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Gerald Ross
 
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A week and a half ago I rescued some "road kill" wood from a road
widening project. I cut the logs to length, cut a generous pith section
from the center and sealed the ends with Woodcraft end sealer.
10 days ago I rough turned 6 dogwood bowls and 3 red cedar bowls to
approx. 3/4 in. thickness and boiled them for 1 hour after the boiling
started.
After boiling I left them out to drip dry for a couple of days before
bagging. The next day 3 of the dogwood bowls had developed cracks of 1/4
to 1/2 inch. The second day after boiling another had cracks and one of
the cedar bowls also was cracking.
I panicked and sealed the end grain of all 9 bowls, inside and out. The
cracks have not enlarged and no new cracks so far. That day I turned
more bowls and promptly sealed the end grain and did not boil. These
were 4 dogwood, two cedar and two poplar. After a week none are cracking.
Five cracked bowls would be insignificant to a production turner, but to
me with only a couple of dozen bowls a year, 50% cracks is significant.
Another problem I have been having with boiled bowls is mold growth,
including the first dogwood bowls of this series. None so far on the
last batch.
Maybe I need to import 50 gal. of that Texas water.
I have been boiling bowls for a couple of years with an occasional crack
and a lot of mold. Perhaps I'll try the sealing for a while.
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Try the LDD method and cracking and warping will be a thing of the past!

Leif
"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
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The following is for mature audiences only.

A week and a half ago I rescued some "road kill" wood from a road widening
project. I cut the logs to length, cut a generous pith section from the
center and sealed the ends with Woodcraft end sealer.
10 days ago I rough turned 6 dogwood bowls and 3 red cedar bowls to
approx. 3/4 in. thickness and boiled them for 1 hour after the boiling
started.
After boiling I left them out to drip dry for a couple of days before
bagging. The next day 3 of the dogwood bowls had developed cracks of 1/4
to 1/2 inch. The second day after boiling another had cracks and one of
the cedar bowls also was cracking.
I panicked and sealed the end grain of all 9 bowls, inside and out. The
cracks have not enlarged and no new cracks so far. That day I turned more
bowls and promptly sealed the end grain and did not boil. These were 4
dogwood, two cedar and two poplar. After a week none are cracking.
Five cracked bowls would be insignificant to a production turner, but to
me with only a couple of dozen bowls a year, 50% cracks is significant.
Another problem I have been having with boiled bowls is mold growth,
including the first dogwood bowls of this series. None so far on the last
batch.
Maybe I need to import 50 gal. of that Texas water.
I have been boiling bowls for a couple of years with an occasional crack
and a lot of mold. Perhaps I'll try the sealing for a while.
--

Gerald Ross, Cochran, GA
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Leif Thorvaldson wrote:
Try the LDD method and cracking and warping will be a thing of the past!

Leif

How do you get a finish to stick? or do you just use a soap finish?


"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
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The following is for mature audiences only.

A week and a half ago I rescued some "road kill" wood from a road widening
project. I cut the logs to length, cut a generous pith section from the
center and sealed the ends with Woodcraft end sealer.
10 days ago I rough turned 6 dogwood bowls and 3 red cedar bowls to
approx. 3/4 in. thickness and boiled them for 1 hour after the boiling
started.
After boiling I left them out to drip dry for a couple of days before
bagging. The next day 3 of the dogwood bowls had developed cracks of 1/4
to 1/2 inch. The second day after boiling another had cracks and one of
the cedar bowls also was cracking.
I panicked and sealed the end grain of all 9 bowls, inside and out. The
cracks have not enlarged and no new cracks so far. That day I turned more
bowls and promptly sealed the end grain and did not boil. These were 4
dogwood, two cedar and two poplar. After a week none are cracking.
Five cracked bowls would be insignificant to a production turner, but to
me with only a couple of dozen bowls a year, 50% cracks is significant.
Another problem I have been having with boiled bowls is mold growth,
including the first dogwood bowls of this series. None so far on the last
batch.
Maybe I need to import 50 gal. of that Texas water.
I have been boiling bowls for a couple of years with an occasional crack
and a lot of mold. Perhaps I'll try the sealing for a while.
--

Gerald Ross, Cochran, GA
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...........maybe boil in LDD ? ? ?

Barry


"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
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Leif Thorvaldson wrote:
Try the LDD method and cracking and warping will be a thing of the past!

Leif

How do you get a finish to stick? or do you just use a soap finish?


"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
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The following is for mature audiences only.

A week and a half ago I rescued some "road kill" wood from a road

widening
project. I cut the logs to length, cut a generous pith section from the
center and sealed the ends with Woodcraft end sealer.
10 days ago I rough turned 6 dogwood bowls and 3 red cedar bowls to
approx. 3/4 in. thickness and boiled them for 1 hour after the boiling
started.
After boiling I left them out to drip dry for a couple of days before
bagging. The next day 3 of the dogwood bowls had developed cracks of

1/4
to 1/2 inch. The second day after boiling another had cracks and one of
the cedar bowls also was cracking.
I panicked and sealed the end grain of all 9 bowls, inside and out. The
cracks have not enlarged and no new cracks so far. That day I turned

more
bowls and promptly sealed the end grain and did not boil. These were 4
dogwood, two cedar and two poplar. After a week none are cracking.
Five cracked bowls would be insignificant to a production turner, but

to
me with only a couple of dozen bowls a year, 50% cracks is significant.
Another problem I have been having with boiled bowls is mold growth,
including the first dogwood bowls of this series. None so far on the

last
batch.
Maybe I need to import 50 gal. of that Texas water.
I have been boiling bowls for a couple of years with an occasional

crack
and a lot of mold. Perhaps I'll try the sealing for a while.
--

Gerald Ross, Cochran, GA
To reply add the numerals "13" before the "at"
...........................................
Politicians and diapers need changing
often for similar reasons.




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"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
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Leif Thorvaldson wrote:
Try the LDD method and cracking and warping will be a thing of the past!

Leif

How do you get a finish to stick? or do you just use a soap finish?


Never had a finish slip or fail. The object you are turning is almost dry
by the time you are ready to apply the finish. Only finish I have heard of
that was not suggested was a waterbased one. I have never tried such, so
can't attest to that. However, I have used laquer, shellac, Danish Oil,
Shellawax, EE Ultra shine, etc. I am sending you a copy of my "World-Famous
Treatise on LDD" which explains the process. The first copy is free as is
the second. Come to think of it, they're all free! I should charge a large
fee for copies so that turners will really believe they have obtained their
money's worth in the contents contained therein. Oh, well!

Leif

P.S. Disregard that snide comment infra! One need not boil LDD!


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