Ridgid power tools now come with a lifetime warranty, including replacement
batteries for cordless tools, if you register your purchase on the Ridgid
website. Nonetheless, at checkout at the local Home Depot, you have the
"opportunity" to buy an extended warranty ($9.99 for a $60 orbital sander,
for example).

Waarranty extended beyond lifetime of the tool? interesting concept --

Regards -- JimR

"JimR" wrote in message
news
Ridgid power tools now come with a lifetime warranty, including
replacement batteries for cordless tools, if you register your purchase on
the Ridgid website. Nonetheless, at checkout at the local Home Depot, you
have the "opportunity" to buy an extended warranty ($9.99 for a $60
orbital sander, for example).



There is a sucker born every few seconds. Some one will buy an extended
warranty.

"Leon" wrote in
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"JimR" wrote in message
news
Ridgid power tools now come with a lifetime warranty, including
replacement batteries for cordless tools, if you register your
purchase on the Ridgid website. Nonetheless, at checkout at the
local Home Depot, you have the "opportunity" to buy an extended
warranty ($9.99 for a $60 orbital sander, for example).



There is a sucker born every few seconds. Some one will buy an
extended warranty.




Especially someone who didn't read the thing about the lifetime warranty.

One computer video card maker did offer a double lifetime warranty,
though. That is, if you bought the card and then sold it the next guy
got a life time warranty also.

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particular system can go, other times we use a stock system to remind
ourselves of what we once had.

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"Leon" wrote in message

There is a sucker born every few seconds. Some one will buy an extended
warranty.

I might just be a scam of some sore, but I can think of several reasons for
an extended warranty. One might be a guaranteed 24 hour replacement or
something like that. It would be a big improvement over sending a defective
tool in and having to wait for repair and return post and could be a
critical option for the professional needing his tools.

Another might be an option to upgrade to a newer model of tool instead of
just repair and return of the old one. How about onsite repair in case of
defect? Very handy for bigger tools. If I thought about it, I'm sure I could
think of a few more possible reasons for an extended warranty. Don't knock
it unless you know exactly what the extended warranty entails.

"Upscale" wrote in message
"Leon" wrote in message

There is a sucker born every few seconds. Some one will buy an extended
warranty.

I might just be a scam of some sore, but I can think of several reasons
for
an extended warranty. One might be a guaranteed 24 hour replacement or
something like that. It would be a big improvement over sending a
defective
tool in and having to wait for repair and return post and could be a
critical option for the professional needing his tools.

Another might be an option to upgrade to a newer model of tool instead of
just repair and return of the old one. How about onsite repair in case of
defect? Very handy for bigger tools. If I thought about it, I'm sure I
could
think of a few more possible reasons for an extended warranty. Don't knock
it unless you know exactly what the extended warranty entails.

You just have to pay close attention to what you're getting.

Under many "extended" warranties, should you have a problem while the item
is still under the "manufacturers" warranty, and should you happen to
attempt to invoke the "extended" warranty by accidentally calling the wrong
party, you will be refused and the extended warranty will no longer be valid
for that particular problem.

This happened to me a couple of years ago with a computer monitor that went
out on the 364th day of the manufacturer's warranty, a Friday, and I
inadvertently, not remembering the exact day of purchase, called the wrong
party. They did not get back to me until the next working day, at which
point both invoked the fine print and neither wanted to repair/replace it.

... well, they attempted to, and would have, had they been dealing with a
pussy.

That said, we always purchase extended warranties on appliances put in new
homes because it is often past the manufacturer's warranty when the house is
sold and the appliance put into use. I am beginning to think, that with all
the shoddy goods out there, an extended warranty ain't such a bad idea in
some cases.

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"Swingman" wrote in message

That said, we always purchase extended warranties on appliances put in new
homes because it is often past the manufacturer's warranty when the house
is
sold and the appliance put into use. I am beginning to think, that with
all
the shoddy goods out there, an extended warranty ain't such a bad idea in
some cases.

Using your mention of appliances, I frequently buy an extended warranty,
especially something has electronic circuitry ~ and what doesn't these days?
Some 30 years ago an appliance came with 3, 5, 10 and sometimes longer
warranty. These days, most come with a one year warranty. Recently, I've
been pricing an electric, broiler/convection smooth top, energy smart range
for my kitchen. $2000+ CA for it. It only comes with a one year warranty and
due to the fact that it's composed in large part of electronic circuitry,
all it takes is for one tiny component to fry and put the entire appliance
out of service.

