Has anyone ever measured the decibel rating of their central shop vac? I'm
looking for something that's as quiet as possible, suitable for using in a
room in an apartment. Ideally, I'd be able to use it in the middle of the
night without the neighbours banging on the door. I know that air flow is
going to have it's own decibel rating. That's something I'd deal with after
finding a suitable machine that's reasonably quiet from the get go.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

"Upscale" wrote in message
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Has anyone ever measured the decibel rating of their central shop vac? I'm
looking for something that's as quiet as possible, suitable for using in a
room in an apartment. Ideally, I'd be able to use it in the middle of the
night without the neighbours banging on the door. I know that air flow is
going to have it's own decibel rating. That's something I'd deal with
after
finding a suitable machine that's reasonably quiet from the get go.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

What are you going to be collecting dust from that by itself is quiet enough
to run in an apartment in the middle of the night?

todd

On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 22:03:56 -0400, "Upscale"
wrote:

Has anyone ever measured the decibel rating of their central shop vac? I'm
looking for something that's as quiet as possible, suitable for using in a
room in an apartment. Ideally, I'd be able to use it in the middle of the
night without the neighbours banging on the door. I know that air flow is
going to have it's own decibel rating. That's something I'd deal with after
finding a suitable machine that's reasonably quiet from the get go.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Power machines and apartment life just do not mix. However, I've done
plenty of woodworking in an apartment using hand tools--even then had
to deal with an occasional complaint. My habits eventually forced me
into home ownership--not a bad thing for a woodworker. For an
apartment, a simple shop vac will do. Expect to pay 30% or more for a
quieter model.

Upscale wrote:
Has anyone ever measured the decibel rating of their central shop vac? I'm
looking for something that's as quiet as possible, suitable for using in a
room in an apartment. Ideally, I'd be able to use it in the middle of the
night without the neighbours banging on the door. I know that air flow is
going to have it's own decibel rating. That's something I'd deal with after
finding a suitable machine that's reasonably quiet from the get go.


I can easily carry on a conversation over the noise of my Penn State dust
collector equipped with the optional muffler. I can't do it with my shop vac...
the scream of the vac is just too loud.

http://www.pennstateind.com/Merchant...ry_Code=DC2000

The dust collector by itself is supposed to be 65 db; the muffler is supposed to
reduce it a further 5-10 db.

http://www.pennstateind.com/Merchant...egory_Code=DCA




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

"Todd Fatheree" wrote in message
"Upscale" wrote in message
Has anyone ever measured the decibel rating of their central shop vac?

What are you going to be collecting dust from that by itself is quiet
enough
to run in an apartment in the middle of the night?

Bandsaw.

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message

I can easily carry on a conversation over the noise of my Penn State dust
collector equipped with the optional muffler.

Might be something I could use. Only problem is that it runs on 220v. Don't
know if I could arrange a connection for that in a rented apartment. I'll
have to look into it. Thanks.

"Upscale" wrote:

"Todd Fatheree" wrote in message
"Upscale" wrote in message
Has anyone ever measured the decibel rating of their central shop vac?

What are you going to be collecting dust from that by itself is quiet
enough
to run in an apartment in the middle of the night?

Bandsaw.

My Jet 650 with cartidge filter measured 68 db A weighted this morning
in the basement. My basement is 30x36 stud wall with insulation on 2
outside walls, concrete on the other 2. Much stuff in the basement.
Accoustically the basement is not as live as my living room which has
hardwood flooors and a high sloping ceiling. I mention this trivial
because the acoustics of the room and the construction/framing affect
what the neighbors will hear. The dust collector makes a lot of noise
in relatively low frequencies compared to the noises the bandsaw makes
when cutting hardwood.

Jim B.

"Jim Behning" wrote in message

hardwood flooors and a high sloping ceiling. I mention this trivial
because the acoustics of the room and the construction/framing affect
what the neighbors will hear. The dust collector makes a lot of noise
in relatively low frequencies compared to the noises the bandsaw makes
when cutting hardwood.

Yeah. It seems that everywhere I turn, I'm facing difficulties. This living
in an apartment is literally driving me nuts for the single reason that I
can't do the woodworking I'd really like to do. What I'd really like is to
set up my tablesaw somewhere, but the bandsaw would do for a usable second
choice. It might be that the only real relief I'm going to get is to rent
some small floor space in a manufacturing or business environment. But, that
has it's attendant problems too.

The "Caddy" of shop vacs: (hold your wallet before looking at this)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...&s=hi&n=507846

57 db....



Upscale wrote:
Has anyone ever measured the decibel rating of their central shop vac? I'm
looking for something that's as quiet as possible, suitable for using in a
room in an apartment. Ideally, I'd be able to use it in the middle of the
night without the neighbours banging on the door. I know that air flow is
going to have it's own decibel rating. That's something I'd deal with after
finding a suitable machine that's reasonably quiet from the get go.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Upscale wrote:
I can easily carry on a conversation over the noise of my Penn State dust
collector equipped with the optional muffler.

Might be something I could use. Only problem is that it runs on 220v. Don't
know if I could arrange a connection for that in a rented apartment. I'll
have to look into it. Thanks.

Try this one then:

http://www.pennstateind.com/Merchant...egory_Code=DC2

Although the web site doesn't say, the draw is 16 amps at 110V, and the noise
level is 67db. I just called them to ask if your interested in my source. The
muffler I posted before will fit it as well and have the same effect.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message

http://www.pennstateind.com/Merchant...egory_Code=DC2

Although the web site doesn't say, the draw is 16 amps at 110V, and the
noise
level is 67db. I just called them to ask if your interested in my source.
The
muffler I posted before will fit it as well and have the same effect.

