On Mar 14, 7:41 am, "J. Clarke" wrote:

As a matter of curiosity have you ever tried Mexican corn flourhttp://www.amazon.com/Maseca-Corn-Flour-4-4-lbs/dp/B0000IJYK4?

Different animal. That stuff is a staple around here, and becoming
more popular for its intention, tortillas de maiz due to it being
significantly more healthy than its counterpart, tortillas de harina
(flour).

It is slaked cornmeal, not meant for frying.

Robert

On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:19:26 -0400, (J T)
wrote:

Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 1:26am (EDT-3) doth sayeth:
snip the old fashioned squatty beer bottles on the other. snip

The long necked bottles had better tasting beer. There's a song
about that too, "Red Necks, Long Necks, And Lone Star Beer".

Don' know about the beer bottles, but I remember that phrase as "red
necks, white sox, and Blue Ribbon beer." See how that incorporates the
red, white, and blue? I remember it as an anthemn for Southern lads.


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Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 2:18pm (EDT-3) doth query:
What? No frogs? snip

Survival food.



JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool

Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 1:02am (EDT+4)
(Lew*Hodgett) doth sayeth:
You missed it, used a fly rod or a cane pole with an artificial fly.
More frogs, less work.

Small piece of white or red rag. You can get a frog to jump 2-3
feet straight up.



JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool

Lew Hodgett wrote:
wrote:



What? No frogs?

You missed it, used a fly rod or a cane pole with an artificial fly.

More frogs, less work.


Spent a summer on my grandparents farm in WV a long, long time ago. The
trick was to swat a bumble bee and stun it. Put him on the hook. Walk a
few feet over to the pond and drop the bumblebee into the water. He'd
revive and start buzzing. Pull the frog out and walk over to a tree.
Swing the frog into the trunk. Place in bucket. When you've got a
half-dozen each, it's time to go fishing (down in the New River Gorge)
in earnest. ;-)

I'm a vegetarian now.

Bill
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is worth a **** unless backed up with enough genuine information to make
him really know what he's talking about.

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On Mar 15, 5:27 am, Bill in Detroit wrote:


The
trick was to swat a bumble bee and stun it. Put him on the hook.

How would you put it on a hook and not kill it?...or without at least
a temporary reaction resulting in a sting?
Are you putting me on?
Bill?
Tell me you're kidding us?

*shudders* (hates bee-like buzzing things)

"Robatoy" wrote in message
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On Mar 15, 5:27 am, Bill in Detroit wrote:


The
trick was to swat a bumble bee and stun it. Put him on the hook.

How would you put it on a hook and not kill it?...or without at least
a temporary reaction resulting in a sting?
Are you putting me on?
Bill?
Tell me you're kidding us?


I don't know the answer but hooking the bait does not always kill it. Think
of fishing worms and live shrimp.

Leon wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
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On Mar 15, 5:27 am, Bill in Detroit wrote:


The
trick was to swat a bumble bee and stun it. Put him on the hook.
How would you put it on a hook and not kill it?...or without at least
a temporary reaction resulting in a sting?
Are you putting me on?
Bill?
Tell me you're kidding us?


I don't know the answer but hooking the bait does not always kill it. Think
of fishing worms and live shrimp.

I haven't seen Robatoy's full post ... your response arrived before his
did. To be honest, that was 45+ years ago. I think we hooked them
through the thorax but I really don't recall. You hold them, IIRC, with
their legs down and bring the hook up through. IIRC, sometimes they DID
revive too soon. Some lived to fly away. Once in a great while, one was
able to sting ... but if you held them right, that didn't happen often.
(I don't recall any of us holding them wrong more than once!) That is
probably as much my imagination as it is my recollection ... maybe more.
I -can- recall a cousin getting stung but ISTR that he had tried to pick
up one that was already reviving and couldn't get a proper grip on it in
time. Occupational hazard.

The frogs weren't dead, just injured. They would bleed in the water but
couldn't swim very well. Nature kicked it. The fish would pick off the
weak one and the boy would pick off the gullible one.

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On Mar 15, 9:10 am, "Leon" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message

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On Mar 15, 5:27 am, Bill in Detroit wrote:

The
trick was to swat a bumble bee and stun it. Put him on the hook.

How would you put it on a hook and not kill it?...or without at least
a temporary reaction resulting in a sting?
Are you putting me on?
Bill?
Tell me you're kidding us?

I don't know the answer but hooking the bait does not always kill it. Think
of fishing worms and live shrimp.

