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I was into a Amish window factory the other day and their air lines
caught my eye. They used 3" PVC pipe for all their air lines suspended from the ceiling with supports and T's with snap couplers at all the work stations. They used brass gas line couplers for shut offs for the various branches. A 8" pressure gauge noted 145# PSI at the end of the line. What are the Plusses for this type of system other than the line acting as a storage media? I didn't see any water separators and was wondering if they were using a engine driven compressor in the cold and drawing cold air into the compressor and bringing it in a warm shop what effect this type of line would have? |
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Interesting.
If that is 3" DWV pipe, I don't think I'd go back in there. I understand it isn't good for pressure lines, and will shatter and blow plastic shrapnel all over the place. And they don't use it in the summer when it is warm and humid? Old Guy "BT98" wrote in message oups.com... I was into a Amish window factory the other day and their air lines caught my eye. They used 3" PVC pipe for all their air lines suspended from the ceiling with supports and T's with snap couplers at all the work stations. They used brass gas line couplers for shut offs for the various branches. A 8" pressure gauge noted 145# PSI at the end of the line. What are the Plusses for this type of system other than the line acting as a storage media? I didn't see any water separators and was wondering if they were using a engine driven compressor in the cold and drawing cold air into the compressor and bringing it in a warm shop what effect this type of line would have? |
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BT98 wrote:
I was into a Amish window factory the other day and their air lines caught my eye. They used 3" PVC pipe for all their air lines suspended from the ceiling with supports and T's with snap couplers at all the work stations. That's a bomb waiting to explode. Definitely would not catch me in the place. BTW, the concept is good, it's the PVC that is a problem. Lew |
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On Mar 3, 5:23 pm, Lew Hodgett wrote:
BT98 wrote: I was into a Amish window factory the other day and their air lines caught my eye. They used 3" PVC pipe for all their air lines suspended from the ceiling with supports and T's with snap couplers at all the work stations. That's a bomb waiting to explode. Definitely would not catch me in the place. BTW, the concept is good, it's the PVC that is a problem. Lew I checked out the pipe at Home Depot and the PSI ratings on this pipe and it is almost double than what they are running on it. It looked like the outside diameter was about 3 inch. This place is on the corner of 700 and Shed road. That may be in Burton, Ohio. |
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On 3 Mar 2007 16:29:06 -0800, "BT98" wrote:
I checked out the pipe at Home Depot and the PSI ratings on this pipe and it is almost double than what they are running on it. The problem is that most PVC pipe is not UV stabilized. If it's painted or enclosed, great. If not, it probably gets brittle with age. I lost count of how many PVC shop aids, truck racks, work stands, storage devices, etc... that I made that became brittle and simply crumpled with sunlight exposure. |
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"BT98" wrote in message ups.com... I checked out the pipe at Home Depot and the PSI ratings on this pipe and it is almost double than what they are running on it. It looked like the outside diameter was about 3 inch. This place is on the corner of 700 and Shed road. That may be in Burton, Ohio. Pressure ratings for PVC are given for liquids not air. Couple that with the damage from UV on those pipes and it's tendency to go brittle with time, and well, let's just say I wouldn't use PVC for air lines. |
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
BT98 wrote: I was into a Amish window factory the other day and their air lines caught my eye. They used 3" PVC pipe for all their air lines suspended from the ceiling with supports and T's with snap couplers at all the work stations. That's a bomb waiting to explode. Definitely would not catch me in the place. BTW, the concept is good, it's the PVC that is a problem. Lew Maybe it's ABS pipe instead? |
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Unless this place was by a nicely moving creek and had either a waterwheel
or a pack of apprentices taking turns on the bicycle powering the compressor, you wern't in an Amish shop. :P "BT98" wrote in message oups.com... I was into a Amish window factory the other day and their air lines caught my eye. They used 3" PVC pipe for all their air lines suspended from the ceiling with supports and T's with snap couplers at all the work stations. They used brass gas line couplers for shut offs for the various branches. A 8" pressure gauge noted 145# PSI at the end of the line. What are the Plusses for this type of system other than the line acting as a storage media? I didn't see any water separators and was wondering if they were using a engine driven compressor in the cold and drawing cold air into the compressor and bringing it in a warm shop what effect this type of line would have? |
