Reading the Yeeee-Hah!!! thread, it got to wondering how my high school
woodworking experience might differ from others. My impression was that our
projects were relatively small compared to other schools, possibly due to
overcrowding. We had "Industrial Arts" from grade 7 to 9, age 12 to 14.
But anyway, two questions come to mind:

What did you make?
What did your teacher make while you were occupied?

I got to make
- candle holders (three pieces of wood, two holes)
- lamp, styled like an old water pump
- model rocket nose cones (our own individual design)
- adjustable record rack (our own collective design)
(That's it? Less than I thought after three years! Last year was wasted in
a metal shop with a new teacher in a new school. Can't remember even
lifting a single tool. Sigh.)

My teacher was making some double-helix carved lampstands. Very inspiring.

Maybe you can give me some age-appropriate ideas that my own children will
like to try. So far my 13 year old has had NO formal shop instruction at
school. But that's a separate thread.

- Owen -

I had woodshop in Junior High. Constructed two end tables and one napkin
holder. Instructor built a bed in his spare time. We were only allowed to
operate the Delta 24" scroll saw. Instructor milled stock to size and cut
dados. This was in the late 40's. Jim
"Owen Lawrence" wrote in message
...
Reading the Yeeee-Hah!!! thread, it got to wondering how my high school
woodworking experience might differ from others. My impression was that
our
projects were relatively small compared to other schools, possibly due to
overcrowding. We had "Industrial Arts" from grade 7 to 9, age 12 to 14.
But anyway, two questions come to mind:

What did you make?
What did your teacher make while you were occupied?

I got to make
- candle holders (three pieces of wood, two holes)
- lamp, styled like an old water pump
- model rocket nose cones (our own individual design)
- adjustable record rack (our own collective design)
(That's it? Less than I thought after three years! Last year was wasted
in
a metal shop with a new teacher in a new school. Can't remember even
lifting a single tool. Sigh.)

My teacher was making some double-helix carved lampstands. Very
inspiring.

Maybe you can give me some age-appropriate ideas that my own children will
like to try. So far my 13 year old has had NO formal shop instruction at
school. But that's a separate thread.

- Owen -

I made a small, 8 inch tall jewelry box fashioned after an upright piano,
with a drawer in the knee area, keyboard, and a lift-off top, lined with
felt. I won the coveted Golden Hammer Award, for outstanding student in
carpentry, two years running. That was 36 years ago, and I'm looking at both
on a nearby shelf right now. We built the first separate classroom on campus
in this area that was not done by the county staff. Design was done in the
drafting class, carpentry by the woodworking class, and wiring by the
electrical class. I was fortunate enough to be in all three. The local area
high schools here now build a house on the school grounds each year as a
student project. It is then auctioned off to pay for the next one, and
someone gets a house for a reasonable price. My son helped build two of them
during high school. He is now an electronics engineering student in college.
Go figure. Then again, I'm not a carpenter, either. G

RJ

"Jim L." wrote in message
. ..
I had woodshop in Junior High. Constructed two end tables and one napkin
holder. Instructor built a bed in his spare time. We were only allowed to
operate the Delta 24" scroll saw. Instructor milled stock to size and cut
dados. This was in the late 40's. Jim
"Owen Lawrence" wrote in message
...
Reading the Yeeee-Hah!!! thread, it got to wondering how my high school
woodworking experience might differ from others. My impression was that
our
projects were relatively small compared to other schools, possibly due to
overcrowding. We had "Industrial Arts" from grade 7 to 9, age 12 to 14.
But anyway, two questions come to mind:

What did you make?
What did your teacher make while you were occupied?

I got to make
- candle holders (three pieces of wood, two holes)
- lamp, styled like an old water pump
- model rocket nose cones (our own individual design)
- adjustable record rack (our own collective design)
(That's it? Less than I thought after three years! Last year was wasted
in
a metal shop with a new teacher in a new school. Can't remember even
lifting a single tool. Sigh.)

My teacher was making some double-helix carved lampstands. Very
inspiring.

Maybe you can give me some age-appropriate ideas that my own children
will
like to try. So far my 13 year old has had NO formal shop instruction at
school. But that's a separate thread.

