This came up as part of anothe rone of my post called "Precision Router
Lift versus Quick Lift:"

In that thread it was pointed out that buying the big Milwaulkee router
or a Trinton would give one the ability to lift the router without
having to buy both a router and a lift.

It's my understanding that a router lift is extremely acurate (0.001
inch) and smooth to operate whereas the built in above the table
adjustments are accurate to only 1/64'th inch (0.015").

In my case, I already own a Porter-Cable 7519 so I could
1) Continue to adjust from under the table and save the money.
2) Buy a nice router lift like the PRL.
3) Buy a nice Milwaulkee 3.5 HP router with the height adjustment built
in for about the same price as the #2 option.


What say y'all?

"Never Enough Money" wrote in message
ups.com...
This came up as part of anothe rone of my post called "Precision Router
Lift versus Quick Lift:"

In that thread it was pointed out that buying the big Milwaulkee router
or a Trinton would give one the ability to lift the router without
having to buy both a router and a lift.

It's my understanding that a router lift is extremely acurate (0.001
inch) and smooth to operate whereas the built in above the table
adjustments are accurate to only 1/64'th inch (0.015").

In my case, I already own a Porter-Cable 7519 so I could
1) Continue to adjust from under the table and save the money.
2) Buy a nice router lift like the PRL.
3) Buy a nice Milwaulkee 3.5 HP router with the height adjustment built
in for about the same price as the #2 option.


What say y'all?

I say 1/64th is close enough for wood working. I use a PC 895 which allows
me to set the height whichever way is most convenient..
Jim

Jim wrote:


I say 1/64th is close enough for wood working. I use a PC 895 which allows
me to set the height whichever way is most convenient..
Jim


I say 1/64th is NOT close enough for fine woodworking. What sort of
stuff do you build?

Dave

Yes I agree. 1/64th is a canyon as far as I'm concerned.

I agree, too. I think I can easy see 1/128'th.
rickluce wrote:
Yes I agree. 1/64th is a canyon as far as I'm concerned.

What kind of woodworking are you doing? Jessem makes a great router
lift, but if your doing cabinet work it would probably be overkill.
There are people on this group that are happy adjusting their router
manually from underneath. Also I know of a lot people that swear by
their 7519 router.

I tried to stay out of this; I really did . . .

I was drooling over the router lifts when I had a plunge router mounted
in my table. It was such a pain to adjust the height, or especially to
make the long moves necessary to change bits etc.

The lift I coveted most took the motor from a PC 7518. So, I figured,
I'd buy the router first and get the lift later. Once I got the PC
7518 fixed base mounted, I never saw much need for a lift anymore.
It's so easy to adjust, my priorities instantly shifted to other toys
to spend my money on.

Just my two cents worth. Your mileage may vary.

DonkeyHody
"We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom
that is in it - and stop there; lest we be like the cat that sits down
on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid
again---and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold
one anymore." - Mark Twain

I'm a serious hobbyist, not a professional. I do mostly furniture.

Right now my 7519 is under a table and I find it tedious to adjust.
Maybe I just don't know some tricks????


rickluce wrote:
What kind of woodworking are you doing? Jessem makes a great router
lift, but if your doing cabinet work it would probably be overkill.
There are people on this group that are happy adjusting their router
manually from underneath. Also I know of a lot people that swear by
their 7519 router.

"Never Enough Money" wrote in message
ups.com...

In my case, I already own a Porter-Cable 7519 so I could
1) Continue to adjust from under the table and save the money.
2) Buy a nice router lift like the PRL.
3) Buy a nice Milwaulkee 3.5 HP router with the height adjustment built
in for about the same price as the #2 option.


Again I say #3. You can easily adjust the router to any depth you want.
The markings just go to 1/64th. If in doubt and you should be even with a
router lift, test cut a piece. Then adjust. Are you going to use a caliper
with each test to check for .001 accuracy? IMHO these router lifts are
great but their time has past with the coming of the new routers.

I don't know of any. I use a rout-r-lift because it was such a pain to
make the kind of adjustments you are speaking of. The lift works
exceptionally well and it was worth every penny I paid for it. One
caveat, like all tools, they do move. I've devised a clamping system
that locks that router mechanism in place.

"Jim" writes:
I say 1/64th is close enough for wood working.

Just today I was working with 0.005 tolerance (slotting). 1/64 off on
DOVETAILS is a disaster. Heck, I use feeler gauges to fine tune my
dovetails, which involves setting the height to within a few thou.
(I've got the 32tpi PRL, has 0.001 marks).

1/64 is not anywhere near close enough. Try a mortise and tenon joint that
is out by 1/64. Won't work. Try a sliding dovetail that is out by 1/64.
Won't even come close to working. Most woodworker that have gotten past the
deck building stage work to much closer tolerances than this but don't
realize it because the fit it by hand, not measurement. In any case, as has
been explained before, there is a difference between accuracy potential and
graduation on the dial. The routers that have beneath table adjustments
built in are controlled with screws, thus are continuously adjustable. If
the dial is graduated in 1/64, there is nothing saying that you have to turn
it that far. That said, I use a PC 690 (with no lift) and by fence is held
down with C clamps. I can get perfect cuts with this set up. It's the
operator, not the equipment. Learn to use what you have.

"Jim" wrote in message
. com...

I say 1/64th is close enough for wood working. I use a PC 895 which
allows
me to set the height whichever way is most convenient..
Jim

Well, I guess since I have the big Milwaukee mounted in my table, I
can speak with a little experience. You can adjust that router closer
than 1/64". It simply depends on how much you turn the adjusting
wrench. And like another gentleman stated, make a cut and test. Then
adjust. See the photos I just posted on the photos sister group.

Terry Sumner

On 3 Dec 2005 16:19:44 -0800, "Never Enough Money"
wrote:

This came up as part of anothe rone of my post called "Precision Router
Lift versus Quick Lift:"

In that thread it was pointed out that buying the big Milwaulkee router
or a Trinton would give one the ability to lift the router without
having to buy both a router and a lift.

It's my understanding that a router lift is extremely acurate (0.001
inch) and smooth to operate whereas the built in above the table
adjustments are accurate to only 1/64'th inch (0.015").

In my case, I already own a Porter-Cable 7519 so I could
1) Continue to adjust from under the table and save the money.
2) Buy a nice router lift like the PRL.
3) Buy a nice Milwaulkee 3.5 HP router with the height adjustment built
in for about the same price as the #2 option.


What say y'all?