Good hot afternoon.

102F with a heat index of 125F here in NJ today... Death Valley, eat your
grilled heart out...

I've got a customer who wants to drill longer pieces of lumber - 10' to 20'

He doesn't want to use TigerStop to automate the process because it is a bit
slow and/or the holes are in different places from log to log. He was
thinking of manually or automatically marking the logs with black paint to
show where the holes had to be drilled. Then a photo eye or something
similar would see the mark and trigger an alarm of some sort to the operator
that they are in the right location to start the automatic drill I'm selling
him.

Question... Anyone know of a product that would allow him to do something
like this? Any other ideas?

Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com

V8013-R

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"Joe AutoDrill" wrote in message
newsn6Ag.2744$sy2.1276@trndny01...
Good hot afternoon.

102F with a heat index of 125F here in NJ today... Death Valley, eat your
grilled heart out...

I've got a customer who wants to drill longer pieces of lumber - 10' to
20'

He doesn't want to use TigerStop to automate the process because it is a
bit slow and/or the holes are in different places from log to log. He was
thinking of manually or automatically marking the logs with black paint to
show where the holes had to be drilled. Then a photo eye or something
similar would see the mark and trigger an alarm of some sort to the
operator that they are in the right location to start the automatic drill
I'm selling him.

Question... Anyone know of a product that would allow him to do something
like this? Any other ideas?

Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com

V8013-R

Sorry meant alt.Machines.cnc


"Joe AutoDrill"
om wrote in message newsn6Ag.2744$sy2.1276@trndny01...
Good hot afternoon.

102F with a heat index of 125F here in NJ today... Death Valley, eat your
grilled heart out...

I've got a customer who wants to drill longer pieces of lumber - 10' to
20'

He doesn't want to use TigerStop to automate the process because it is a
bit slow and/or the holes are in different places from log to log. He was
thinking of manually or automatically marking the logs with black paint to
show where the holes had to be drilled. Then a photo eye or something
similar would see the mark and trigger an alarm of some sort to the
operator that they are in the right location to start the automatic drill
I'm selling him.

Question... Anyone know of a product that would allow him to do something
like this? Any other ideas?

Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com

V8013-R

"Joe AutoDrill" wrote in message
newsn6Ag.2744$sy2.1276@trndny01...
Good hot afternoon.

102F with a heat index of 125F here in NJ today... Death Valley, eat your
grilled heart out...


Hot?

Sounds like you are well in to Fall in Houston.

Always try Radio Shack they have a small circuit engineering book and the
components enough to get you going..... It's simple enough in most home type
environments, but in a shop with dust and dirt you'd need a blower to keep
the lenses and the work piece clean and you'll also have variations on wood
color and knots of such. As for black paint, I'd go with a black or colored
sticker (it's consistent). You'd have to shield it somewhat from ambient
light too. You could consider a barcode reader system that not only triggers
the alarm but will also identify the work order/owner/piece and could be
incorporated in your billing.


"Joe AutoDrill" wrote in message
newsn6Ag.2744$sy2.1276@trndny01...
Good hot afternoon.

102F with a heat index of 125F here in NJ today... Death Valley, eat your
grilled heart out...

I've got a customer who wants to drill longer pieces of lumber - 10' to
20'

He doesn't want to use TigerStop to automate the process because it is a
bit slow and/or the holes are in different places from log to log. He was
thinking of manually or automatically marking the logs with black paint to
show where the holes had to be drilled. Then a photo eye or something
similar would see the mark and trigger an alarm of some sort to the
operator that they are in the right location to start the automatic drill
I'm selling him.

Question... Anyone know of a product that would allow him to do something
like this? Any other ideas?

Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com

V8013-R

Are you retarded? Must be, ya poor thing! Got nothing better to do then
drool and type **** huh?


"Leon" wrote in message
m...

"Joe AutoDrill" wrote in message
newsn6Ag.2744$sy2.1276@trndny01...
Good hot afternoon.

102F with a heat index of 125F here in NJ today... Death Valley, eat
your grilled heart out...


Hot?

