My yellow just loves to chew on oak, only oak and nothing else! I have
aquired an old desk, well half the desk anyway, I figures I could take it
apart and salvage whats left for use in other projects. While I was cutting
away the good stuff I notice her starting to chew on one of the "bad" pieces
that I tossed on the floor. I took it away from her and threw the bone to
her. I picked up the scraps and tossed them into the burn bucket. She seemed
to be satisfied for awhile but I left to go into the house for a drink, when
I came back out she had the tail tween the legs and looking for some love. I
knew something was wrong so I looked and sure enough she had two pieces of
scrap on her bed. I thought about it for a moment then figured OK this is
the old stuff and she never chews anything good at least not in the 8 months
shes been alive. So, I am wondering is this a start of a bad habit or does
she just like the taste of the old oak? I tried to give her a piece of pine
that I had laying around, boy she turned her nose to that like it were
canned food! So, in the immortal words of good OLE BARNEY, do I "nip it in
the bud"? Or do I let it go andmake sure I stack the "good stuff" up on
high?

Searcher

Canned food? Interesting. But that part about "going into the house
for a drink" seems to be the key. Ya gotta watch 'em like a hawk while
you're drinkin'(or not). She's a dog, I gather, so let it go, and
stack the good stuff up on high. Tom, with a gin and tonic. Hic.

On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:41:16 GMT, "Searcher"
wrote:


My yellow just loves to chew on oak, only oak and nothing else!
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So, in the immortal words of good OLE BARNEY, do I "nip it in
the bud"? Or do I let it go andmake sure I stack the "good stuff" up on
high?

I guess that would depend on whether your thresholds/mouldings/kitchen
table legs/etc are made of oak I'd just be afraid of splinters in
her mouth.


-Leuf

Searcher wrote:
My yellow just loves to chew on oak, only oak and nothing else! I have
aquired an old desk, well half the desk anyway, I figures I could take it
apart and salvage whats left for use in other projects. While I was cutting
away the good stuff I notice her starting to chew on one of the "bad" pieces
that I tossed on the floor. I took it away from her and threw the bone to
her. I picked up the scraps and tossed them into the burn bucket. She seemed
Snip
My bluey cross, swipes anything that falls onto the floor.( In the shed)
He thinks that if it's on the floor it's fair game
Only a few times have I been hunting for a part or small piece of timber
and found that the little bugger has knocked it off.
In the winter he'll run from the house to shed again and again carrying
pieces of scrap up to the house for the fire.
The only problem is if you don't take them of him at the house end he'll
find a favourite piece and chew it to bits. A real ******* to get out of
the carpet
regards
John

Oak = real tough leather chews -- due to tannin?

"Searcher" wrote in message
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My yellow just loves to chew on oak, only oak and nothing else!

(snip)

Leuf wrote:

I'd just be afraid of splinters in
her mouth.

Me too. The vet told me to keep my Shepherd from eating wood of any
type as a splinter can get caught in the windpipe, and that as they
say, will be that.

However, in the 14 years I had that dog, he loved nothing better than a
nice piece of yellow pine 2X2. He chomped away until it hurt his teeth
to much to do it, which was until about a year before I put him down.

Robert

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Me too. The vet told me to keep my Shepherd from eating wood of any
type as a splinter can get caught in the windpipe, and that as they
say, will be that.

Better wood than my cat who loves to chew on wires. Haven't been able to
wean her off of them, (at least not so far) so I've gotten into the habit of
occasionally tossing one of her favourite wires to play with ~ a coiled
telephone handset wire. On the mornings when she doesn't wake me up with her
mewing at my bedroom door, I often come out of my room sniffing the air for
cooked cat hair.

"Searcher" wrote in message
news:03sNf.2622$SJ2.1390@trndny01...

