Sun, Jan 15, 2006, 10:01am (EST-3)
(mac*davis) is over his memory loss:
snip (damn.. words that I haven't thought about in about in over 35
years come back way to easy)

Words like that pop up in my speech every once in awhile.
Generally to the confusion of whoever hears them. Kinda amazing tho,
how a word or two brings back stuff you lived with every day, but
haven't thought about in years. I think maybe because the time'b been
spent with people who never went thru any of it, and wouldn't
understand. I think it's good to occassionaly remember those things -
some because they were good - and some because they were bad, but are
over.



JOAT
You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear".
What do you "know"?
- Granny Weatherwax

Sun, Jan 15, 2006, 7:26am (EST-1) (Swingman) sagely
states:
snip I was aware that there were "services" that would do this for a
fee, but that fee has always appeared a bit steep for what I wanted to
do ... starting to think it may be actually be a bargain. snip

I'm going that route, getting someone else to do it. For me, it'll
be a one-time shot, getting negatives made from slides, then prints
made. I don't see any reason to sink money into equipment I'd only use
once.



JOAT
You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear".
What do you "know"?
- Granny Weatherwax

On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:37:26 -0500, (J T) wrote:

Sun, Jan 15, 2006, 9:59am (EST-3)
(mac*davis) doth remindeth me:
snip Same goes for mortars... people think that they explode out of
the tube AND when they hit... that would be a neat trick.

Oh, I don't know. LOL I was driving past an infantry outpst
somewhere between Anh Khe and Pleiku, when a 4.2" went off. Startled
the Hell out of me, and I proceeded to slam on the brakes. My boss,
very patronizingly says, "Don't worry, they're not shooting at us". I
just looked at him, and said, "I 'know' that, but I want to see where'
they're shooting before I go further". Took a few seconds for it to
sink in for him, and by that time the round had hit, a mile or so, to
our left. We then, speedily, went on. LMAO

Another time, we had radio traffic saying a bridge outpost was
being hit a mile or so down the road from us - rockets, small arms,
mortars. I wasn't driving this time. We pulled over in a pump station
to wait it all out. Then the LTC got antsy, probably with visitions of
a Meal of Honor, or at least a Silver Star, and told the driver to
proceed. All this with the bridge still under attack. And, me in the
back, saying the standard mantra to the War Gods, "Oh, ****, this
idiot's gonna get me killed". "Oh, ****, this idiot's gonna get me
killed". "Oh, ****, this idiot's gonna get me killed". Luckily the
driver wasn't in any great hurry, the LTC didn't get on him to go
faster, and it was all over before we got. Fortunately, the War Gods
answered my praryer. LMAO May the Gods protect us from the Custers in
our lives.


I suspect that those who survived are the ones who retired and now are
those who slow down and stop while in the fast lane to observe the accident
on the oncoming side of the road.




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"J T" wrote in message
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Sun, Jan 15, 2006, 7:26am (EST-1) (Swingman) sagely
states:
snip I was aware that there were "services" that would do this for a
fee, but that fee has always appeared a bit steep for what I wanted to
do ... starting to think it may be actually be a bargain. snip

I'm going that route, getting someone else to do it. For me, it'll
be a one-time shot, getting negatives made from slides, then prints
made. I don't see any reason to sink money into equipment I'd only use
once.

Depends on the cost of the gear. I've found a couple really cheap slide
duplicators/copiers on Ebay, so I stuck a bid in on one. I've got way too
many slides around here to duplicate to even think I'm going to do them all,
not to mention a pee pot full of black and white negs, but I can pick and
choose the best and see what happens, and the gear shouldn't cost me more
than $35 or so, unless bidding stalls at its present point, when cost would
be 10 bucks.

It does help to have studio flash units (though other lights work just as
well with digital cameras), and a DSLR.

"J T" wrote in message

Words like that pop up in my speech every once in awhile.
Generally to the confusion of whoever hears them. Kinda amazing tho,
how a word or two brings back stuff you lived with every day, but
haven't thought about in years.

Remember being "short" and taking No chances in injun country cuz you were
close to DEROS, had it dicked, and before you didi mau'd outta there you
didn't want no numbah ten dinky dau ****ing with you?

