWh.111476$DE1.21531@pd7urf2no...

I am going to go talk to a friend at Lee Valley today, though.

There you go, smart idea. Advice and or actual experience, perhaps a hands
on trial would be the best answer to you questions. As indicated this has
been discussed here to some length and many dislike the company and
therefore the saw because of the way it was being introduced in the early
days. They wanted the government to require that this safety devise be
added to ALL saws. Many calimed that the saw would never make it to market
because of the lack of interest and or money. It's here, and apparently it
is liked my more than a few thought.

Either way, it is a good idea to to the toughy feely thing with any sizeable
investment.

Wayne J. wrote:

am seeing that as it is about $2,000 higher then a Unisaw up here in
Canada. I think I may still go with the Unisaw or a Jet.

Check out Powermatic and General as well.

--
It's turtles, all the way down

Might look at Grizzly 1023 series too. I don't know what shipping into
Canada costs but it is in a real similar class as the Unisaw and Jet Cabinet
saws.

RonB

"Wayne J." wrote in message
news:MCnWh.111476$DE1.21531@pd7urf2no...

"Han" wrote in message
...
"Wayne J." wrote in
news:q4nWh.111119$aG1.88833@pd7urf3no:

why can't a person just ask a question and not get a civil answer?

Like I have posted above, I have researched this and I am asking for
some genuine opinions. If you don't have one, then don't asnwer.

I am very sorry I cam back to this group.

thank you
wayne

The subject has been discussed to death.
What I got from all the opinions is that the Sawstop company would like
to
make their patented technology obligatory in the name of safety. They
could not persuade nor legislate that. So they decided to make their own
machine. Apparently it is generally well made, does what it advertizes,
but is expensive. You do the cost-benefit analysis.


--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

thanks Han.

I am seeing that as it is about $2,000 higher then a Unisaw up here in
Canada. I think I may still go with the Unisaw or a Jet.

I am going to go talk to a friend at Lee Valley today, though.

thks
Wayne

On Apr 21, 7:29 am, Han wrote:
"Wayne J." wrote innews:q4nWh.111119$aG1.88833@pd7urf3no:

why can't a person just ask a question and not get a civil answer?

Like I have posted above, I have researched this and I am asking for
some genuine opinions. If you don't have one, then don't asnwer.

I am very sorry I cam back to this group.

thank you
wayne

The subject has been discussed to death.
What I got from all the opinions is that the Sawstop company would like to
make their patented technology obligatory in the name of safety. They
could not persuade nor legislate that. So they decided to make their own
machine. Apparently it is generally well made, does what it advertizes,
but is expensive. You do the cost-benefit analysis.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Apparently it is generally well made, does what it advertizes,
but is expensive. You do the cost-benefit analysis.


Depends....what does a hand cost these days?

People are always willing to pay more for safety features AFTER the
accident.

TMT

Wayne J. wrote:
why can't a person just ask a question and not get a civil answer?

Like I have posted above, I have researched this and I am asking for some
genuine opinions. If you don't have one, then don't asnwer.

I am very sorry I cam back to this group.

thank you
wayne

Wayne, let me give you a helpful answer. This is the result
line from an advanced google search on "sawstop":

Results 1 - 10 of 685 for "sawstop" group:rec.woodworking

Would you like for us to repeat all of the previous posts, or
just the ones that pertain to what you are asking? Wouldn't
it be easier just to look at the 685 previous posts on the
subject in this NG, then if there is something that has not
already been covered, you could ask about that?

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

In article q4nWh.111119$aG1.88833@pd7urf3no, "Wayne J." wrote:
why can't a person just ask a question and not get a civil answer?

Why can't a person do a little research before asking a question that's
already been answered a hundred times?

Like I have posted above, I have researched this and I am asking for some
genuine opinions.

To be quite honest, I don't believe that. If you had done any research on the
SawStop in Google Groups, you would have found plenty of genuine opinions,
both positive and negative.

If you don't have one, then don't asnwer.

A gentle suggestion that you should do a little research on your own *is* a
"genuine opinion". If you don't like it, don't read it.

I am very sorry I cam back to this group.

You're probably not the only one.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Doug,

Deep breath in......

Your suggestions that people research before they ask a question here is
fundamentaly flawed.

