Peeps,

I have this 2" copper pipe that I want to cut into sections for some
decorative/restorative reasons.

Shopping at my local (yep, local) Harbor Freight store, I picked up a $12
gigantic pipe cutter.

Everyone who knows Harbor Freight, knows it's junk. Even the Chinese who
make their stuff probably have their own special word for that junk they
produce.

But my question is this: Would a quality one work just the way it supposed
to? I can feel the pipe flexing a little as I score it with the cutting
wheel, but no matter how hard I try I'm just making concentric circles
either up or down the tube.

Just wondering.

The other solution is to clamp it in my miter box and use my hacksaw. Which,
come to think of it, is a pretty good solution.

Cheerio.

Mr Curious

ng_reader wrote:
Peeps,

I have this 2" copper pipe that I want to cut into sections for some
decorative/restorative reasons.

Shopping at my local (yep, local) Harbor Freight store, I picked up a $12
gigantic pipe cutter.

Everyone who knows Harbor Freight, knows it's junk. Even the Chinese who
make their stuff probably have their own special word for that junk they
produce.

But my question is this: Would a quality one work just the way it supposed
to? I can feel the pipe flexing a little as I score it with the cutting
wheel, but no matter how hard I try I'm just making concentric circles
either up or down the tube.

Just wondering.

The other solution is to clamp it in my miter box and use my hacksaw. Which,
come to think of it, is a pretty good solution.

Cheerio.

Mr Curious




Do you have a table saw or a radial arm saw?

Bob

I'm not sure what you mean by concentric circles on the OD of the pipe, but
if you are getting spiraling cuts while attempting to use the cutter on the
pipe, try turning the tool so that the cutter wheel follows the rollers,
relative to the tool frame, not the rollers following the cutter wheel. It
can make a difference in tracking, especially depending on the amount of
wear or slop in a particular pipe or tubing cutter.

RJ

"ng_reader" wrote in message
...
Peeps,

I have this 2" copper pipe that I want to cut into sections for some
decorative/restorative reasons.

Shopping at my local (yep, local) Harbor Freight store, I picked up a $12
gigantic pipe cutter.

Everyone who knows Harbor Freight, knows it's junk. Even the Chinese who
make their stuff probably have their own special word for that junk they
produce.

But my question is this: Would a quality one work just the way it supposed
to? I can feel the pipe flexing a little as I score it with the cutting
wheel, but no matter how hard I try I'm just making concentric circles
either up or down the tube.

Just wondering.

The other solution is to clamp it in my miter box and use my hacksaw.
Which,
come to think of it, is a pretty good solution.

Cheerio.

Mr Curious

When a Ridgid brand cutter spirals on the pipe, it is a sure sign
that someone has screwed the cutter into the pipe too far and/or
too tight and sprung the frame. The cutter has been ruined.
Number 30 cutters are not cheap. For a few cuts, I would try a
saw.


(top posted for your convenience)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"ng_reader" wrote in message
...
Peeps,

I have this 2" copper pipe that I want to cut into sections for
some
decorative/restorative reasons.

Shopping at my local (yep, local) Harbor Freight store, I picked
up a $12
gigantic pipe cutter.

Everyone who knows Harbor Freight, knows it's junk. Even the
Chinese who
make their stuff probably have their own special word for that
junk they
produce.

But my question is this: Would a quality one work just the way
it supposed
to? I can feel the pipe flexing a little as I score it with the
cutting
wheel, but no matter how hard I try I'm just making concentric
circles
either up or down the tube.

Just wondering.

The other solution is to clamp it in my miter box and use my
hacksaw. Which,
come to think of it, is a pretty good solution.

Cheerio.

Mr Curious

ng_reader wrote:
Peeps,

I have this 2" copper pipe that I want to cut into sections for some
decorative/restorative reasons.

Shopping at my local (yep, local) Harbor Freight store, I picked up a $12
gigantic pipe cutter.

Everyone who knows Harbor Freight, knows it's junk. Even the Chinese who
make their stuff probably have their own special word for that junk they
produce.

But my question is this: Would a quality one work just the way it supposed
to? I can feel the pipe flexing a little as I score it with the cutting
wheel, but no matter how hard I try I'm just making concentric circles
either up or down the tube.

