Once again we're being treated to early (1991) NYW episodes. (I get
giggle fits watching him drive screws with a corded drill!) Recently
one episode showed him using an overhead router. What a beast! I
don't think it hung around his workshop very long. Am I right in
supposing it was more of an industrial than home woodworker type of
toy?

FoggyTown

Guess I'm stuck in 1991 as I do not own a cordless tool. I know they
would be more convenient, but I just don't feel like the hastle of the
batteries - charging, finding one that has a charge, banging into the
charger and it breaks on the floor, replacing them, etc, plus the
expense of a battery powered tool. I suppose if I was in an area that
was hard to get to a power plug, like many home-builders, I would
probably buy one, but since I spend most of my time within easy reach
of a plug, I guess I''ll put up with the inconvenience of corded tools.
Rich

"RJDurkee" wrote in message
oups.com...
Guess I'm stuck in 1991 as I do not own a cordless tool. I know they
would be more convenient, but I just don't feel like the hastle of the
batteries - charging, finding one that has a charge, banging into the
charger and it breaks on the floor, replacing them, etc, plus the
expense of a battery powered tool. I suppose if I was in an area that
was hard to get to a power plug, like many home-builders, I would
probably buy one, but since I spend most of my time within easy reach
of a plug, I guess I''ll put up with the inconvenience of corded tools.
Rich


More power to you!

I seem to recall that at one time he had the overarm router accessory
for the Shopsmith that he had for a time. That may be what you saw.

Where are you seeing these early shows ???

foggytown wrote:

Once again we're being treated to early (1991) NYW episodes. (I get
giggle fits watching him drive screws with a corded drill!) Recently
one episode showed him using an overhead router. What a beast! I
don't think it hung around his workshop very long. Am I right in
supposing it was more of an industrial than home woodworker type of
toy?

FoggyTown

wrote:
I seem to recall that at one time he had the overarm router accessory
for the Shopsmith that he had for a time. That may be what you saw.

I have seen almost none of the shows on a percentage basis, so can't
come close to telling anybody what Nahm has/doesn't have/ever did, but
at about that time Delta was pushing their (then) new overarm/underarm
router. Whether they were sponsors at the time, I also have no idea.

In general, to OP, this was more investment than most homeshop guys had
budget or space for, but particularly for pattern routing it was a
great setup, particularly in the days before the large handheld routers
that now make router tables much more capable.

"foggytown" wrote in message
ps.com...
Once again we're being treated to early (1991) NYW episodes. (I get
What about the ShopSmith and the Craftsman band saw.?

RJDurkee wrote:
Guess I'm stuck in 1991 as I do not own a cordless tool. I know they
would be more convenient, but I just don't feel like the hastle of the
batteries - charging, finding one that has a charge, banging into the
charger and it breaks on the floor, replacing them, etc, plus the
expense of a battery powered tool. I suppose if I was in an area that
was hard to get to a power plug, like many home-builders, I would
probably buy one, but since I spend most of my time within easy reach
of a plug, I guess I''ll put up with the inconvenience of corded tools.
Rich

I don't see anything wrong with corded tools. They certainly have more
power.

I have two cordless drills that have proved their convenience outside
and on the roof, but when I had to hammer drill a ton of holes in my
concrete basement walls for shelf standards and to hang a drainpipe for
the A/C...I brought out the corded beast. An extension cord is much
cheaper than a cordless drill battery.

Mike

Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 9:33am (EDT-3) From: (RJDurkee)
Guess I'm stuck in 1991 as I do not own a cordless tool. I know they
would be more convenient, but I just don't feel like the hastle of the
batteries - charging, finding one that has a charge, banging into the
charger and it breaks on the floor, replacing them, etc, plus the
expense of a battery powered tool. I suppose if I was in an area that
was hard to get to a power plug, like many home-builders, I would
probably buy one, but since I spend most of my time within easy reach of
a plug, I guess I''ll put up with the inconvenience of corded tools.
Rich

I own two cordless drills. One of my sons has one, the last I saw
of it was right after I bought it actually I bought it so he could use
it.. The second is in my shop, I've never even tried it out - and I
still don't know why I bought it..

Both sons use cordless tools in their work, heating & air, and
refrigeration, they work at sites with no electricity, period.

Me, I'm with you, as long as I've got extension cords and
electricity I'll use corded tools. Personally I don't feel they're
inconvenient at all. It's nice to be able to work for hours and the
drill be just as powerful at the end as it was at the beginning, and no
betteries to have to remember to charge, which is or isn't charged, etc.

I just remembered. I bought a cordless drill in 1975-76.
Immediately thereafter bought a corded B&D drill, which i still have and
still use. I don't knnow what happened to the cordless drill, and don't
care.



