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DVR 3000 Experience
I'm thinking about buying a Nova DVR 3000. I'm looking for some comment
from someone who owns one on what they think of it - pro and con. Doug |
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Hi Doug,
I can't think of a single con for this lathe. I've had one for about two months now and I've already turned about 20 or 25 pieces on it. What I can say is: the company backs their product 100%. My "new" lathe died on me (first time in Teknatool history) last Sunday. Tuesday, I had a brand new lathe. No questions asked. Teknatool has a toll free number to technical support in New Zealand, and Woodcraft (the main supplier in the States) also has an 800 tech support line. Teknatool are extremely helpful and courteous. Very, very professional company. (And no, I don't in any way represent them--I just think they're a fantastic company!). Having said that, let me get into the nuts and bolts of the lathe itself: - It comes with a built in index, so if you're into ornamental turning, carving, or such, it's a breeze to set stops at regular intervals. - The entire headstock rotates 360 degrees. This is great if you want to do off-the-bed turning of larger pieces, so center to bed distance is a moot point. Also, I've found that it's easier on my back if I turn the headstock away from center about 45 degrees; no more bening over the lathe when deep hollowing. - Computer controlled, variable speed motor from 250 rpm (I think) up to 3500 rpm in increments of 5 rpm. - If you do buy one, I strongly recommend the bench that's designed for it. I've actually got mine bolted into a concrete floor. I ordered the long bench, both for the added weight and so that I could eventually add an extension to the lathe bed (for turning long pieces such as pool cues). - Has a great number of optional items such as vacuum chucking systems, ornamental turning tools, out-rigger tool rest, etc. -Comes with a HEAVY-DUTY 12" tool rest and an extremely heavy and rugged tailstock. Includes morse taper and live center. -I'm not sure if it's included in all lathe setups, but mine also came with the vacuum ready flywheel/handle. I can go on all day, but these are just some of the pros. If you're seriously interested, I suggest you call Woodcraft (if you have one close to where you're located) and see if they'll let you try one out. They let me try mine (brand new out of the box) before I actually purchased it. Alternatively, if you're in the Chesapeake, VA area, let me know and I'd be happy to let you check out mine. Also, don't know if you're aware that Teknatool has a web site... It's at http://www.teknatool.com. They have a lot of information about the DVR, including the manual which you can download. Hope this has been of some help to you. I really do HIGHLY recommend the DVR. I believe it's as good, if not better than lathes that cost ten times as much. If you have any specific questions, please don't hesitate to ask. -- Ali T. Borahan AliSails - Fine Wood Artistry & Custom Woodcrafts Web URL: http://www.alisails.com "Franklin Rasmussen" wrote in message ... I'm thinking about buying a Nova DVR 3000. I'm looking for some comment from someone who owns one on what they think of it - pro and con. Doug |
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Hello Doug,
There has been a lot of discussion on this machine on this newsgroup over the past year. Lyn wrote a series of articles on his DVR for More Woodturning. I've owned one for almost a year now. I had a Nova 3000 for three or four years before acquiring the DVR 3000. I always felt the Nova 3000 was the best lathe on the market for under $1500. The Nova DVR 3000 is an even better lathe, but it costs a bit more. I would say it is the best lathe under $1800 to $2000 now. Because of the DVR technology, the lathe is low in power at very slow rpm. This is because of the space between sensors and the time it takes to get from one sensor to another. Therefore, the earlier machines and possibly those available in the United States have a minimum speed at turn on of power of 1500 rpm and only go down to 250 rpm. I did find this to be a problem. I seldom turned below 300 rpm and the lathe maintains the last speed you had set in until you turn off the power. It is an excellent machine and I highly recommend it. You might want to do a Power Search of the archinves. Go to http://www.deja.com and select Power Search. Then enter rec.crafts.woodturning into the forum space and NOVA DVR 3000 into the subject space. You should turn up a lot of good posts. Especially read Lyn's. He talks both good and bad points about it but says that he wouldn't want to go back to his Nova 3000. Fred Holder http://www.fholder.com/ In article , "Franklin says... I'm thinking about buying a Nova DVR 3000. I'm looking for some comment from someone who owns one on what they think of it - pro and con. Doug |
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Ali T. Borahan wrote:
Alternatively, if you're in the Chesapeake, VA area, let me know and I'd beappy to let you check out mine. Speaking of which, if anybody is willing to do the same in the New York City area, please let me know. I've been toying with the idea of getting one. It would be my first lathe, and I don't really know much about what to look for, so I need to rely on review and recommendations a lot. I'd rather spend a little extra up front and make sure what I'm getting will be the right thing. |
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Fred Holder wrote clip)Lyn wrote a series of articles on his DVR for More Woodturning (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ If you do not have access to More Woodturning, check the arcives for this group. Lyn always posts his articles here as well. His analysis of this lathe is very thorough, and generally favorable, but not 100% positive. One of his main criticisms has to do with the bottom speed of the lathe, and the way it performs it heavily loaded at low speed. However, I think the lower speed limit has been reduced since his articles were written. I don't know whether Teknatool sent him the upgrade. Maybe he will come out of hiding and help us out here. How about it, Lyn. We miss you. |
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"Franklin Rasmussen" wrote in message ...