Or marking the days off a calendar in your wallet/cutting those last 30
links off your dog tags, one at a time?

Chao Co, dude.

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In article , Swingman
wrote:

I was aware that there were "services" that would do this for a fee, but
that fee has always appeared a bit steep for what I wanted to do ...
starting to think it may be actually be a bargain.

I haven't looked at for a number of years, but we were appproached a
number of years ago by a local fellow who had just bought the (then
new) Kodak Photo CD setup. He offered to scan our photo orchaive of a
period of a couple of years at a cost of between $1 and $1.50 per
image.

Of course, he was looking at 10s of thousands of pics, negs and slides
with a very open timeframe.

We sent some negs out for scanning in November when our big scanner
went down, and paid (IIRC) $8.50 CDN each.

djb

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accepts personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic of which he
is a member. The civilian does not. ‹ Robert A. Heinlein

"Dave Balderstone" wrote in message

I haven't looked at for a number of years, but we were appproached a
number of years ago by a local fellow who had just bought the (then
new) Kodak Photo CD setup. He offered to scan our photo orchaive of a
period of a couple of years at a cost of between $1 and $1.50 per
image.

Of course, he was looking at 10s of thousands of pics, negs and slides
with a very open timeframe.

We sent some negs out for scanning in November when our big scanner
went down, and paid (IIRC) $8.50 CDN each.

Ouch! ... thought I saw someone offering to do slides for .12 cents each
recently. That wouldn't be too bad as I only have a couple of thousand or
so, but after what I am reading here, I'm starting to suspect the quality at
that price.

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In article , Swingman
wrote:

Ouch! ... thought I saw someone offering to do slides for .12 cents each
recently. That wouldn't be too bad as I only have a couple of thousand or
so, but after what I am reading here, I'm starting to suspect the quality at
that price.

I sure would...

In order of quality and cost:

Oil-mount on drum scanner (IOW, carrier is torn open, transparency is
removed)

Dedicated slide scanner

Combo slide/neg scanner

Desktop scanner with light hood and slide "adapter".
djb

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accepts personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic of which he
is a member. The civilian does not. ‹ Robert A. Heinlein

Sun, Jan 15, 2006, 2:23pm (EST-2)
(Mark*&*Juanita) apparently has been smoking his sawdust again, and
says:
******I suspect that those who survived are the ones who
retired and now are those who slow down and stop while in the fast lane
to observe the accident on the oncoming side of the road.

And, what's the Hell that supposed to mean? You're not making any
sense at all, with some statement like that.



JOAT
If you can't say anything nice about someone, you must be talking about
Hilary Clinton.

Sun, Jan 15, 2006, 9:24pm (EST+5)
(Charles*Self) says:
Depends on the cost of the gear. snip

I ran acoss some of my old camera gear in the back room. Still
need to go thru it. But, I may just already have a slide
duplicatorcopier. Even so, I've got a LOT of slides, and don't really
think I want to mess with it. I think it probably won't wind up costing
so much more for someone to do it for me, and I won't be months in
getting it done. Unless it's gonna be really expensive, I think I'll
just pay.



JOAT
If you can't say anything nice about someone, you must be talking about
Hilary Clinton.

Sun, Jan 15, 2006, 4:02pm (EST-1) (Swingman) doth sayeth
it:
Remember being "short" and taking No chances in injun country cuz you
were close to DEROS, had it dicked, and before you didi mau'd outta
there you didn't want no numbah ten dinky dau ****ing with you?
Or marking the days off a calendar in your wallet/cutting those last 30
links off your dog tags, one at a time?
Chao Co, dude.

Oh yes. And R&R. And hollering WORKING, while talking on the land
line. C-rats in the messhall. LRP-rats - if you could sawp for them..
MREs. And, all the really lousy beer that was all that was available,
because all the good stuff was kept in Saigon.

I babysat some equipment to Saigon once. Got in the NCO mess and
they had lobster and steak. First off, couldn't believe it, then
couldn't make up my mind, so the cook said I could have both. In our
mess it was regular C-rats, and really old roast beef - seldom steak,
and never, ever, anything as exotic as lobster. Saigon warriors.



