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Are you supposed to tip a freight delivery driver?
I've decided that this is on-topic for this NG since many of us order large
tools that have to be delivered freight. When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? It's never a question with the UPS guy since he is already gone before I can even answer the door, but the freight guy is a different story. This is why the whole concept of tipping sucks. |
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"James E. Cannon" wrote in message news:0l5Cg.67601$9c6.42995@dukeread11... I've decided that this is on-topic for this NG since many of us order large tools that have to be delivered freight. When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? It's never a question with the UPS guy since he is already gone before I can even answer the door, but the freight guy is a different story. This is why the whole concept of tipping sucks. I don't think so, and I would doubt that he would accept it. When I was younger I used to work at the service counter of a large computer retailer. Sometimes if people would ask nicely and had a good reason I would try and move their service ticket up. Often they would try and tip me when they picked up their PC, if I would have accepted it, and management found out, I would have been terminated... I know many service companies have similar policies. |
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I think if he's a CDL truck driver, he's making a decent salary already, so
no tip necessary. Unless, perhaps, you're wealthy. Then a tip may be in order. At least offer the guy a Coke or a bottle of water, but usually they turn refreshments down politely. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"grappletech" wrote in message ... I think if he's a CDL truck driver, he's making a decent salary already, so no tip necessary. Unless, perhaps, you're wealthy. Then a tip may be in order. At least offer the guy a Coke or a bottle of water, but usually they turn refreshments down politely. A CDL truck driver???? Just what the hell does that mean? A person that drives a school bus, limo, taxi all have to have a CDL license. Having a CDL license and driving a truck don't mean you automatically make "a decent salary". |
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Are you supposed to tip a freight delivery driver?
"Tex" wrote IMHO, it's your choice and consider tips as nothing more than wages a customer pays other peoples' help. It's your money; do as you wish. As for me, I figure they're already getting paid by somebody else to do a job. If they don't like their salary, they can bargain for a larger one or change jobs. Hard nosed? Perhaps? So be it! I can tell you never ran into a real freight man. They have the power to send your stuff to Cleveland if they want to. And do all sorts of things to hold up your business, freight, and heartbeat. I used to love running into your types. I was a Teamster, and knew 98 ways to make your **** disappear for long periods of time. Steve |
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"Steve B" wrote in message news:nGcCg.16404$RD.15886@fed1read08... "Tex" wrote IMHO, it's your choice and consider tips as nothing more than wages a customer pays other peoples' help. It's your money; do as you wish. As for me, I figure they're already getting paid by somebody else to do a job. If they don't like their salary, they can bargain for a larger one or change jobs. Hard nosed? Perhaps? So be it! I can tell you never ran into a real freight man. They have the power to send your stuff to Cleveland if they want to. And do all sorts of things to hold up your business, freight, and heartbeat. I used to love running into your types. I was a Teamster, and knew 98 ways to make your **** disappear for long periods of time. Steve AMEN and well said! Right along with your other post! Been there, done that, got the tee shirts, and an award!! |
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"Steve B" wrote in message news:nGcCg.16404$RD.15886@fed1read08... I can tell you never ran into a real freight man. They have the power to send your stuff to Cleveland if they want to. And do all sorts of things to hold up your business, freight, and heartbeat. I used to love running into your types. I was a Teamster, and knew 98 ways to make your **** disappear for long periods of time. And some people wonder why the union has such a bad reputation. Teamsters DO NOT have a monopoly on having the ability to screw a customer. Most every one and every business knows how to screw his customer, however the ones with any sense at all realize that the customer is the one that you actually want to please. |
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"Leon" wrote in message t... "Steve B" wrote in message news:nGcCg.16404$RD.15886@fed1read08... I can tell you never ran into a real freight man. They have the power to send your stuff to Cleveland if they want to. And do all sorts of things to hold up your business, freight, and heartbeat. I used to love running into your types. I was a Teamster, and knew 98 ways to make your **** disappear for long periods of time. And some people wonder why the union has such a bad reputation. Teamsters DO NOT have a monopoly on having the ability to screw a customer. Most every one and every business knows how to screw his customer, however the ones with any sense at all realize that the customer is the one that you actually want to please. I have found out some things from dealing with the public. Most people are good honest people. Most people appreciate good hard work and effort. Some people are angry at the world, and no matter what you do, they will be mad at you. Some people cannot be satisfied because of their anger. Some people just cannot be satisfied no matter what you do. Some people are dishonest and take great delight at screwing over others. You cannot please some customers. That guy that said, "The customer is always right" was full of it. Steve |
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Are you supposed to tip a freight delivery driver?
