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Box joint question?
Any recommendations on whether to use a dado blade/tablesaw or a
router/table to make box joints. Would one method have smoother cuts over the other. I will have to build a jig no mater which method I use. Thanks Ron |
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:20:58 -0400, "Ron Stitt"
wrote: Any recommendations on whether to use a dado blade/tablesaw or a router/table to make box joints. Depends on the height (length of joint). The router table jigs (Incra) are unhappy and unstable for long joints. A table saw jig can be, if you make it so. A router jig for a hand-held router is equally stable, up to the length of the jig. For quantity production, I'd use the tablesaw. For a one-off, I might choose a hand-held router over a finger jig. I wouldn't use a movable fence on a router table. |
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I've used both methods, and I can't really say that one way is better than
the other. Some woods, especially the harder woods seem to cut a little better with the router, but this doesn't always seem to be true. Using a fresh un-cut backing board to reduce the chip-out is the best way to get a clean cut no matter which method that you use. -- Charley "Ron Stitt" wrote in message news:1113229277.725c1410a769dc6452b892ecb5373de1@t eranews... Any recommendations on whether to use a dado blade/tablesaw or a router/table to make box joints. Would one method have smoother cuts over the other. I will have to build a jig no mater which method I use. Thanks Ron |
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Ron Stitt wrote:
Any recommendations on whether to use a dado blade/tablesaw or a router/table to make box joints. Would one method have smoother cuts over the other. How big, how many? Keep in mind that router bits are really meant for *trimming*, not hogging out gobs of wood. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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"Ron Stitt" wrote in message news:1113229277.725c1410a769dc6452b892ecb5373de1@t eranews... Any recommendations on whether to use a dado blade/tablesaw or a router/table to make box joints. Would one method have smoother cuts over the other. I will have to build a jig no mater which method I use. Router table, straddle jig. Works up quickly, cuts beautifully, and with a bit of right-angle help can do 22 inch deep drawers like it did this weekend in my basement. With a spiral bit and a push block, the cuts are clean as a whistle. As you can see, they're not complicated. Buy or build. Got mine as a gift, built for the school, and other than slick, no difference. http://us.oak-park.com/catalogue.html?list=boxj-- |
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Any of these methods work well. I'd prefer using a dado blade. The
jig is very easy to build. Test it out before using good wood. On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:20:58 -0400, "Ron Stitt" wrote: Any recommendations on whether to use a dado blade/tablesaw or a router/table to make box joints. Would one method have smoother cuts over the other. I will have to build a jig no mater which method I use. Thanks Ron |
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dadiOH wrote:
How big, how many? Keep in mind that router bits are really meant for *trimming*, not hogging out gobs of wood. You don't mortise or dado with a router? There are some pretty hefty hogging bits available. Barry |
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I would say it depends on:
a) the size of the fingers and the thickness of the stock b) how flat-bottomed a cut your dado stack makes A dado will work better (quicker) for bigger (1/2"+) fingers - I wouldn't try to hog out 1/2" x 3/4" sockets on one pass with the router, but a dado can do that easily. OTOH, a router bit will cut very flat and square sockets. In either case, a backer board will control tear-out. I think a micro-adjustable fixture is a really good idea when using a dado setup. There are pictures of my favorite box-joint fixture (near bottom of page) at http://home.san.rr.com/jeffnann/Wood...odWorking.html -- JeffB remove no.spam. to email Ron Stitt wrote: Any recommendations on whether to use a dado blade/tablesaw or a router/table to make box joints. Would one method have smoother cuts over the other. I will have to build a jig no mater which method I use. Thanks Ron |
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Phisherman wrote:
Any of these methods work well. I'd prefer using a dado blade. The jig is very easy to build. Test it out before using good wood. On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:20:58 -0400, "Ron Stitt" wrote: Any recommendations on whether to use a dado blade/tablesaw or a router/table to make box joints. Would one method have smoother cuts over the other. I will have to build a jig no mater which method I use. Thanks Ron I'll second the testing part. I just did a rough drawer using 1/4 inch fingers. I'll do 1/2 inch fingers on rough work next time.... Anyway -- the test pieces looked pretty awful, but I analyzed them, reset my brain and the drawers cut out just fine... The Complete Book of Wood Joinery by deCristoforo (ISBN 0-8069-9950-0) has the jig on page 126 - I adapted it for the Ryobi BT3000SX table saw which has a sliding miter table -- which makes the jig a little simpler. I used a clamp on the wood to make sure it did not shift as 1/4 inch fingers can accumulate lots of error across a few inches of cut-outs. On a 3 " height carcase, Just 1/32 error can give you 12 * (1/32) if the errors go the "wrong" way. So mark where the cuts should go and analyze and problems after a test joint. -- Will Occasional Techno-geek |
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B a r r y wrote:
dadiOH wrote: How big, how many? Keep in mind that router bits are really meant for *trimming*, not hogging out gobs of wood. You don't mortise or dado with a router? Sure I do. But as much as possible I use a saw to make dados and grooves a skosh narrow, following up with a router. There are some pretty hefty hogging bits available. There sure are. And they are handy. Doesn't change the fact that a router is basically a trimming tool and that there are lateral forces on a bit that don't exist on a saw. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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