Analogue based products lasted for years. Case in point, the electric stove
I've used for the past 17 years and the same one my mother used for 30 years
before I got my hands on it. Before they used to repair products, now they
just pop in an entirely new module. Not worth the labour to repair most
stuff these days, if it they could be repaired at all. This great electronic
information age we're in, it can be very convenient, but we're certainly
paying through the nose for that convenience.

"Swingman" wrote in message
...

You just have to pay close attention to what you're getting.

Ecaxtly. I have to be leary of the generic ones sold by the cashier at the
cash register who may or may not enen know what you are purchasing. :~)
Take Best Buy for example. I dont need an extended warranty on that CD I am
purchasing.

Snip

This happened to me a couple of years ago with a computer monitor that
went
out on the 364th day of the manufacturer's warranty, a Friday, and I
inadvertently, not remembering the exact day of purchase, called the wrong
party. They did not get back to me until the next working day, at which
point both invoked the fine print and neither wanted to repair/replace it.

... well, they attempted to, and would have, had they been dealing with a
pussy.

Was that when you put your wife on the phone to wear them down. LOL. With
all due respect for you and your wife I am only saying this because of your
comments about her and how she gets the situation handled. ;~)
For others reading this, Swingman's wife is a true "Good Luck Charm" great
to have around when trying to resolve a problem or smply to have around when
trying to find a close parking place.

That said, we always purchase extended warranties on appliances put in new
homes because it is often past the manufacturer's warranty when the house
is
sold and the appliance put into use. I am beginning to think, that with
all
the shoddy goods out there, an extended warranty ain't such a bad idea in
some cases.

I feel they are good when the repairs will cost you while still trying to
finish paying for a particular purchase like a car or in instances like you
have mentioned or.... when you need faster than normal warranty service.

"Leon" wrote in message

Was that when you put your wife on the phone to wear them down. LOL.
With
all due respect for you and your wife I am only saying this because of
your
comments about her and how she gets the situation handled. ;~)
For others reading this, Swingman's wife is a true "Good Luck Charm" great
to have around when trying to resolve a problem or smply to have around
when
trying to find a close parking place.

LOL ... no, in this particular case I held her in reserve in the event I
wasn't successful. No need to use a nuclear option when high explosives will
suffice.

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"Upscale" wrote in message
...

"Leon" wrote in message

There is a sucker born every few seconds. Some one will buy an extended
warranty.

I might just be a scam of some sore, but I can think of several reasons
for
an extended warranty. One might be a guaranteed 24 hour replacement or
something like that. It would be a big improvement over sending a
defective
tool in and having to wait for repair and return post and could be a
critical option for the professional needing his tools.

Another might be an option to upgrade to a newer model of tool instead of
just repair and return of the old one. How about onsite repair in case of
defect? Very handy for bigger tools. If I thought about it, I'm sure I
could
think of a few more possible reasons for an extended warranty. Don't knock
it unless you know exactly what the extended warranty entails.

Good points however the typical extended warranty literature is quite vague
as what it covers and the salesman will almost always tell you it will even
cover the Earth being hit by Mars. All you gotta do is call this 1-800
number and ....unfortunately you learn then what it really covers, in many
cases. Also most all of these warranties go in to effect after the
original warranty expires. But to reiterate what you said, when the
extended warranty improves upon the original warranty from day one they can
be of benefit. As an example, I bought my son a Dell laptop for college. I
went through the school links to get to the Dell site and added the 4 year
extended warranty that includes faster service and accidental breakage. The
warranty cost about $500 extra but going through the school I ended up with
$600 in discounts plus a $200 rebate. The advantage as you stated was that
when the hard drive failed the computer was up and running in less than 24
hours and we had a more direct phone number to call to get warranty
assistance with out having to wait on hold for more than 3 or 4 minutes.

In article ,
Leon wrote:
...previous quote snipped...

...snipped...
.... As an example, I bought my son a Dell laptop for college. I
went through the school links to get to the Dell site and added the 4 year
extended warranty that includes faster service and accidental breakage. The
warranty cost about $500 extra but going through the school I ended up with
$600 in discounts plus a $200 rebate. The advantage as you stated was that
when the hard drive failed the computer was up and running in less than 24
hours and we had a more direct phone number to call to get warranty
assistance with out having to wait on hold for more than 3 or 4 minutes.