On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 05:47:34 GMT, "Leon"
wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message news:nGcCg.16404$RD.15886@fed1read08... I can tell you never ran into a real freight man. They have the power to send your stuff to Cleveland if they want to. And do all sorts of things to hold up your business, freight, and heartbeat. I used to love running into your types. I was a Teamster, and knew 98 ways to make your **** disappear for long periods of time. And some people wonder why the union has such a bad reputation. Teamsters DO NOT have a monopoly on having the ability to screw a customer. Most every one and every business knows how to screw his customer, however the ones with any sense at all realize that the customer is the one that you actually want to please. Yeah... Kinda makes me want to avoid any deliveries. Union or no, you're paid to deliver things. So do your job. Nobody wants to pay a couple hundred bucks to have something delivered so that you can walk around with a stick up your ass because you wanted more than you got. |
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Steve B wrote:
"Tex" wrote IMHO, it's your choice and consider tips as nothing more than wages a customer pays other peoples' help. It's your money; do as you wish. As for me, I figure they're already getting paid by somebody else to do a job. If they don't like their salary, they can bargain for a larger one or change jobs. Hard nosed? Perhaps? So be it! I can tell you never ran into a real freight man. They have the power to send your stuff to Cleveland if they want to. And do all sorts of things to hold up your business, freight, and heartbeat. I used to love running into your types. I was a Teamster, and knew 98 ways to make your **** disappear for long periods of time. OK, tell us _one_ way for a truck driver to "make your **** disappear for long periods of time" without having anybody ask how it got off the truck between loading and delivery. Steve -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... Steve B wrote: "Tex" wrote IMHO, it's your choice and consider tips as nothing more than wages a customer pays other peoples' help. It's your money; do as you wish. As for me, I figure they're already getting paid by somebody else to do a job. If they don't like their salary, they can bargain for a larger one or change jobs. Hard nosed? Perhaps? So be it! I can tell you never ran into a real freight man. They have the power to send your stuff to Cleveland if they want to. And do all sorts of things to hold up your business, freight, and heartbeat. I used to love running into your types. I was a Teamster, and knew 98 ways to make your **** disappear for long periods of time. OK, tell us _one_ way for a truck driver to "make your **** disappear for long periods of time" without having anybody ask how it got off the truck between loading and delivery. Steve -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) Uh, signing it off as delivered, and dropping it in the river? Marking it "refused - return to sender" and scribbling a signature? Marking "unloading dock closed" - "return to terminal"? Spilling a can of oil on it, and marking "hazardous material leaking from crate"? Need I go on? Every company has rules regarding handling and delivery. Any good freight man knows how to hurt a "customer" who is a PITA. Steve Steve |
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 20:31:28 -0700, Steve B wrote:
I can tell you never ran into a real freight man. They have the power to send your stuff to Cleveland if they want to. And do all sorts of things to hold up your business, freight, and heartbeat. I used to love running into your types. I was a Teamster, and knew 98 ways to make your **** disappear for long periods of time. Steve So Steve, did you consider this to be 'doing your job'? The way I see it, somebody already paid your employer to deliver the freight and your employer has already agreed to pay you for delivering the freight and then you stand there and DON'T DELIVER THE FREIGHT. I presently AM a Teamster and formerly was a UTU guy (Conrail ... when we lost freight we lost boxcar loads at a time!). It was my job to deliver the freight -on time and in good condition- ... AND THAT'S WHAT I DID. For my part, if the driver does much more than simply pull up and wait while I unload, then he's probably done something extra and should be slipped a couple extra skins for his effort. But if all he does is sit while I unload and then retaliates the lack of an (unearned) tip, then I'll simply specify a different common carrier with my next order. And he won't get ANY money from my next purchase. Not even his wages. Times are tough. You want the money? Do the work. Bill |
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"W Canaday" wrote in message ... On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 20:31:28 -0700, Steve B wrote: I can tell you never ran into a real freight man. They have the power to send your stuff to Cleveland if they want to. And do all sorts of things to hold up your business, freight, and heartbeat. I used to love running into your types. I was a Teamster, and knew 98 ways to make your **** disappear for long periods of time. Steve So Steve, did you consider this to be 'doing your job'? The way I see it, somebody already paid your employer to deliver the freight and your employer has already agreed to pay you for delivering the freight and then you stand there and DON'T DELIVER THE FREIGHT. Bill I agree. I was referring to deadbeats and stiffs that try to take advantage of freight handlers. Steve |
