Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve

Steve DeMars wrote:
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve


Rent a drywall lift .. .. ..

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Steve


Rent a drywall lift .. .. ..

And start calling McFeely square drive screws Robertson screws like
the real inventor of them did. I'll bet you call Phillips head
screws 'star'.

And Walmart has a sale on friends. You can get about 7 for 22$.

"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
news:Aqa3g.28208$_z2.14208@dukeread02...
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve



Rent a drywall lift. Or, use 1 8' stepladder and 1 10' "dead man"

Steve DeMars wrote:
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Rent a drywall panel lift. Probably about $50 for the day, and you
should be able to do the ceiling in a couple of hours.
http://contractorstools.com/telpanllift.html

R

"RicodJour" wrote in message
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Steve DeMars wrote:
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Rent a drywall panel lift. Probably about $50 for the day, and you
should be able to do the ceiling in a couple of hours.
http://contractorstools.com/telpanllift.html

R


There is probably a good chance he wont find any of those around either.

"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
news:Aqa3g.28208$_z2.14208@dukeread02...
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve


You don't have any friends?

Non with any skills . . .
"Locutus" wrote in message
...

"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
news:Aqa3g.28208$_z2.14208@dukeread02...
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square
drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve


You don't have any friends?

"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
news:bGa3g.28209$_z2.24390@dukeread02...
Non with any skills . . .


How much skill do you need to stand on a ladder and hold something up?

How 'bout the wife??

So how do I climb and stand on a ladder and screw a full sheet of plywood to
a 10' foot ceiling?
You must have never done this yourself.

"Locutus" wrote in message
...

"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
news:bGa3g.28209$_z2.24390@dukeread02...
Non with any skills . . .


How much skill do you need to stand on a ladder and hold something up?

How 'bout the wife??

"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
news:3_a3g.28212$_z2.5558@dukeread02...
So how do I climb and stand on a ladder and screw a full sheet of plywood
to
a 10' foot ceiling?
You must have never done this yourself.


My brother and I just installed Drywall in a house with 10' ceilings that we
are rehabbing. We did not use a jack (we are cheap *******s).

It's not too difficult, put a drill on your belt, each person holds an end,
climb the step ladder in unison, place the material, hold it in place with
your forearm/shoulder, and put a few screws in it. Luan is significantly
lighter than 1/2" drywall.

I admit, the wife probably wouldn't be much use.

The bigger question is, why are you being such an ass?

Located the Panel Lifts at a local rental store . . . $32.50 per day . . .
tha is cheap help . . . and probably won't complain or whine . . .

Thanks . . . I had heard of them but never have seen or used one . . .

Thanks again . . . Steve



"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
news:Aqa3g.28208$_z2.14208@dukeread02...
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve

"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
news:Aqa3g.28208$_z2.14208@dukeread02...
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve


One other consideration, you will be working in a fire box.

You are an idiot . . . If you beleive that **** that drywall doesn't burn .
.. come work with me a few days . . I'm an insurance adjuster . . . Dry
wall only slows the spread . . . from room to room . . .


"Locutus" wrote in message
...

"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
news:Aqa3g.28208$_z2.14208@dukeread02...
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square
drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve


One other consideration, you will be working in a fire box.

"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
news:Z%a3g.28213$_z2.14650@dukeread02...
You are an idiot . . . If you beleive that **** that drywall doesn't burn
.
. come work with me a few days . . I'm an insurance adjuster . . . Dry
wall only slows the spread . . . from room to room . . .


WTF is your problem????

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:20:48 -0500, "Steve DeMars"
wrote:

Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Dead men actually about 10' 1" tall and a scaffold (milk crates and
2x10s work great but you might need something abit taller).

Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618

Thanks

I'm really leaning toward the drywall lift . . . I have a short time span
before I return to work . . . storms are popping up everywhere & I'm an
adjuster . . .

Thanks, Steve


"Markem" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:20:48 -0500, "Steve DeMars"
wrote:

Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Dead men actually about 10' 1" tall and a scaffold (milk crates and
2x10s work great but you might need something abit taller).

Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618

As those below have said... lift is best, if available.
T-shaped sticks, of whatever name, work too.
To help with the T-shaped sticks, use a cleat at the "end you're not at."
A 1 x 3, screwed to the support/joist at the edge of the last panel, but
flush with the lower surface of that panel. Makes a little 1/2" pocket for
the next sheet to go in. Slide the edge of the new sheet in the pocket,
then,
while keeping some pressure to keep it seated, walk underneath it,
pushing it up and then introducing the T-stick to hold up the loose end.
Once that's up and wedged in, you can tap the edges with a block and hammer
to line things up, add another T-stick if needed to reduce bowing, and
fasten away.
The two or three screws holding the cleat in either dig dents for
themselves,
or provide 1/8" spacing between panels, which ever you prefer.

The cleat serves to keep things relatively steady while wedging the
T-sticks,
rather than having two spindly, wobbly things holding up a sheet that's
swaying
dangerously because it's not tight against the ceiling yet. Been there,
done that,
got the t-shrit.

ASCII drawing attempt:

========|__ =====
old sheet pocket new sheet

Bet that'll look good...

When doing things like this, alone, I usually pre-dial 911 and put my
phone where I'll fall on the "send" button...