What makes you the sole arbiter of where one commences a search? Why is
it correct that someone must search google before they use a newsgroup?
Newsgroups pre-date Google by a looong way. What makes it correct that you
can't come here until you have been there?????

Your position is based on YOUR view of the world, and which end of the
chicken the bloody egg came out of.

My view is that there is NOTHING wrong with someone asking in a
newsgroup a question that might have been asked a million times. Go to a
pub, lean against the local bar, and ask "Who is that statue out there in
memory of?" They don't all pipe in and say "Go to the Library mate - all the
answers you need are there, now **** off "

I was importing the mail for Australia on a 1200/300 push button dial up
link to California, long before the Internet became fashionable. (3:640/301,
820, 801, 802 and for a while 3:640/0 and /1. We had these same arguments
back then - why dont you read the archives blah blah blah. Well - the WORLD
is so big u see, that there are new people coming on board all the time -
was true then, and is more true now - there are people every day STARTING at
google, or STARTING on newsgroups, or STARTING with a text book. The
residents of Google-land, Newsgroup land, and or the Library should not be
pointing at some other source of the information and re-directing. If you
don't want to provide the answer - shut up and let some one else do so. (I
don't mean that to sound aggressive - it is not meant that way) There are
plenty of people who will give an answer to a question that has been asked
before, of someone else, by someone else at a different time. And If I have
seen it before - I move on. Is easy. IS certainly easier than all this
moaning of mine :-)


Your position is yours - I just object to you being so bloody minded
about it - thats my position :-)

Have good day.

O, btw, Does anybody have any info on explosions caused by ungrounded dust
collection systems?

Regards
Mike (in flameproof suit)
Brisbane Australia


"Doug Miller" wrote in message
. ..
In article q4nWh.111119$aG1.88833@pd7urf3no, "Wayne J."
wrote:
why can't a person just ask a question and not get a civil answer?

Why can't a person do a little research before asking a question that's
already been answered a hundred times?

SNIP

I am very sorry I cam back to this group.

You're probably not the only one.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

SNAP

5
"Mike Richardson" wrote in message
Your suggestions that people research before they ask a question here is
fundamentaly flawed.

It may have been a flawed suggestion at one time, but considering the ease
with which one can get most information these days, it makes complete sense
to try to find the answer yourself first. Any experience at all on the
internet teaches most people that it's essentially lazy for one not to try
on their own first.

As well, it could be considered self-preservation. If the OP had posted
something like, "I did a Google search but didn't come up with any
information" then he'd have been much more well received. Of course, if he'd
tried that line with the fact that he'd Googled Sawstop and found nothing,
then he'd have been laughed out of town.

My view is that there is NOTHING wrong with someone asking in a
newsgroup..........

Amen. Actually, I though that was why we hang out in theses places.

To help and to learn.

RonB

"Mike Richardson" wrote in message
...
Doug,

Deep breath in......

Your suggestions that people research before they ask a question here
is
fundamentaly flawed.

What makes you the sole arbiter of where one commences a search? Why
is
it correct that someone must search google before they use a newsgroup?
Newsgroups pre-date Google by a looong way. What makes it correct that
you
can't come here until you have been there?????

Your position is based on YOUR view of the world, and which end of the
chicken the bloody egg came out of.

My view is that there is NOTHING wrong with someone asking in a
newsgroup a question that might have been asked a million times. Go to a
pub, lean against the local bar, and ask "Who is that statue out there in
memory of?" They don't all pipe in and say "Go to the Library mate - all
the
answers you need are there, now **** off "


Well there is a refreshing different point of view that makes a lot of
sense.

In article ,
says...
Doug,

Deep breath in......

Your suggestions that people research before they ask a question here is
fundamentaly flawed.

What makes you the sole arbiter of where one commences a search?

What makes you think that I'm attempting to set myself up as "the sole
arbiter of where one commences a search"? Get a grip, Mike, all I did
was suggest that since the SawStop has already been discussed here
numerous times, he should check Google Groups to see what's already been
said.

Why is
it correct that someone must search google before they use a newsgroup?
Newsgroups pre-date Google by a looong way. What makes it correct that you
can't come here until you have been there?????

Again -- if he wants opinions on the SawStop, the easiest way of finding
them is to look at the opinions that have already been expressed.

Your position is based on YOUR view of the world, and which end of the
chicken the bloody egg came out of.