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Steve B wrote: I used to love running into your types. I was a Teamster, and knew 98 ways to make your **** disappear for long periods of time. Steve LOL.. I worked at one place, it was huge, it had about 8 different shipping docks scattered all over the "campus".. My boss was a prick. He was expecting 6 large packages. Every day, he called up our dock and gave them hell about "where's my packages?" They fixed him up good. Over the next 3 months, they slowly started to be "found" at other docks. Every one of them was damaged. I didn't help with this, and I don't condone it, but sometimes it's better not to be a jerk to people that can screw you over. |
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"bf" wrote I didn't help with this, and I don't condone it, but sometimes it's better not to be a jerk to people that can screw you over. Makes about as much sense as insulting your barber during a haircut, doesn't it? And yet, there are those who will do it. Steve |
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Are you supposed to tip a freight delivery driver?
"James E. Cannon" wrote in message news:0l5Cg.67601$9c6.42995@dukeread11... I've decided that this is on-topic for this NG since many of us order large tools that have to be delivered freight. When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? It's never a question with the UPS guy since he is already gone before I can even answer the door, but the freight guy is a different story. This is why the whole concept of tipping sucks. Not necessary as you have paid for the service. I assure you that when he delivers to a regular retail store he does not get a tip. However if you feel grateful enough, by all means tip the guy. I |
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"Leon" wrote in message
m... "James E. Cannon" wrote in message news:0l5Cg.67601$9c6.42995@dukeread11... I've decided that this is on-topic for this NG since many of us order large tools that have to be delivered freight. When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? It's never a question with the UPS guy since he is already gone before I can even answer the door, but the freight guy is a different story. This is why the whole concept of tipping sucks. Not necessary as you have paid for the service. I assure you that when he delivers to a regular retail store he does not get a tip. However if you feel grateful enough, by all means tip the guy. I I understand the difference when delivering to a business. I receive shipments via semi at work all the time (*BIG* computers) and obviously don't even consider tipping them. It just seems different when it's a home delivery since I don't have a loading dock or forklift. It's not that I felt so grateful that I "wanted" to tip (I already paid $125 for shipping), I just don't want to be seen as a cheapskate and maybe pay for it later with late/damaged shipments if I do business with the same driver again. |
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"James E. Cannon" wrote in message news:GF5Cg.67602$9c6.1565@dukeread11... I understand the difference when delivering to a business. I receive shipments via semi at work all the time (*BIG* computers) and obviously don't even consider tipping them. It just seems different when it's a home delivery since I don't have a loading dock or forklift. Even with out lift gates or fork lifts I too have received stock on a daily basis at a business. For the most part a loading dock and fork lift at a delivery location is a luxury mor most delivery drivers. It's not that I felt so grateful that I "wanted" to tip (I already paid $125 for shipping), I just don't want to be seen as a cheapskate and maybe pay for it later with late/damaged shipments if I do business with the same driver again. The driver will pay if you will receive a damaged shipment. I would not worry about it unless he went out of his way to help you out. Otherwise, he is just doing his job. |
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James E. Cannon wrote:
It's not that I felt so grateful that I "wanted" to tip (I already paid $125 for shipping), I just don't want to be seen as a cheapskate and maybe pay for it later with late/damaged shipments if I do business with the same driver again. Isn't that rather cynical? I mean really--expecting that the SAME driver is going to damage upcoming shipments to you purposely and vindictively, because you didn't pay him "protection"?? Good grief, man, that's not how it works! If you go to a restaurant and order a couple of $35+ meals for you and the missus and leave a $5 tip, THAT'S considered being a cheapskate, as anyone paying for that expensive of a meal can certainly afford a 50% tip. Dave |
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meal can certainly afford a 50% tip. Dave BIG TYPO!!! make that a 20% tip... |