Sounds like you are well in to Fall in Houston.

"199.45.49.11" wrote in message
news:tOfAg.14174$c11.10945@trnddc08...
Always try Radio Shack they have a small circuit engineering book and the
components enough to get you going..... It's simple enough in most home
type environments, but in a shop with dust and dirt you'd need a blower to
keep the lenses and the work piece clean and you'll also have variations
on wood color and knots of such. As for black paint, I'd go with a black
or colored sticker (it's consistent). You'd have to shield it somewhat
from ambient light too. You could consider a barcode reader system that
not only triggers the alarm but will also identify the work
order/owner/piece and could be incorporated in your billing.


RADIO SHACK!!!!!!!!!!

Are you retarded? Must be, ya poor thing! Got nothing better to do then
drool and type **** huh?

Joe AutoDrill wrote:
Good hot afternoon.

102F with a heat index of 125F here in NJ today... Death Valley, eat your
grilled heart out...

I've got a customer who wants to drill longer pieces of lumber - 10' to 20'

He doesn't want to use TigerStop to automate the process because it is a bit
slow and/or the holes are in different places from log to log. He was
thinking of manually or automatically marking the logs with black paint to
show where the holes had to be drilled. Then a photo eye or something
similar would see the mark and trigger an alarm of some sort to the operator
that they are in the right location to start the automatic drill I'm selling
him.

Question... Anyone know of a product that would allow him to do something
like this? Any other ideas?

Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com

V8013-R

Contact a Banner representative, they are one of the better photo-eye
companies. Their diffuse sensor p-eye has an automatic teach button
built into the eye so you can teach the areas you want to sense and the
areas you don't.

http://www.baneng.com/

Plenty of ready-to-use automation technology out there but this will
get you the results you are looking for.

Hope this helps.

Michael

The Leon entity posted thusly:


"199.45.49.11" wrote in message
news:tOfAg.14174$c11.10945@trnddc08...
Always try Radio Shack they have a small circuit engineering book and the
components enough to get you going..... It's simple enough in most home
type environments, but in a shop with dust and dirt you'd need a blower to
keep the lenses and the work piece clean and you'll also have variations
on wood color and knots of such. As for black paint, I'd go with a black
or colored sticker (it's consistent). You'd have to shield it somewhat
from ambient light too. You could consider a barcode reader system that
not only triggers the alarm but will also identify the work
order/owner/piece and could be incorporated in your billing.


RADIO SHACK!!!!!!!!!!

Are you retarded? Must be, ya poor thing! Got nothing better to do then
drool and type **** huh?

Radio Shack. You have questions? We have blank stares.

"Oleg Lego" wrote in message
...
The Leon entity posted thusly:


"199.45.49.11" wrote in message
news:tOfAg.14174$c11.10945@trnddc08...
Always try Radio Shack they have a small circuit engineering book and
the
components enough to get you going..... It's simple enough in most home
type environments, but in a shop with dust and dirt you'd need a blower
to
keep the lenses and the work piece clean and you'll also have variations
on wood color and knots of such. As for black paint, I'd go with a black
or colored sticker (it's consistent). You'd have to shield it somewhat
from ambient light too. You could consider a barcode reader system that
not only triggers the alarm but will also identify the work
order/owner/piece and could be incorporated in your billing.


RADIO SHACK!!!!!!!!!!

Are you retarded? Must be, ya poor thing! Got nothing better to do then
drool and type **** huh?

Radio Shack. You have questions? We have blank stares.

They have OK solder and that is about it.

Joe AutoDrill (in on6Ag.2744$sy2.1276@trndny01) said:

| I've got a customer who wants to drill longer pieces of lumber -
| 10' to 20'
|
| He doesn't want to use TigerStop to automate the process because it
| is a bit slow and/or the holes are in different places from log to
| log. He was thinking of manually or automatically marking the logs
| with black paint to show where the holes had to be drilled. Then a
| photo eye or something similar would see the mark and trigger an
| alarm of some sort to the operator that they are in the right
| location to start the automatic drill I'm selling him.
|
| Question... Anyone know of a product that would allow him to do
| something like this? Any other ideas?

