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Air Compressor
Hello folks, need some advise. I want to get a small compressor to blow
air out of my turnings and use a small air sander. I have seen a Porter Cable pancake one that comes with a brad nailer. It has received good reviews for use with nailers but nothing about continuous/short burst use. My wife will also use it when with a mini air grinder for her scrollsaw/intarsia stuff.. Any advise will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Guy |
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Sanders and grinders have a high air requirement. Either a fast compressor
or a large tank, with good sense favoring the combination. I use a tube and the lungs to clear insides of turnings, though my 20gallon will do a couple/three minutes of air grinder before it starts to slow. No way a 3-4gal pancake is going to do it. wrote in message oups.com... Hello folks, need some advise. I want to get a small compressor to blow air out of my turnings and use a small air sander. I have seen a Porter Cable pancake one that comes with a brad nailer. It has received good reviews for use with nailers but nothing about continuous/short burst use. My wife will also use it when with a mini air grinder for her scrollsaw/intarsia stuff.. Any advise will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Guy |
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For about $379, you can get an upright compressor from Home Depot or Lowe's
(made by Campbell-Hausfield) with a 60 gallon tank. It's rated for 6 HP, but it's probably more like 2 or 3 actual HP. The pancake compressors are just so cute! I looked at several this past summer and was very tempted to buy one. I was looking at a Dewalt/Emglo for about $329. For about $50 more, I got a real compressor that will handle most anything I want it to do, spray finish and run most air tools. I use a blow gun a lot to clear chips off my lathe or to clear hollow turnings. My compressor runs only occasionally. Much better than one of the little ones kicking on every time I use the blowgun. The small portable/pancake/stack tank models are primarily intended to power brad guns and nail guns and they do that very well. For much else, you need a bigger compressor. If you are using a mini air grinder, similar to a dental drill, a small compressor could be enough. Just check the tool's air consumption requirements and buy the compressor that you need. It's not a real problem to buy more compressor than you need, but the reverse of that can be a real pain. Barry wrote in message oups.com... Hello folks, need some advise. I want to get a small compressor to blow air out of my turnings and use a small air sander. I have seen a Porter Cable pancake one that comes with a brad nailer. It has received good reviews for use with nailers but nothing about continuous/short burst use. My wife will also use it when with a mini air grinder for her scrollsaw/intarsia stuff.. Any advise will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Guy |
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The Husky brand sold by Home Deopt is made by DeVilbiss, which is OK in
my book. Which is why that's what I got. 800+ sq ft of wood flooring later, I'm still happy with it. Got the 25 gal upright, with the accessory kit for under $300. John Maker of Fine Wood Chips and Sawdust |
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I got the Husky brand alright, but I'm almost positive mine is made by
Campbell-Hausfield. Their factory is in Leitchfield, KY, about 50 miles away from me. Mine is red. The exact same compressor is sold by Lowe's, but it is blue. I think perhaps one manufacturer will make compressors for several different brands. I looked at a Porter Cable, not sure who makes it. It's compressor was aluminum. Mine is cast iron. That's what sold me, quieter, longer life. I hope, anyway. Barry "woodgrinder" wrote in message oups.com... The Husky brand sold by Home Deopt is made by DeVilbiss, which is OK in my book. Which is why that's what I got. 800+ sq ft of wood flooring later, I'm still happy with it. Got the 25 gal upright, with the accessory kit for under $300. John Maker of Fine Wood Chips and Sawdust |
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I suppose it may depend on the model. After I got it, I called Home
Depot and asked about mine, who said DeVilbiss made it, and I called DeVilbiss tech support, who took the model and S/N of my unit and confirmed that they made it. After doing 6 years of computer phone support, I like to check out the support for things before I commit to keeping them. If it was C-H, I would avoid it. I had a C-H HVLP unit literally melt down once. Home Depot replaced it, but that left a bad impression. OK, maybe I'm picky. All right, doggone it, I *am* picky. I'm not rich enough to throw my money away on junk. Returning to the original poster's question: pancake compressors *are* portable, they *are* relatively inexpensive, but they just don't have enough storage capacity for paint spray or high-volume tools. They are great for jobsite nailers and the like. I can't give you a simple "get this or get that" answer. Think about how you will use it in the future, and consider the long-term cost. Will you ever spray paint, or other finish? How much space do you have? I myself opted for the 25 gal upright, because floor space is limited, but I DO spray, and I also planned to use high-volume air tools. But in your case, will life end because you choose a tool that someone else might not? Naw, didn't think so. You could even be creative, like Barry (below) and use add-ons. But you might want the whole schmeer at once. What works best for you? I think you've gotten a lot different viewpoints and options. My advice is to hunt down a gool deal and get the best buy. Then post a gloat! John Maker of Fine Wood chips and Sawdust |
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Well, it was definitely Campbell-Hausfield that made mine. I double-checked