I hook small frogs successfully when I go bass fishing, same with
crawdads. I believe that is possible with bees too... the gist of my
post was more along the lines of: Are you NUTS??...LOL

...like I mean ..a LIVE BEE?

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On Mar 15, 9:10 am, "Leon" wrote:


I hook small frogs successfully when I go bass fishing, same with
crawdads. I believe that is possible with bees too... the gist of my
post was more along the lines of: Are you NUTS??...LOL

..like I mean ..a LIVE BEE?


LOL.. Better'n live Rattlesnake.

On Mar 15, 4:17 pm, "Leon" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message

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On Mar 15, 9:10 am, "Leon" wrote:

I hook small frogs successfully when I go bass fishing, same with
crawdads. I believe that is possible with bees too... the gist of my
post was more along the lines of: Are you NUTS??...LOL

..like I mean ..a LIVE BEE?

LOL.. Better'n live Rattlesnake.

Okay...I'll bite..."what do you catch when using a rattle snake for
bait?"

Leon wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
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On Mar 15, 9:10 am, "Leon" wrote:

I hook small frogs successfully when I go bass fishing, same with
crawdads. I believe that is possible with bees too... the gist of my
post was more along the lines of: Are you NUTS??...LOL

..like I mean ..a LIVE BEE?


LOL.. Better'n live Rattlesnake.

Sure. Frogs got no sense of humor. Live bees sass the frogs. What
happens next is not pretty.

Once you stun the bees, you have several seconds before they shake it off.

When you pick it up, hold the wings pinned to its body and do your thing
with the hook. He who hesitates is lost.


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On Mar 15, 9:34 pm, "Robatoy" wrote:

Okay...I'll bite..."what do you catch when using a rattle snake for
bait?"

A South Texas redneck! We have the annual rattlesnake roundup at
Freer, and when I was down there years ago the boyscouts used to go
out in the heat and scrub to catch rattlesnakes. They sold them as
meat as their fundraiser raiser for the year. The kiddos used to high
tail it off into the scrub in search of the biggest ones they could
find (largest snake = trophy and prize!) with just a snake snare and a
burlap bag. Now there are several charities and sponsors, so I don't
know who gets all the money.

Purchasers buy the snakes and milk them (always a crown pleaser) to
get the venom to make antivenom. They sell the meat all over the
world (sorry - it DOES taste like chicken even though it looks like
fish) and the skins are considered a rare hide overseas.

There are so many snakes out slithering around when they have this
event that they are literally everywhere. When they have had a good
year breeding, in the next few you will see them mashed on every rural
and county road from Freer on south.

You probably think I'm kidding....

http://www.freerrattlesnake.com/

Check out the guest performers list! This is honestly a big deal, and
a real family affair. You eat BBQ of all kinds, drink beer, and there
is a hot sauce tasting contest, snake handling exibition and of course
everything in the world made from the skins; cell phone covers, hat
bands, watch bands, wallets, belts, knife sheaths, boots, you name it.

A big dance at the end of the night under the light bulbs with a good
band.
What more could you ask for?

You had to ask...

Robert

Robatoy wrote:

Okay...I'll bite..."what do you catch when using a rattle snake for
bait?"

Bet you can't guess what you catch when you use a hunk of ground hog
that has been claimed as road kill and laying in the summer sun for
about 2-3 days as bait.

Lew

Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 9:21pm (EDT-3) doty sayeth:
snip They sold them as meat as their fundraiser raiser for the year.
The kiddos used to high tail it off into the scrub in search of the
biggest ones they could find (largest snake = trophy and prize!) with
just a snake snare and a burlap bag. snip

When visiting Arizona years ago my dad met a guy who sold
rattlesnakes to eating places as meat. His snake stick was called a 20
gauge shotgun - blew their heads off. He could have gotten more for
live ones. Personally I'd use a 12 gauge. Rattle snake meat - survival
food. Proably the kind of peope that eat snake also eat bait and call
it sushi. I eat "my" sushi fried.



JOAT
Custom philosophizing done. No job too small; must be indoor work, with
no heavy lifting.

A Rob?

On 15 Mar 2007 20:34:08 -0700, "Robatoy" wrote:

On Mar 15, 4:17 pm, "Leon" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Mar 15, 9:10 am, "Leon" wrote:

I hook small frogs successfully when I go bass fishing, same with
crawdads. I believe that is possible with bees too... the gist of my
post was more along the lines of: Are you NUTS??...LOL

..like I mean ..a LIVE BEE?

LOL.. Better'n live Rattlesnake.

Okay...I'll bite..."what do you catch when using a rattle snake for
bait?"