JOAT
If you can't say anything nice about someone, you must be talking about
Hilary Clinton.

On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:44:00 -0500, (J T) wrote:

Sun, Jan 15, 2006, 2:23pm (EST-2)
(Mark*&*Juanita) apparently has been smoking his sawdust again, and
says:
******I suspect that those who survived are the ones who
retired and now are those who slow down and stop while in the fast lane
to observe the accident on the oncoming side of the road.

And, what's the Hell that supposed to mean? You're not making any
sense at all, with some statement like that.


Well, since you cut out the context around it, no wonder you don't know
what I was saying.

My point was, those emulators of Custer who survived their
self-destructive behavior in combat situations probably wound up retiring,
mustering out, and now engage in equally self-destructive and dangerous to
others behaviors in civilian life. One of those behaviors being
rubbernecking activities in places that don't affect them while, in so
doing, both annoying those around them and endangering others by creating
dangerous situations in areas where they should be paying attention.

HTH



JOAT
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Hilary Clinton.


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"J T" wrote in message

LRP-rats - if you could sawp for them..

I was authorized - ate little else but 'lurps' for 7 months ... it was
either that or dog. (Remembering how getting down to "1 and a wakeup" was
the high point/main goal of your life)

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Sun, Jan 15, 2006, 9:20pm (EST-2)
(Mark*&*Juanita) doth sayeth:
****Well, since you cut out the context around it, no wonder you
don't know what I was saying.
****My point was, those emulators of Custer who survived their
self-destructive behavior in combat situations probably wound up
retiring, mustering out, and now engage in equally self-destructive and
dangerous to others behaviors in civilian life. One of those behaviors
being rubbernecking activities in places that don't affect them while,
in so doing, both annoying those around them and endangering others by
creating dangerous situations in areas where they should be paying
attention.

I consider "myself" a survivor. Since you made no mention of
"Custer" types, I wouldn't have understood what you meant, no matter
what I did, or didn't, cut out. I don't consider "Custer" types
self-destructive at all, but do consider them a huge danger to those
they have command over. Unfortunately, when they do go, they tend to
take a lot of people with them.



JOAT
If you can't say anything nice about someone, you must be talking about
Hilary Clinton.

Mon, Jan 16, 2006, 6:29am (EST-1) (Swingman) doth recall:
I was authorized - ate little else but 'lurps' for 7 months ... it was
either that or dog. (Remembering how getting down to "1 and a wakeup"
was the high point/main goal of your life)

Thought it was Korea where they ate dogs, and cats in Nam. No
water buffalo?

I don't know if I've ever eaten dog. I learned long ago, don't ask
what you're eating - because you may not want to know.

Ah yes. One and a wakeup. Haven't thought of that one for many
years. That's "definitely" one of those, "You had to be there", things.
What a warm fuzzy feeling that was. Damn, thinking of that makes me
still feel good. LMAO



JOAT
If you can't say anything nice about someone, you must be talking about
Hilary Clinton.

"J T" wrote in message

Thought it was Korea where they ate dogs, and cats in Nam.

The ARVN Ranger unit I FO'ed for found it easier to have their dinner come
when whistled ... besides, cats won't follow you around.

No
water buffalo?

We used those as targets to test our latest firing parameters.


I don't know if I've ever eaten dog. I learned long ago, don't ask
what you're eating - because you may not want to know.

I didn't want to, but it was apparent the first time, even to a wooddorker,
why all those dogs we left with didn't come back with us .... they were part
and parcel of an elegant solution to the refrigeration problem inherent in
feeding 400 troops for 30 days.

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Mon, Jan 16, 2006, 11:42am (EST-1) (Swingman) sayeth:
snip We used those as targets to test our latest firing parameters.
snip

If you didn't retrieve any, you missed out on some good eats. Same
as regular beef, to my taste, just a tad coarser.

I think I ate baby mice wrapped in dough once, so it wouldn't be
much of a big deal, eating dog.



JOAT
If you can't say anything nice about someone, you must be talking about
Hilary Clinton.