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Widow Maker
There is a clump of several cherry trees in my woods. I'd like to
cut one down and use it for making bowls. (there is a picture at http://warpedwoodturner.blogspot.com...-headache.html ). The horizontal branch in the pictures must have partially broken in a windstorm about two years ago. I was going to cut down one of the trees then saw the branch up in the air about 25 feet. The branch is about 4" thick where it meets the trunk and looks about 1/2 broken. The top of the branch is caught in another of the trees. The other two trees are harder to work on safely since the clump is on a hill. Some of the people in this group have talked about coming from logging families so I thought I'd see if anyone could give any guidance here. Getting beaned by the branch if it detached from the tree sounds like bad news. Thanks. |
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, TWW wrote: I was going to cut down one of the trees then saw the branch up in the air about 25 feet. ....and exactly how were you planning to manage that? Having a branch move in a way you did not anticipate and knock a ladder out from under you will kill you just as dead as having it fall on your head. I suppose you might try one of those "chain between two ropes" saws, with long ropes. -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by |
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Okay, what am I missing? The branch is 25 feet up, half broken off, and the
main thing holding it up is the other tree. Throw a rope over the thing and break it off. If you can not pull it off, use a come-along. Then cut the tree down. Actually, it could likely be dropped safely anyway, but I like to be sure. -- God bless and safe turning Darrell Feltmate Truro, NS Canada http://aroundthewoods.com http://roundopinions.blogspot.com "TWW" wrote in message ... There is a clump of several cherry trees in my woods. I'd like to cut one down and use it for making bowls. (there is a picture at http://warpedwoodturner.blogspot.com...-headache.html ). The horizontal branch in the pictures must have partially broken in a windstorm about two years ago. I was going to cut down one of the trees then saw the branch up in the air about 25 feet. The branch is about 4" thick where it meets the trunk and looks about 1/2 broken. The top of the branch is caught in another of the trees. The other two trees are harder to work on safely since the clump is on a hill. Some of the people in this group have talked about coming from logging families so I thought I'd see if anyone could give any guidance here. Getting beaned by the branch if it detached from the tree sounds like bad news. Thanks. |
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If you are trying to save the other tree.......I understand your question. A
large flat washer tied on fishing pole will let you cast the line over the branch and let the washer fall down the other. It will take several casts. Get a local fisherman to help if necessary. Once the line is over the branch, pull a string over the branch, then a rope and finally a chain or steel cable. Now you can pull the tree/branch away from the good tree with whatever you have, truck ,car tractor, neighbors dump truck, use your imagination. Test the chain, rope, cable by pulling before sawing. If all is well cut 2/3 to 3/4 way thru the tree then use whatever you have hooked up to pull it over. A come-a-long might work.......but make sure there is adequate length of pull to topple the tree. Be sure you have enough cable rope or chain to keep the vehicle out of the drop zone. Do not attempt to cut it up in the air cuz, after you make the cut, it will fall into you.......not away from you. Darrell, brings up some good points in his post below. Also try a local rental store for a pole chainsaw. Again be careful it may not go the way you want. Check out some of my logging experience @ alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking and search for: update on wormy white oak. If I have misunderstood your question let me know. I will rethink my answer. Good luck and be safe. Lyndell "TWW" wrote in message ... There is a clump of several cherry trees in my woods. I'd like to cut one down and use it for making bowls. (there is a picture at http://warpedwoodturner.blogspot.com...-headache.html ). The horizontal branch in the pictures must have partially broken in a windstorm about two years ago. I was going to cut down one of the trees then saw the branch up in the air about 25 feet. The branch is about 4" thick where it meets the trunk and looks about 1/2 broken. The top of the branch is caught in another of the trees. The other two trees are harder to work on safely since the clump is on a hill. Some of the people in this group have talked about coming from logging families so I thought I'd see if anyone could give any guidance here. Getting beaned by the branch if it detached from the tree sounds like bad news. Thanks. |
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On Nov 20, 2:36 pm, TWW wrote:
There is a clump of several cherry trees in my woods. I'd like to cut one down and use it for making bowls. (there is a picture athttp://warpedwoodturner.blogspot.com/2007/11/potential-headache.html ). The horizontal branch in the pictures must have partially broken in a TWW I'm with Darrell on this, throw a line over that branch and see if you can break it or pull it down. I would use what I learned in the Navy, a line with a heavier weight on it (we had a small leather bag filled with sand on the end to throw the line), that will get your rope up and over and down. If you are unable to pull it down, I would saw the tree so-far that it is ready to fall, than pull some more on that rope, that should do it, either the branch will come or the tree. Just take your time and try to stay on the safer side of the tree when cutting. Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo windstorm about two years ago. I was going to cut down one of the trees then saw the branch up in the air about 25 feet. The branch is about 4" thick where it meets the trunk and looks about 1/2 broken. The top of the branch is caught in another of the trees. The other two trees are harder to work on safely since the clump is on a hill. Some of the people in this group have talked about coming from logging families so I thought I'd see if anyone could give any guidance here. Getting beaned by the branch if it detached from the tree sounds like bad news. Thanks. |
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Widow Maker
Got a shot gun?
