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Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve


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Steve DeMars wrote:
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve


Rent a drywall lift .. .. ..
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Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve


You don't have any friends?


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Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve



Rent a drywall lift. Or, use 1 8' stepladder and 1 10' "dead man"


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Steve DeMars wrote:
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .


Rent a drywall panel lift. Probably about $50 for the day, and you
should be able to do the ceiling in a couple of hours.
http://contractorstools.com/telpanllift.html

R



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Steve DeMars wrote:
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .


Rent a drywall panel lift. Probably about $50 for the day, and you
should be able to do the ceiling in a couple of hours.
http://contractorstools.com/telpanllift.html

R


There is probably a good chance he wont find any of those around either.


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Non with any skills . . .
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"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
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Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square

drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve


You don't have any friends?




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Non with any skills . . .



How much skill do you need to stand on a ladder and hold something up?

How 'bout the wife??


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Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve


One other consideration, you will be working in a fire box.


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Located the Panel Lifts at a local rental store . . . $32.50 per day . . .
tha is cheap help . . . and probably won't complain or whine . . .

Thanks . . . I had heard of them but never have seen or used one . . .

Thanks again . . . Steve



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Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve






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Are you always such a simpleton smart ass?

What do you do so ****ing well that makes you such a genius . . . .?


Overreact much?

It was an honest question.. (meaning, you don't have any friends who can
help you?)...


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So how do I climb and stand on a ladder and screw a full sheet of plywood to
a 10' foot ceiling?
You must have never done this yourself.

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Non with any skills . . .



How much skill do you need to stand on a ladder and hold something up?

How 'bout the wife??




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You are an idiot . . . If you beleive that **** that drywall doesn't burn .
.. come work with me a few days . . I'm an insurance adjuster . . . Dry
wall only slows the spread . . . from room to room . . .


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Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square

drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve


One other consideration, you will be working in a fire box.




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So how do I climb and stand on a ladder and screw a full sheet of plywood
to
a 10' foot ceiling?
You must have never done this yourself.


My brother and I just installed Drywall in a house with 10' ceilings that we
are rehabbing. We did not use a jack (we are cheap *******s).

It's not too difficult, put a drill on your belt, each person holds an end,
climb the step ladder in unison, place the material, hold it in place with
your forearm/shoulder, and put a few screws in it. Luan is significantly
lighter than 1/2" drywall.

I admit, the wife probably wouldn't be much use.

The bigger question is, why are you being such an ass?


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You are an idiot . . . If you beleive that **** that drywall doesn't burn
.
. come work with me a few days . . I'm an insurance adjuster . . . Dry
wall only slows the spread . . . from room to room . . .


WTF is your problem????





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The big issue is why after reading my post . . . that clearly ask for
SUGGESTIONS and clearly states NO friends or hire available . . . And your
smartass answer is "don't you have any friends" Do you just assume only you
are smart enough to ask a friend . . . Your next comment drywall lift
was " he probably won't be able to find that either" That my feeble
minded friend makes you the ASS ! ! !

If you have nothing to contribute but smart ass condescending remarks, that
is what you will get back . .


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"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
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So how do I climb and stand on a ladder and screw a full sheet of

plywood
to
a 10' foot ceiling?
You must have never done this yourself.


My brother and I just installed Drywall in a house with 10' ceilings that

we
are rehabbing. We did not use a jack (we are cheap *******s).

It's not too difficult, put a drill on your belt, each person holds an

end,
climb the step ladder in unison, place the material, hold it in place with
your forearm/shoulder, and put a few screws in it. Luan is significantly
lighter than 1/2" drywall.

I admit, the wife probably wouldn't be much use.

The bigger question is, why are you being such an ass?




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Thats creative . . .
Thanks
Steve

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:20:48 -0500, "Steve DeMars"

wrote:

Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

I did a 14 by 18 drywall ceiling by myself using a 2x4 sling six feet from

the
wall. Use long 5 inch screws and suspend a 2x4 under the ceiling joist

about 2
inches. Leaving more than 4 feet between screws. Use another 2x4 to travel

from
the sling to the wall in the middle of the drywall sheet.
Standing on a sturdy workbench lift the drywall and slide it above the 2x4

sling
along the 2x4 and hopefully into the space above the drywall on the wall.
This takes planning but it is doable.
I installed 3 8 foot and 3 ten foot 1/2 inch sheets of drywall this way,

single
handed in a shop full of tools and lumber.



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The big issue is why after reading my post . . . that clearly ask for
SUGGESTIONS and clearly states NO friends or hire available . . . And your
smartass answer is "don't you have any friends" Do you just assume only
you
are smart enough to ask a friend . . .
Your next comment drywall lift
was " he probably won't be able to find that either" That my feeble
minded friend makes you the ASS ! ! !


