Howdy all-

So it has come to be known that I will be the lucky recipient of a new
piece of gear. The quandry is that I'm torn between getting a 14" bandsaw
(most lokely the Grizz G0580) or getting a drill press. Not sure which way
to go. So for the folks out here that have both: what is your
reccomendation as far as which is more indispensable? Sure, I've already
got a couple of handheld drills, and a jigsaw, so the basics are covered.
I'm leaning toward the bandsaw, it could exponentially increase my
production of pukey ducks. Just looking for a sanity check I guess.

TIA-
~Rob

"Rob Sluys" wrote in message
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Howdy all-

So it has come to be known that I will be the lucky recipient of a new
piece of gear. The quandry is that I'm torn between getting a 14" bandsaw
(most lokely the Grizz G0580) or getting a drill press. Not sure which
way
to go. So for the folks out here that have both: what is your
reccomendation as far as which is more indispensable?


Tough call. I got the DP first for two reasons. I had a project to do that
would be simplified compared to a hand drill, and it was $179 instead of the
$600 for a bandsaw. If you have the cash for a BS now, get it and worry
about getting a DP later. You won't have to wait as long.

You better save up a 100 more dollars and get the G0555. You never be sorry
you did!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You'll be set for life.


"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
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"Rob Sluys" wrote in message
...
Howdy all-

So it has come to be known that I will be the lucky recipient of a new
piece of gear. The quandry is that I'm torn between getting a 14"
bandsaw
(most lokely the Grizz G0580) or getting a drill press. Not sure which
way
to go. So for the folks out here that have both: what is your
reccomendation as far as which is more indispensable?


Tough call. I got the DP first for two reasons. I had a project to do
that
would be simplified compared to a hand drill, and it was $179 instead of
the
$600 for a bandsaw. If you have the cash for a BS now, get it and worry
about getting a DP later. You won't have to wait as long.

Rob Sluys wrote:
Howdy all-

So it has come to be known that I will be the lucky recipient of a new
piece of gear. The quandry is that I'm torn between getting a 14" bandsaw
(most lokely the Grizz G0580) or getting a drill press. Not sure which way
to go. So for the folks out here that have both: what is your
reccomendation as far as which is more indispensable? Sure, I've already
got a couple of handheld drills, and a jigsaw, so the basics are covered.
I'm leaning toward the bandsaw, it could exponentially increase my
production of pukey ducks. Just looking for a sanity check I guess.

TIA-
~Rob

I got the drill press first because one can drill precise holes, chuck
small sanding drums, router bits, etc. Also I already had a scroll saw
(nee jig saw) which did all the fancy cuts I needed at the time.
mahalo,
jo4hn

We don't know what you do; so how could we tell you which tool you need
more.

Drill presses are obviously cheaper, and I personally use it much more than
I use a bandsaw; so I would chose a drill press. I expect other people use
a bandsaw daily.

"Rob Sluys" wrote in message
...
Howdy all-

So it has come to be known that I will be the lucky recipient of a new
piece of gear. The quandry is that I'm torn between getting a 14" bandsaw
(most lokely the Grizz G0580) or getting a drill press. Not sure which
way
to go. So for the folks out here that have both: what is your
reccomendation as far as which is more indispensable? Sure, I've already
got a couple of handheld drills, and a jigsaw, so the basics are covered.
I'm leaning toward the bandsaw, it could exponentially increase my
production of pukey ducks. Just looking for a sanity check I guess.

TIA-
~Rob

Bandsaw. Not even close

I agree with Jim. I have both, and need both. But I use the bandsaw in
every project I undertake, the drill press I use in about half, but I
got along fine without it.

Get the bandsaw.

Andrew

Rob Sluys wrote:
Howdy all-

So it has come to be known that I will be the lucky recipient of a new
piece of gear. The quandry is that I'm torn between getting a 14"
bandsaw (most lokely the Grizz G0580) or getting a drill press. Not
sure which way to go. So for the folks out here that have both: what
is your reccomendation as far as which is more indispensable?

Bandsaw. Curves...resawing...ripping...

Drill press is nice but I could get along without one with no problem.
Not so my bandsaw...not after haveing one.

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If you're going to be drilling metal, definitely get the drill press. If
you're only going to be drilling wood, your hand-drill will do just fine so
I would get the bandsaw.

"Rob Sluys" wrote in message
...
Howdy all-

So it has come to be known that I will be the lucky recipient of a new
piece of gear. The quandry is that I'm torn between getting a 14" bandsaw
(most lokely the Grizz G0580) or getting a drill press. Not sure which
way
to go. So for the folks out here that have both: what is your
reccomendation as far as which is more indispensable? Sure, I've already
got a couple of handheld drills, and a jigsaw, so the basics are covered.
I'm leaning toward the bandsaw, it could exponentially increase my
production of pukey ducks. Just looking for a sanity check I guess.