- Owen -

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 09:36:43 -0500, "Owen Lawrence"
wrote:

Reading the Yeeee-Hah!!! thread, it got to wondering how my high school
woodworking experience might differ from others. My impression was that our
projects were relatively small compared to other schools, possibly due to
overcrowding.

==============
I am now in my 60's and never took woodshop in High School BUT I was
lucky enough to take woodshop in Junior High... (Grades 7 8 & 9)

The only thing I remember is some dumb kid ahaking the "can" of glue
and dumping it on his own head...

However I did make my Mother a cutting board ...and she used it
reliously over the years ...when she died I got it back and it now is
"framed" and hung in my wives kitchen... (lol)... I can not cook worth
a damn ..unfortunately I learned to hit a baseball in my youth I
should have learned how to cook)

Anyway I do have to thank you for bring back some memories of my
mother... and I had a good laugh remembering the look on that kids
face after he dumped that glue on his head....

Bob Griffiths

What did you make?
What did your teacher make while you were occupied?


I made nothing. No shop in our school. Probably because it was before the
iron age and the only tools we had was a rock.

My son made a box with a hinged lid. My grandson made a shelf with a curved
pack and angle brackets. It is hanging in the downstairs hallway.

I took a four day course at a Woodcraft store and we made a CD shelf. It is
a fairly simple design, but you had to:
Select the wood
joint
plane
layout
cut curves on the bandsaw
scrape and sand
round over edges
cut a tenon
cut a dado
fit everything with handplane and chisels
drill and dowel one shelf

Ten people to a class and we learned basics of wood movement, sharpening
tools, story sticks, safety, saw demos of tool use, etc. Instructor (or his
assistant) did all the setups. Finishing was not done in class but some
time was spent discussing various finishes.

I would think most high school students would be interesting in having a CD
shelf or similar item. this was about 30 hours of class time but could be
done in more or less depending on what the kids already know.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
news


What did you make?
What did your teacher make while you were occupied?


I took a four day course at a Woodcraft store and we made a CD shelf. It
is
a fairly simple design, but you had to:
Select the wood
joint
plane
layout
cut curves on the bandsaw
scrape and sand
round over edges
cut a tenon
cut a dado
fit everything with handplane and chisels
drill and dowel one shelf

Ten people to a class and we learned basics of wood movement, sharpening
tools, story sticks, safety, saw demos of tool use, etc. Instructor (or
his
assistant) did all the setups. Finishing was not done in class but some
time was spent discussing various finishes.

I would think most high school students would be interesting in having a
CD
shelf or similar item. this was about 30 hours of class time but could be
done in more or less depending on what the kids already know.



Yep. The first semester was tools and material, culminating in a box, a
bracket shelf and a spice rack, which I considered a reasonable analog of
most furniture. Those who cared made box-jointed drawers, those who didn't
made dadoed shelves.

HS made pretty much what they cared to, ranging from Armoire to Futon to -
spice racks and chessboards. Grades included "degree of complexity" points.

I made time to help the kids. Some of them made time to help me keep the
machines in repair and help in the little kid classes.

The high school I went to had 2 carpentry classes. One was for
woodworking (grades 10&12) and the other was more for home building
(11&12).

Some projects I got to make in the woodworking shop we

3 drawer jewlery box
6 in high step stool
Router table
Some clocks
And we did somethings for the school itself

In the Home building shop:

We got to build a scaled down (but almost full scale) model of a
house. Get this it was big enough to fit in the shop.

And in my 12th grade year we contacted by a local fire company and
built a Fire Saftey House. They could take to local elementry schools.
That was probably my best project I ever worked on.

Bill

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 09:36:43 -0500, "Owen Lawrence"
wrote:

Reading the Yeeee-Hah!!! thread, it got to wondering how my high school
woodworking experience might differ from others. My impression was that our
projects were relatively small compared to other schools, possibly due to
overcrowding. We had "Industrial Arts" from grade 7 to 9, age 12 to 14.
But anyway, two questions come to mind:

What did you make?
What did your teacher make while you were occupied?

I got to make
- candle holders (three pieces of wood, two holes)
- lamp, styled like an old water pump
- model rocket nose cones (our own individual design)
- adjustable record rack (our own collective design)
(That's it? Less than I thought after three years! Last year was wasted in
a metal shop with a new teacher in a new school. Can't remember even
lifting a single tool. Sigh.)