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On Mar 3, 6:02 pm, "Myxylplyk" wrote:
Unless this place was by a nicely moving creek and had either a waterwheel or a pack of apprentices taking turns on the bicycle powering the compressor, you wern't in an Amish shop. I have heard that diesel engines are allowed. I will look into this. r |
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Robatoy wrote:
On Mar 3, 6:02 pm, "Myxylplyk" wrote: Unless this place was by a nicely moving creek and had either a waterwheel or a pack of apprentices taking turns on the bicycle powering the compressor, you wern't in an Amish shop. I have heard that diesel engines are allowed. I will look into this. r A few years back I stopped into an Amish woodworking shop In East Otto, NY and was surprised to see a brand new Unisaw in the shop. The owner must have read my face because the first thing he said is, "It's allowed as long as it isn't powered off the grid". He was running it off a generator tied to a Chevy V8. -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA |
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On Mar 3, 7:28 pm, Nova wrote:
Robatoy wrote: On Mar 3, 6:02 pm, "Myxylplyk" wrote: Unless this place was by a nicely moving creek and had either a waterwheel or a pack of apprentices taking turns on the bicycle powering the compressor, you wern't in an Amish shop. I have heard that diesel engines are allowed. I will look into this. r A few years back I stopped into an Amish woodworking shop In East Otto, NY and was surprised to see a brand new Unisaw in the shop. The owner must have read my face because the first thing he said is, "It's allowed as long as it isn't powered off the grid". He was running it off a generator tied to a Chevy V8. Many years ago, I think it was FWW which featured an article about an Amish shop which ran entirely off hydraulic and air motors. The main power plant was a diesel which ran compressors and/or hydraulic pumps, I am not entirely certain which was the main power supply. IIRC, the routers were air driven. Diesels do not require any electrical auxiliary equipment, and can be started off compressed air, which can either be saved from when the diesel last ran, or pumped up by hand. I was always under the impression that sharing a network of electrical devices with sinners was the reason for their prohibition. r. |
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Nova wrote:
A few years back I stopped into an Amish woodworking shop In East Otto, NY and was surprised to see a brand new Unisaw in the shop. The owner must have read my face because the first thing he said is, "It's allowed as long as it isn't powered off the grid". He was running it off a generator tied to a Chevy V8. It reminds me of my grandfather when one day we went to a store he had sworn he'd never use again: "Anger is one thing but business is business." Sounds like the Amish are reaching a bit to justify what everybody else has already accepted: that we upgrade our circumstances as required. If the Amish were really as old fashioned as the stereotype would suggest, they'd walk instead of riding in one of those newfangled horse drawn carriages. Practicality usually wins out. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com |
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Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Nova wrote: A few years back I stopped into an Amish woodworking shop In East Otto, NY and was surprised to see a brand new Unisaw in the shop. The owner must have read my face because the first thing he said is, "It's allowed as long as it isn't powered off the grid". He was running it off a generator tied to a Chevy V8. It reminds me of my grandfather when one day we went to a store he had sworn he'd never use again: "Anger is one thing but business is business." Sounds like the Amish are reaching a bit to justify what everybody else has already accepted: that we upgrade our circumstances as required. If the Amish were really as old fashioned as the stereotype would suggest, they'd walk instead of riding in one of those newfangled horse drawn carriages. Practicality usually wins out. That's the thing, they aren't "old fashioned", just careful about what changes they make and when they make them. They don't seem to be opposed to change, but they seem determined that they are going to control the changes rather than letting the changes control them. They don't forbid their people to have cars because cars are "newfangled", their reasons are more complex than that--they've watched what happened in the "English" world when everybody had cars and they aren't OK with it. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 06:33:34 -0500, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote: Nova wrote: A few years back I stopped into an Amish woodworking shop In East Otto, NY and was surprised to see a brand new Unisaw in the shop. The owner must have read my face because the first thing he said is, "It's allowed as long as it isn't powered off the grid". He was running it off a generator tied to a Chevy V8. It reminds me of my grandfather when one day we went to a store he had sworn he'd never use again: "Anger is one thing but business is business." Sounds like the Amish are reaching a bit to justify what everybody else has already accepted: that we upgrade our circumstances as required. If the Amish were really as old fashioned as the stereotype would suggest, they'd walk instead of riding in one of those newfangled horse drawn carriages. Practicality usually wins out. My understanding of their original reasoning was that something had to be found in scripture before they would use it. Thus, no buttons because buttons aren't in the Bible. Same thing with electricity and other modern conveniences. However, there are chariots and other horse-drawn conveyances mentioned in the Bible, thus, by default they were OK. It seems that they have made some accomodations more recently and as one poster has indicated, they are trying to be discerning on what they bring in to attempt to exclude what they view as negative influences. +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message ps.com... On Mar 3, 6:02 pm, "Myxylplyk" wrote: Unless this place was by a nicely moving creek and had either a waterwheel or a pack of apprentices taking turns on the bicycle powering the compressor, you wern't in an Amish shop. I have heard that diesel engines are allowed. I will look into this. r I was in an Amish home and it was explained that they won't use electricity from the power company but they had refrigerators and freezers supplied by gasoline generators. B. |
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Buddy Matlosz wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message ps.com... On Mar 3, 6:02 pm, "Myxylplyk" wrote: Unless this place was by a nicely moving creek and had either a waterwheel or a pack of apprentices taking turns on the bicycle powering the compressor, you wern't in an Amish shop. I have heard that diesel engines are allowed. I will look into this. r I was in an Amish home and it was explained that they won't use electricity from the power company but they had refrigerators and freezers supplied by gasoline generators. http://www.uwec.edu/geography/Ivogel...pian/amish.htm has links near the top to some fascinating charts about Amish use of technology. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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J. Clarke wrote:
: : I was in an Amish home and it was explained that they won't use : electricity from the power company but they had refrigerators and : freezers supplied by gasoline generators. If the point of avoiding grid electricity is to not share a system used by English (outsiders), how do they justify making use of a gas distribution system used by English? Or, for that matter, roads made and used by them? is there any internal logic here? : http://www.uwec.edu/geography/Ivogel...pian/amish.htm has links : near the top to some fascinating charts about Amish use of technology. Fascinating, and hard to fathom. -- Andy Barss |
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I was in an Amish home and it was explained that they won't use
electricity from the power company but they had refrigerators and freezers supplied by gasoline generators. B. And the gas they put *into* those generators? Oh, I get it, the power company uses technology to produce electricity and that's bad, but the gas was made by dinosaurs, so that's ok. Wait, made *from* dinosaurs. Hmmm. What if the power company's electricity is produced from a dam? Then it's not different because both groups use running water to power things. Is that OK? I'm confused. Also, what if the topography of the area doesn't even allow for water to run down hill thereby eliminating that power source? I think I have it. To run the refrigerators and such off of electricity generated by their own water power in a topographically challenged area, they use a pump to get the water from the lower holding pond to the upper holding pond so it can continue to run over the wheel (that's recycling, folks) powered by a generator which is run off of squeezins from organically grown corn from the still out back. Before anyone gets in a tizzy, it *is* meant to be humorous. |
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Joe wrote:
I was in an Amish home and it was explained that they won't use electricity from the power company but they had refrigerators and freezers supplied by gasoline generators. B. And the gas they put *into* those generators? Oh, I get it, the power company uses technology to produce electricity and that's bad, but the gas was made by dinosaurs, so that's ok. Wait, made *from* dinosaurs. I don't think that the Amish think in terms of "technology bad". You're confusing them with liberals and econuts. I think it's more a matter of "what happens in our community if we adopt this technology" and instead of opining based in little information they look at "well, the 'English' have been using it now for over a hundred years and here is what has happened with them--we have all these benefits on this side and all these costs (not just financial or environmental) on this side--are the benefits worth the costs?" For a generator-driven Unisaw apparently it works out that they are, for general connection to the electrical grid, apparently it works out that they aren't. Hmmm. What if the power company's electricity is produced from a dam? Then it's not different because both groups use running water to power things. Is that OK? I'm confused. Also, what if the topography of the area doesn't even allow for water to run down hill thereby eliminating that power source? It's different because the source of power seems to be irrelevant to them--what is important is that on-grid electrical power brings in all sorts of what they see as liabilities that don't have anything at all to do with electricity pe se or the means by which it is generated but rather have to do with the kinds of interactions with outside society that are required in order to have it installed and which will be made much easier once it is in place. For example, by going on grid they then become bound by the electrical code, which while it doesn't control how they use it exactly, does require that it be implemented in a way that constitutes temptation to use it in ways that they see as harmful to the community. And by having circuits all over the house now it becomes _easy_ to have a radio or television or cell phone where all of those were more difficult when there was one generator in the workshop and no permanent wiring. I think I have it. To run the refrigerators and such off of electricity generated by their own water power in a topographically challenged area, they use a pump to get the water from the lower holding pond to the upper holding pond so it can continue to run over the wheel (that's recycling, folks) powered by a generator which is run off of squeezins from organically grown corn from the still out back. Actually, most of their refrigerators and the like are gas-fired, not electric. Having electricity in the house at all would be very liberal--some do but it's not mainstream. Before anyone gets in a tizzy, it *is* meant to be humorous. Which it would be if their concerns about technology were based in the issues that you address. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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We got wood from a place called Amish Hardwoods around Burton, Ohio.
The land of snow, maple syrup and Amish buggies. Yes they looked Amish to me. They had some of the coolest power tools I ever saw at my young age of 20. Huge circular saws, power debarkers, kilns. It might be more a question of how strict they are but I guess those guys strayed. I read that the community leaders can decide on thngs like modern cooling systems for their milk so they can sell for higher prices. This article suggest that they need to feed themselves and land is expensive so they might turn to jobs off the farm. http://geography.uwo.ca/research/gre...oweryNoble.pdf I read somewhere that the other benefit of metal pipe besides being less prone to blow up it that is helps condensate the compressed air. I doubt that it is really that effective as I recall plenty of spray in a shop I worked in that had metal air plumbing. On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:02:04 -0500, "Myxylplyk" wrote: Unless this place was by a nicely moving creek and had either a waterwheel or a pack of apprentices taking turns on the bicycle powering the compressor, you wern't in an Amish shop. :P "BT98" wrote in message roups.com... I was into a Amish window factory the other day and their air lines caught my eye. They used 3" PVC pipe for all their air lines suspended from the ceiling with supports and T's with snap couplers at all the work stations. They used brass gas line couplers for shut offs for the various branches. A 8" pressure gauge noted 145# PSI at the end of the line. What are the Plusses for this type of system other than the line acting as a storage media? I didn't see any water separators and was wondering if they were using a engine driven compressor in the cold and drawing cold air into the compressor and bringing it in a warm shop what effect this type of line would have? |
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Myxylplyk wrote:
Unless this place was by a nicely moving creek and had either a waterwheel or a pack of apprentices taking turns on the bicycle powering the compressor, you wern't in an Amish shop. That's not necessarily the case. The Amish don't seem to have any real trouble with using steam or internal combustion engines to power stationary or portable machinery, it's just self-propelled vehicles that they seem to have trouble with. People confuse the Amish with luddites--they aren't anti-technology but they look really hard at how any given use of it will affect their community and their values before they allow its general adoption. P "BT98" wrote in message oups.com... I was into a Amish window factory the other day and their air lines caught my eye. They used 3" PVC pipe for all their air lines suspended from the ceiling with supports and T's with snap couplers at all the work stations. They used brass gas line couplers for shut offs for the various branches. A 8" pressure gauge noted 145# PSI at the end of the line. What are the Plusses for this type of system other than the line acting as a storage media? I didn't see any water separators and was wondering if they were using a engine driven compressor in the cold and drawing cold air into the compressor and bringing it in a warm shop what effect this type of line would have? -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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Myxylplyk wrote:
Unless this place was by a nicely moving creek and had either a waterwheel or a pack of apprentices taking turns on the bicycle powering the compressor, you wern't in an Amish shop. The Amish are allowed to use internal combustions for stationary power. My dad used to sell oil and grease to them. Among other things, they power thrashing machines using a flat belt between the engine and the thrashing machine. Lew |
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On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:02:04 -0500, "Myxylplyk"
wrote: Unless this place was by a nicely moving creek and had either a waterwheel or a pack of apprentices taking turns on the bicycle powering the compressor, you wern't in an Amish shop. Not necessarily true. It depends upon where they are and what their bishop will allow. I've seen articles where they use engines to power milkers saying that's OK as long as the engine is not making a vehicle move. I've also seen an 80's vintage White tractor for sale on the Old Tractors web page indicating it came from an Amish farm. It had steel wheels -- apparently rubber was the forbidden item -- I guess insulation for the cables and wires was OK. :P "BT98" wrote in message roups.com... I was into a Amish window factory the other day and their air lines caught my eye. They used 3" PVC pipe for all their air lines suspended from the ceiling with supports and T's with snap couplers at all the work stations. They used brass gas line couplers for shut offs for the various branches. A 8" pressure gauge noted 145# PSI at the end of the line. What are the Plusses for this type of system other than the line acting as a storage media? I didn't see any water separators and was wondering if they were using a engine driven compressor in the cold and drawing cold air into the compressor and bringing it in a warm shop what effect this type of line would have? +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:02:04 -0500, "Myxylplyk"
wrote: Unless this place was by a nicely moving creek and had either a waterwheel or a pack of apprentices taking turns on the bicycle powering the compressor, you wern't in an Amish shop. They seem to have some sort of bizzarre philosphy that is made up on the fly. I was in one of those Amish towns a while ago, and was bemused to see one of their horse-drawn buggies pull up at the gas station and fill up several 2-3 gal gas cans. I asked a lady in the Amish shop why that was, and the reply was that it's for generators, the use of generators is permitted as the power is "under their control" ie it does not come from the grid where some other (non believer?) contorls it. I pointed out that the generators were probably made in Japan or China and presumably not under their control either and questioned how that could fit. The reply was that Amish philosphy/law was arrived at by a wise old council of men. It's like most religions, there's nothing rational about it. |
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True.
"Barry Lennox" wrote in message ... On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:02:04 -0500, "Myxylplyk" wrote: It's like most religions, there's nothing rational about it. |
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"Barry Lennox" wrote in message
... On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:02:04 -0500, "Myxylplyk" wrote: Unless this place was by a nicely moving creek and had either a waterwheel or a pack of apprentices taking turns on the bicycle powering the compressor, you wern't in an Amish shop. They seem to have some sort of bizzarre philosphy that is made up on the fly. I was in one of those Amish towns a while ago, and was bemused to see one of their horse-drawn buggies pull up at the gas station and fill up several 2-3 gal gas cans. I asked a lady in the Amish shop why that was, and the reply was that it's for generators, the use of generators is permitted as the power is "under their control" ie it does not come from the grid where some other (non believer?) contorls it. I pointed out that the generators were probably made in Japan or China and presumably not under their control either and questioned how that could fit. The reply was that Amish philosphy/law was arrived at by a wise old council of men. It's like most religions, there's nothing rational about it. Whereas secular communities are completely rational, right? Why is it that people feel qualified to critique the Amish's decisions on how they choose to live? I promise you they don't stay awake nights wondering if you accept their lifestyle. todd |