TIA-
~Rob

On Sun, 22 May 2005 09:42:35 -0500, Rob Sluys
wrote:

Howdy all-

So it has come to be known that I will be the lucky recipient of a new
piece of gear. The quandry is that I'm torn between getting a 14" bandsaw
(most lokely the Grizz G0580) or getting a drill press. Not sure which way
to go. So for the folks out here that have both: what is your
reccomendation as far as which is more indispensable? Sure, I've already
got a couple of handheld drills, and a jigsaw, so the basics are covered.
I'm leaning toward the bandsaw, it could exponentially increase my
production of pukey ducks. Just looking for a sanity check I guess.

TIA-
~Rob
======================
I have not yet read the replies that you already have received...BUT
WILL...

I vote for a floor model drill press ... I can not remember which I
purchased first..(been 30 years or so)...But I use one of my THREE
DRILL PRESSES much more then I use my ONE bandsaw...

Your requirements may be completely different then mine...I would hate
to be without either...but I WOULD NOT give up my l drill press...

Lots of luck...

Bob Griffiths

Rob Sluys wrote:
Howdy all-

So it has come to be known that I will be the lucky recipient of a new
piece of gear. The quandry is that I'm torn between getting a 14" bandsaw
(most lokely the Grizz G0580) or getting a drill press. Not sure which way
to go. So for the folks out here that have both: what is your
reccomendation as far as which is more indispensable?


Bandsaw. No question. I own both but there are things that are easiest done on
the bandsaw. I can make do without my drill press most of the time by using a
cordless drill.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

I would get the drill press first for a couple of reasons. First, the
difference in accuracy between the jigsaw and the bandsaw is not
anywhere as huge as the difference between handheld and drill press.
With both saws, you are hand-guiding the work through the saw. In a
drill, the orientation is controlled in the DP where it is nonexistent
in the hand drill. Secondly, there is a much wider range of
attachments available for the drill press. I have a mortiser
attachment which I use almost as often as the straight drill. Finally,
the difference in price is very significant. I have the Ryobi 12"
benchtop drill press and use a MSC horizontal/vertical bandsaw and a
Delta 3 wheel benchtop bandsaw. The bandsaws costed about $200 for
these relatively small units, and you are looking at a 14" model around
$500-600. My drill press cost $150 for a fairly good model. Hope this
advice helps.

"toller" wrote:

We don't know what you do; so how could we tell you which tool you need
more.

Exactomundo! OP: You've got the "basic function" of each tool covered
with handheld power tools. Which do you use more in a situation in
which a stationary tool would be preferable? And for functions not
covered by the handheld tools, who often do you want to drill
precisely registered holes, or use other tools that can be safely
chucked into a DP, but not in your handheld, vs. how often you want to
resaw or cut very thick stock?

Drill presses are obviously cheaper, and I personally use it much more than
I use a bandsaw; so I would chose a drill press. I expect other people use
a bandsaw daily.
I fall into that camp--not close for me, but as you said, what is more
valuable to you or me is kinda irrelevant.


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On Sun, 22 May 2005 09:42:35 -0500, Rob Sluys
wrote:

Howdy all-

So it has come to be known that I will be the lucky recipient of a new
piece of gear. The quandry is that I'm torn between getting a 14" bandsaw
(most lokely the Grizz G0580) or getting a drill press. Not sure which way
to go. So for the folks out here that have both: what is your
reccomendation as far as which is more indispensable? Sure, I've already
got a couple of handheld drills, and a jigsaw, so the basics are covered.
I'm leaning toward the bandsaw, it could exponentially increase my
production of pukey ducks. Just looking for a sanity check I guess.

TIA-
~Rob

I really thing that it depends on what kind of stuff you do a lot of..
If I'm turning wood, (most of the time), I use the band saw every day..

If I'm working flat wood, I don't use the band saw much, but rely heavily on the
drill press for "pre-drilling" screw holes, general drilling and drum sanding..

Actually, looking back over the years, I never really felt the need for a band
saw until I got into the "mass turnings" addiction.. *g*



mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

But, if you can spring for it, a bandsaw is one of the 5 central tools a
woodworker needs (David Marks) and you will find all kinds of uses. It is
really nice to be able to saw without concern about kickback.

Steve

wrote in message
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if it's a given dollar amount you'll get a better grade of drill press
than bandsaw. I'd rather have a decent drill press than a cheezy
bandsaw.

if it's a given dollar amount you'll get a better grade of drill press
than bandsaw. I'd rather have a decent drill press than a cheezy
bandsaw.