My teacher was making some double-helix carved lampstands. Very inspiring.

Maybe you can give me some age-appropriate ideas that my own children will
like to try. So far my 13 year old has had NO formal shop instruction at
school. But that's a separate thread.

- Owen -

Sun, Feb 20, 2005, 9:36am (Owen=A0Lawrence) claims:
snip We had "Industrial Arts" from grade 7 to 9, age 12 to 14. snip

We had SHOP, period. None of this pansy "industrial arts" stuff.
Tood shop from grade 4, it was mandatory, up thru grade 12, stopped bing
mandatory at grade 9, I believe. Shop covered everything, woodworking,
metal working, welding, automotive, all the fun things.

I still have a welded magazine rack, from maybe grade 11-12. And,
a solid cherry bookcase, designed, and made by me in grade 10, I believe
it was.

Started out in grade 4 with a wall hanging plant holder. Neat
lille thing made of wood to hang on the wall, and the "pot" it self, was
made from a motor oil can, cut, and soldered. Pretty basic then,
apparently pretty advanced now. All hand tools until grade 10, as I
recall. Ah yes, we also had the use of a forge, from about grade 7 or
8. Made a cold chisel with that, should still have that too, it was/is
as good, or better, than any you can buy.

I remember sanding the tip of a finger or two off, in about grade 8
or 9. "Everyone", including my parents, put it down to carelessness on
my part. Which it was. Lesson learned? Don't do that again, and I
haven't. The shop teacher also demonstrated kickback on the table saw,
when I was in grade 9 (that's we moved into the new school, and had a
saw available). He said, don't do that, and stand out of the way, just
in case. I listened, and no kickback, and stand out of the way, just in
case. Then he proceeded to turn us loose, and went in his office, and
smoked his pipe. We survived nicely.

Back then it was considered that if you did something stupid, it
was your own fault if you got hurt, especially if you had already been
told not to do it. Nowadays, it seems to be the norm to put the blame
on someone else for your own stupidity, regardless of how many times
you've been told not to do it.




JOAT
Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
- David Fasold

We had both metal and wood class. Made a step stool, decorative
three-tier wall shelf, wall organizer (key hooks, paper roll, letter
holder), bud vase, lamp, small folding table. The bud vase and paper
cutter on the organizer were made from Plexiglas (somehow plastics and
woodworking can share many tools). In metal class I made a rotating
baby-jar organizer which my father put in his shop.

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:12:51 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:



What did you make?
What did your teacher make while you were occupied?


I made nothing. No shop in our school. Probably because it was before the
iron age and the only tools we had was a rock.

My son made a box with a hinged lid. My grandson made a shelf with a curved
pack and angle brackets. It is hanging in the downstairs hallway.

I took a four day course at a Woodcraft store and we made a CD shelf. It is
a fairly simple design, but you had to:
Select the wood
joint
plane
layout
cut curves on the bandsaw
scrape and sand
round over edges
cut a tenon
cut a dado
fit everything with handplane and chisels
drill and dowel one shelf

Ten people to a class and we learned basics of wood movement, sharpening
tools, story sticks, safety, saw demos of tool use, etc. Instructor (or his
assistant) did all the setups. Finishing was not done in class but some
time was spent discussing various finishes.

I would think most high school students would be interesting in having a CD
shelf or similar item. this was about 30 hours of class time but could be
done in more or less depending on what the kids already know.

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 09:36:43 -0500, Owen Lawrence wrote:

What did you make?
What did your teacher make while you were occupied?

Woodshop & metalshop was in the 8th grade. Made a few small things I
can't even remember, and a potters whell for mum. It had a kick arm to
keep a flywheel going. Metalshop was a center punch and the "biggie" was
a firewood carrier/holder. It was a circular piece of sheet steel with 4
hunks of chopped off heavy aluminum angle rivetted to it for feet and a
beefy hunk of aluminum bar rolled into a circle that wrapped arount the
curved steel carrier for a handle. It was also rivetted to the steel
shell. The wood carrier is still in mum's house though no more in use as
she had a NG insert put in the fireplace. She's too old (93) to use the
potters wheel, and it disappeared a few years ago, hopefully to one of her
great-grandchildren.