You need help my friend, and not with hanging plywood. I was simply
conversing.

Since you said you were near where Katrina construction, I am suprised that
there are jacks to be had. It was an off the cuff comment, you must be
having a bad day.

I hope you feel better now.


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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:20:48 -0500, "Steve DeMars"
wrote:

Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .


Dead men actually about 10' 1" tall and a scaffold (milk crates and
2x10s work great but you might need something abit taller).

Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618
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Thanks

I'm really leaning toward the drywall lift . . . I have a short time span
before I return to work . . . storms are popping up everywhere & I'm an
adjuster . . .

Thanks, Steve


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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:20:48 -0500, "Steve DeMars"
wrote:

Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .


Dead men actually about 10' 1" tall and a scaffold (milk crates and
2x10s work great but you might need something abit taller).

Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618




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Condescending insults are not conversing . . . .




"Locutus" wrote in message
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"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
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The big issue is why after reading my post . . . that clearly ask for
SUGGESTIONS and clearly states NO friends or hire available . . . And

your
smartass answer is "don't you have any friends" Do you just assume only
you
are smart enough to ask a friend . . .
Your next comment drywall lift
was " he probably won't be able to find that either" That my feeble
minded friend makes you the ASS ! ! !


You need help my friend, and not with hanging plywood. I was simply
conversing.

Since you said you were near where Katrina construction, I am suprised

that
there are jacks to be had. It was an off the cuff comment, you must be
having a bad day.

I hope you feel better now.




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Typical asshole . . likes to start **** . . but then wants to act like he
meant nothing when his wormy hand is called . .
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"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
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The big issue is why after reading my post . . . that clearly ask for
SUGGESTIONS and clearly states NO friends or hire available . . . And

your
smartass answer is "don't you have any friends" Do you just assume only
you
are smart enough to ask a friend . . .
Your next comment drywall lift
was " he probably won't be able to find that either" That my feeble
minded friend makes you the ASS ! ! !


You need help my friend, and not with hanging plywood. I was simply
conversing.

Since you said you were near where Katrina construction, I am suprised

that
there are jacks to be had. It was an off the cuff comment, you must be
having a bad day.

I hope you feel better now.




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I'm not in that good of shape . . . . But I must say that is a very
creative way of getting the job done . . .




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Thats creative . . .


Thanks.
Those 3 ten footers almost killed me.
But if you are fit and your standing bench is a long enough you can do it.

Thanks
Steve

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:20:48 -0500, "Steve DeMars"


wrote:

Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling

height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square

drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this

area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding

New
Orleans . . .

I did a 14 by 18 drywall ceiling by myself using a 2x4 sling six feet

from
the
wall. Use long 5 inch screws and suspend a 2x4 under the ceiling joist

about 2
inches. Leaving more than 4 feet between screws. Use another 2x4 to

travel
from
the sling to the wall in the middle of the drywall sheet.
Standing on a sturdy workbench lift the drywall and slide it above the

2x4
sling
along the 2x4 and hopefully into the space above the drywall on the

wall.
This takes planning but it is doable.
I installed 3 8 foot and 3 ten foot 1/2 inch sheets of drywall this

way,
single
handed in a shop full of tools and lumber.





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Typical asshole . . likes to start **** . . but then wants to act like he
meant nothing when his wormy hand is called . .


Whatever dude. I'm done with you.


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The king has spoken . . . oh yes your master . . . Trekie moron . . .


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Typical asshole . . likes to start **** . . but then wants to act like

he
meant nothing when his wormy hand is called . .


Whatever dude. I'm done with you.






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The king has spoken . . . oh yes your master . . . Trekie moron . . .


So now you are going through my past posts on here and replying with
non-sensical comments?

Jeez, I apologize already.


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Apology accepted . . .

And yes I am having a horrible day . . . In the past I lined up "friends" to
help with ceiling NO SHOW ! ! ! Hired a guy, NO SHOW ! ! !

This has been going on for over a month and my permitt is expiring . . . can
not be re-newed thanks to new building codes caused by Katrina . . .

Now you see why I'm a little ticked over you first replies . .

And yes I am somewhat mentally disturbed, that is what is required to do
what I do for a living . . . we all have built in bull****/asshole
detector, so sometimes we do not appear the nicest of people when you lift
our rock and poke at us . . .

Take care,
Steve




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"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
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The king has spoken . . . oh yes your master . . . Trekie moron . . .


So now you are going through my past posts on here and replying with
non-sensical comments?