First you said lumber, then you said log - which is it?

If the material is marked automagically, then the equipment should
already know where the holes are supposed to be! Possibly you/your
customer are trying to solve the wrong problem...

If it's a log, does it need to be rotated before drilling, or are all
the holes located along a single line?

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto

First you said lumber, then you said log - which is it?

Lumber in the form of logs... Maybe. I'm taking an educated guyess based
on what I've been told. From what I understand, they are logs for a log
home with flats cut on both sides to make them lay like lumber with a rod or
some sort of holding stud between them. Not 100% sure.

If the material is marked automagically, then the equipment should
already know where the holes are supposed to be! Possibly you/your
customer are trying to solve the wrong problem...

Manual measuring and marking application. Nothing automatic on this job
except my drills and I think the saw.

If it's a log, does it need to be rotated before drilling, or are all
the holes located along a single line?

No rotation. All holes on same plane.

Big job - more like construction than actual woodworking alone.
--


Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com

V8013-R

Joe AutoDrill (in 6gJAg.981$Pp1.805@trndny04) said:

|| First you said lumber, then you said log - which is it?
|
| Lumber in the form of logs... Maybe. I'm taking an educated
| guyess based on what I've been told. From what I understand, they
| are logs for a log home with flats cut on both sides to make them
| lay like lumber with a rod or some sort of holding stud between
| them. Not 100% sure.
|
|| If the material is marked automagically, then the equipment should
|| already know where the holes are supposed to be! Possibly you/your
|| customer are trying to solve the wrong problem...
|
| Manual measuring and marking application. Nothing automatic on
| this job except my drills and I think the saw.
|
|| If it's a log, does it need to be rotated before drilling, or are
|| all the holes located along a single line?
|
| No rotation. All holes on same plane.
|
| Big job - more like construction than actual woodworking alone.

Gotcha - but I think the difference is only of scale. The earlier
Radio Shack suggestion is good if you're (even minimally)
electronically literate. If not, you're invited to e-mail me directly
to discuss specs, schedule, and budget. :-)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto

not many places where you can still buy leds and components to build
"electronic" things you see, you ignorant ****.

you still get glued to your hand jerking yourself all the time!



"Leon" wrote in message
...

"199.45.49.11" wrote in message
news:tOfAg.14174$c11.10945@trnddc08...
Always try Radio Shack they have a small circuit engineering book and the
components enough to get you going..... It's simple enough in most home
type environments, but in a shop with dust and dirt you'd need a blower
to keep the lenses and the work piece clean and you'll also have
variations on wood color and knots of such. As for black paint, I'd go
with a black or colored sticker (it's consistent). You'd have to shield
it somewhat from ambient light too. You could consider a barcode reader
system that not only triggers the alarm but will also identify the work
order/owner/piece and could be incorporated in your billing.


RADIO SHACK!!!!!!!!!!

Are you retarded? Must be, ya poor thing! Got nothing better to do then
drool and type **** huh?

yeah that's why your so feeble minded, you've been eating the solder and
lead based paint chips!


"Leon" wrote in message
m...

"Oleg Lego" wrote in message
...
The Leon entity posted thusly:


"199.45.49.11" wrote in message
news:tOfAg.14174$c11.10945@trnddc08...
Always try Radio Shack they have a small circuit engineering book and
the
components enough to get you going..... It's simple enough in most home
type environments, but in a shop with dust and dirt you'd need a blower
to
keep the lenses and the work piece clean and you'll also have
variations
on wood color and knots of such. As for black paint, I'd go with a
black
or colored sticker (it's consistent). You'd have to shield it somewhat
from ambient light too. You could consider a barcode reader system that
not only triggers the alarm but will also identify the work
order/owner/piece and could be incorporated in your billing.


RADIO SHACK!!!!!!!!!!

Are you retarded? Must be, ya poor thing! Got nothing better to do then
drool and type **** huh?

Radio Shack. You have questions? We have blank stares.

They have OK solder and that is about it.