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"David" wrote in message . .. James E. Cannon wrote: It's not that I felt so grateful that I "wanted" to tip (I already paid $125 for shipping), I just don't want to be seen as a cheapskate and maybe pay for it later with late/damaged shipments if I do business with the same driver again. Isn't that rather cynical? I mean really--expecting that the SAME driver is going to damage upcoming shipments to you purposely and vindictively, because you didn't pay him "protection"?? Good grief, man, that's not how it works! If you go to a restaurant and order a couple of $35+ meals for you and the missus and leave a $5 tip, THAT'S considered being a cheapskate, as anyone paying for that expensive of a meal can certainly afford a 50% tip. Dave Sorry, Dave. That's not how it works. I worked conventions in Las Vegas for a lot of years. Repeat customers. You had one yokel this year that stiffed you after going all out for them, and next year, attitude was different. The companies are limited to a $50 limit on lost/damaged freight. You could run your tines through a box when no one was looking, the exhibitor could lose many thousands of dollars in exhibits, and the culprit was never found. Or, you put an "empty" sticker on a full box, and it goes to the boneyard. Cost of retrieval, about two grand. We gave good service. We were paid well. But a stiff is a stiff when someone gets more than they pay for. Or intentionally screws you. Paybacks are a bitch. And they're so easy. Steve |
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"Steve B" writes:
"David" wrote in message ... James E. Cannon wrote: It's not that I felt so grateful that I "wanted" to tip (I already paid $125 for shipping), I just don't want to be seen as a cheapskate and maybe pay for it later with late/damaged shipments if I do business with the same driver again. Isn't that rather cynical? I mean really--expecting that the SAME driver is going to damage upcoming shipments to you purposely and vindictively, because you didn't pay him "protection"?? Good grief, man, that's not how it works! If you go to a restaurant and order a couple of $35+ meals for you and the missus and leave a $5 tip, THAT'S considered being a cheapskate, as anyone paying for that expensive of a meal can certainly afford a 50% tip. Dave Sorry, Dave. That's not how it works. I worked conventions in Las Vegas for a lot of years. Repeat customers. You had one yokel this year that stiffed you after going all out for them, and next year, attitude was different. The companies are limited to a $50 limit on lost/damaged freight. You could run your tines through a box when no one was looking, the exhibitor could lose many thousands of dollars in That's a felony. exhibits, and the culprit was never found. Or, you put an "empty" sticker on a full box, and it goes to the boneyard. Cost of retrieval, about two grand. Either one of these should get you fired, and by rights, in jail. |
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Steve B wrote:
"David" wrote in message . .. James E. Cannon wrote: It's not that I felt so grateful that I "wanted" to tip (I already paid $125 for shipping), I just don't want to be seen as a cheapskate and maybe pay for it later with late/damaged shipments if I do business with the same driver again. Isn't that rather cynical? I mean really--expecting that the SAME driver is going to damage upcoming shipments to you purposely and vindictively, because you didn't pay him "protection"?? Good grief, man, that's not how it works! If you go to a restaurant and order a couple of $35+ meals for you and the missus and leave a $5 tip, THAT'S considered being a cheapskate, as anyone paying for that expensive of a meal can certainly afford a 50% tip. Dave Sorry, Dave. That's not how it works. I worked conventions in Las Vegas for a lot of years. Repeat customers. You had one yokel this year that stiffed you after going all out for them, and next year, attitude was different. The companies are limited to a $50 limit on lost/damaged freight. You could run your tines through a box when no one was looking, the exhibitor could lose many thousands of dollars in exhibits, and the culprit was never found. Or, you put an "empty" sticker on a full box, and it goes to the boneyard. Cost of retrieval, about two grand. We gave good service. We were paid well. But a stiff is a stiff when someone gets more than they pay for. Or intentionally screws you. Paybacks are a bitch. And they're so easy. Steve Thank gawd I never had anyone like you working for me...you've got a serious attitude problem and are most likely both passive aggressive AND antisocial. Now go back to your destruction derby... Dave |
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"James E. Cannon" wrote in message news:GF5Cg.67602$9c6.1565@dukeread11... "Leon" wrote in message m... "James E. Cannon" wrote in message news:0l5Cg.67601$9c6.42995@dukeread11... I've decided that this is on-topic for this NG since many of us order large tools that have to be delivered freight. When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? It's never a question with the UPS guy since he is already gone before I can even answer the door, but the freight guy is a different story. This is why the whole concept of tipping sucks. Not necessary as you have paid for the service. I assure you that when he delivers to a regular retail store he does not get a tip. However if you feel grateful enough, by all means tip the guy. I I understand the difference when delivering to a business. I receive shipments via semi at work all the time (*BIG* computers) and obviously don't even consider tipping them. It just seems different when it's a home delivery since I don't have a loading dock or forklift. It's not that I felt so grateful that I "wanted" to tip (I already paid $125 for shipping), I just don't want to be seen as a cheapskate and maybe pay for it later with late/damaged shipments if I do business with the same driver again. And that can happen. I had some Kraftmaid cabinet delivered once. They did a good job and I tipped the guys nicely. The cabinet were damaged and they had to make a return trip. There were very nice and helpful the second trip. Darrell |