My yellow just loves to chew on oak, only oak and nothing else! I have
aquired an old desk, well half the desk anyway, I figures I could take it
apart and salvage whats left for use in other projects. While I was
cutting away the good stuff I notice her starting to chew on one of the
"bad" pieces that I tossed on the floor. I took it away from her and threw
the bone to her. I picked up the scraps and tossed them into the burn
bucket. She seemed to be satisfied for awhile but I left to go into the
house for a drink, when I came back out she had the tail tween the legs
and looking for some love. I knew something was wrong so I looked and sure
enough she had two pieces of scrap on her bed. I thought about it for a
moment then figured OK this is the old stuff and she never chews anything
good at least not in the 8 months shes been alive. So, I am wondering is
this a start of a bad habit or does she just like the taste of the old
oak? I tried to give her a piece of pine that I had laying around, boy she
turned her nose to that like it were canned food! So, in the immortal
words of good OLE BARNEY, do I "nip it in the bud"? Or do I let it go
andmake sure I stack the "good stuff" up on high?

Searcher

Nip it, Nip it, Nip it!

"Upscale" wrote in message
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Me too. The vet told me to keep my Shepherd from eating wood of any
type as a splinter can get caught in the windpipe, and that as they
say, will be that.

Better wood than my cat who loves to chew on wires. Haven't been able to
wean her off of them, (at least not so far) so I've gotten into the habit
of
occasionally tossing one of her favourite wires to play with ~ a coiled
telephone handset wire. On the mornings when she doesn't wake me up with
her
mewing at my bedroom door, I often come out of my room sniffing the air
for
cooked cat hair.


I worked with a guy who lost two cats to electricity. He thought that his
neighbor poisoned them and had autopsies done only to find out that they had
chewed through a cord. The cost of the autopsy was unbelievable.

My yellow just loves to chew on oak, only oak and nothing else!

A few thoughts. I have been lurking in here for a while, as I am just
getting into woodworking, but I have some good experience on this
topic.

I would guess that your yellow is like mine and is a mouth dog - no
taste = no interest. And what the dog is after is not only the texture
of the oak, but all of the tannins, since you said she isn't interested
in non-tannic woods like Pine. The tannins are giving alot of flavor
the dog probably likes.

I would say there is no harm in it, EXCEPT, at this age you will need
to be very strict on how the pup gets the wood. If she picks up the
wood herself, she thinks anything is fair game, scrap or nearly
finished coffee table. You need to put the scraps for her in a certain
bin, and personally take them out and give them to her.

My wife, who is a vet, would say hell no!! Shard in a small dog,
doesn't show very well in X-ray, exploratory surgery to extract it, at
least $1000. So if you are going to allow little yellow to chew, I
would be darned sure to pay attention to her, and at the first sign of
any real splintering, take that peice away from her.

Just my .02 .... I guess more like .55

Mitch

Upscale wrote:
wrote in message

Me too. The vet told me to keep my Shepherd from eating wood of any
type as a splinter can get caught in the windpipe, and that as they
say, will be that.

Better wood than my cat who loves to chew on wires. Haven't been able to
wean her off of them, (at least not so far) so I've gotten into the habit of
occasionally tossing one of her favourite wires to play with ~ a coiled
telephone handset wire. On the mornings when she doesn't wake me up with her
mewing at my bedroom door, I often come out of my room sniffing the air for
cooked cat hair.

Rabitts (who are more closely related to cats than to rodents, BTW)
are notoriously fond of chewing on electrical cords. If you ask at
a pet store they may have something you can put on the cord
to discourage that.

My cat was fond of swallowing string. She came up to me once with
about 4 inches of string hanging out of her mouth. I pulled and pulled
and about two feet came out. She was a bit upset about the last 6
inches.

Then there was the time she passed a shoelace. Those weren't link
sausages.

--

FF

"Upscale" wrote in message
...
wrote in message

Better wood than my cat who loves to chew on wires. Haven't been able to
wean her off of them, (at least not so far) so I've gotten into the habit
of
occasionally tossing one of her favourite wires to play with ~ a coiled
telephone handset wire. On the mornings when she doesn't wake me up with
her
mewing at my bedroom door, I often come out of my room sniffing the air
for
cooked cat hair.



Geez, sounds like a push stick waiting to happen. ;~)

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oups.com...

Then there was the time she passed a shoelace. Those weren't link
sausages.


