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Questions on installing air lines
I'm installing a compressed air system in my shop and have a few
questions. It's a home made system with components I bought separately. 1. Does it matter (for performance reasons) where the output and input of the tank are located? Should one be higher or lower than the other? Could they be the same? (by using a tee) 2. Should the lines drain back toward the tank or away from it? 3. Black pipe? Galvanized? 4. What PSI do you run at your tank? |
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 03:36:31 GMT, asdf wrote:
I'm installing a compressed air system in my shop and have a few questions. It's a home made system with components I bought separately. 1. Does it matter (for performance reasons) where the output and input of the tank are located? Should one be higher or lower than the other? Could they be the same? (by using a tee) 2. Should the lines drain back toward the tank or away from it? 3. Black pipe? Galvanized? 4. What PSI do you run at your tank? The answer is 42 Gunner Come shed a tear for Michael Moore- Though he smirked and lied like a two-bit whore George Bush has just won another four. Poor, sad little Michael Moore Diogenes |
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asdf wrote:
I'm installing a compressed air system in my shop and have a few questions. It's a home made system with components I bought separately. 1. Does it matter (for performance reasons) where the output and input of the tank are located? Should one be higher or lower than the other? Could they be the same? (by using a tee) 2. Should the lines drain back toward the tank or away from it? 3. Black pipe? Galvanized? 4. What PSI do you run at your tank? http://www.tptools.com/statictext/ai...ng-diagram.pdf |
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asdf wrote in news:33Und.7398$pK6.7190
@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net: I'm installing a compressed air system in my shop and have a few questions. It's a home made system with components I bought separately. 1. Does it matter (for performance reasons) where the output and input of the tank are located? Should one be higher or lower than the other? Could they be the same? (by using a tee) 2. Should the lines drain back toward the tank or away from it? 3. Black pipe? Galvanized? 4. What PSI do you run at your tank? Personally, when we piped our last one we put a separate inlet/outlet, both at the top of the tank, but opposite sides. This gives a little time for water to get out of the air in the tank prior to going to the tools. We put a large drip-leg (4" pipe, about 18" long) between the compressor and the tank, and coming out of the tank, and again inside where the pipe came through the wall, as well as sloped each pipe around the wall toward the corners and a small drip leg installed there also . There are programmable dump valves on all three large drip legs, as well as the tank drain. All fittings come out the top side of the pipe, as is standard pneumatic plumbing practice. We used a coil of 3/4" copper tubing vertically out of the tank, this acts as a heat sink and helps get water out. A high pressure air-to-air heat exchanger will work also (think high pressure radiator with a fan). There is a water separator/filter/regulator where the pipe comes through the wall, after the drip leg. This is the main filter/regulator for the system, and with this arraingement and regular, daily use year round, the separator only needs drained every couple of months, sans spring, when the humidity is horrible around here, it's a weekly job during that time. -- Anthony You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make better idiots. Remove sp to reply via email |
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Thanks for all the fish, Gunner. :-)
Shawn "Gunner" wrote in message ... On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 03:36:31 GMT, asdf wrote: I'm installing a compressed air system in my shop and have a few questions. It's a home made system with components I bought separately. 1. Does it matter (for performance reasons) where the output and input of the tank are located? Should one be higher or lower than the other? Could they be the same? (by using a tee) 2. Should the lines drain back toward the tank or away from it? 3. Black pipe? Galvanized? 4. What PSI do you run at your tank? The answer is 42 Gunner Come shed a tear for Michael Moore- Though he smirked and lied like a two-bit whore George Bush has just won another four. Poor, sad little Michael Moore Diogenes |
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 03:36:31 GMT, asdf wrote:
I'm installing a compressed air system in my shop and have a few questions. It's a home made system with components I bought separately. 1. Does it matter (for performance reasons) where the output and input of the tank are located? Should one be higher or lower than the other? Could they be the same? (by using a tee) Yes, it matters. Use two seperate openings. one in, usually on top cause dats where da pump is. Second, outlet normally half way up on tank, reservoir. Your tank catches most of the moisture dat way. Unless you like gittin mist in yer puss everytime you use air. 2. Should the lines drain back toward the tank or away from it? Don't matter. Install a Tee when turning a corner or every hunnert yards, wit a drain valve. 3. Black pipe? Galvanized? don't matter, it's what you can afford. Don't use garden hose, keeps bursting, more trouble den it's wert. 4. What PSI do you run at your tank? About 150 or 175, but it's a two stage compressor. You'll never see dat from a singlestage. 100-120 if single, if that psi doesn't overheat yer pump or motor. I can't think of any air tool that ever had too much psi, eventhough most state 90 is good. 120 is better. |