Just wondering.

The other solution is to clamp it in my miter box and use my hacksaw. Which,
come to think of it, is a pretty good solution.

Cheerio.

Mr Curious


Put cutter on pipe, advance feed screw till cutting wheel touches pipe
plus 1/2 turn,
Run cutter around pipe once, advance cutting wheel feed screw 1/2 turn
and run cutter around pipe in opposite direction , repeat till cut, do
not just circle around the pipe endlessly.
Dave

"ng_reader" wrote in message
...
Peeps,

I have this 2" copper pipe that I want to cut into sections for some
decorative/restorative reasons.

Shopping at my local (yep, local) Harbor Freight store, I picked up a $12
gigantic pipe cutter.

Everyone who knows Harbor Freight, knows it's junk. Even the Chinese who
make their stuff probably have their own special word for that junk they
produce.

But my question is this: Would a quality one work just the way it supposed
to? I can feel the pipe flexing a little as I score it with the cutting
wheel, but no matter how hard I try I'm just making concentric circles
either up or down the tube.

Just wondering.

The other solution is to clamp it in my miter box and use my hacksaw. Which,
come to think of it, is a pretty good solution.

Cheerio.

Mr Curious


This is Turtle.

When the roller wheels are worn out or messed up , the cutting wheel will travel
down the pipe. Bring it back to Hobar Freight place. I have a 1 to 3 inch cutter
from H.F. and it works fine. Now I only use it about 2 times a year and can use
the cheap-0 stuff on this type of tools.

Using a hack saw is not bad but use a 24 teeth blade.

TURTLE

I cut aluminum all the time on my makita or dewalt miter saws.

Any one think copper wouldn't work?

cheers
Bob

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 May 2005 16:34:47 -0400, "ng_reader"
wrote:

Peeps,

I have this 2" copper pipe that I want to cut into sections for some
decorative/restorative reasons.

Shopping at my local (yep, local) Harbor Freight store, I picked up a $12
gigantic pipe cutter.

Everyone who knows Harbor Freight, knows it's junk. Even the Chinese who
make their stuff probably have their own special word for that junk they
produce.

But my question is this: Would a quality one work just the way it
supposed
to? I can feel the pipe flexing a little as I score it with the cutting
wheel, but no matter how hard I try I'm just making concentric circles
either up or down the tube.

Just wondering.

The other solution is to clamp it in my miter box and use my hacksaw.
Which,
come to think of it, is a pretty good solution.

Cheerio.

Mr Curious



You just flushed $12 down the toilet. For double the money you could
have bought a quality tool that you could have used for the rest of
your life. Instead you got a piece of useless junk which might be
worth 25 cents at a scrap metal yard. Harbor Freight does not sell
tools, they sell expensive scrap metal and plastic garbage.


Well, I kept the receipt, so I can return it. No problem.

And as for OP, yes, I think I alluded to that. Even making a joke about it.

ng_reader wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Fri, 13 May 2005 16:34:47 -0400, "ng_reader"
wrote:


Peeps,

I have this 2" copper pipe that I want to cut into sections for some
decorative/restorative reasons.

Shopping at my local (yep, local) Harbor Freight store, I picked up a $12
gigantic pipe cutter.

Everyone who knows Harbor Freight, knows it's junk. Even the Chinese who
make their stuff probably have their own special word for that junk they
produce.

But my question is this: Would a quality one work just the way it

supposed

to? I can feel the pipe flexing a little as I score it with the cutting
wheel, but no matter how hard I try I'm just making concentric circles
either up or down the tube.

Just wondering.

The other solution is to clamp it in my miter box and use my hacksaw.

Which,

come to think of it, is a pretty good solution.

Cheerio.

Mr Curious



You just flushed $12 down the toilet. For double the money you could
have bought a quality tool that you could have used for the rest of
your life. Instead you got a piece of useless junk which might be
worth 25 cents at a scrap metal yard. Harbor Freight does not sell
tools, they sell expensive scrap metal and plastic garbage.



Well, I kept the receipt, so I can return it. No problem.

And as for OP, yes, I think I alluded to that. Even making a joke about it.