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"James E. Cannon" writes: When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? I always pick mine up at the depot. Should they tip me? |
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"DJ Delorie" wrote in message ... "James E. Cannon" writes: When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? I always pick mine up at the depot. Should they tip me? If you picking the items up at the Depot, NO. They should however give you better pricing up front if you are paying for delivery to you house pricing. |
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James E. Cannon wrote: I've decided that this is on-topic for this NG since many of us order large tools that have to be delivered freight. When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? It's never a question with the UPS guy since he is already gone before I can even answer the door, but the freight guy is a different story. This is why the whole concept of tipping sucks. My opinion...if he puts something in the garage, probably some sort of tip would be expected. I guess my rule for big-box deliveries is to tip for any service beyond what was contracted for. In other words, if it's a long-distance motor-freight delivery to a residence, and I haven't paid for a liftgate, and yet the driver shows up with one anyway, yeah, I'd tip for that. If it's a local consumer-oriented store using his delivery truck, and he obviously knows it's to a residence, well I've already paid for that in the delivery charge, so no. If, however, either driver helps me get the box where it needs to go, I'd probably tip. Even if he rolls it up the driveway into the garage, I'd probably give him a very small tip. Normally the contracts call for "curbside" delivery because their trucks could crack your driveway and they won't accept the liability. So if the driver takes it beyond the curbside, yeah, I'd probably give him something, even if it's just five bucks. |
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wrote in message oups.com... In other words, if it's a long-distance motor-freight delivery to a residence, and I haven't paid for a liftgate, and yet the driver shows up with one anyway, yeah, I'd tip for that. Wait till you get the bill from the truck line for that liftgate! Watkins Trucking delivered a crate of MDF cabinet doors I had ordered from Lakeside Moulding in Mississippi. It was freight "PREPAID." I met the driver at the rear of the truck in the street in front of my house and he lowered the crate onto my flatbed dolly using the liftgate. The bill came the next week. $57+ (fifty-something cents a pound) for the liftgate! How else would one suppose it the merchandise gets from the bed of the truck to the ground? Nest time, assuming there is a next time I just have the driver shove it out the back, then file a damage claim. -- "New Wave" Dave In Houston |
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"New Wave Dave" writes:
and he lowered the crate onto my flatbed dolly using the liftgate. The bill came the next week. $57+ (fifty-something cents a pound) for the liftgate! How else would one suppose it the merchandise gets from the bed of the truck to the ground? Nest time, assuming there is a next time I just have the driver shove it out the back, then file a damage claim. The standard in the freight industry is that the customer removes the freight from the truck unless you pay extra for a liftgate. This ain't Fedex Ground or UPS. Brian Elfert |
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"James E. Cannon" wrote in message news:0l5Cg.67601$9c6.42995@dukeread11... I've decided that this is on-topic for this NG since many of us order large tools that have to be delivered freight. When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? No, he expects nothing and is paid a decent wage. I find that most drivers are very courteous and try to give good service. Their employers expect them to do this in order to sustain business with good relations. OTOH, if the driver does something above and beyond, sure a 5 or 10 will be appreciated. If he sets it in place in your garage, a $5 bill is probably OK, If he unpacks, sets up the tools, makes test cuts, then go for $10. |
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the company I worked for paid us .50¢ above minimum wage that is common down
there were we used to live. but the again lol it's all up to the customer :-) Yeah my old bosses were cheap! lol Al "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message news:bF6Cg.4008$Pp1.557@trndny04... "James E. Cannon" wrote in message news:0l5Cg.67601$9c6.42995@dukeread11... I've decided that this is on-topic for this NG since many of us order large tools that have to be delivered freight. When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? No, he expects nothing and is paid a decent wage. I find that most drivers are very courteous and try to give good service. Their employers expect them to do this in order to sustain business with good relations. OTOH, if the driver does something above and beyond, sure a 5 or 10 will be appreciated. If he sets it in place in your garage, a $5 bill is probably OK, If he unpacks, sets up the tools, makes test cuts, then go for $10. |
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Are you supposed to tip a freight delivery driver?
