I am looking to purchase a router and would like some advice. I want a
decent product, but am a public servant, so I cannot afford a
top-of-the-line router. Can someone recommend a decent starter
model/brand for me? I went to a woodworking store and they told me to go
with the high end model, but i don't know if they just wanted to make
money, or were being honest. I know you get what you pay for, but
there's gotta be a decent starter that won't kill my wallet. Any
suggestions would be helpful. Thanks in advance, Ferg

http://community.webtv.net/Ferg_/Fergsoutdoor

C Ferg wrote:
I am looking to purchase a router and would like some advice. I want a
decent product, but am a public servant, so I cannot afford a
top-of-the-line router. Can someone recommend a decent starter
model/brand for me? I went to a woodworking store and they told me to go
with the high end model, but i don't know if they just wanted to make
money, or were being honest. I know you get what you pay for, but
there's gotta be a decent starter that won't kill my wallet. Any
suggestions would be helpful. Thanks in advance, Ferg

http://community.webtv.net/Ferg_/Fergsoutdoor

I would look at some of the kits. I don't know how much your looking to
spend but you can get the Porter Cable 693LRPK for around $160 or so. It
comes with the fixed and plunge base. You could then mount the fixed
base in a table and leave it. You could use the plunge base for hand
held work.

Milwaukee Model 5615-20 (shown) costs from $150 to $160 for free hand. For
table I'd have to say the Triton TR-TRA001 $379.01 everybody does

When I first got the idea to buy a router, I spent $99 bucks on a Craftsman
with a plunge and fixed base. Still use it today the only real mistake with
it was the 1/4 inch. I'd shop for atleast 1/2 inch.... Consider quality
based on versatility, time and material. The more time you'll use it and the
more expensive the wood the better machine......
joe






"C Ferg" wrote in message
...
I am looking to purchase a router and would like some advice. I want a
decent product, but am a public servant, so I cannot afford a
top-of-the-line router. Can someone recommend a decent starter
model/brand for me? I went to a woodworking store and they told me to go
with the high end model, but i don't know if they just wanted to make
money, or were being honest. I know you get what you pay for, but
there's gotta be a decent starter that won't kill my wallet. Any
suggestions would be helpful. Thanks in advance, Ferg

http://community.webtv.net/Ferg_/Fergsoutdoor

C Ferg wrote:

I am looking to purchase a router and would like some advice.

Open up your wallet, take out $200, and proceed to the nearest good tool
store.

Look for a kit that contains a standard and a plunge base.

I chose Porter-Cable.

YMMV

Lew

In article ,
(C Ferg) wrote:

Can someone recommend a decent starter
model/brand for me?

Can someone recommend a vehicle for me? Sorry for the wise-ass answer
but like vehicle shopping, what you want to do with the router makes all
the difference in the responses you'll get.

Are you looking to do simple round-overs and mouldings or big, honkin'
crowns and raised panels?

Do you want hand-held, stationary or both? Plunge, fixed base or both?

What's your budget range in real dollars? (Don't worry about telling the
figure, no one is going to heckle you - OK, maybe some monkey butt will,
but we don't know who you are so the embarrassment will be short lived.)

You might be interested in looking at Pat Warner's router website. He's
well-respected in all things routerific.
http://www.patwarner.com
--
Owen Lowe
The Fly-by-Night Copper Company
__________

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
Corporate States of America and to the
Republicans for which it stands, one nation,
under debt, easily divisible, with liberty
and justice for oil."
- Wiley Miller, Non Sequitur, 1/24/05

Fly-by-Night CC wrote:

In article ,
(C Ferg) wrote:

Can someone recommend a decent starter
model/brand for me?

Can someone recommend a vehicle for me? Sorry for the wise-ass answer
but like vehicle shopping, what you want to do with the router makes all
the difference in the responses you'll get.

Are you looking to do simple round-overs and mouldings or big, honkin'
crowns and raised panels?

Do you want hand-held, stationary or both? Plunge, fixed base or both?

What's your budget range in real dollars? (Don't worry about telling the
figure, no one is going to heckle you - OK, maybe some monkey butt will,
but we don't know who you are so the embarrassment will be short lived.)

You might be interested in looking at Pat Warner's router website. He's
well-respected in all things routerific.
http://www.patwarner.com

I have gotten some great deals at the pawn shop. I have a nice 1/2"
Bosch fixed base router that I think I paid less than $50 for. I
happen to like Bosch and Porter Cable. The library may have some
woodworking magazines. Most magazines review routers every other year
or so. I know some magizine I have a subscription to just had a
review. The name of the magazine slips the mind as I did not buy the
subscription.

Jim B.