Jeez, I apologize already.




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Apology accepted . . .

And yes I am having a horrible day . . . In the past I lined up "friends"
to
help with ceiling NO SHOW ! ! ! Hired a guy, NO SHOW ! ! !

This has been going on for over a month and my permitt is expiring . . .
can
not be re-newed thanks to new building codes caused by Katrina . . .

Now you see why I'm a little ticked over you first replies . .


Np, I know what it's like to have not have people show. Everyone talks about
how bad the economy is, yet I can't ever get anyone to show up to work!


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"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
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The big issue is why after reading my post . . . that clearly ask for
SUGGESTIONS and clearly states NO friends or hire available . . . And your
smartass answer is "don't you have any friends" Do you just assume only
you
are smart enough to ask a friend . . . Your next comment drywall lift
was " he probably won't be able to find that either" That my feeble
minded friend makes you the ASS ! ! !

If you have nothing to contribute but smart ass condescending remarks,
that
is what you will get back . .



When I have to do something like this I make what I call dummies but I am
sure that there is a real name. Basically 12 foot 2x4 s cut to the correct
height, with a 4 foot "T" at the top. the "T" should be wrapped in
something soft to protect the wood. Make a bunch of them and prop up the
panels with the dummies while you screw in place.


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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:20:48 -0500, "Steve DeMars"
wrote:

Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

I did a 14 by 18 drywall ceiling by myself using a 2x4 sling six feet from
the
wall. Use long 5 inch screws and suspend a 2x4 under the ceiling joist
about 2
inches. Leaving more than 4 feet between screws. Use another 2x4 to travel
from
the sling to the wall in the middle of the drywall sheet.
Standing on a sturdy workbench lift the drywall and slide it above the 2x4
sling
along the 2x4 and hopefully into the space above the drywall on the wall.
This takes planning but it is doable.
I installed 3 8 foot and 3 ten foot 1/2 inch sheets of drywall this way,
single
handed in a shop full of tools and lumber.


Exactly what I was going to suggest, but after the argument, I'm staying
outta of it!!! I did my basement by myself with 12' 5/8" drywall.




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As those below have said... lift is best, if available.
T-shaped sticks, of whatever name, work too.
To help with the T-shaped sticks, use a cleat at the "end you're not at."
A 1 x 3, screwed to the support/joist at the edge of the last panel, but
flush with the lower surface of that panel. Makes a little 1/2" pocket for
the next sheet to go in. Slide the edge of the new sheet in the pocket,
then,
while keeping some pressure to keep it seated, walk underneath it,
pushing it up and then introducing the T-stick to hold up the loose end.
Once that's up and wedged in, you can tap the edges with a block and hammer
to line things up, add another T-stick if needed to reduce bowing, and
fasten away.
The two or three screws holding the cleat in either dig dents for
themselves,
or provide 1/8" spacing between panels, which ever you prefer.

The cleat serves to keep things relatively steady while wedging the
T-sticks,
rather than having two spindly, wobbly things holding up a sheet that's
swaying
dangerously because it's not tight against the ceiling yet. Been there,
done that,
got the t-shrit.

ASCII drawing attempt:

========|__ =====
old sheet pocket new sheet

Bet that'll look good...

When doing things like this, alone, I usually pre-dial 911 and put my
phone where I'll fall on the "send" button...

"Chip"


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Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve




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Thanks . . . as to the 1/8" spacing . . so far on my walls I have not been
spacing . . . my therory is that since the shop is not climate controlled
yet . . . with the high humidity as a norm here in Louisiana, I am assuming
when I A/C the shop, remove moisture, I will start seeing a gap anyway . . .
any thoughts on that . . .

Steve

"Chip Chester" wrote in message
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As those below have said... lift is best, if available.
T-shaped sticks, of whatever name, work too.
To help with the T-shaped sticks, use a cleat at the "end you're not at."
A 1 x 3, screwed to the support/joist at the edge of the last panel, but
flush with the lower surface of that panel. Makes a little 1/2" pocket

for
the next sheet to go in. Slide the edge of the new sheet in the pocket,
then,
while keeping some pressure to keep it seated, walk underneath it,
pushing it up and then introducing the T-stick to hold up the loose end.
Once that's up and wedged in, you can tap the edges with a block and

hammer
to line things up, add another T-stick if needed to reduce bowing, and
fasten away.
The two or three screws holding the cleat in either dig dents for
themselves,
or provide 1/8" spacing between panels, which ever you prefer.

The cleat serves to keep things relatively steady while wedging the
T-sticks,
rather than having two spindly, wobbly things holding up a sheet that's
swaying
dangerously because it's not tight against the ceiling yet. Been there,
done that,
got the t-shrit.