IMHO It's not a requirement to tip anyone in restaurant or other, the tip
is a gratuity to show how much you appreciate what they have done. I have been on both sides here I used to deliver products to homes and businesses. I got and I have given tips, I delivered furniture for a few years and it was really appreciated. For me it depends on the amount of effort or service that the delivery person or service person puts in. I will never go back to Outback for example because they told me that I had to pay at least X amount for a tip. That's crap, if you get good service which we did not but we were going to tip some anyways then you get a good tip. It's a gratuity your saying thanks and how much you appreciate it. In effect it's all up to you. Of coarse this IMHO. opinions are like A@#wholes everyone has one! Including me :-) Al "James E. Cannon" wrote in message news:0l5Cg.67601$9c6.42995@dukeread11... I've decided that this is on-topic for this NG since many of us order large tools that have to be delivered freight. When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? It's never a question with the UPS guy since he is already gone before I can even answer the door, but the freight guy is a different story. This is why the whole concept of tipping sucks. |
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Are you supposed to tip a freight delivery driver?
James,
Read most of the 'answers' to date . . . boy, are 'we' a cynical bunch !! The definition of 'tip' - to me at least, in a restaurant environment - has been 'To Insure Promptness'. I do agree that many people EXPECT a 'tip', and even almost DEMAND it, though the service given was/is ****-poor. While I admit to being a 'Certified' cheapskate, if your ENTIRE statement is true - I would definitely offer some kind of tip.Disregarding the UPS / FedEx types . . . your 'industrial' trucker is typically a 'drive & dump' when it comes to residential deliveries. His responsibility ends when the 'liftgate' touches the street. If the person maneuvers the vehicle up to your 'off-street' garage, or uses his or your equipment to move the item from the street to your garage, he is going 'above & beyond'. For a single 'container' that I could lift or move with a handcart {say a max of about 200 lbs}I start at maybe $5.oo {TOLD you I was Cheap !!} For an entire PALLET - let your conscience be your guide and offer what YOU think it's worth. At the very least offer a cold {or hot} drink. It's up to the delivery person to refuse. Regards, Ron Magen Backyard Boatshop {PS - I worked my way through High School on the back-end of an applience delivery truck . . . learned how to carry refrigerators, on my back, up flights of stairs to narrow for the hand-truck . . . 3rd floor & above !! THEY were usually the MOST tight-fisted and taught me the REAL value of T.I.P !!} "James E. Cannon" wrote in message news:0l5Cg.67601$9c6.42995@dukeread11... I've decided that this is on-topic for this NG since many of us order large tools that have to be delivered freight. When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? It's never a question with the UPS guy since he is already gone before I can even answer the door, but the freight guy is a different story. This is why the whole concept of tipping sucks. |
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"James E. Cannon" wrote in message news:0l5Cg.67601$9c6.42995@dukeread11... I've decided that this is on-topic for this NG since many of us order large tools that have to be delivered freight. When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? It's never a question with the UPS guy since he is already gone before I can even answer the door, but the freight guy is a different story. This is why the whole concept of tipping sucks. \ IMHO, depends. For home delivery, the truck driver is NOT required to do anything but bring the package to the liftgate. It's your responsibility from there. That said, in every case when I've had a heavy delivery to my home, the driver has taken it from the truck and wheeled it up the driveway into my garage. I usually meet them with a hand truck and am prepared to schlep it around but never have I had to. In this case, I always give the driver a tip - usually $10. Business delivery? No way - that's their job and they get paid well. Just MHO, Vic |
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Are you supposed to tip a freight delivery driver?