I'm thinking about buying a Nova DVR 3000. I'm looking for some comment from someone who owns one on what they think of it - pro and con. Doug There is an Owners group devoted to Nova Owners. You can take a look at comments by others. Go to: http://groups.msn.com/NovaOwners/ |
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I love my DVR! Only cons are low RPM related. I don't seem to note
this much anymore. My tools are much sharper. My technique is much improved. The 220 volt mod certainly did not hurt. A little experience goes a long way toward knowing the limits. I hear there is new program with a lower low. In some ways it's a comfort that it shuts down before your trouble. The best thing I ever did was upgrade the handles per Lyn's reviews. In the last year Jet & Delta have new lathes in this price & size class & Oneway in this size class. It's lot harder to choose this year. On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:12:03 GMT, "Franklin Rasmussen" wrote: I'm thinking about buying a Nova DVR 3000. I'm looking for some comment from someone who owns one on what they think of it - pro and con. Doug |
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Fred, thanks for the help.
I was able to get Lyn's articles from the archives and they were most helpful. I also visited your More Woodturning site and found some good general info on turning. I have been turning on a minilath for sometime and want to moveup to larger bowl turning. It looks like the DVR 3000 wood be good choice for the money I have to spend. Doug "Fred Holder" wrote in message ... Hello Doug, There has been a lot of discussion on this machine on this newsgroup over the past year. Lyn wrote a series of articles on his DVR for More Woodturning. I've owned one for almost a year now. I had a Nova 3000 for three or four years before acquiring the DVR 3000. I always felt the Nova 3000 was the best lathe on the market for under $1500. The Nova DVR 3000 is an even better lathe, but it costs a bit more. I would say it is the best lathe under $1800 to $2000 now. Because of the DVR technology, the lathe is low in power at very slow rpm. This is because of the space between sensors and the time it takes to get from one sensor to another. Therefore, the earlier machines and possibly those available in the United States have a minimum speed at turn on of power of 1500 rpm and only go down to 250 rpm. I did find this to be a problem. I seldom turned below 300 rpm and the lathe maintains the last speed you had set in until you turn off the power. It is an excellent machine and I highly recommend it. You might want to do a Power Search of the archinves. Go to http://www.deja.com and select Power Search. Then enter rec.crafts.woodturning into the forum space and NOVA DVR 3000 into the subject space. You should turn up a lot of good posts. Especially read Lyn's. He talks both good and bad points about it but says that he wouldn't want to go back to his Nova 3000. Fred Holder http://www.fholder.com/ In article , "Franklin says... I'm thinking about buying a Nova DVR 3000. I'm looking for some comment from someone who owns one on what they think of it - pro and con. Doug |
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Sorry,I missed the part from Lyn's reviews regarding the handle
upgrade..Anyone care to restate this?Lyn is obviously not available now..Hope all is well with him..Thanks,Rick "Walt & Jenne Ahlgrim" wrote in message ... I love my DVR! Only cons are low RPM related. I don't seem to note this much anymore. My tools are much sharper. My technique is much improved. The 220 volt mod certainly did not hurt. A little experience goes a long way toward knowing the limits. I hear there is new program with a lower low. In some ways it's a comfort that it shuts down before your trouble. The best thing I ever did was upgrade the handles per Lyn's reviews. In the last year Jet & Delta have new lathes in this price & size class & Oneway in this size class. It's lot harder to choose this year. On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:12:03 GMT, "Franklin Rasmussen" wrote: I'm thinking about buying a Nova DVR 3000. I'm looking for some comment from someone who owns one on what they think of it - pro and con. Doug |
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http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2...nk.net&rnum=25