"Chip"


"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
news:Aqa3g.28208$_z2.14208@dukeread02...
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve

Thanks . . . as to the 1/8" spacing . . so far on my walls I have not been
spacing . . . my therory is that since the shop is not climate controlled
yet . . . with the high humidity as a norm here in Louisiana, I am assuming
when I A/C the shop, remove moisture, I will start seeing a gap anyway . . .
any thoughts on that . . .

Steve

"Chip Chester" wrote in message
...
As those below have said... lift is best, if available.
T-shaped sticks, of whatever name, work too.
To help with the T-shaped sticks, use a cleat at the "end you're not at."
A 1 x 3, screwed to the support/joist at the edge of the last panel, but
flush with the lower surface of that panel. Makes a little 1/2" pocket
for
the next sheet to go in. Slide the edge of the new sheet in the pocket,
then,
while keeping some pressure to keep it seated, walk underneath it,
pushing it up and then introducing the T-stick to hold up the loose end.
Once that's up and wedged in, you can tap the edges with a block and
hammer
to line things up, add another T-stick if needed to reduce bowing, and
fasten away.
The two or three screws holding the cleat in either dig dents for
themselves,
or provide 1/8" spacing between panels, which ever you prefer.

The cleat serves to keep things relatively steady while wedging the
T-sticks,
rather than having two spindly, wobbly things holding up a sheet that's
swaying
dangerously because it's not tight against the ceiling yet. Been there,
done that,
got the t-shrit.

ASCII drawing attempt:

========|__ =====
old sheet pocket new sheet

Bet that'll look good...

When doing things like this, alone, I usually pre-dial 911 and put my
phone where I'll fall on the "send" button...

"Chip"


"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
news:Aqa3g.28208$_z2.14208@dukeread02...
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square
drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve

"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
news:iLe3g.28244$_z2.9838@dukeread02...
Thanks . . . as to the 1/8" spacing . . so far on my walls I have not
been
spacing . . . my therory is that since the shop is not climate controlled
yet . . . with the high humidity as a norm here in Louisiana, I am
assuming
when I A/C the shop, remove moisture, I will start seeing a gap anyway . .
.
any thoughts on that . . .

Steve


Why not just use drywall on the ceiling? I can see some durability benefits
using ply on the walls, but not the ceiling. Is drywall still hard to come
by down there?

It is actually more expensive than Luan . . . . Have thought of doing it,
but I think my luck may be better handling Luan. Not worried about the
lights, I'm using electronic ballast (no heat). If I were using magnetic
ballast, I would have to go with drywall or fir out with it . . .

I am still trying to get a price from a guy to install drywall . . . I think
drywall would help with the sound also . . .

Thanks
Steve


"Locutus" wrote in message
...

"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
news:iLe3g.28244$_z2.9838@dukeread02...
Thanks . . . as to the 1/8" spacing . . so far on my walls I have not
been
spacing . . . my therory is that since the shop is not climate
controlled
yet . . . with the high humidity as a norm here in Louisiana, I am
assuming
when I A/C the shop, remove moisture, I will start seeing a gap anyway .
..
.
any thoughts on that . . .

Steve


Why not just use drywall on the ceiling? I can see some durability
benefits
using ply on the walls, but not the ceiling. Is drywall still hard to come
by down there?

Steve DeMars wrote:
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve

Well, I'm in BR, and I've got some free time. My folks live on the
Northshore. That's only 11 sheets--should take no time at all. Send
me an email if you like--remove the obvious.

-Phil Crow

Steve:

First, let me say thanks for using our screws! (Whether you call them Square Drive, Robertson, or ScruLox - as they were called by the original inventor's company in Canada until several years ago!)
You may wish to rethink your ceiling from a safety stadpoint. Putting wood on the wall and ceiling of a shop sounds like a great idea at first, but it creates a tinderbox from a fire safety standpoint. A better approach is to install drywall for the ceiling, then panel over it with the luan. I will be doing that very thing in my own new shop very soon (but first I need to make a set of kitchen cabinets).

HTH,
Jim Ray, President
McFeely's Square Drive Screws
www.mcfeelys.com

"Steve DeMars" wrote in message news:Aqa3g.28208$_z2.14208@dukeread02...
Need some suggestions . . . Shop size 20' X 22' with 10' ceiling height.
Need suggestions how to get 1/2" Luan up there by myself . . .

All my walls are 1/2" Luan . . Attached with 1-1/4" McFeely square drive
screws . . . Plan to use 2" on the ceiling . . .

Getting help or hiring help is not an option . . . Everyone in this area
that can swing a hammer is working on new construction or rebuilding New
Orleans . . .

Thanks in advance,
Steve

jimbo wrote:

Steve:

First, let me say thanks for using our screws! (Whether you call them
Square Drive, Robertson, or ScruLox - as they were called by the
original inventor's company in Canada until several years ago!)
You may wish to rethink your ceiling from a safety stadpoint. Putting
wood on the wall and ceiling of a shop sounds like a great idea at
first, but it creates a tinderbox from a fire safety standpoint. A
better approach is to install drywall for the ceiling, then panel over
it with the luan. I will be doing that very thing in my own new shop
very soon (but first I need to make a set of kitchen cabinets).

HTH,
Jim Ray, President
McFeely's Square Drive Screws
www.mcfeelys.com http://www.mcfeelys.com

"Steve DeMars" wrote in message
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[snip]

Jim,
We appreciate your participation in our group. Keep it up. Oh, and I
will shamelessly admit to being one of your satisfied customers.
mahalo,
jo4hn