- Doug

--

To escape criticism--do nothing, say nothing, be nothing." (Elbert Hubbard)

"Owen Lawrence" wrote in message

What did you make?

Woodshop: cutting board(s), tall bookshelf and, of course, the requisite for
that day and age, a counter top cookbook holder for Mom.

Metalshop: cast aluminum skillet, cast aluminum feed scoop, 6' tall
birdcage.

What did your teacher make while you were occupied?

Mostly baseball bat paddles for the other coaches in the district ... this
was about 47 years ago and, unlike today, discipline was applied topically
to the area where it was thought likely to make the most memorable
impression.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 11/06/04

middle school: a small shelf consisting of a board and 2 plexiglass
shelves. disappeared. fox head sihoulette (sp??) which I still have. In
high school, for the beginning class, everyone made a bedside table out
of wood of their choice (mine was pine . I still have it, and now I
understand why I got a poor grade on it! . For the advanced class, I
made this humungous computer desk out of oak ply and oak facing. That
was a big heavy sucker. I designed it around my Atari 400 system at that
time. got rid of that. Also made a few small pieces.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in
news


What did you make?
What did your teacher make while you were occupied?


I made nothing. No shop in our school. Probably because it was
before the iron age and the only tools we had was a rock.


This month, I've spent each Saturday with a bunch of Boy Scouts, who,
for the most part, haven't had any shop class either. One of them, now
16, is working on an Eagle project.

We started a year ago January. The head woodchuck in our woodworker's
club has an Alaska chainsaw mill. Someone from church had a goodsized
(for suburban California) Western Red Cedar, that had to come down.
Bill cut up the cedar into slabs, and the boys carried and stickered the
wet slabs for drying.

A year later, we've got them built into two benches for the John Muir
National Monument. These are vaguely based on a design from the Shaker
Hancock village, which is in one of the major museums. The kids have
learned what it takes to go from a big tree to a finished piece of
outdoor furniture, and have something to donate as part of the process.
Except for the BSA-precluded power tools, they built them themselves.
Handsaws, chisels, mallets, and some big, honking Stanley planes,
wherever possible.

I could have built a couple of benches between breakfast and lunch, if
that's what it was about.

Shop never was really about building things, if done right. It was, and
should be, about opening minds to creativity and capability. That's why
Owen's questions brought back recollections many decades old. Mostly
good ones, too. At least amongst those who 'got it'.

BTW, back in the 60's, I was a potter, at school. Carpentry, and
masonry, I did with my dad, on weekends. Thrice blessed.

Patriarch

The two I remember were the walnut crescent moon lamp and the
wooden-based hammered copper ashtray. It's been a looooong time
since I made them. 1967 for the ashtray, and Mom asked me if I
wanted the crescent lamp back 2 years ago when she moved. (I didn't)

Thanks for the mammaries.

--
************************************************** *********
"Boy, I feel safer now that Martha Stewart is behind bars!
O.J. is walking around free, Osama Bin Laden too, but they
take the one woman in America willing to cook and clean
and work in the yard and haul her ass to jail."
--Tim Allen
************************************************** *********

"J T" wrote in message
...
Sun, Feb 20, 2005, 9:36am (Owen Lawrence) claims:
snip We had "Industrial Arts" from grade 7 to 9, age 12 to 14. snip

We had SHOP, period. None of this pansy "industrial arts" stuff.

Was it a 4-mile walk to school? Uphill both ways?

By great good luck, I made an 8-foot sailboat called a Sabot. I took
woodshop in my senior year of high school because I knew I'd blow
calculus and hate it. Our teacher in coastal San Diego was a sailor and
had built a Sabot jig that one student per year got to use.

As I remember it, he spent all of his time helping students and never
made anything for himself.

Bill

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 09:36:43 -0500, Owen Lawrence wrote:

What did you make?

At my HS, freshmen had only one choice for shop, "Introduction to the
Industrial Arts". A quarter each of wood, metal, drafting, and electricity.

In that short quarter-long class, I made a simple bookshelf strictly with
handtools. I still have it.