I hoping you knew that before performing the "Taste" for verification. '~)

"Searcher" wrote in message
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I thought about the splinters too, I don't like the idea of her getting
into trouble, since we have become quite fond of her. Shes a great shop dog
always causing me to stop what I am doing to play with her, I never really
get anything accomplished. I think I will just cover the burn barrel and
give her more tasty things to chew on. She does love real bones, I
discovered that to her the fun is not getting all the marrow out but in how
long it takes to get it out. I bought her a good sized bone and she was
busy working it over. I had a 22oz hammer in my hand and had this idea,
well she sucked down the marrrow and walked away looking somewhat
disapointed..
So, I will let her have at it on her own for the next one.

Well beware of bones also.. They too will splinter and can cause severe
damage. I remember taking our Weimer to the vet in the middle of the night
to have her mouth stitched back up. The vet said were lucky that the she
had not swallowed the bone. After getting the emergency treatment bill I
did not feel so lucky.
Chew toys are better.

When I was a teenager, I used to go to a lot of church retreats, youth
conferences, and whatnot. To pass the time, I used to whittle; chains,
ball-in-cages, etc. out of 1" and 3/4" square cedar and mahogany stock.
One evening I was talking to a counseler who stoped by while I was
whittling. He picked up a piece of cedar and asked about what king of wood
it was. Next time I looked up, he had chewed up about 5" beyond use. His
reply was one of those "Oh, were you using that?" replies.

My Old Fat White Cat (his name) liked to eat rubber bands. They came out
O-O-O-O-O-O (use uout imagination).

wrote:

Then there was the time she passed a shoelace. Those weren't link
sausages.

Did she run rampant through the house trying to escape her "pursuers"?

I hate that.

er
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Upscale wrote:
wrote in message
Me too. The vet told me to keep my Shepherd from eating wood of any
type as a splinter can get caught in the windpipe, and that as they
say, will be that.

Better wood than my cat who loves to chew on wires. Haven't been able to
wean her off of them, (at least not so far) so I've gotten into the habit of
occasionally tossing one of her favourite wires to play with ~ a coiled
telephone handset wire. On the mornings when she doesn't wake me up with her
mewing at my bedroom door, I often come out of my room sniffing the air for
cooked cat hair.


Paint the wires cables and cords the cat has access to, pretty much any
wire in the house, with a mixture of hot sauce and cayenne pepper, or
anything hotter if you have it. Let this dry on the wires, cables and
cords and most cats and dogs will stop chewing after a small taste.
Joe

Leon wrote:
"Searcher" wrote in message
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I thought about the splinters too ...
So, I will let her have at it on her own for the next one.

Well beware of bones also.. They too will splinter and can cause severe
damage. I remember taking our Weimer to the vet in the middle of the night
to have her mouth stitched back up. The vet said were lucky that the she
had not swallowed the bone. After getting the emergency treatment bill I
did not feel so lucky.
Chew toys are better.

Beware of nylabone (Tm) chew toys, e.g. the plastic ones. They are
indigestible and the dog may swallow big chunks with rough edges
that are too big to pass through the intestine and wear holes in the
stomache. Even bone will be slowly softened and broken down by
the stomache acid but nylabone chunks are there unless the dog
can ralph them back up (in which case he'll probably swallow them
again, or they are surgically removed.

My understanding has always been that hard bones like beef bones
are OK, the dog wears those down but soft bones like pork bones
and especially poultry will splinter and cause serious problems like
you encounter, worse if they are sswallowed.

OTOH, I knew a famer who always gave his chicken bones to
his dogs, their life expectancy seemed to be the same as
pretty much anybody else's. I still think the risk is real but
I don't rush my dog to the vet if she finds a chicken bone some
jerk threw down by the sidewalk. I DO take it away from her
if I can get to it quick enough.

--

FF

Be careful about allowing your dog to chew on wood, bones, or anything
that can get stuck in them.

One day, I came home from work at lunchtime to check on my two dogs.
One of them was making funny faces at me that I had never seen before.
After much patting and checking, I finally discovered why:

She had been chewing on a stick and bit down hard on it. The left half
fell off to the left... the right half fell off to the right... and the
middle half was stuck between her upper teeth!