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Grant Erwin wrote:
asdf wrote: I'm installing a compressed air system in my shop and have a few questions. It's a home made system with components I bought separately. 1. Does it matter (for performance reasons) where the output and input of the tank are located? Should one be higher or lower than the other? Could they be the same? (by using a tee) 2. Should the lines drain back toward the tank or away from it? 3. Black pipe? Galvanized? 4. What PSI do you run at your tank? http://www.tptools.com/statictext/ai...ng-diagram.pdf Great diagram! Thanks! |
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Anthony wrote:
asdf wrote in news:33Und.7398$pK6.7190 @newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net: I'm installing a compressed air system in my shop and have a few questions. It's a home made system with components I bought separately. 1. Does it matter (for performance reasons) where the output and input of the tank are located? Should one be higher or lower than the other? Could they be the same? (by using a tee) 2. Should the lines drain back toward the tank or away from it? 3. Black pipe? Galvanized? 4. What PSI do you run at your tank? Personally, when we piped our last one we put a separate inlet/outlet, both at the top of the tank, but opposite sides. This gives a little time for water to get out of the air in the tank prior to going to the tools. We put a large drip-leg (4" pipe, about 18" long) between the compressor and the tank, and coming out of the tank, and again inside where the pipe came through the wall, as well as sloped each pipe around the wall toward the corners and a small drip leg installed there also . There are programmable dump valves on all three large drip legs, as well as the tank drain. All fittings come out the top side of the pipe, as is standard pneumatic plumbing practice. We used a coil of 3/4" copper tubing vertically out of the tank, this acts as a heat sink and helps get water out. A high pressure air-to-air heat exchanger will work also (think high pressure radiator with a fan). There is a water separator/filter/regulator where the pipe comes through the wall, after the drip leg. This is the main filter/regulator for the system, and with this arraingement and regular, daily use year round, the separator only needs drained every couple of months, sans spring, when the humidity is horrible around here, it's a weekly job during that time. Oh yeah!!! Wait till I tell the wife I need programmable dump valves!!! |
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joe wrote:
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 03:36:31 GMT, asdf wrote: I'm installing a compressed air system in my shop and have a few questions. It's a home made system with components I bought separately. 1. Does it matter (for performance reasons) where the output and input of the tank are located? Should one be higher or lower than the other? Could they be the same? (by using a tee) Yes, it matters. Use two seperate openings. one in, usually on top cause dats where da pump is. Second, outlet normally half way up on tank, reservoir. Your tank catches most of the moisture dat way. Unless you like gittin mist in yer puss everytime you use air. 2. Should the lines drain back toward the tank or away from it? Don't matter. Install a Tee when turning a corner or every hunnert yards, wit a drain valve. 3. Black pipe? Galvanized? don't matter, it's what you can afford. Don't use garden hose, keeps bursting, more trouble den it's wert. 4. What PSI do you run at your tank? About 150 or 175, but it's a two stage compressor. You'll never see dat from a singlestage. 100-120 if single, if that psi doesn't overheat yer pump or motor. I can't think of any air tool that ever had too much psi, eventhough most state 90 is good. 120 is better. ...tanks! |
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:12:35 -0500, "Shawn" shawn_75ATcomcastDOTnet
wrote: Thanks for all the fish, Gunner. :-) Shawn The other also equally valid answer...is "shopping" G Gunner "Gunner" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 03:36:31 GMT, asdf wrote: I'm installing a compressed air system in my shop and have a few questions. It's a home made system with components I bought separately. 1. Does it matter (for performance reasons) where the output and input of the tank are located? Should one be higher or lower than the other? Could they be the same? (by using a tee) 2. Should the lines drain back toward the tank or away from it? 3. Black pipe? Galvanized? 4. What PSI do you run at your tank? The answer is 42 Gunner Come shed a tear for Michael Moore- Though he smirked and lied like a two-bit whore George Bush has just won another four. Poor, sad little Michael Moore Diogenes Come shed a tear for Michael Moore- Though he smirked and lied like a two-bit whore George Bush has just won another four. Poor, sad little Michael Moore Diogenes |
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