My view is that there is NOTHING wrong with someone asking in a
newsgroup a question that might have been asked a million times. Go to a
pub, lean against the local bar, and ask "Who is that statue out there in
memory of?" They don't all pipe in and say "Go to the Library mate - all the
answers you need are there, now **** off "

And where did I tell him anything even remotely like "all the answers
you need are there, now **** off"??

Relax, have a cold beer, and calm down.

"Wayne J." wrote in message
news:q4nWh.111119$aG1.88833@pd7urf3no...
why can't a person just ask a question and not get a civil answer?

Like I have posted above, I have researched this and I am asking for some
genuine opinions. If you don't have one, then don't asnwer.

I am very sorry I cam back to this group.

thank you
wayne

"CW" wrote in message
.net...
This again? Try Google.

"Wayne J." wrote in message
news:h_dWh.102630$6m4.6331@pd7urf1no...
http://www.sawstop.com/

Is this for real?
has anyone actually used one?
how accurate are they or has all the money been put in to the safety
features?

wayne



Wayne, don't give up too soon. I'm a new woodworker (maybe not in years, but
in number of hours spent on it as a hobby) and I've received way more advice
from this group than I could ever hope to contribute in return.

There are some who can be abrupt in their response, but keep in mind that in
a newsgroup nobody owes you an answer. If someone takes the time to type out
a response to your question, that's an act of generosity.

Plus, I think if you look back at your three questions, they truly have been
answered in previous discussions. That's why so many people just respond
with "Do a Google News search".

In article q4nWh.111119$aG1.88833@pd7urf3no, Wayne J.
wrote:

why can't a person just ask a question and not get a civil answer?

Like I have posted above, I have researched this and I am asking for some
genuine opinions. If you don't have one, then don't asnwer.

But you indicated none of that in your original post. There was no sign
you had done any research and you didn't ask for opinions.

--
I am extraordinarily patient, provided I get my own way in the end.
- Margaret Thatcher

"Wayne J." wrote in message
why can't a person just ask a question and not get a civil answer?

Like I have posted above, I have researched this and I am asking for some
genuine opinions. If you don't have one, then don't asnwer.

I am very sorry I cam back to this group.

thank you
wayne

Next time specifically request "civil" opinions ... while you still may not
get any, you will at least have a leg to stand on when whining.

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"Swingman" wrote in message
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Next time specifically request "civil" opinions ... while you still may
not
get any, you will at least have a leg to stand on when whining.


;~)

"Leon" wrote in message

"Swingman" wrote in message



Next time specifically request "civil" opinions ... while you still may
not
get any, you will at least have a leg to stand on when whining.


;~)

Hey, ya gotta be TOUGH in this 'hood!

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SNIP

Next time specifically request "civil" opinions ... while you still may
not
get any, you will at least have a leg to stand on when whining.

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SNIP

LOL!
:-)
Mike.

"Wayne J." wrote in message
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why can't a person just ask a question and not get a civil answer?

Like I have posted above, I have researched this and I am asking for some
genuine opinions. If you don't have one, then don't asnwer.

I am very sorry I cam back to this group.

thank you
wayne

"CW" wrote in message
.net...
This again? Try Google.

"Wayne J." wrote in message
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http://www.sawstop.com/

Is this for real?
has anyone actually used one?
how accurate are they or has all the money been put in to the safety
features?

wayne




Man, this is a tough crowd.

Anyways, thanks everyone for your opinions. I am going to explore it, along
with Delta and a couple of others. SWMBO is getting real concerned with my
old saw, so maybe she will let me spring for a "safer" saw.

Wayne

"Wayne J." wrote in message
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Man, this is a tough crowd.

Ywah, it can be. Lots of us like to yank yank chains. ;~)

Please do stick around as we can use some input from the tool guys with
knowledge of the products.


Anyways, thanks everyone for your opinions. I am going to explore it,
along with Delta and a couple of others. SWMBO is getting real concerned
with my old saw, so maybe she will let me spring for a "safer" saw.

And now that I know that you are very familiar with the Unisaw, I can whole
heartedly recommend you continue to consider it. There should be no
surprises.
If you would consider the little less traditional TS's take a look at the
Laguna's also. They are in the PM66 and Saw Stop price range. Still the
SawStop should prevent serious injury.