JOAT
You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear". What do you
"know"?.
- Granny Weatherwax

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:22:06 -0400, "Brent Beal"
wrote:


"foggytown" wrote in message
ups.com...
Once again we're being treated to early (1991) NYW episodes. (I get

What about the ShopSmith and the Craftsman band saw.?

He never had a Craftsman band saw. A Craftsman RAS, yes, but not a
bandsaw.

--
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997

email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:21:47 -0400, (J T)
wrote:

Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 9:33am (EDT-3) From: (RJDurkee)
Guess I'm stuck in 1991 as I do not own a cordless tool. I know they
would be more convenient, but I just don't feel like the hastle of the
batteries - charging, finding one that has a charge, banging into the
charger and it breaks on the floor, replacing them, etc, plus the
expense of a battery powered tool. I suppose if I was in an area that
was hard to get to a power plug, like many home-builders, I would
probably buy one, but since I spend most of my time within easy reach of
a plug, I guess I''ll put up with the inconvenience of corded tools.
Rich

I own two cordless drills. One of my sons has one, the last I saw
of it was right after I bought it actually I bought it so he could use
it.. The second is in my shop, I've never even tried it out - and I
still don't know why I bought it..

Both sons use cordless tools in their work, heating & air, and
refrigeration, they work at sites with no electricity, period.

Me, I'm with you, as long as I've got extension cords and
electricity I'll use corded tools. Personally I don't feel they're
inconvenient at all. It's nice to be able to work for hours and the
drill be just as powerful at the end as it was at the beginning, and no
betteries to have to remember to charge, which is or isn't charged, etc.

I just remembered. I bought a cordless drill in 1975-76.
Immediately thereafter bought a corded B&D drill, which i still have and
still use. I don't knnow what happened to the cordless drill, and don't
care.



Ode to a Corded Drill

Of cordless drills I've got a few
'Bout five they are in number
They've chased their corded brethren out
To rusted dusty slumber


But came this morn I had a task
'Twas not within their compass
I'd fifty two inch holes to drill
This called for much more whoopass


So to their box I guilty stole
Flung up the shrieking lid
They lay inside though long denied
And in their coffin hid


Their tails were coiled 'round them tight
Their copper windings glistened
I saw they hungered for the light
Like babes just newly christened


I held one high against the sky
To read the ancient runes
'Milwaukee' read the word inscribed
Not seen for many moons


His tail was cracked and poorly patched
His body caked in grime
But 'twas a smile on his chuck
He knew it was his time


The old dog didn't ask for much
A dusting and some oil
He sighed at my familiar touch
He'd never known but toil


The shank of that great two inch bit
He took into his maw
I plugged him in and saw him grin
Those cordless watched in awe


As Old Milwaukee cut his holes
With wild electric glee
On and on with guts and brawn
So happy to be free


He never asked for quarter nay
Nor quarter was he givin'
He sang in that great light of day
Till all the holes he'd riven


And all too soon his task was done
His body warmed with labor
I laid him soft upon the bench
A moment one should savor


He'd labored well and I won't dwell
Upon his cordless brothers
Who hid their heads while he did work
T'would make them call their mothers


I won't give up my cordless drills
They've got their time and place
But so do drills with tails my friend
And so they need a space


Not locked away from light of day
In never ending darkness
But out in God's good working light
And ready for the harness


So now my ode is done my friends
I'll tell you what I've learned
Not soon again will that old drill
Have cause to feel he's spurned

Regards,

Tom Watson

tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)

http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

"Lee K" wrote in
:


"RJDurkee" wrote in message
oups.com...
Guess I'm stuck in 1991 as I do not own a cordless tool.

*snip double reply*



More power to you!



Yeah, but watch your step!

Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

"Tom Watson" wrote

Ode to a Corded Drill

Of cordless drills I've got a few
'Bout five they are in number
They've chased their corded brethren out
To rusted dusty slumber


But came this morn I had a task
'Twas not within their compass
I'd fifty two inch holes to drill
This called for much more whoopass


So to their box I guilty stole
Flung up the shrieking lid
They lay inside though long denied
And in their coffin hid


Their tails were coiled 'round them tight
Their copper windings glistened
I saw they hungered for the light
Like babes just newly christened


I held one high against the sky
To read the ancient runes
'Milwaukee' read the word inscribed
Not seen for many moons


His tail was cracked and poorly patched
His body caked in grime
But 'twas a smile on his chuck
He knew it was his time


The old dog didn't ask for much
A dusting and some oil
He sighed at my familiar touch
He'd never known but toil


The shank of that great two inch bit
He took into his maw
I plugged him in and saw him grin
Those cordless watched in awe