On 2006-08-08 12:10:52 -0700, "James E. Cannon" said:
I've decided that this is on-topic for this NG since many of us order large tools that have to be delivered freight. When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? It's never a question with the UPS guy since he is already gone before I can even answer the door, but the freight guy is a different story. This is why the whole concept of tipping sucks. I've been thinking about how to respond to this post. I come at this from a little bit different angle though. I am a driver with ABF Freight systems. I drive a local route where 60% of my deliveries are residential. We have a couple of National accounts that ship woodworking tools. I don't want to bore you with facts but I'll try to give you a few. Here are the tariffs which we apply to a residential freight delivery that requires a lift-gate or fork lift. Item 758 : Lift-gate Service When ABF is required or requested to employ mechanical loading or unloading devices to accomplish pickup or delivery of freight, an additional charge of $2.95 per 100 pounds of actual weight will be assessed, but not less than $109.90 nor more than $232.35 per shipment per trailer. The charges for this service shall be paid by the party for whom the service is performed. On single line shipments, the charges may be guaranteed by the shipper. At locations where ABF does not maintain suitable equipment and elects to outsource lifting or lowering devices to accomplish pickup or delivery, additional equipment charges incurred by ABF will be collected from the party requesting this service. ABF is not obligated to perform this service where suitable equipment or operators are unavailable, nor at locations inaccessible to our vehicles, or where the safety of our vehicles or personnel is jeopardized. Item 751 : Pickup or Delivery at Private Residences Provisions of this item will apply to residential locations, including the entire premise on which a dwelling is located, including but not limited to: Â*Â*Â*Â*· private residencesÂ*€¨Â*Â*Â*Â*· apartments and dormitories€¨Â*Â*Â*Â*· rectories and parsonages Shipments picked up at, consigned to or delivered to such locations will be assessed a charge per service of $5.45 per cwt, but not less than $68.40, nor more than $213.70 per shipment, in addition to all other charges applicable to the shipment.Â* If the service is performed at a location in the zip code range of 70001 through 70499, inclusive, the above charges will apply subject to a minimum of $116.25. Item 566 : Handling Freight at Positions Not Immediately Adjacent to Vehicle When requested by the Customer, and ABF's operating conditions permit, ABF may move shipments from or to positions beyond the immediately adjacent loading or unloading positions available to carrier's vehicle. The provisions of this item include service at Shopping Malls when the actual pickup or delivery site within the mall complex is not immediately adjacent to the loading or unloading positions available to carrier's vehicle. Service under this item will be provided to floors above or below the level accessible to ABF's vehicle only when elevator or escalator service is available and labor, when necessary to operate same, is provided without cost to ABF. Charges for points other than the Borough of Manhattan, NY: Service provided under this item will be assessed a charge of $5.90 per 100 pounds, but not less than $57.70 per shipment per trailer, nor more than $695.70 per shipment per trailer. When shipments are accorded split pickup, split delivery or stopped in transit for partial loading or unloading, the minimum and maximum charges will apply to each stop separately wherever the service is performed. When I deliver to a residence, the freight bill will specify whether residence, inside, ground delivery have been paid for. My responsibility for the delivery of the freight is to the back of the trailer, if ground or inside is not specified. I have a lift-gate trailer. Not all routes do. My personal policy is that if I can back to the garage, I will get the freight of with the lift-gate and put it in their garage even if its not stated. 90% of the time this can be accomplished. Believe me, its a lot less of a hassle than arguing or calling in to have charges authorized by the shipper. you can see that at a minimum, the charges to get a large (crate, box pallet, lathe, table saw, planer,etc) would be about $236.00. Some or all might be paid for by the shipper. Now all that said......... If you have paid for any or all of these charges, or not.. You are under now obligation what so ever to tip the driver, and for most of the drivers I work with, none is expected. By the way if you think living in Northern California on $20.86 an hour is being paid well, then think again |
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Are you supposed to tip a freight delivery driver?