Sophomore wood was a semester and I built a small cherry chest. The wood
teacher offered to buy it from me to give to his wife. I had real trouble
coming up with the money for the materials, so I almost took him up on it.
But, instead, it's sitting across the room from me. I also made my
Grandmother a cutting board.

Sadly, there was just no way that I could pay for materials in later wood
classes on my own. So I've had to wait for, oh, 15ish years to get going
with it again.

--
Joe Wells

In article ,
Owen Lawrence wrote:
Reading the Yeeee-Hah!!! thread, it got to wondering how my high school
woodworking experience might differ from others. My impression was that our
projects were relatively small compared to other schools, possibly due to
overcrowding. We had "Industrial Arts" from grade 7 to 9, age 12 to 14.
But anyway, two questions come to mind:

What did you make?
What did your teacher make while you were occupied?


In my school district, 1 year of "industrial arts" for guys (home econ. for
girls) was mandatory -- 8th or 9th grade.

The Industrial Arts class was one semester of mechanical drafting, and one
semester of 'shop'. "Shop" was a smorgasbord -- learning how to set
hand-set type, and running a manually-powered printing press; sheet-metal
work -- building simple metal box (learning to use break, shear, tin-snips,
and the 'spot welder'), also a funnel, with a rolled-wire rim (other tin-
knocker tools, also forge-heated soldering iron, for water-tight joints in
the body/spout; 'Forge' -- made a cold-chisel; *and* "wood shop". everybody
did the same things: 1st project was one of those three-piece book racks.
You know the type.

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Second project was a hand-carved bowl. shape, etc, up to the student,
although overall dimensions were constrained.

For those who took shop in 8th grade, there was an 'optional' course for
9th grade. Hey! *power* tools. 1st two projects were 'required' ones:
#1 was a knick-knack shelf/box. Not a terribly _practical_ thing, but you
had to use quite a variety of joints -- miter, rabbet, dado, butt, "egg
crate" (I forget the proper name of that one), and "I forget, completely"
for the sixth one. And a five-sided piece of Masonite for the back.
(to prove you could cut proper 'non-square' cuts when you needed to.

Second project was the traditional checkerboard. Underlying lesson was
precision measuring _and_ cutting "counts".

2nd semester you could make 'what you wanted' -- had to have plans, and
the teacher had approve it first. This was mostly to keep things down
to a scope that _could_/_would_ get finished by the end of the school year.

I built a magazine table. working solely from an about 2"x2" picture from
a 'kit' ad which ran in the Wall Street Journal.


For the 2nd question, the teacher didn't make *anything* -- he was *fully*
occupied: (a) _asking_ questions of the students -- *LOADED* ones, like
"what are you going to do about ....?" when somebody was about to barge ahead
with something they hadn't thought all the way through. (b) _answering_
(not necessarily "constructively", but forcing 'education') questions from
the kids -- "how do I do ..."; (c) _helping_ as needed -- there were
frequent situations that called for "more than two hands", he provided
an extra pair. Sometimes he even got a few minutes to just stand around
and look at everybody "productively occupied". *grin*


Wood shop in high-school was more of the same -- "find a project you like,
and build it".

I had discovered R/C model airplanes, and built a field toolbox for flying.
from _my_own_ design and plans.

Also a faux "King George V" Library table.

And, senior year, a full-blown solid mahogany Dining Room table. Fixed
frame, expandable top, with 4 drop-in leaves. Seated up to 14 people.

*MOST* of what the teacher did in the H.S. shop, was 'safety steward',
stopping people from "doing something dumb" _before_ they did it. (In
three years, I believe the *worst* injury was of the 'hit the nail on the
thumb' variety.) And 'check testing' kids on the proper use of the various
pieces of power equipment, to make sure they knew the proper safety procedures,
before letting them use the gear themselves.

He was also available to answer questions about 'how to' perform a particular
task, or assist in reading plans, or help in design/drawing ones own project.

"shop" _was_ an elective, so everybody present _did_ have at least a moderate
background in woodworking, one way or another. This reduced the need to
'instruct', considerably. Many worked 'within the scope of their knowledge
and/or experience', the rest were not afraid to *ask* for help/guidance when
appropriate.