For $500 you could have bought several laptop hard drives, and they
are generally even easier to install than in a desktop or tower
system. Did the extended warranty include data recovery, or just parts
& labor?



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wrote in message
when the hard drive failed the computer was up and running in less than
24
hours and we had a more direct phone number to call to get warranty
assistance with out having to wait on hold for more than 3 or 4 minutes.

For $500 you could have bought several laptop hard drives, and they
are generally even easier to install than in a desktop or tower

Not necessarily. He didn't say that it was a removable hard drive. It may
well have been an internal one. I'm not familiar with Dell as a user, but I
also suspect that their drives may be equipped with a semi-proprietary OS
that recognizes only their own hardware fully. In a case like that, some off
the shelf drive would be mostly useless. It's also possible that some OEM
drive could also void all warranty of any type.

system. Did the extended warranty include data recovery, or just parts
& labor?

I've never heard of any retail warranty that includes data recovery and most
certainly, no $500 warranty of *any type* is going to include data recovery
costs other than an OS recovery CD. If you consider that every user
experiences a hard drive crash at one time or another, Dell would have been
out of business a long time ago if they included Data recovery for the
relatively paltry sum of $500. Data recovery costs thousands of dollars in
time and labour.

wrote in message
...
For $500 you could have bought several laptop hard drives, and they
are generally even easier to install than in a desktop or tower
system. Did the extended warranty include data recovery, or just parts
& labor?

The $500 bought the better extended warranty plus it included a $200 rebate,
and 20% discount on the whole order. In addition it bumped the initial
purchase price of just the computer up to $2300 before any discounts which
qualified my purchase for an additional $200 discount for going past $2000
on the order.
Basically getting the big extended warranty got me a package deal that I was
going to spend extra money on any way. We got an 80 gig HD over the 40 gig
standard, DVD burner over the CD, wide screen display, 512 mem over 256,
Blue Tooth and the better of the 3 offered wirelesses options offered, 3
year virus protection, an Argus back pack that holds a ton of books if
wanted and the computer, an extra 50% larger lithium ion battery. XP pro, P4
processor, Centreno Technology, 4 years next business day repairs and
accidental breakage and all delivered free.

While that still may sound expensive we were able to get the computer and
all the extras delivered including tax for $1595. With out the extended 4
year contract that initially added $500, the computer would have been about
$1480 with the school discount. Pricing Compaq, HP, Fujitsu, Toshiba and
Sony, the closest competitor was HP at $1550 with a shorter extended
contract with less coverage, smaller HD, less memory, regular screen, and no
back pack.
I was going for the HP with less features and with a 3rd party warranty for
3 years with out accidental breakage until I found out about the school link
to Dell.

I used every scenario to try to get the price lower with out the 4 year
extended warranty, but when it qualified me for more discounts which got me
better features and ultimately only cost about $115 more it became a no
brainer. I went through the regular links to buy the computer from Dell and
the cost was $400 more for the exact same order. Going through the school
the total discount was $800, $400 more than not going through the school
link.

No, data recovery was included however he backs up to a flash drive and had
it all there to begin with. Reinstalling the OS and software took about 3
hours whether he did it or the technician did it. Dell walked him through
it.

"Leon" wrote in message

be of benefit. As an example, I bought my son a Dell laptop for college.
I
went through the school links to get to the Dell site and added the 4 year
extended warranty that includes faster service and accidental breakage.
The
warranty cost about $500 extra but going through the school I ended up
with
$600 in discounts plus a $200 rebate. The advantage as you stated was
that
when the hard drive failed the computer was up and running in less than 24
hours and we had a more direct phone number to call to get warranty
assistance with out having to wait on hold for more than 3 or 4 minutes.

IMO, that was a smart move. I did the same thing for my youngster's Dell
when going off to college, including the insurance for dorm room disasters.
After two and half years, so far so good.

Like most policies of any type, if you have it, you won't need it, and vice
versa.

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On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 02:22:13 GMT, "JimR" wrote:

Ridgid power tools now come with a lifetime warranty, including replacement
batteries for cordless tools, if you register your purchase on the Ridgid
website. Nonetheless, at checkout at the local Home Depot, you have the
"opportunity" to buy an extended warranty ($9.99 for a $60 orbital sander,
for example).

Waarranty extended beyond lifetime of the tool? interesting concept --

Regards -- JimR

My question is usually something like "Who's lifetime, mine or the tools?"