"James E. Cannon" wrote in message news:0l5Cg.67601$9c6.42995@dukeread11... I've decided that this is on-topic for this NG since many of us order large tools that have to be delivered freight. When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? It's never a question with the UPS guy since he is already gone before I can even answer the door, but the freight guy is a different story. This is why the whole concept of tipping sucks. I dont know if you're supposed to, but when the guy delivered my Unisaw, he did a good job and I gave him $20. I dont think he was expecting it. I personally tip the guys when they make a large delivery. It's pretty hot here in Houston and they usually work hard. It feels good to bless some one. And everyone likes to be appreciated. You never know what they may do for the next person that day. Darrell |
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"James E. Cannon" wrote in message news:0l5Cg.67601$9c6.42995@dukeread11... I've decided that this is on-topic for this NG since many of us order large tools that have to be delivered freight. When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? It's never a question with the UPS guy since he is already gone before I can even answer the door, but the freight guy is a different story. This is why the whole concept of tipping sucks. It depends. I just retired as a Teamster with 37 years in my local union. Freight rates are high. One pays dearly to have things transported from point A to point B. For that charge, some things are provided and expected. BUT ................ certain things are not. If a driver gets to a destination, and there is a load of sacks of flour, he is not expected to unload it. If there is a long waiting time, he is not expected to wait. He has a schedule to maintain, and he has to stick to it. End users are expected to provide the means or labor to unload freight. So, the short answer is .............. it depends. If all there is to delivery is to simply drop the box in your driveway (well, use the tail lift), no tip. If you want the box placed somewhere special and you want to save yourself a couple of hours, sore muscles and possible hernia, a tip is worth it. Usually any service out of the ordinary, or a really good job gets a tip. That tip mostly depends on attitude. If it is at a dock where all they do is drive up, and someone pallet jacks it off, no tip. Most drivers disdain household deliveries as they usually involve doing more than is actually required of them in the scope of their employment. In those cases, a little grease works wonders. Steve |
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"Steve B" wrote in message news:8EcCg.16403$RD.6579@fed1read08... Most drivers disdain household deliveries as they usually involve doing more than is actually required of them in the scope of their employment. These type workers are in every work place. Some are protected by the union and do just what is required. Some see that the home owner is going to work his butt off and may choose to lend assistance with a pallet jack and 3 to 5 minutes more of his time and promote good will towards his company. The driver, like it or not, union or not, is the person that is going to leave the biggest impression with the most important person, the customer. Keeping in mind that the customer has paid a premium to have the goods set on the ground a little extra effort by the driver promotes customer loyalty. Should the customer offer a tip? Yes if the driver puts out more effort than a minimal good will coutrisy jesture. Rolling the goods 20' up a drive way on a pallet jack, NO. The tip should be offered if the driver put forth a more serious effort on his part rather than if he saved the customer a lot of work. I like to call that a courtesy towards the person that helps put money in your pocket. I had a BS delivered on a lift gate truck and I paid a premium for this service. The driver sat in front of my house 10 minutes before getting out of the truck. I asked if he would be kind oenough to put the pallet in my garage 20' away. The graciousely said yes followed with the comment that it was the least he could do. I offerd a tip and he declined with hte comment that I had probably paid enough already. He got back in the truck and sat for 10 minutes more and then left. This truck driver BTY was a Katrina displaced resident of Lousiana and told me that he was very fortunate to have a job. |
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 14:10:52 -0500, "James E. Cannon"
wrote: I've decided that this is on-topic for this NG since many of us order large tools that have to be delivered freight. When a truck driver drops a pallet in your garage, is he expecting a tip? How much? What do you think? It's never a question with the UPS guy since he is already gone before I can even answer the door, but the freight guy is a different story. This is why the whole concept of tipping sucks. It depends on the driver for me. Many suppliers (i.e. Grizzly, etc) state on the website that the freight service is roadside drop. So when the driver helps me get the stuff to my shop I tip him. If he is a cranky old Basxxxx who just drops it at the roadside then I don't. And, of course, I always ask- *Do you post or D/L copyrighted material* If he says *What?*....or *No*......I tip. |
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