It could be that your tool is bad, or you are
simply using it wrong. Starting off without the
too exactly perpendicular to the pipe, tightening
too fast, and turning the wrong direction will
lead to bad results. But the previous writer is
just full of it and is unwilling to recognize that
everyone sells stuff made in China. Other stores
do sell the identical tool for twice the price as
HF, but it is still the same tool made by the same
manufacturer and that includes Lowes, Home Depot,
Sears and a bunch of hardware stores. If you
want high quality, you will, in general, be paying
four or more times the HF price.

"BobK207" wrote in message
ups.com...
I cut aluminum all the time on my makita or dewalt miter saws.

Any one think copper wouldn't work?

cheers
Bob

This is Turtle.

It you can cut Al. with it and come out good. Copper would even be better to use
or cut it.

TURTLE

snip
Agreed.

Not sure if you heard this or not, but there's a saying: Winning an
argument on Usenet is like winning the special olympics. Yeah, you've won,
but you're still retarded.

On Mon, 16 May 2005 12:17:17 -0400, "ng_reader"
wrote:

snip
Agreed.

Not sure if you heard this or not, but there's a saying: Winning an
argument on Usenet is like winning the special olympics. Yeah, you've won,
but you're still retarded.

Nice insult; I'm sure the mentally challenged people of the world
appreciate your demeaning of them. But just in case you're capable of
learning, here are some alternative insults that aren't derogatory of
entire classes of people: idiot, asshole, stupid, deviant, dickhead
(oh, pardon me, that demeans men, so let's remove that from our list),
birdbrain, I'm sure you get the idea.

and this post belongs on alt.home.repair because..... ?

ng_reader wrote:
snip
Agreed.

Not sure if you heard this or not, but there's a saying: Winning an
argument on Usenet is like winning the special olympics. Yeah, you've won,
but you're still retarded.


True, but the point isn't to win an argument, just
to present the other side.

KLS wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2005 12:17:17 -0400, "ng_reader"
wrote:


snip
Agreed.

Not sure if you heard this or not, but there's a saying: Winning an
argument on Usenet is like winning the special olympics. Yeah, you've won,
but you're still retarded.


Nice insult; I'm sure the mentally challenged people of the world
appreciate your demeaning of them. But just in case you're capable of
learning, here are some alternative insults that aren't derogatory of
entire classes of people: idiot, asshole, stupid, deviant, dickhead
(oh, pardon me, that demeans men, so let's remove that from our list),
birdbrain, I'm sure you get the idea.


Not an insult, just an illustration and a true
one. Apparently you can't stand the truth. Short
people are short, tall people are tall, old people
are old, and retarded people are retarded. No
matter how much you don't like it, people are not
equal and I can't hold a basketball hanging down
by one hand, and I can't and never will be able to
fire a 5 shots from a pistol in 44/100 seconds.
Reality keeps the 4 foot 5 inch guys from wasting
there life trying to perfecting their 30 perfect
football throw in the hopes of becoming a national
league football player.

On Tue, 17 May 2005 00:49:55 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
wrote:

Not an insult, just an illustration and a true
one. Apparently you can't stand the truth. Short
people are short, tall people are tall, old people
are old, and retarded people are retarded. No
matter how much you don't like it, people are not
equal and I can't hold a basketball hanging down
by one hand, and I can't and never will be able to
fire a 5 shots from a pistol in 44/100 seconds.
Reality keeps the 4 foot 5 inch guys from wasting
there life trying to perfecting their 30 perfect
football throw in the hopes of becoming a national
league football player.

I don't believe for one minute that you consider the words "short,"
"tall," and "old" to be insulting and demeaning in the same way and to
the same degree as "retarded," used in the same context and manner
that the original insulter intended. Derogatory language is not
necessarily the same thing as "the truth." Would you, for example,
feel similarly comfortable telling someone on this group who was
considering shopping at Mr. Seconds instead of a local cabinet
supplier, "Don't be such a Jew! Spend the money on better quality,"
just because it happens to be true that Jewish people frequently are
frugal money managers?

My point is that the original insulter has plenty of other choices
that do not cast aspersions on a particular, innocent group of people.

