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Hey chemists in the group,
I've been trying to track down some 26% ammonia for some fuming. I've tried to find it through blueprinting supply houses with no luck at all. Apparently the digital revolution is sending blueprinting the way of the dodo. I've also surfed the 'net for chemical supply house. I have found many different "flavors" but I can't figure out which flavor is appropriate and some look very scary. Can anyone post a link that would take me directly to a product page that has ammonia that is appropriate for fuming? I would be very grateful for any help on this. Paul |
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In article , Tom Banes wrote:
On 17 Aug 2006 09:51:15 -0700, wrote: Hey chemists in the group, I've been trying to track down some 26% ammonia for some fuming. SNIP I've had good luck fuming cherry and oak with the janitor grade stuff you can get at most hardware stores. It's about 8%, so it probably takes a longer and a bit more in the containers in your fuming tank than 26%, but it works. It's also a BUNCH safer. Yep. Even household ammonia from the grocery store works. It just takes longer. Bear in mind that ammonia fuming was discovered by observing what happens to white oak in livestock stalls... I'm pretty sure that horse and cow **** isn't anywhere near 26% ammonia. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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"Doug Miller" wrote in message
Bear in mind that ammonia fuming was discovered by observing what happens to white oak in livestock stalls... I'm pretty sure that horse and cow **** isn't anywhere near 26% ammonia. If you've ever cleaned horse stalls, particularly one that hasn't been cleaned in a while, you'll be ready to swear it is. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 8/13/06 |
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Thanks for all the timely replies to my question.
Wood_news, I really appreciate the link, that is exactly what I was looking for. For all who expressed concern, I will definitely be fuming outside with the appropriate mask, goggles, gloves, etc. I will do a follow up post with the results of my efforts. Paul |
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wrote: Thanks for all the timely replies to my question. Wood_news, I really appreciate the link, that is exactly what I was looking for. For all who expressed concern, I will definitely be fuming outside with the appropriate mask, goggles, gloves, etc. I will do a follow up post with the results of my efforts. Paul Actually, I did start it - I just never finished it. Here's the page: http://musial.ws/ammonia_experiment.htm The stronger ammonia darkened the wood quicker (first batch was 7 hours) but they caught up to each other after 12 hours and stayed even until 24. After 24, the household never got darker but the blueprint kept darkening until it turned black. Here's the other page for a general overview on fuming. http://musial.ws/fuming.htm |
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Try hospital supply houses, laboratory supply houses, or, if you are in a
rural setting, try to purchase some anhydrous ammonia from a farmer or farm supply wrote in message oups.com... Hey chemists in the group, I've been trying to track down some 26% ammonia for some fuming. I've tried to find it through blueprinting supply houses with no luck at all. Apparently the digital revolution is sending blueprinting the way of the dodo. I've also surfed the 'net for chemical supply house. I have found many different "flavors" but I can't figure out which flavor is appropriate and some look very scary. Can anyone post a link that would take me directly to a product page that has ammonia that is appropriate for fuming? I would be very grateful for any help on this. Paul |
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Michael P. Hunter wrote: Try hospital supply houses, laboratory supply houses, or, if you are in a rural setting, try to purchase some anhydrous ammonia from a farmer or farm supply How would you use anhydrous ammonia? It's only a liquid at very high pressure (roughly 200 PSI at 100* F). The instant it reaches normal atmospheric pressure it boils. |
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How would you use anhydrous ammonia? Easy. Put the furniture you are fuming in a sealed bag. Create an inlet and an outlet. Pipe in the NH3(g) for a few seconds to purge out most of the air and then close the inlet and outlet. The atmosphere inside the bag will be mostly NH3(g). It's only a liquid at very high pressure (roughly 200 PSI at 100* F). The instant it reaches normal atmospheric pressure it boils. It's also a liquid at -34 oC. Why do you have to have a liquid? You can also use NH3(g). -- Stoutman http://www.garagewoodworks.com |
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Stoutman wrote: How would you use anhydrous ammonia? Easy. Put the furniture you are fuming in a sealed bag. Create an inlet and an outlet. Pipe in the NH3(g) for a few seconds to purge out most of the air and then close the inlet and outlet. The atmosphere inside the bag will be mostly NH3(g). Or just use the stuff from the grocery store and don't worry about the DEA or EPA visitng you. |
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Duke of Burl wrote: Stoutman wrote: How would you use anhydrous ammonia? Easy. Put the furniture you are fuming in a sealed bag. Create an inlet and an outlet. Pipe in the NH3(g) for a few seconds to purge out most of the air and then close the inlet and outlet. The atmosphere inside the bag will be mostly NH3(g). Or just use the stuff from the grocery store and don't worry about the DEA or EPA visitng you. And these days, the ATF and FBI too! |
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