An apt description of the teaching 'style': lots of "guidance", very little
"instruction".

Admittedly, this was all 'cabinetmaking', not 'construction trades'. And
there is a big difference.

In article ,
Bob G. wrote:

I got it back and it now is
"framed" and hung in my wives kitchen...

This just like your cars... can't have enough wives either?

--
Owen Lowe
The Fly-by-Night Copper Company
____

"Sure we'll have fascism in America, but it'll come disguised
as 100% Americanism." -- Huey P. Long

Larry Jaques wrote:

snip

Thanks for the mammaries.

Is there you're trying to tell us?

;-)
Glen

Glen wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:

snip


Thanks for the mammaries.

Is there you're trying to tell us?

;-)
Glen
Make that "Is there something you're trying to tell us?"

;-)
glen

Owen Lawrence wrote:

What did you make?
What did your teacher make while you were occupied?


We had to outfit our new HS workshop space with storage: shelving, bins,
racks, benches, etc. Made lots of box joints, torsion boxes, and
combination low shelving/workbench units. Our teacher was a combination
designer, foreman and screw up fixer. Those that came after us got to
make fancy stuff: decorative boxes, turnings, small tables.

J.

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 09:36:43 -0500, "Owen Lawrence"
wrote:

Reading the Yeeee-Hah!!! thread, it got to wondering how my high school
woodworking experience might differ from others. My impression was that our
projects were relatively small compared to other schools, possibly due to
overcrowding. We had "Industrial Arts" from grade 7 to 9, age 12 to 14.
But anyway, two questions come to mind:

What did you make?

Maybe you can give me some age-appropriate ideas that my own children will
like to try. So far my 13 year old has had NO formal shop instruction at
school. But that's a separate thread.

- Owen -


I remember only going to an 8th grade woodworking class once a week.
In it, I made a gravity bookshelf. I think my mom still has it.
Funny to think how long it took to make then, compared to now when it
might take an hour or two.

There was an exploratory shop class in HS, but not much time spent in
it due the relatively large number of shops the school had.

Lazarus Long wrote in
:

I remember only going to an 8th grade woodworking class once a week.
In it, I made a gravity bookshelf.

Sorry to show my ognorance, but I'm not familiar with a "gravity
bookshelf". Could you explain, please?

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 04:38:13 GMT, the inscrutable "Keith Carlson"
spake:


"J T" wrote in message
...
Sun, Feb 20, 2005, 9:36am (Owen Lawrence) claims:
snip We had "Industrial Arts" from grade 7 to 9, age 12 to 14. snip

We had SHOP, period. None of this pansy "industrial arts" stuff.

Was it a 4-mile walk to school? Uphill both ways?

I had Wood Shop and Metal Shop in 1968. I also have a 1916 book by
Varnum titled "Arts & Crafts Design" which was originally titled
"Industrial Arts Design: A Textbook of Practical Methods for Students,
Teachers, and Craftsmen." Tell JOAT there were no pansies back then.


--
************************************************** *********
"Boy, I feel safer now that Martha Stewart is behind bars!
O.J. is walking around free, Osama Bin Laden too, but they
take the one woman in America willing to cook and clean
and work in the yard and haul her ass to jail."
--Tim Allen
************************************************** *********

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 12:29:58 GMT, the inscrutable Glen
spake:

Larry Jaques wrote:

snip

Thanks for the mammaries.

Is there you're trying to tell us?

;-)
Glen

What, you haven't kept abreast?

--
************************************************** *********
"Boy, I feel safer now that Martha Stewart is behind bars!
O.J. is walking around free, Osama Bin Laden too, but they
take the one woman in America willing to cook and clean
and work in the yard and haul her ass to jail."
--Tim Allen
************************************************** *********

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:13:19 GMT, Han wrote:

Lazarus Long wrote in
:

I remember only going to an 8th grade woodworking class once a week.
In it, I made a gravity bookshelf.

Sorry to show my ognorance, but I'm not familiar with a "gravity
bookshelf". Could you explain, please?

It's a board held at an angle by putting a cleat on the underside at
one across it's width. The other lower end gets a bookrest on the
upper face of said board. In this case, it was three dowels joined at
the top with a small block.