On Tue, 24 May 2005 00:22:39 GMT, "Steve Peterson"
wrote:

But, if you can spring for it, a bandsaw is one of the 5 central tools a
woodworker needs (David Marks) and you will find all kinds of uses. It is
really nice to be able to saw without concern about kickback.

Steve

=====================
Steve,: I am just curious...

Dumb question on my part because all woodworkers should be aware of
the possibility of kickback......BUT are you really "that" concerned
about kickback ?

Maybe in my deep subconscious mind the work "kickback" is triggered
when I am reaching for the power button on a piece of equipment.. but
that word really never comes to my conscious mind ...

Bob Griffiths

I've had a drill press for about a dozen years. About a year ago I finally
got a bandsaw. Both are great. Today, I would not like to be without either.

After some thought I have come up with one justification for drill press
before bandsaw which has not yet been brought up.

The two bandsaw tasks that are really tough to do via other methods are tall
resaws and curves in thick stock. These are both operations which start to
come into play on more advanced projects. By contrast, the things that a
drill press are good at that are tough to work around are precision boring
with big bits. (for instance using a 35mm forstner bit to bore the recess
for a cabinet hinge.

If you buy the notion that as we evolve as woodworkers we gravitate from
simple (flat, square, 1-by stock) projects to more complicated (rough stock,
variable thickness, more curves). The need for drill press operations comes
into the picture earlier in this evolution.

-Steve



"Rob Sluys" wrote in message
...
Howdy all-

So it has come to be known that I will be the lucky recipient of a new
piece of gear. The quandry is that I'm torn between getting a 14" bandsaw
(most lokely the Grizz G0580) or getting a drill press. Not sure which
way
to go. So for the folks out here that have both: what is your
reccomendation as far as which is more indispensable? Sure, I've already
got a couple of handheld drills, and a jigsaw, so the basics are covered.
I'm leaning toward the bandsaw, it could exponentially increase my
production of pukey ducks. Just looking for a sanity check I guess.

TIA-
~Rob

Well, I don't have a table saw, and my other option is using my RAS to rip.
I made an auxilliary fence that attaches at right angles to the normal
fence, and can be adjusted by sliding to the correct distance for the width
of the piece. With this, I can safely rip a board up to about 30 inches
long, by flipping it end for end. For something longer, I prefer to use the
bandsaw rather than push the board under that spinning blade that wants to
lift the board and fire it back. I make sure to stand to the side if I do
that, and I have had some impressive kickbacks. Since I got my bandsaw,
that is my method of choice and safety.

I would like a cabinet saw, but they are such space hogs!

Steve


"Bob G." wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 May 2005 00:22:39 GMT, "Steve Peterson"
wrote:

But, if you can spring for it, a bandsaw is one of the 5 central tools a
woodworker needs (David Marks) and you will find all kinds of uses. It is
really nice to be able to saw without concern about kickback.

Steve

=====================
Steve,: I am just curious...

Dumb question on my part because all woodworkers should be aware of
the possibility of kickback......BUT are you really "that" concerned
about kickback ?

Maybe in my deep subconscious mind the work "kickback" is triggered
when I am reaching for the power button on a piece of equipment.. but
that word really never comes to my conscious mind ...

Bob Griffiths

On Tue, 24 May 2005 16:45:00 GMT, "Steve Peterson"
wrote:

Well, I don't have a table saw, and my other option is using my RAS to rip.
I made an auxilliary fence that attaches at right angles to the normal
fence, and can be adjusted by sliding to the correct distance for the width
of the piece. With this, I can safely rip a board up to about 30 inches
long, by flipping it end for end. For something longer, I prefer to use the
bandsaw rather than push the board under that spinning blade that wants to
lift the board and fire it back. I make sure to stand to the side if I do
that, and I have had some impressive kickbacks. Since I got my bandsaw,
that is my method of choice and safety.

I would like a cabinet saw, but they are such space hogs!

Steve

=============================
Fair enough .... I was NOT ragging on you...not at all... I was just
curious and when you mentioned RAS I honestly understood ..

I have one.. BUT the darn thing has not moved off of a 90 degree
cut in the last 25 or so years... LOL

IF I HAD to use my RAS for ripping then I would have to have a good
supply of toilet paper in the shop...and Yea...in that case I also
would be concerned about kickbacks....

I do have both a Cabinet Saw and a Contractors Saw in my shop...
both work much better then my bandsaw for ripping ...But I do
understand the space issue... after 40 plus years in this hobby my
shop is a heck of a lot smaller today then it was originally...

Enjoy
Bob

The drill press makes a handy place to put a cuppa while I'm doing
actual work on the bandsaw.

BTDT

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The drill press makes a handy place to put a cuppa while I'm doing
actual work on the bandsaw.