KLS wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2005 00:49:55 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
wrote:


Not an insult, just an illustration and a true
one. Apparently you can't stand the truth. Short
people are short, tall people are tall, old people
are old, and retarded people are retarded. No
matter how much you don't like it, people are not
equal and I can't hold a basketball hanging down
by one hand, and I can't and never will be able to
fire a 5 shots from a pistol in 44/100 seconds.
Reality keeps the 4 foot 5 inch guys from wasting
there life trying to perfecting their 30 perfect
football throw in the hopes of becoming a national
league football player.


I don't believe for one minute that you consider the words "short,"
"tall," and "old" to be insulting and demeaning in the same way and to
the same degree as "retarded," used in the same context and manner
that the original insulter intended. Derogatory language is not
necessarily the same thing as "the truth." Would you, for example,
feel similarly comfortable telling someone on this group who was
considering shopping at Mr. Seconds instead of a local cabinet
supplier, "Don't be such a Jew! Spend the money on better quality,"
just because it happens to be true that Jewish people frequently are
frugal money managers?

My point is that the original insulter has plenty of other choices
that do not cast aspersions on a particular, innocent group of people.


Your argument is a straw man as the OP didn't cast
aspersions on any innocent group of people. He
said special Olympics which indeed is mostly for
people with lower intelligence. Not innocent, not
guilty, just is.

On Tue, 17 May 2005 04:51:45 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
wrote:

KLS wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2005 00:49:55 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
wrote:


Not an insult, just an illustration and a true
one. Apparently you can't stand the truth. Short
people are short, tall people are tall, old people
are old, and retarded people are retarded. No
matter how much you don't like it, people are not
equal and I can't hold a basketball hanging down
by one hand, and I can't and never will be able to
fire a 5 shots from a pistol in 44/100 seconds.
Reality keeps the 4 foot 5 inch guys from wasting
there life trying to perfecting their 30 perfect
football throw in the hopes of becoming a national
league football player.


I don't believe for one minute that you consider the words "short,"
"tall," and "old" to be insulting and demeaning in the same way and to
the same degree as "retarded," used in the same context and manner
that the original insulter intended. Derogatory language is not
necessarily the same thing as "the truth." Would you, for example,
feel similarly comfortable telling someone on this group who was
considering shopping at Mr. Seconds instead of a local cabinet
supplier, "Don't be such a Jew! Spend the money on better quality,"
just because it happens to be true that Jewish people frequently are
frugal money managers?

My point is that the original insulter has plenty of other choices
that do not cast aspersions on a particular, innocent group of people.

Your argument is a straw man as the OP didn't cast
aspersions on any innocent group of people. He
said special Olympics which indeed is mostly for
people with lower intelligence. Not innocent, not
guilty, just is.

And used as an insult, the point of my objection.

"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message
...
ng_reader wrote:
snip
Agreed.

Not sure if you heard this or not, but there's a saying: Winning an
argument on Usenet is like winning the special olympics. Yeah, you've
won,
but you're still retarded.


True, but the point isn't to win an argument, just
to present the other side.

Not really sure there is a *side* to insulting. Just bad manners. As for the
"right direction", little confusing. Does that mean the wheels would hit the
spot before the cutter? (I know I ran it both ways, neither of which seemed
to work)

And as for HF, yeah, I got some quick clamps, 4 of 'em for less than $20.
That's why I went. Worked fine, just what I needed.

Since when did HF open up stores? Always?

And thanks for trying to understand my post. It takes a little higher level
intelligence here on Usenet. So kind of if you're here, maybe you already
qualify for higher level intelligence.

In article , "ng_reader" wrote:

It takes a little higher level
intelligence here on Usenet. So kind of if you're here, maybe you already
qualify for higher level intelligence.

You're new here, aintcha, kid?

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

snip


They do make American made tools. Go to
http://www.ridgid.com

You might also check the Sears Craftsman tools. They used to be
American made, but that could have changed since they merged with
K-Mart.


No, if you want to see some cheap (take that however you want) tools, go to:

http://www.harborfreight.com

I've bought crappy American tools too. Although, I would always prefer to
buy Made in USA, as would most it's citizens, I reckon.