Mac

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On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 07:44:08 -0700, mac davis
wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 02:22:13 GMT, "JimR" wrote:

Ridgid power tools now come with a lifetime warranty, including replacement
batteries for cordless tools, if you register your purchase on the Ridgid
website. Nonetheless, at checkout at the local Home Depot, you have the
"opportunity" to buy an extended warranty ($9.99 for a $60 orbital sander,
for example).

Waarranty extended beyond lifetime of the tool? interesting concept --

Regards -- JimR

My question is usually something like "Who's lifetime, mine or the tools?"

Mac



If it's like the electronics industry, not only is it just the life of
the tool, it's only for the supported lifecycle of the tool.


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"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
...


If it's like the electronics industry, not only is it just the life of
the tool, it's only for the supported lifecycle of the tool.


To clarify what the Ridgid warranty people told me, make copies of your
receipt as the receipt is often printed on thermal heat print paper and the
receipt has to be used to prove when the tool was purchased to define which
warranty you have. She said that the original thermal heat print receipt
will not last as long as the life time warranty. She said as long as I
owned the tool with the lifetime warranty and have a receipt to prove when
it was purchased that it would be repaired at no charge.

Leon wrote:

To clarify what the Ridgid warranty people told me, make copies
of your receipt as the receipt is often printed on thermal heat
print paper and the receipt has to be used to prove when the tool
was purchased to define which warranty you have. She said that the
original thermal heat print receipt will not last as long as the life
time warranty.

Here's a tip that could be useful at Home Depot, since they sell
Rigid equipment . . .

A year or two ago, I bought a universal mitre saw stand from Home
Depot that had been their display model. I was doing this through
the contractor counter, and as I'm paying for it the guy I'm dealing
with tells me, "If you have any problems, just bring it back." He
then hands me a receipt that's printed on an 8x1/2" x 10" sheet of
paper with a laser printer. I must have looked at this reciept a
bit quizically because he then told me, "Hey, anytime you need to
buy something expensive and want to get a receipt that won't fade
on you, bring it to the contractor counter and we'll ring it up
here."

So, that might be worth doing if you don't have ready access to a
copier or scanner for the regular thermal printed recepts from Home
Depot. I've done this several times at my local store, I have no idea
though if this is a policy that's honored at all the stores.

They might do like AMD does. Anytime I get a clients (or one of my own)
system with a bad CPU less than 3 years old they replace it with the slowest
of the current processors. At times it is enough of a change to require a
new MB, but it in one case has resulted in a system that gets upgradded
every 2 and a half years at a very low cost.

My sister in law's late husband bought her a Dell witht he warranty just
before he passed away. She took a lightning strike and they replaced
everything in the box. Even sent out a tech to do it for her. (Saved her
having to haul the system 300+ miles down to me).

Sometimes companies really do honor warranties.

I'd sure like to find the outfit that does data recovery for 1500.00. Last
drive I had recovered cost me 3200.00.

I have yet to see a waranty that was voided by upgrading a drive or adding
an expansion card. I do it all the time and the day I kill a waranty will be
the day I stop, and I don't see that happening anytime soon.

dennis at onewoodturn.com
"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message If it's like the electronics industry,
not only is it just the life of
the tool, it's only for the supported lifecycle of the tool.

JimR wrote:
Ridgid power tools now come with a lifetime warranty, including
replacement batteries for cordless tools, if you register your
purchase on the Ridgid website. Nonetheless, at checkout at the
local Home Depot, you have the "opportunity" to buy an extended
warranty ($9.99 for a $60 orbital sander, for example).

Waarranty extended beyond lifetime of the tool? interesting concept

One could pay with MasterCard too...they double the seller's warranty so
you'd get *TWO* lifetimes and could pass it down to your kid.

Seriously, the MC extended warranty has save my ass at least twice with HD
drives that died just after the manufacturer's warranty period expired.

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JimR wrote:
Ridgid power tools now come with a lifetime warranty, including replacement
batteries for cordless tools, if you register your purchase on the Ridgid
website. Nonetheless, at checkout at the local Home Depot, you have the
"opportunity" to buy an extended warranty ($9.99 for a $60 orbital sander,
for example).

Waarranty extended beyond lifetime of the tool? interesting concept --


Do you suppose that if the lifetime of the tool is supposed to be 5
years,
the extended warranty would provide for repair, replacement or refund
for a tool that failed after 6?

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