"Owen Lawrence" wrote in
:

What did you make?

I took shop off & on from 6th grade up... first thing I remember making was
a classic pukeyduck, which for some unfathomable reason still sits in the
bottom drawer of our entertainment center. Then I moved on to a pencil
holder, complete with routed base.

A few years later, I hit the big time . In high school, got to use a
lathe -- never actually made any project with it, just fooled around making
various turnings. Shop was pretty varied at that school -- we were also
taught welding (I passed, but that's the best I can say). The highlight
though was getting to make a cedar sea chest (about 4'x2'x2'), with box-
jointed corners & curved slatted top.

Of course, a few years later I gave it to my then-fiance... and another
year after that we broke up, but I never did get the chest (get your minds
out of the gutter!) back to get to my "true" SWMBO. Oh well...

-Richard, who couldn't bring himself to type "seaman's chest" for some
reason.

Australopithecus scobis wrote:
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 09:36:43 -0500, Owen Lawrence wrote:

What did you make?
What did your teacher make while you were occupied?


Made a chess board out of walnut and maple (still have it, I'm 36 now).
A Spice rack that my parents still use, and a wall rack that they
still have in their basement!

When I was probably 10-12 yrs old, my dad was a VP for a lumber
company. He used to bring home pine cutoffs and I'd build bird houses,
all with hand tools. I remember sawing my ASS off. Back then I don't
believe I ever heard of wood glue, as everything was held together with
big nails!!

I also remember that my neighbor gave me a few shingles to put on one
of the bird houses... Man, was I thrilled!

Lazarus Long wrote in
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:13:19 GMT, Han wrote:

Lazarus Long wrote in
m:

I remember only going to an 8th grade woodworking class once a week.
In it, I made a gravity bookshelf.

Sorry to show my ognorance, but I'm not familiar with a "gravity
bookshelf". Could you explain, please?

It's a board held at an angle by putting a cleat on the underside at
one across it's width. The other lower end gets a bookrest on the
upper face of said board. In this case, it was three dowels joined at
the top with a small block.

Thanks LL!
I've seen them, now you describe it.

--
Best regards
Han
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This thread reminded me about a "safety" film shown in HS metal shop.
A sliver of metal was driven to a man's eye by a machine cutting
metal, the man was rushed to emergency and to the operating room where
the metal was surgically removed (the embedded metal was aluminum, do
a magnet was no use). The flick showed a close up of the operation,
blood and all, and a boy in the class collapsed, hit his head on the
work bench, and got a concussion. Needless to say, it did drive home
the importance of wearing safety glasses with side shields. I guess
hard hats should be recommended for safety films.

It was called Industrial Arts at my high school. Sophomore year it
consisted of wood shop. I made a bookshelf. It took all year. I remember
it wasn't very square. I think it earned a C grade. I had those shelves
for many years after. Junior year was all drafting. Only 2 juniors in
the class, myself and one other. All the rest freshmen. Didn't do so
good in that class either. Senior year was shop again. More BS than
anything else. Did learn about pinhole cameras though. This was in the
early '70's.
Joe

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:38:15 GMT, Phisherman wrote:
This thread reminded me about a "safety" film shown in HS metal shop.
A sliver of metal was driven to a man's eye by a machine cutting
metal, the man was rushed to emergency and to the operating room where
the metal was surgically removed (the embedded metal was aluminum, do
a magnet was no use). The flick showed a close up of the operation,
blood and all, and a boy in the class collapsed, hit his head on the
work bench, and got a concussion. Needless to say, it did drive home
the importance of wearing safety glasses with side shields. I guess
hard hats should be recommended for safety films.

Heh...we had a guy faint during a (not so bad) portion of a film
in EMT class. He didn't finish the course, decided that blood and
guts wasn't his idea of a good time. Nothing like going to a
convention where they schedule "traumatic amputations" for
right before lunch.

"Dave Hinz" wrote in message
...


Heh...we had a guy faint during a (not so bad) portion of a film
in EMT class. He didn't finish the course, decided that blood and
guts wasn't his idea of a good time. Nothing like going to a
convention where they schedule "traumatic amputations" for
right before lunch.