I got the porter cable 690 combo kit. It was a good value for a decent
router. It wont do everything but is a good place to start. May be slightly
different model now.
"C Ferg" wrote in message
...
I am looking to purchase a router and would like some advice. I want a
decent product, but am a public servant, so I cannot afford a
top-of-the-line router. Can someone recommend a decent starter
model/brand for me? I went to a woodworking store and they told me to go
with the high end model, but i don't know if they just wanted to make
money, or were being honest. I know you get what you pay for, but
there's gotta be a decent starter that won't kill my wallet. Any
suggestions would be helpful. Thanks in advance, Ferg

http://community.webtv.net/Ferg_/Fergsoutdoor

"HMFIC- 1369" PRC- wrote in message
news:q4zOe.17024$xp.3591@trnddc02...
Milwaukee Model 5615-20 (shown) costs from $150 to $160 for free hand. For
table I'd have to say the Triton TR-TRA001 $379.01 everybody does


I agree with the Triton for the larger router.. Yes I replaced my big old
Bosch with the Triton and after 1 year am still very pleased with its
performance and versatility. The bosch was 16 years old. This last weekend
I noticed the Triton at Woodcraft at $329.00.

I bought the PC 690 with three bases and a router table for $260 years
ago. Plunge, D Handle and fixed base (for the router table). Tool King
sells this for $309 as Porter-Cable 691PW Professional Router Workshop.

It's a good starter kit. You might find a router table easier to work with.


"HMFIC- 1369" PRC- writes:

Milwaukee Model 5615-20 (shown) costs from $150 to $160 for free hand. For
table I'd have to say the Triton TR-TRA001 $379.01 everybody does

I've been looking at the Triton for a router table.
I have also been looking at the new porter cable router 895PK.
This has a height adjustment that will work while mounted on a router table.

Also - it uses the same base as the 690 series.
So I can buy one and use it with existing router tables.

Anyone have any experience with the 895 compared to the Triton?
Variable speed.
Slow Start
2 1/4 HP


--
Sending unsolicited commercial e-mail to this account incurs a fee of
$500 per message, and acknowledges the legality of this contract.

Jim Behning wrote:


I have gotten some great deals at the pawn shop. I have a nice 1/2"
Bosch fixed base router that I think I paid less than $50 for.

Wonder if the guy, who hocked it after stealing it from some like me,
got enough to buy at least one $10 rock?

Lew

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
et...
Jim Behning wrote:

snip
Wonder if the guy, who hocked it after stealing it from some like me, got
enough to buy at least one $10 rock?

Lew

There are some things we aren't meant to know, Lew... and probably wouldn't
want to.

Maybe the miserable SOB reeeealy had a starving baby at home, or some such
Sh--.
The bleeding hearts among us must have SOME basis in reality for their
spewing.
Tom
Maker of Fine Sawdust and Thin Shavings

Thomas Bunetta wrote:

There are some things we aren't meant to know, Lew... and probably wouldn't
want to.

Maybe the miserable SOB reeeealy had a starving baby at home, or some such
Sh--.
The bleeding hearts among us must have SOME basis in reality for their
spewing.

I'm convinced SoCal has more thieves per sq ft than any other place in
the country.

Must be the weather.

Had my shed ripped open a few years ago and got cleaned out.

Filed a police report after the fact and got to talking to some of the
cops who patrol the harbor, are exposed to the street drug situation as
well as deal with the homeless in my work area.

Didn't make me a cynic.

After all it forced me to upgrade my tools as they were replaced, but it
was quite an eye opener for this old country boy.

These days, I won't go near a pawn shop.

Lew

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 01:26:18 -0400, (C Ferg) wrote:

I am looking to purchase a router and would like some advice. I want a
decent product, but am a public servant, so I cannot afford a
top-of-the-line router. Can someone recommend a decent starter
model/brand for me? I went to a woodworking store and they told me to go
with the high end model, but i don't know if they just wanted to make
money, or were being honest. I know you get what you pay for, but
there's gotta be a decent starter that won't kill my wallet. Any
suggestions would be helpful. Thanks in advance, Ferg

Just a heads-up about this one- my wife got me a $60 Duracraft (Farm
and Fleet store brand) router, the first one I ever got, and I used it
for a while. Sometimes it was great, but it was junk for most things.
It worked pretty well for round-overs and ogees and things of that
nature, but it had no capacity for routing dadoes, keyholes, dovetails
or the like. The biggest problem with the sucker was that had a funny
collet system, where you hold in a button, and tighten the nut with
one wrench- no matter how hard I held it, it never quite got tight
enough, and the bits had a tendancy to walk out of the collet.

After nearly turning my palm into hambuger when a bit walked through a
piece of wood when attempting to route a dado, I went out and got a
Porter-Cable 691 with the D-handle. It was on closeout for something
like $130, and it's a lot of tool for the money- I'd recommend it to
anyone.