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On Mar 3, 3:39 pm, "BT98" wrote:
I was into a Amish window factory the other day and their air lines caught my eye. They used 3" PVC pipe for all their air lines suspended from the ceiling with supports and T's with snap couplers at all the work stations. They used brass gas line couplers for shut offs for the various branches. A 8" pressure gauge noted 145# PSI at the end of the line. What are the Plusses for this type of system other than the line acting as a storage media? I didn't see any water separators and was wondering if they were using a engine driven compressor in the cold and drawing cold air into the compressor and bringing it in a warm shop what effect this type of line would have? The biggest industrial users of pipe are oil refineries, petrochemical and chemical plants.The specifications for the piping they use is governed by various technical Societies (API etc). They will not permits PVC in compressed air sevice for the reasons mentioned here by others. One piece of equipment the big guys can afford is an air drier which uses dessicant beds to dry the air. If someone made a low priced unit woodwookers could use it for sprayi guns and pneumatic tools. I have seen cabinet shops which fabricated a labyrinth of pipe down stream of their compessor to allow the moist compessed air some heat transfer exposure to the ambient air thereby cooling it to below the dew point. Seems an inexpensive way to improve the quality of air in small woodworking shops. Joe G |
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GROVER wrote:
I have seen cabinet shops which fabricated a labyrinth of pipe down stream of their compessor to allow the moist compessed air some heat transfer exposure to the ambient air thereby cooling it to below the dew point. Seems an inexpensive way to improve the quality of air in small woodworking shops. Have posted a description of a shop air distribution system using 2" pipe several times in the past. Costs a few $ and takes a little time to install; however the rewards are significant and include: 1) Cooler and drier air. 2) Increased storage capacity which allows longer off cycles for the compressor which also helps produce drier air. 3) More uniform air pressure for longer periods delivered to the air tool. Lew |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
nk.net... Have posted a description of a shop air distribution system using 2" pipe several times in the past. I have google groups open and you've posted a lot on this. If you don't mind I'd appreciate (a) link(s) to the message(s) you consider the most relevant. Thanks. -- Mark |
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Mark Jerde wrote:
I have google groups open and you've posted a lot on this. If you don't mind I'd appreciate (a) link(s) to the message(s) you consider the most relevant. Don't have any links, but consider the following: You want to construct a closed rectangular loop around your shop using 2"pipe. 2" is about as big as you can easily thread by hand. Using 60" long, 2" nipples and 2x2x3/4 tees, along with a union allows you to do this. You also need four (4), 2x2x2 tees with plugs for the corners. Arrange the tees so that the 3/4 side is facing up. Install two (2), 3/4 street ells at each tee so that the opening is now facing down. This forces the air to change directions by 180 degrees, which helps the water to drop out. That's about it. Hope this helps. Lew |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
nk.net... Mark Jerde wrote: I have google groups open and you've posted a lot on this. If you don't mind I'd appreciate (a) link(s) to the message(s) you consider the most relevant. Don't have any links, but consider the following: You want to construct a closed rectangular loop around your shop using 2"pipe. 2" is about as big as you can easily thread by hand. Using 60" long, 2" nipples and 2x2x3/4 tees, along with a union allows you to do this. You also need four (4), 2x2x2 tees with plugs for the corners. Arrange the tees so that the 3/4 side is facing up. Install two (2), 3/4 street ells at each tee so that the opening is now facing down. This forces the air to change directions by 180 degrees, which helps the water to drop out. That's about it. Hope this helps. Lew Yes it does Lew, thanks. In the nexxt 12 months I hope to be able to afford to move to another state and build a shop. Good air is one of the things I want in the shop. -- Mark |
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i wouldn"t use pvc airlines, jet blue either
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Ross Hebeisen wrote:
i wouldn"t use pvc airlines, jet blue either ross Groan!!!!!!!!! -- I am disillusioned enough to know that no man's opinion on any subject is worth a **** unless backed up with enough genuine information to make him really know what he's talking about. H. P. Lovecraft --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000721-1, 03/03/2007 Tested on: 3/4/2007 8:45:43 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
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