ASCII drawing attempt:

========|__ =====
old sheet pocket new sheet

Bet that'll look good...

When doing things like this, alone, I usually pre-dial 911 and put my
phone where I'll fall on the "send" button...

"Chip"


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Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square

drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve






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Thanks I appreciate it . . .
Steve

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:20:48 -0500, "Steve DeMars"


wrote:

Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square

drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

I did a 14 by 18 drywall ceiling by myself using a 2x4 sling six feet

from
the
wall. Use long 5 inch screws and suspend a 2x4 under the ceiling joist
about 2
inches. Leaving more than 4 feet between screws. Use another 2x4 to

travel
from
the sling to the wall in the middle of the drywall sheet.
Standing on a sturdy workbench lift the drywall and slide it above the

2x4
sling
along the 2x4 and hopefully into the space above the drywall on the

wall.
This takes planning but it is doable.
I installed 3 8 foot and 3 ten foot 1/2 inch sheets of drywall this way,
single
handed in a shop full of tools and lumber.


Exactly what I was going to suggest, but after the argument, I'm staying
outta of it!!! I did my basement by myself with 12' 5/8" drywall.




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Thanks . . . as to the 1/8" spacing . . so far on my walls I have not
been
spacing . . . my therory is that since the shop is not climate controlled
yet . . . with the high humidity as a norm here in Louisiana, I am
assuming
when I A/C the shop, remove moisture, I will start seeing a gap anyway . .
.
any thoughts on that . . .

Steve


Why not just use drywall on the ceiling? I can see some durability benefits
using ply on the walls, but not the ceiling. Is drywall still hard to come
by down there?



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It is actually more expensive than Luan . . . . Have thought of doing it,
but I think my luck may be better handling Luan. Not worried about the
lights, I'm using electronic ballast (no heat). If I were using magnetic
ballast, I would have to go with drywall or fir out with it . . .

I am still trying to get a price from a guy to install drywall . . . I think
drywall would help with the sound also . . .

Thanks
Steve


"Locutus" wrote in message
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"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
news:iLe3g.28244$_z2.9838@dukeread02...
Thanks . . . as to the 1/8" spacing . . so far on my walls I have not
been
spacing . . . my therory is that since the shop is not climate

controlled
yet . . . with the high humidity as a norm here in Louisiana, I am
assuming
when I A/C the shop, remove moisture, I will start seeing a gap anyway .

..
.
any thoughts on that . . .

Steve


Why not just use drywall on the ceiling? I can see some durability

benefits
using ply on the walls, but not the ceiling. Is drywall still hard to come
by down there?







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Well no, it's only 8 foot, but the whole point is how you and I both did it.
And yes, it was a bitch, I hurt for a week, but it had to be done and that's
the way I thought of. I was working nights, and everybody I knew that could
help worked days, so what are you going to do. And if your thinking why
5/8", it was free. I did my whole basement, ceiling and walls, and gave a
bunch of it away. Over estimate or something on a job site I was doing some
work at.

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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:49:31 GMT, "Tim Taylor" wrote:


wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:20:48 -0500, "Steve DeMars"

wrote:

Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square
drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

I did a 14 by 18 drywall ceiling by myself using a 2x4 sling six feet
from
the
wall. Use long 5 inch screws and suspend a 2x4 under the ceiling joist
about 2
inches. Leaving more than 4 feet between screws. Use another 2x4 to
travel
from
the sling to the wall in the middle of the drywall sheet.
Standing on a sturdy workbench lift the drywall and slide it above the
2x4
sling
along the 2x4 and hopefully into the space above the drywall on the
wall.
This takes planning but it is doable.
I installed 3 8 foot and 3 ten foot 1/2 inch sheets of drywall this way,
single
handed in a shop full of tools and lumber.


Exactly what I was going to suggest, but after the argument, I'm staying
outta of it!!! I did my basement by myself with 12' 5/8" drywall.


But was it a ten foot ceiling?g
Those 2 extra feet are a killer.
I'm not sure I could even lift one end of 12' 5/8 drywall.



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Steve DeMars wrote:
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve


Well, I'm in BR, and I've got some free time. My folks live on the
Northshore. That's only 11 sheets--should take no time at all. Send
me an email if you like--remove the obvious.

-Phil Crow

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All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Steve


Rent a drywall lift .. .. ..


And start calling McFeely square drive screws Robertson screws like
the real inventor of them did. I'll bet you call Phillips head
screws 'star'.

And Walmart has a sale on friends. You can get about 7 for 22$.
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