The main point of all that is that if you get a cheap one hoping to
save some money, you should plan in advance on paying for not only the
cheap sucker, but also the cost of the tool you maybe should have
gotten in the first place. I figure that PC691 cost me $190 in the
end, rather than the $130 sticker price, as the Duracraft is now in
the corner collecting dust... sometimes it's worth it to wait and save
slowly, unless you absolutely *must* have it for a particular job
right now.

http://community.webtv.net/Ferg_/Fergsoutdoor

Don't go cheap. Look for brands Bosch, Porter Cable, or Makita.

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 01:26:18 -0400, (C Ferg) wrote:

I am looking to purchase a router and would like some advice. I want a
decent product, but am a public servant, so I cannot afford a
top-of-the-line router. Can someone recommend a decent starter
model/brand for me? I went to a woodworking store and they told me to go
with the high end model, but i don't know if they just wanted to make
money, or were being honest. I know you get what you pay for, but
there's gotta be a decent starter that won't kill my wallet. Any
suggestions would be helpful. Thanks in advance, Ferg

http://community.webtv.net/Ferg_/Fergsoutdoor

Can't help you with the model, but as far as routers go, Porter Cable
is the undisputed gold standard among all professionals.

They're not cheap, but they're probably not the most expensive either.

I say "probably" because there's never been any point to looking at
other router brands to compare the prices. You don't need think about
it, you just get one... since it's hard to go wrong.

C Ferg wrote:
I am looking to purchase a router and would like some advice. I want a
decent product, but am a public servant, so I cannot afford a
top-of-the-line router. Can someone recommend a decent starter
model/brand for me? I went to a woodworking store and they told me to go
with the high end model, but i don't know if they just wanted to make
money, or were being honest. I know you get what you pay for, but
there's gotta be a decent starter that won't kill my wallet. Any
suggestions would be helpful. Thanks in advance, Ferg

http://community.webtv.net/Ferg_/Fergsoutdoor

Lew Hodgett wrote:

Jim Behning wrote:


I have gotten some great deals at the pawn shop. I have a nice 1/2"
Bosch fixed base router that I think I paid less than $50 for.

Wonder if the guy, who hocked it after stealing it from some like me,
got enough to buy at least one $10 rock?

Lew
Well that is something sort of in my mind.

Jim B.

I agree - go with a good brand - I'd add DeWalt to the list people have
already started. I got mine (DW618) reconditioned on Amazon - check
them out - stock varies, but there are some good deals sometimes. I
think I'd agree it's better to pay at least $100 for a real brand,
fixed-base router to get started rather than going cheap for a kit by
craftsman/ryobi etc. Definitely go with 1/2" collet.
Also, while we're on the topic of routers on a budget, I built my
router table for about $12 - I bought the dust collection attachment
from Lee Valley and cam levers from Rockler, and collected kitchen
coutertop, 2x4 legs, hardboard, and mdf from people's trash piles on
the street. Got some flat plastic rulers and inlaid them in the top
for fine fence adjustments. Heavy, sturdy, straight, cheap. Plenty of
plans online to get you started.
Overall, be safe and have fun routing!
Andy

As others have commented, the answer depends on what you need to do with the
router.

I started with a low end 1/4in collet fixed speed, and quickly found that
the "saving" was really wasting the $80 I paid for the router. I gave this
one away years ago and never looked back.

Do you need to have a plunge router, or will a fixed base meet your needs?

Most folks would recommend a 1/2in collet. The 1/2in router bits are a
little more expensive, but are more rigid which results in better cuts, in
my view.

I would also look for a "self extracting collet" which means when you
unscrew the collet, it will release the bit. Cheaper models do not have
such collets and you will quickly find out how well a router bit can seem to
be welded to the collet.

I would only consider a variable speed router. The single speed models are
20,000 or more rpm. This is too fast for certain router bits. Buying a
separate speed reducer is more expensive than a variable speed router. The
variable speed models frequently have "soft start" which is a nice-to-have
feature.

Look at the height adjustment mechanism. Many are a coarse screw. Some
have micro adjustment, which I find very useful for the slight adjustments
needed for certain cuts.

I presently use a Bosch 1617EVS in a router table, and a Bosch 1613EVS for
hand held routing. The 1617EVS also is sold as a kit with the fixed base
like the one I have and a plunge base. Bosch also sell this as the 1617
single speed without the variable speed feature.

Dave Paine.

"C Ferg" wrote in message
...
I am looking to purchase a router and would like some advice. I want a
decent product, but am a public servant, so I cannot afford a
top-of-the-line router. Can someone recommend a decent starter
model/brand for me? I went to a woodworking store and they told me to go
with the high end model, but i don't know if they just wanted to make
money, or were being honest. I know you get what you pay for, but
there's gotta be a decent starter that won't kill my wallet. Any
suggestions would be helpful. Thanks in advance, Ferg

http://community.webtv.net/Ferg_/Fergsoutdoor