Luckily, nothing was caught in her throat.

wrote:

OTOH, I knew a famer who always gave his chicken bones to
his dogs, their life expectancy seemed to be the same as
pretty much anybody else's. I still think the risk is real but
I don't rush my dog to the vet if she finds a chicken bone some
jerk threw down by the sidewalk. I DO take it away from her
if I can get to it quick enough.

Were that farmer's chicken bones cooked, or raw? I have heard that it
is the cooked bones that present a danger, but that raw bones are
digested easily. I don't know if it's true, but it makes sense.

er
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"Enoch Root" wrote in message

Were that farmer's chicken bones cooked, or raw? I have heard that it
is the cooked bones that present a danger, but that raw bones are
digested easily. I don't know if it's true, but it makes sense.

I'd figure it was the other way around, but if it's true, my guess would be
that raw bones splinter differently than cooked ones.

Upscale wrote:
"Enoch Root" wrote in message

Were that farmer's chicken bones cooked, or raw? I have heard that it
is the cooked bones that present a danger, but that raw bones are
digested easily. I don't know if it's true, but it makes sense.

I'd figure it was the other way around, but if it's true, my guess would be
that raw bones splinter differently than cooked ones.

Cooked.. He'd eat the chicken and toss the bones to his dogs. Scared
the crap out of me, and when I brought up the issue of punctured
intestines, he scoffed.

Since his dogs lived I guess that while it may be an unsafe practice
it isn't certain death either. Sort of like not using a splitter on
your
tablesaw. There was a time when tablesaws didn't have splitters
and people didn't get kickback on every ripping cut.

--

FF

Upscale wrote:
"Enoch Root" wrote in message

Were that farmer's chicken bones cooked, or raw? I have heard that it
is the cooked bones that present a danger, but that raw bones are
digested easily. I don't know if it's true, but it makes sense.


I'd figure it was the other way around, but if it's true, my guess would be
that raw bones splinter differently than cooked ones.

I was thinking of what the dog's family's been doing since everyone was
a neander... they and their wild cousins have been chewing up the bones
of smaller animals and breaking up and chewing the bones of larger
animals for a long time, without cooking them.

And that it was an "essential skill".

er
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Enoch Root wrote:
...
I was thinking of what the dog's family's been doing since everyone was
a neander... they and their wild cousins have been chewing up the bones
of smaller animals and breaking up and chewing the bones of larger
animals for a long time, without cooking them.

And that it was an "essential skill".


I commented once to my father that I had heard that dogs
have trouble digesting pork. He asked "How do you think
dogs survived befor people started feeding them?"

OTOH, I would expect that more razorbacks eat dogs than
vice-versa.

--

FF

wrote:
Enoch Root wrote:

...
I was thinking of what the dog's family's been doing since everyone was
a neander... they and their wild cousins have been chewing up the bones
of smaller animals and breaking up and chewing the bones of larger
animals for a long time, without cooking them.

And that it was an "essential skill".



I commented once to my father that I had heard that dogs
have trouble digesting pork. He asked "How do you think
dogs survived befor people started feeding them?"

OTOH, I would expect that more razorbacks eat dogs than
vice-versa.

When I was wee, we hunted feral pigs in NorCal. They were scary enough,
but I've always wondered what sort of beast a Razorback is.

Once in Germany I had a closeup look at a european wild pig
(wildschwein). Young or fully grown, I would NOT want to run into one
of those in the woods with anything less than a bazooka.

er
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On 2 Mar 2006 07:29:59 -0800, wrote:

My cat was fond of swallowing string. She came up to me once with
about 4 inches of string hanging out of her mouth. I pulled and pulled
and about two feet came out. She was a bit upset about the last 6
inches.

Then there was the time she passed a shoelace. Those weren't link
sausages.

--

FF


This is a very dangerous situation, as if the string has gone far in
enough, and you try to pull it out, it can severely injure or kill the
cat. The next time, you should take the cat to the vet if you see that
she has eaten string, especially if it's gone all the way through.
Sounds like an urban legend, but it does happen.

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My Old Fat White Cat (his name) liked to eat rubber bands. They came out
O-O-O-O-O-O (use uout imagination).

Ever have a cat eat Christmas tree tinsel?

Barry