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it looks as though the tree the limb is hung up in is dead, if this is
so i would fall it first and hopefully the limb will break of with it, if not it will just hang on the the tree it's broke off from. when making yor cut after putting in the face notch, bore through the trunk cutting up to the notch leaving only about 1" of wood at the hinge, then cut from the center to the back this leave's the last wood cut at the very back of the trunk. when you turn it loose you have more time to get out than if you cut back to face. when you get to about the last inch on the back that is still holding the tree you can stand upright and cut down at a slight angle to meet the bore cut releasing the tree. i cut large hardwood timber for a living for over 35 years and have used this method many times. always wear a hard hat and don't go out felling alone. ross www.highislandexport.com |
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I've seen both extremes of tree trimming. Both an arborist (tree
doctor) coming in to take down a tree and a guy with a .306. Admittedly the latter took place 100 miles from anyone who might call the police. The arborist would climb up and tie off a line above the branch he was planning to cut and tie it to the branch as well. Then someone on the ground would control and lower the branch down once it was cut. When they were topping down the tree they would tie off above and below where the cut was to be made then allow the rope to catch the cut section as it began to fall. Whether you go one way or the other I wish you luck. Me I'd call an arborist. Who knows you might find a new source for turning stock. On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:36:54 -0800 (PST), TWW wrote: There is a clump of several cherry trees in my woods. I'd like to cut one down and use it for making bowls. (there is a picture at http://warpedwoodturner.blogspot.com...-headache.html ). The horizontal branch in the pictures must have partially broken in a windstorm about two years ago. I was going to cut down one of the trees then saw the branch up in the air about 25 feet. The branch is about 4" thick where it meets the trunk and looks about 1/2 broken. The top of the branch is caught in another of the trees. The other two trees are harder to work on safely since the clump is on a hill. Some of the people in this group have talked about coming from logging families so I thought I'd see if anyone could give any guidance here. Getting beaned by the branch if it detached from the tree sounds like bad news. Thanks. |
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Thanks for the ideas. I took down a different cherry tree to use for
now but your replies give me a great starting point to figure out what to do in the future. I run through the woods a couple of times per week and have often stopped by that clump of trees and wondered what to do. It helps to ask people who have been there before. |
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Part 2
I set up Google Analytics to monitor the blog I referenced above. The blog is meant for a small number of relatives and coworkers not the world in general but I was curious. So if you have ever wondered anything about where the people are who read the posts in this group, the following is a list of the locations of people who followed the link the blog on November 20th: US - 56 (spread over 24 states) - perhaps 5 of the visits are not from this group Canada - 8 United Kingdom - 7 Australia - 1 Thanks again to all who responded. People get smarter if they ask dumb questions |
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Striker you could call my cousin to do the job, not low cost those
guys and their equipment though. ;-)) http://www.weijtmans.nl/ Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo On Nov 21, 7:08 am, wrote: I've seen both extremes of tree trimming. Both an arborist (tree doctor) coming in to take down a tree and a guy with a .306. Admittedly the latter took place 100 miles from anyone who might call the police. The arborist would climb up and tie off a line above the branch he was planning to cut and tie it to the branch as well. Then someone on the ground would control and lower the branch down once it was cut. When they were topping down the tree they would tie off above and below where the cut was to be made then allow the rope to catch the cut section as it began to fall. Whether you go one way or the other I wish you luck. Me I'd call an arborist. Who knows you might find a new source for turning stock. On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:36:54 -0800 (PST), TWW wrote: There is a clump of several cherry trees in my woods. I'd like to cut one down and use it for making bowls. (there is a picture at http://warpedwoodturner.blogspot.com...-headache.html ). The horizontal branch in the pictures must have partially broken in a windstorm about two years ago. I was going to cut down one of the trees then saw the branch up in the air about 25 feet. The branch is about 4" thick where it meets the trunk and looks about 1/2 broken. The top of the branch is caught in another of the trees. The other two trees are harder to work on safely since the clump is on a hill. Some of the people in this group have talked about coming from logging families so I thought I'd see if anyone could give any guidance here. Getting beaned by the branch if it detached from the tree sounds like bad news. Thanks. |
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wow what a company hope u keep this cousin on your xmas mailing list
and with bowls don On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:56:20 -0800 (PST), " wrote: Striker you could call my cousin to do the job, not low cost those guys and their equipment though. ;-)) http://www.weijtmans.nl/ Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo On Nov 21, 7:08 am, wrote: I've seen both extremes of tree trimming. Both an arborist (tree doctor) coming in to take down a tree and a guy with a .306. Admittedly the latter took place 100 miles from anyone who might call the police. The arborist would climb up and tie off a line above the branch he was planning to cut and tie it to the branch as well. Then someone on the ground would control and lower the branch down once it was cut. When they were topping down the tree they would tie off above and below where the cut was to be made then allow the rope to catch the cut section as it began to fall. Whether you go one way or the other I wish you luck. Me I'd call an arborist. Who knows you might find a new source for turning stock. On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:36:54 -0800 (PST), TWW wrote: There is a clump of several cherry trees in my woods. I'd like to cut one down and use it for making bowls. (there is a picture at http://warpedwoodturner.blogspot.com...-headache.html ). The horizontal branch in the pictures must have partially broken in a windstorm about two years ago. I was going to cut down one of the trees then saw the branch up in the air about 25 feet. The branch is about 4" thick where it meets the trunk and looks about 1/2 broken. The top of the branch is caught in another of the trees. The other two trees are harder to work on safely since the clump is on a hill. Some of the people in this group have talked about coming from logging families so I thought I'd see if anyone could give any guidance here. Getting beaned by the branch if it detached from the tree sounds like bad news. Thanks. |
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