Sadly, a lot of freshly minted EMTs leave the field early after a
particularly gruesome event. Can't argue with their choice, but a lot of
them could row the boat and let the other shoot the ducks.

We have a 12-year veteran on our squad who cannot stand vomit. Which is
pretty much everywhere when you think about it. I just let her drive and
make sure there's a towel (deflector) loaded after remaking the cot.

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:15:27 -0500, George george@least wrote:

"Dave Hinz" wrote in message
...


Heh...we had a guy faint during a (not so bad) portion of a film
in EMT class. He didn't finish the course, decided that blood and
guts wasn't his idea of a good time. Nothing like going to a
convention where they schedule "traumatic amputations" for
right before lunch.

Sadly, a lot of freshly minted EMTs leave the field early after a
particularly gruesome event. Can't argue with their choice, but a lot of
them could row the boat and let the other shoot the ducks.

Thing is, the rates of people quitting for that reason go _way_ down
with a post-incident stress debriefing program. But, even with that,
there are some that stick with you more than others, eh?

We have a 12-year veteran on our squad who cannot stand vomit. Which is
pretty much everywhere when you think about it. I just let her drive and
make sure there's a towel (deflector) loaded after remaking the cot.

Heh. Maybe ten years ago, we had a guy with an upper-GI bleed.
Crew capatain was interviewing him, I was the new guy so I was
hauling equipment. Bill asked the patient a question, he turned
to answer, and projectile-vomited full square into Bill's chest.
Didn't miss a beat, kept up the interview, "...and how long have
you been vomiting today?".

Puke, I don't mind so much. Grey matter just oogs me out, though.

Mon, Feb 21, 2005, 4:38am (EST+5)
(Keith=A0Carlson) asks:
Was it a 4-mile walk to school? Uphill both ways?

Afraid it was only going on a mile, and yes, it was walked - rain,
sunshine, snow, whatever. I think the only time I got driven to school
was the first day. And only about half of it was uphill. Then when I
was in the 7th grade we moved, and it was several miles to school, so I
got to ride the bus. I was at the end of the route going to school, so
got there fast. And, I was at the end of the route coming home, so
spent about an hour or more getting home.



JOAT
Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
- David Fasold

Mon, Feb 21, 2005, 7:15am (EST-3)
(Larry=A0Jaques) says to say:
" Tell JOAT there were no pansies back then.

Hmm, I gradgeeated in '58. They had 'em then. What happened,
someone forget to water 'em?



JOAT
Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
- David Fasold

Mon, Feb 21, 2005, 6:38pm (EST+5) (Phisherman) says:
snip eye by a machine cutting metal, snip

That happened to my dad, in the '40s or '50s. HE went to a doctor.
He always claimed the doctor "froze" his eyeball, and then scraped the
metal out. I can't say he was given to making up stories, so I guess it
happened that way.



JOAT
Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
- David Fasold

"Dave Hinz" wrote in message
...

Puke, I don't mind so much. Grey matter just oogs me out, though.


Only one more month until the snowmobilers quit contesting the right-of-way
with (OBWW) maples. You learn quickly why they call them "brain buckets."
Question I have is why didn't they use what they seem to have to drive with
care?

I took EVERY woodshop class offered all through Jr. and High school.
That amounted to 6 straight years.

Some of the stuff I made:

Jr. High school - The obligatory 3 board slanted mahogany bookshelf.
They made us butt it together with countersunk screws. Was only allowed
to use hand tools. Took it home and cut dadoes on the tablesaw to sturdy
it up better(graces the back of my dunny, currently - perfect fit )

An upright guncase of my own design out of knotty pine with a danish oil
finish. Black felted every surface a gun could touch and the inside of
the drawer.

High school - A very nice custom computer desk with a formica laminated
half oval top. Made it out of pine with a danish oil finish. Replaced
the one of the same design I made the summer before out of plywood.

A custom wall cabinet for my bedroom. Built to hold all the electronic
gear (TV, VCR, Video games, Stereo, etc) with raised panel doors to hide
it all.

Spent a year on the lathe turning out all sorts of bowls and canes. My
favorite being a set of candy dishes made out of scraps. Turned a few
billy clubs too, when the teacher wasn't watching ;-)

Spent the last half of my sr year helping out others get their projects
finshed up before we graduated.