As Old Milwaukee cut his holes
With wild electric glee
On and on with guts and brawn
So happy to be free


He never asked for quarter nay
Nor quarter was he givin'
He sang in that great light of day
Till all the holes he'd riven


And all too soon his task was done
His body warmed with labor
I laid him soft upon the bench
A moment one should savor


He'd labored well and I won't dwell
Upon his cordless brothers
Who hid their heads while he did work
T'would make them call their mothers


I won't give up my cordless drills
They've got their time and place
But so do drills with tails my friend
And so they need a space


Not locked away from light of day
In never ending darkness
But out in God's good working light
And ready for the harness


So now my ode is done my friends
I'll tell you what I've learned
Not soon again will that old drill
Have cause to feel he's spurned

Another classic Mr Watson. Thank you. I can just feel Old Red's pride.

We greatly enjoy your stories, yarns and general folk wisdom.

I know that you have heard this before. You otter write a book.

If you ever wrote a book that collected your diverse musings and random
creative acts, I would be the first in line to buy it. After all, if it
wasn't for Nahm, old iron and the musings of Mr Watson, we would have no
cultural life at all!!

Lee Michaels

Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 7:45pm (Tom*Watson) doth strike a
manley pose and did spaketh thusly:
Ode to a Corded Drill
snip of saga-like prose

You drink a LOT of coffee, don'tcha Tom?



JOAT
You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear". What do you
"know"?.
- Granny Weatherwax

I'm with you on that. The only cordless tool I have is a drill and that,
only because of the clutch. I tend to overdrive screws with a corded drill
so leave it to drilling holes and the cordless for the screws.

"RJDurkee" wrote in message
oups.com...
Guess I'm stuck in 1991 as I do not own a cordless tool. I know they
would be more convenient, but I just don't feel like the hastle of the
batteries - charging, finding one that has a charge, banging into the
charger and it breaks on the floor, replacing them, etc, plus the
expense of a battery powered tool. I suppose if I was in an area that
was hard to get to a power plug, like many home-builders, I would
probably buy one, but since I spend most of my time within easy reach
of a plug, I guess I''ll put up with the inconvenience of corded tools.
Rich

Any TV but first you have to have a time machine.
"Pat Barber" wrote in message
...
Where are you seeing these early shows ???

"CW" wrote in news:QWFSg.13534$v%4.4097
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:

Any TV but first you have to have a time machine.
"Pat Barber" wrote in message
...
Where are you seeing these early shows ???





The world of television is the only thing in the Universe I know if with
Time-shifting devices. They're amazing things, really. Something's on
at one time, and you can't watch it then, so you time shift it in to the
future! When the future becomes the present, you watch it, but you've
got an excellent solution for commercials, a time distortion field. See
those lines on the screen when using it? Time's actually moving faster
on the TV!

It's no wonder so many people just let theirs flash 12:00. ;-)

Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

J T wrote:
Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 9:33am (EDT-3) From: (RJDurkee)
Guess I'm stuck in 1991 as I do not own a cordless tool. I know they
would be more convenient, but I just don't feel like the hastle of the
batteries - charging, finding one that has a charge, banging into the
charger and it breaks on the floor, replacing them, etc, plus the
expense of a battery powered tool. I suppose if I was in an area that
was hard to get to a power plug, like many home-builders, I would
probably buy one, but since I spend most of my time within easy reach of
a plug, I guess I''ll put up with the inconvenience of corded tools.
Rich

I own two cordless drills. One of my sons has one, the last I saw
of it was right after I bought it actually I bought it so he could use
it.. The second is in my shop, I've never even tried it out - and I
still don't know why I bought it..

Both sons use cordless tools in their work, heating & air, and
refrigeration, they work at sites with no electricity, period.

Me, I'm with you, as long as I've got extension cords and
electricity I'll use corded tools. Personally I don't feel they're
inconvenient at all. It's nice to be able to work for hours and the
drill be just as powerful at the end as it was at the beginning, and no
betteries to have to remember to charge, which is or isn't charged, etc.

I just remembered. I bought a cordless drill in 1975-76.
Immediately thereafter bought a corded B&D drill, which i still have and
still use. I don't knnow what happened to the cordless drill, and don't
care.

JOAT

Umm . . . everyone missed the point about the corded drill. Every
screw was over-torqued and made a racket while the bit spun around in
the cross slots, probably chewing them up a bit. Not that it mattered
for what he was building.

FoggyTown

Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 3:53am (EDT-3) (foggytown) doth
claimeth:
Umm . . . everyone missed the point about the corded drill. snip

I didn't miss it. I ignored it. I don't drive screws with a dril
- cordless, or corded.