Thanks. My next step is to approximate a few noises at approximately that
decibel level to see it it's going to be too irritating for the neighbours.

Upscale wrote:
Although the web site doesn't say, the draw is 16 amps at 110V, and the noise
level is 67db. I just called them to ask if your interested in my source.
The muffler I posted before will fit it as well and have the same effect.

Thanks. My next step is to approximate a few noises at approximately that
decibel level to see it it's going to be too irritating for the neighbours.


Here's a pretty good page to look at to get an idea of what X number of decibels
represent:

http://www.lhh.org/noise/decibel.htm



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

I run my bandsaw with no dust colletion and just sweep up after. Of
course this is in the shop environment. Could you just vacum in the
morning?

I found an exhaust silencer for my 10 yr old ShopVac a few years ago,
which civilizes it to about the level of the current quieter ShopVacs.
Might even be quieter. Neighbors like it.

HTH,
J

"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in
oups.com:

I run my bandsaw with no dust collection and just sweep up after. Of
course this is in the shop environment. Could you just vacum in the
morning?


Several years ago, I helped a neighbor build a table for his wife. After
the lamination of the maple, I loaned him my best plane at the time, a
Stanley Handyman #4, and he took everything home to his apartment to work
on the top.

Tiring of the miserable job of hand flattening the top with the wrong tool,
and a bad one at that, clamped to the dinner table, I found that he was
using a belt sander, in the dining room. Running the vacuum was the least
of his worries before his wife got home. ;-)

The project turned out OK, though.

Patriarch

"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message
I run my bandsaw with no dust colletion and just sweep up after. Of
course this is in the shop environment. Could you just vacum in the
morning?

Possibly. My experience with wood dust though is that it manages to get
everywhere and be tracked everywhere unless properly controlled. In an
attempt to head that off, I'm thinking that catching most of it right from
the bandsaw would be easier than vacuuming a wider area of floor space.

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
Try this one then:

http://www.pennstateind.com/Merchant...egory_Code=DC2

I contacted Penn State support for a dealer in or near Toronto, Canada and
they've given me
Kidder Manufacturing
39 Glen Cameron Rd Unit 3
Thornhill, Ontario, Canada
Phone# 1 800 263 3556

Thanks.

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 12:34:35 -0400, "Upscale" wrote:

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message

http://www.pennstateind.com/Merchant...egory_Code=DC2

Although the web site doesn't say, the draw is 16 amps at 110V, and the
noise
level is 67db. I just called them to ask if your interested in my source.
The
muffler I posted before will fit it as well and have the same effect.

Thanks. My next step is to approximate a few noises at approximately that
decibel level to see it it's going to be too irritating for the neighbours.

Maybe you could get a neighbor or 2 interested in woodworking?
Kind of like inviting all the neighbors to a party... most won't come, but the
one's that don't come won't complain about the noise..


mac

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"Upscale" wrote:

Has anyone ever measured the decibel rating of their central shop vac? I'm
looking for something that's as quiet as possible, suitable for using in a
room in an apartment. Ideally, I'd be able to use it in the middle of the
night without the neighbours banging on the door. I know that air flow is
going to have it's own decibel rating. That's something I'd deal with after
finding a suitable machine that's reasonably quiet from the get go.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Pat Barber wrote:

The "Caddy" of shop vacs: (hold your wallet before looking at this)

Pat is right...I own a Fein Turbo II and it is indeed very quiet. I
bought if for another reason... it really sucks. Plus you can buy all
the filter bags etc. to get true HEPA performance without hindering the
airflow.
The cooling of the motor is done by a separate fan (a by-pass system) so
even if the thing gets plugged, it won't overheat.

I bought mine from Federated Tool in London ON... ask for David
Eisan..IF he isn't busy running from Godzilla *G*
You won't be paying list price.

I actually pet mine and keep it all shiny.
Damn..I love a good tool.

BTW..it mates perfectly with the Festool Rotex sander for absolutely
dust-free sanding.

About the bandsaw... if you have neighbours under you, you'll want to
isolate the vibration from the band-saw to the floor. One of my jobs
when I was working for Mother Hydro, was to develop and design
sound-proof quarters for the operators. If it is an issue, I can give
you some tips.

"Robatoy" wrote in message news:design-

Pat is right...I own a Fein Turbo II and it is indeed very quiet. I
bought if for another reason... it really sucks. Plus you can buy all
the filter bags etc. to get true HEPA performance without hindering the
airflow.

Have you by chance used an adapter to hook up a 4" hose to it? I'm wondering
how effective the air flow is when converted to the larger hose size?

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"Upscale" wrote:

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message

I can easily carry on a conversation over the noise of my Penn State dust
collector equipped with the optional muffler.

Might be something I could use. Only problem is that it runs on 220v. Don't
know if I could arrange a connection for that in a rented apartment. I'll
have to look into it. Thanks.

Is your stove electric? Dryer?

"Robatoy" wrote in message news:design-

Might be something I could use. Only problem is that it runs on 220v.
Don't
know if I could arrange a connection for that in a rented apartment. I

Is your stove electric? Dryer?

All electric, so the power's there, just haven't actually looked into
transferring some of it to another room. However, at this time it's all
conjecture. I'm in a single bedroom apartment at this point. While finding
and renting an affordable wheelchair accessible workspace outside the where
I live so far has been close to impossible, moving to a two bedroom
apartment is well within the bounds of possibility. One step at a time.