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Major kitchen cabinet install gap problem? (w/pics)
"David F. Eisan" wrote in message ... Hello everyone, I made the mistake of installing all my cabinets level and true in a kitchen that is anything but. Any ideas how to fill the gap? Somehow I don't think caulk and paint is the answer. Neither is fixing the ceiling an option. I can see two options , rehang the cabinets lower and put crown molding up to cover the gap. Or, cut some filler strips for the cabinet set on the right of the window to flush the tops with the alcove ceiling, then put up bead board over the wall above the whole length of the cabinets, cut so it fits to level out the bottom line. The side of the cabinets by the window could have a short thin piece of trim matching on each side, then a valence across the front of the window area between the two sets of cabinets to direct the eye away from that, Probably could use a piece of crown spanning between the two sets of cabinets and under the bead board across the wall, making a flush line wall to wall. Round over the edge of the bead board on the bottom? or leave square Paint it all white, The vertical pattern should visually hide the error. Chuck |
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I made the mistake of installing all my cabinets level and true in a kitchen that is anything but. The old cabinets were pushed flush with the ceiling and had quarter round between them and the ceiling. Things rolled around in the old cabinets. I now have the dilemma of how to fix this random gap between the tops of my cabinets and the ceiling. In some places the cabinets touch the ceiling and in other places there is a 3/4" gap. The face frame exposure above the doors is about 7/8". Hindsight tells me I should have figured out the difference in level in the ceiling and made the face frames and side panels large enough to allow for scribing. Any ideas how to fill the gap? Somehow I don't think caulk and paint is the answer. Neither is fixing the ceiling an option. I am trying to think of some sort of trim design/style that I can put up there to fix things that won't look all stupid being made of various widths. I was thinking of making some sort of trim starting with a min height of 1/2" where the cabinets are flush, expanding to 1-1/4" at the worst gap. Add to this the fact that I deliberately made the face frame sides proud of the side panels, and that issue needs to be dealt with (mitre, mitre, mitre, another mitre, mitre, mitre, another mitre....). I am thinking 1/2" trim with maybe a 3/8" quarter round with bead on both sides to mimic the doors. In order to do this with speed. I would prepaint the trim, scribe it and hang it with 23g pins To make matters worse, time is seriously of the essence. I take possession of my new house in a little over three weeks and I really need to get this done ASAP! Finishing the kitchen is one of the many jobs that needed to be done last month . HELP! David |
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"David F. Eisan" wrote: Any ideas how to fill the gap? Somehow I don't think caulk and paint is the answer. Neither is fixing the ceiling an option. Having skipped the "scribe" option, which looks dumb anyway on something this far out of whack (you can see that there's 1/2 inch from this door to the ceiling, and 1 inch over there...I have a kitchen with this method, and it just screams "ceiling out of whack") there are a couple that come to mind. If the lowered section of ceiling matches the cabinets pretty well (difficult to be sure form the pictures) then skip the caulk and go right to spackle, or even chunks of drywall, and spackle, and paint. If that's a no-go, then you need a trim-chunk on the cabinets to match the lowered section of ceiling, and a chunk of overlayed trim to cover the sins - which need not be fancy crown molding - given what I can see of the woodwork, a simple board with perhaps the corners beveled would be a reasonable molding. So you have the level trim on cabinet to bring the face flush with the lowered section of ceiling, and then the level molding layed on top of that, wide enough to hide the gap. -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by |
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David F. Eisan wrote:
Hello everyone, I made the mistake of installing all my cabinets level and true in a kitchen that is anything but. The old cabinets were pushed flush with the ceiling and had quarter round between them and the ceiling. Things rolled around in the old cabinets. I now have the dilemma of how to fix this random gap between the tops of my cabinets and the ceiling. In some places the cabinets touch the ceiling and in other places there is a 3/4" gap. The face frame exposure above the doors is about 7/8". Hindsight tells me I should have figured out the difference in level in the ceiling and made the face frames and side panels large enough to allow for scribing. Any ideas how to fill the gap? Somehow I don't think caulk and paint is the answer. Neither is fixing the ceiling an option. I am trying to think of some sort of trim design/style that I can put up there to fix things that won't look all stupid being made of various widths. I was thinking of making some sort of trim starting with a min height of 1/2" where the cabinets are flush, expanding to 1-1/4" at the worst gap. Add to this the fact that I deliberately made the face frame sides proud of the side panels, and that issue needs to be dealt with (mitre, mitre, mitre, another mitre, mitre, mitre, another mitre....). I am thinking 1/2" trim with maybe a 3/8" quarter round