JOAT
You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear". What do you
"know"?.
- Granny Weatherwax

"foggytown" wrote...

an overhead router. What a beast! I
don't think it hung around his workshop very long. Am I right in
supposing it was more of an industrial than home woodworker type of
toy?


There's a lot you can do with a modern router table that used to be with
overhead or pin routers. There's still a lot that pin routers do best, but
not so much that the average home-shop guy would think he needs one. Also
they've become somewhat obscure, and a lot of guys aren't exactly sure what
they'd do with one, and they look a little intimidating.

I've always liked using big Onsrud industrial pin routers; I find them to be
safe to use & easy to set up, and they are ideal for making small moldings,
any kind of radiused moldings, round muntins and the like, also for hogging
out any shape you can think of.


--
Timothy Juvenal
www.tjwoodworking.com

Bravo Tom...again.

Tom Watson wrote:


Ode to a Corded Drill

Of cordless drills I've got a few
'Bout five they are in number
They've chased their corded brethren out
To rusted dusty slumber

J T wrote:
Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 3:53am (EDT-3) (foggytown) doth
claimeth:
Umm . . . everyone missed the point about the corded drill. snip

I didn't miss it. I ignored it.

Remember, "Ignore is close to ignorance."

I don't drive screws with a dril - cordless, or corded.


Uh huh. And I suppose you also make your wife slap your skivvies
against a rock down by the river to clean them?

FoggyTown

Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 10:07am (EDT-3) (foggytown) doth
burbleth:
Remember, "Ignore is close to ignorance."
Uh huh. And I suppose you also make your wife slap your skivvies against
a rock down by the river to clean them?

Remember, "ignore" isn't the only thing close to ignorance. When,
and if, I drive screws, if a regular screwdriver won't cut it, I also
own a Yankee screwdriver, about 50-75 years old, that works perfectly.
And then there's always the brace, with screwdriver bits.
I repeat: "I don't drive screws with a dril - cordless, or corded.".

Hmm, now that I ponder on it, I DO have two older cordless drills
that I sometimes use, only for drilling holes tho, not for driving
screws. One is possibly a Craftsman, no markings on it, excellent
condition. The other is a Sogard, in almost as new condition. Oh yeah,
they're both eggbeater drills. LOL

Haven't you heard? Concrete is the way to go now. That and
running water have revolutionized the laundry world. Of course it's
been 1975 since I've had clothes washed that way. Not to knock it until
you've experienced it, gets clothes clean as any washing machine. And
it's cordless.

All things are open to change.



JOAT
You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear". What do you
"know"?.
- Granny Weatherwax

Tom, I just wanted to thank you for an insightful and tender commentary
on corded drills. When I want power I don't look to my 9V toys but to
our 25 year old power drill.
I laughed, I cried- you did a great job of rendering our feelings about
our tools.
Donna Menke
PS- I was alerted to the emails in this topic by my ongoing alerts for
info on band saws- find some interesting things that way.

Ode to a Corded Drill

Of cordless drills I've got a few
'Bout five they are in number
They've chased their corded brethren out
To rusted dusty slumber


But came this morn I had a task
'Twas not within their compass
I'd fifty two inch holes to drill
This called for much more whoopass


So to their box I guilty stole
Flung up the shrieking lid
They lay inside though long denied
And in their coffin hid


Their tails were coiled 'round them tight
Their copper windings glistened
I saw they hungered for the light
Like babes just newly christened


I held one high against the sky
To read the ancient runes
'Milwaukee' read the word inscribed
Not seen for many moons


His tail was cracked and poorly patched
His body caked in grime
But 'twas a smile on his chuck
He knew it was his time


The old dog didn't ask for much
A dusting and some oil
He sighed at my familiar touch
He'd never known but toil


The shank of that great two inch bit
He took into his maw
I plugged him in and saw him grin
Those cordless watched in awe


As Old Milwaukee cut his holes
With wild electric glee
On and on with guts and brawn
So happy to be free


He never asked for quarter nay
Nor quarter was he givin'
He sang in that great light of day
Till all the holes he'd riven


And all too soon his task was done
His body warmed with labor
I laid him soft upon the bench
A moment one should savor


He'd labored well and I won't dwell
Upon his cordless brothers
Who hid their heads while he did work
T'would make them call their mothers


I won't give up my cordless drills
They've got their time and place
But so do drills with tails my friend
And so they need a space


Not locked away from light of day
In never ending darkness
But out in God's good working light
And ready for the harness


So now my ode is done my friends
I'll tell you what I've learned
Not soon again will that old drill
Have cause to feel he's spurned

Regards,

Tom Watson

tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)

http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/