from this link I copyed this section " The locking handles of the banjo and tailstock have long been a weakness of the Teknatool lathes. The manufacturer has made several changes in these handles over time and model, but they remain somewhat uncomfortable and awkward to use. The good news is that relatively cheap modifications can greatly improved this aspect of the DVR. For around twenty dollars, you can outfit your DVR with comfortable, effective, durable handles, greatly easing the day to day use of the lathe. The banjo is locked using a short metal lever. This 4 inch locking lever is the same as that supplied for the tailstock, and in both cases is over an inch shorter than the one that came on the Nova 3000. This shorter length is necessary on the tailstock in order to clear the tailstock hand wheel, and for that purpose is acceptable. However, for use on the banjo, the lever is both too short and too small in diameter to be truly comfortable. Fortunately, you can improve upon the handle quite easily and cheaply. Reid Tool Supply is a good source for replacement handles (Reid calls them Gear Levers), and looking through the pages of their catalog you will find you can obtain several sorts of handle styles and lengths (something between 4.5 and 6.5 inches will work the best). My favorite solution is to scavenge an original Nova 3K handle, or lacking that, to obtain a basic steel shaft that is threaded on one or both ends (e.g., Reid # GLS-170). Over either of those shafts I use the Ergostyle soft touch push fit handles (Reid # ESP-85). These push fit handles are not really push fit for the 10mm metric sized Nova levers, so you must ream them out with a 10 mm drill bit to get them to fit putting a little hole in the end will also help release the internal air as you push them on. I like these handles so much that I don t mind going to these extra steps and use them for both the banjo and the tailstock levers. The firm molded rubber of the Ergostyle handles gives you a 7/8 inch diameter by 3.35 inch long gripping surface, rather than the hard 10mm (essentially 3/8 inch) diameter surface of the steel levers. Regardless of the levers you obtain, make sure they have the M10 x 1.5 threading that is necessary to screw them into the Nova mounting holes, and use a good wrap of Teflon tape or some thread locking compound to keep these coarse threads tight against their mating surfaces. The locking lever for the tool rest is as much an aggravation as that for the banjo. It is not infrequent that a hand grasping the banjo locking lever is squeezed up against the tool rest post locking lever (or vice versa). I ve found the solution is to use a ratcheting/adjustable handle, not unlike those found on many mini-lathes, but much heavier duty. Again, Reid Tool has the KHX-345 metal handle, which has the necessary M12x1.75, one inch stud. This is one of my favorite modifications to my DVR. This big secure handle gives a good solid grip, and can be adjusted to whatever angle is most conducive to operation or getting the handle out of the way. Before leaving this area, I want to point out a simple adjustment that can be made to the banjo locking mechanism. Some find, either upon receiving the lathe, or after a period of use, that the banjo does not lock down quite as tightly as might be desired. A simple improvement can almost always be attained by sliding the banjo off the bed, turning it over and tightening the bolt that attaches the locking plate to the locking mechanism. This bolt is countersunk and has a socket for an 8 mm Allen wrench. It will already feel tight, but if you apply force, it will usually tighten about an additional quarter turn. I ve done this on two Nova 3ks and my current DVR, and in each case it has improved the locking action. While you have the banjo upside run a file along the bottom side of the banjo housing, just enough to smooth over any variations in paint thickness and remove any casting flash doing so will improve how smoothly your banjo will slide, as well as allow it to lock down more securely. One last thing while you have the banjo off is to lightly oil the slide. This can be done from the top side as well, by removing two plastic caps. Lubricating the locking mechanism is discussed in the DVR manual and is basic maintenance for these lathes. If ever you find the banjo is seeming to become difficult to position freely, it is usually that the slide portion of the locking mechanism is due for a little lubrication. " n Sun, 13 Jul 2003 08:05:15 -0400, "rickpixley" wrote: Sorry,I missed the part from Lyn's reviews regarding the handle upgrade..Anyone care to restate this?Lyn is obviously not available now..Hope all is well with him..Thanks,Rick "Walt & Jenne Ahlgrim" wrote in message .. . |
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