with bead on both sides to mimic the doors. In order to do this with speed. I would prepaint the trim, scribe it and hang it with 23g pins To make matters worse, time is seriously of the essence. I take possession of my new house in a little over three weeks and I really need to get this done ASAP! Finishing the kitchen is one of the many jobs that needed to be done last month . HELP! David I used to sell kitchen cabinets, and in my experience talking to installers, your gaps are not unusual. AAMOF, it was pretty much the same in my house when we redid the kitchen a year or so ago. Generally, just a thin, flat molding is used around the tops of the cabinets, If you try to get too fancy, you will accentuate the problem by drawing attention to it. Here is the good news and the bad news: The bad news is no matter what you do, YOU will always notice this problem. The good news is that as long as you cover up the gaps unobtrusively, no one else will. |
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"David F. Eisan" wrote in message ... Hello everyone, I made the mistake of installing all my cabinets level and true in a kitchen that is anything but. That's not a mistake, it's the way to do it. [...] Somehow I don't think caulk and paint is the answer.[...] Actually that is the answer. You will need to infill with wood, but not too carefully, best to have about a quarter inch gap between the wood infill and the masonry. Then squeeze acrylic caulk into the gap, smooth off with a damp cloth and paint with the wall colour. Use masking tape to keep the caulk off the cabinets. That is absolutely the best practice, least visible, no gaps, no joins, no extra lines or trims or mitres: tidy, quick and easy. Tim W |
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Hi David...
Looks like the same jackass that built our house, built yours. What they did in our place, and it actually looks pretty good, was a cove type molding under the soffit and it did a very nice job of hiding the mess they left. We are in the process of refinishing ours now.. cheap and ugly but could not afford to replace them so we are *ehm* customizing them to match an old sideboard we have recently loved back into life and our dining room table. I'll try to get you a photo when we get the molding put back up. Kate |
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On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:45:28 -0500, "Kate" wrote:
Hi David... Looks like the same jackass that built our house, built yours. That jackass gets around. 8^) I recently had a carpeted pine staircase replaced with solid red oak. Fortunately, I hired a real stairbuilder, not someone who tried to shim in a premade staircase (_I_ can do that!). The steps in the center of the staircase were a full 1" wider than the ends, due to a major bow in the wall. The stair case looks great, but the bow is unreal. |
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"David F. Eisan" wrote in message ... Hello everyone, I made the mistake of installing all my cabinets level and true in a kitchen that is anything but. The old cabinets were pushed flush with the ceiling and had quarter round between them and the ceiling. Things rolled around in the old cabinets. I now have the dilemma of how to fix this random gap between the tops of my cabinets and the ceiling. In some places the cabinets touch the ceiling and in other places there is a 3/4" gap. The face frame exposure above the doors is about 7/8". Hindsight tells me I should have figured out the difference in level in the ceiling and made the face frames and side panels large enough to allow for scribing. Any ideas how to fill the gap? Somehow I don't think caulk and paint is the answer. Neither is fixing the ceiling an option. I am trying to think of some sort of trim design/style that I can put up there to fix things that won't look all stupid being made of various widths. I was thinking of making some sort of trim starting with a min height of 1/2" where the cabinets are flush, expanding to 1-1/4" at the worst gap. Add to this the fact that I deliberately made the face frame sides proud of the side panels, and that issue needs to be dealt with (mitre, mitre, mitre, another mitre, mitre, mitre, another mitre....). I am thinking 1/2" trim with maybe a 3/8" quarter round with bead on both sides to mimic the doors. In order to do this with speed. I would prepaint the trim, scribe it and hang it with 23g pins To make matters worse, time is seriously of the essence. I take possession of my new house in a little over three weeks and I really need to get this done ASAP! Finishing the kitchen is one of the many jobs that needed to be done last month . HELP! David |
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"B a r r y" wrote in message ... On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:45:28 -0500, "Kate" wrote: Hi David... Looks like the same jackass that built our house, built yours. That jackass gets around. 8^) I recently had a carpeted pine staircase replaced with solid red oak. Fortunately, I hired a real stairbuilder, not someone who tried to shim in a premade staircase (_I_ can do that!). The steps in the center of the staircase were a full 1" wider than the ends, due to a major bow in the wall. The stair case looks great, but the bow is unreal. ** Dang! I can sure relate, this house has so many things out of square that sometimes it beings to mind the old rhyme: There was a crooked man who had a crooked house He had a crooked cat who ate a crooked house..... and so on. Kate One crooked house, two crooked cats LOL |
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