today at lunchtime. The compressor on mine is cast iron instead of aluminum as many of the other brands are. That was a selling point for me. No, you're not being picky. I don't blame you for avoiding a brand you've had a bad experience with. I have a problem throwing money away, too. I'd rather pay more for something........as long as I actually get more. What actually happened with your earlier unit? Barry PS I figure if I get a lemon, I'll just drive up to the Campbell-Hausfield factory and camp out until they make it right! So far I've been well pleased. Of course, my unit probably has 10 hours on it, too. "woodgrinder" wrote in message oups.com... I suppose it may depend on the model. After I got it, I called Home Depot and asked about mine, who said DeVilbiss made it, and I called DeVilbiss tech support, who took the model and S/N of my unit and confirmed that they made it. After doing 6 years of computer phone support, I like to check out the support for things before I commit to keeping them. If it was C-H, I would avoid it. I had a C-H HVLP unit literally melt down once. Home Depot replaced it, but that left a bad impression. OK, maybe I'm picky. All right, doggone it, I *am* picky. I'm not rich enough to throw my money away on junk. Returning to the original poster's question: pancake compressors *are* portable, they *are* relatively inexpensive, but they just don't have enough storage capacity for paint spray or high-volume tools. They are great for jobsite nailers and the like. I can't give you a simple "get this or get that" answer. Think about how you will use it in the future, and consider the long-term cost. Will you ever spray paint, or other finish? How much space do you have? I myself opted for the 25 gal upright, because floor space is limited, but I DO spray, and I also planned to use high-volume air tools. But in your case, will life end because you choose a tool that someone else might not? Naw, didn't think so. You could even be creative, like Barry (below) and use add-ons. But you might want the whole schmeer at once. What works best for you? I think you've gotten a lot different viewpoints and options. My advice is to hunt down a gool deal and get the best buy. Then post a gloat! John Maker of Fine Wood chips and Sawdust |
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Barry, is that 60 gal compressor 220v ac???? for me that is an issue as
there is only 110v in the garage opps shop. I have wondered the same thing the original poster. Seems to me Home Depot has a 25 gal with accessories for around $300. You know how it is, I won't be useing air tools and 6 months later you are trying them out. Thanks for the info. Bruce "Barry N. Turner" wrote in message ... For about $379, you can get an upright compressor from Home Depot or Lowe's (made by Campbell-Hausfield) with a 60 gallon tank. It's rated for 6 HP, but it's probably more like 2 or 3 actual HP. The pancake compressors are just so cute! I looked at several this past summer and was very tempted to buy one. I was looking at a Dewalt/Emglo for about $329. For about $50 more, I got a real compressor that will handle most anything I want it to do, spray finish and run most air tools. I use a blow gun a lot to clear chips off my lathe or to clear hollow turnings. My compressor runs only occasionally. Much better than one of the little ones kicking on every time I use the blowgun. The small portable/pancake/stack tank models are primarily intended to power brad guns and nail guns and they do that very well. For much else, you need a bigger compressor. If you are using a mini air grinder, similar to a dental drill, a small compressor could be enough. Just check the tool's air consumption requirements and buy the compressor that you need. It's not a real problem to buy more compressor than you need, but the reverse of that can be a real pain. Barry wrote in message oups.com... Hello folks, need some advise. I want to get a small compressor to blow air out of my turnings and use a small air sander. I have seen a Porter Cable pancake one that comes with a brad nailer. It has received good reviews for use with nailers but nothing about continuous/short burst use. My wife will also use it when with a mini air grinder for her scrollsaw/intarsia stuff.. Any advise will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Guy |
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Yes, my compressor is 220 volt. For me, that wasn't a problem. Home Depot
does have several smaller (but still larger than a pancake) compressors that operate on 110. Barry "Bruce Ferguson" wrote in message ... Barry, is that 60 gal compressor 220v ac???? for me that is an issue as there is only 110v in the garage opps shop. I have wondered the same thing the original poster. Seems to me Home Depot has a 25 gal with accessories for around $300. You know how it is, I won't be useing air tools and 6 months later you are trying them out. Thanks for the info. Bruce "Barry N. Turner" wrote in message ... For about $379, you can get an upright compressor from Home Depot or Lowe's (made by Campbell-Hausfield) with a 60 gallon tank. It's rated for 6 HP, but it's probably more like 2 or 3 actual HP. The pancake compressors are just so cute! I looked at several this past summer and was very tempted to buy one. I was looking at a Dewalt/Emglo for about $329. For about $50 more, I got a real compressor that will handle most anything I want it to do, spray finish and run most air tools. I use a blow gun a lot to clear chips off my lathe or to clear hollow turnings. My compressor runs only occasionally. Much better than one of the little ones kicking on every time I use the blowgun. The small portable/pancake/stack tank models are primarily intended to power brad guns and nail guns and they do that very well. For much else, you need a bigger compressor. If you are using a mini air grinder, similar to a dental drill, a small compressor could be enough. Just check the tool's air consumption requirements and buy the compressor that you need. It's not a real problem to buy more compressor than you need, but the reverse of that can be a real pain. Barry wrote in message oups.com... Hello folks, need some advise. I want to get a small compressor to blow air out of my turnings and use a small air sander. I have seen a Porter Cable pancake one that comes with a brad nailer. It has received good reviews for use with nailers but nothing about continuous/short burst use. My wife will also use it when with a mini air grinder for her scrollsaw/intarsia stuff.. Any advise will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Guy |
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