I have just brought a crown round skew 12mm. I am hoping that i can use this to finish the out side of my bowels, proir to sanding.

When i had a lesson a few years back, the guy had a sort of round skew which finished the outside of the bowel nicely. I can't remember if this had a straight across blade finish or was a curve.

I'm now unsure if i have brought the right tool and hope you can set me right before i try holding my new shiny piece of steel against a spinning piece of wood.

Mark

"Woodborg" wrote in message
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I have just brought a crown round skew 12mm. I am hoping that i can use
this to finish the out side of my bowels, proir to sanding.

When i had a lesson a few years back, the guy had a sort of round skew
which finished the outside of the bowel nicely. I can't remember if
this had a straight across blade finish or was a curve.

I'm now unsure if i have brought the right tool and hope you can set me
right before i try holding my new shiny piece of steel against a
spinning piece of wood.


A skew is going to be a bear to control against a roll because the point
will lead into the work if you aren't very high on the circle and guiding on
the bevel. Even a straight chisel is tough, though you can skew the
trailing edge to protect yourself from digging. I like a shallow flute broad
radius gouge for that kind of work. Allows me to deepen progressively while
the curve(s) of the edge provide a margin of safety by coming out away from
the wood.

Get in close with your toolrest, keep it at or preferably a bit above center
to keep yourself from getting under the wood and digging in.

Video of some fat guy using a forged gouge truing the outside of a bowl.
Notice how he swings the gouge rather than pushes it when things clatter
because they aren't round. Lots easier to control on an anchored swing. A
straight edge won't allow you that luxury, only a curved one.
http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...TrueBottom.flv
Once the surface is pretty regular the bevel will guide and a shaving so
thin you can see through it can be maintained.

On Jul 10, 8:54 am, Woodborg wrote:
I have just brought a crown round skew 12mm. I am hoping that i can use
this to finish the out side of my bowels, proir to sanding.

When i had a lesson a few years back, the guy had a sort of round skew
which finished the outside of the bowel nicely. I can't remember if
this had a straight across blade finish or was a curve.

I'm now unsure if i have brought the right tool and hope you can set me
right before i try holding my new shiny piece of steel against a
spinning piece of wood.

Mark

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Woodborg


Hello Mark,

A skew chisel whether round or otherwise, is not the right tool to use
on a bowl. A skew chisel is designed for spindle turning where all of
the grain is side grain. A bowl gouge or a round nose scraper are the
better choices for bowl work. I personally prefer the bowl gouge for
all bowl work. If you simply can't get rid of the ridges with the bowl
gouge, a wide, heavy round nose scraper will work very well.

Another nice tool for what you want is made from an old shallow
spindle gouge of about one inch width. Grind the bevel on the flute
side. When in use, put the flute down onto the tool rest and you have
an excellent shear scraper that works on both the inside and outside
of the bowl. I prefer this to the flat scraper because of the shearing
action that it provides without having to cant you tool off of the
tool rest.

Please use that skew to turn spindles, you can get some horrible
catches using a skew on a bowl.

Fred Holder
http://www.fholder.com

In article . com, Fred
Holder wrote:

On Jul 10, 8:54 am, Woodborg wrote:
I have just brought a crown round skew 12mm. I am hoping that i can use
this to finish the out side of my bowels, proir to sanding.

When i had a lesson a few years back, the guy had a sort of round skew
which finished the outside of the bowel nicely. I can't remember if
this had a straight across blade finish or was a curve.

I'm now unsure if i have brought the right tool and hope you can set me
right before i try holding my new shiny piece of steel against a
spinning piece of wood.

Mark

--
Woodborg


Hello Mark,

A skew chisel whether round or otherwise, is not the right tool to use
on a bowl. A skew chisel is designed for spindle turning where all of
the grain is side grain. A bowl gouge or a round nose scraper are the
better choices for bowl work. I personally prefer the bowl gouge for
all bowl work. If you simply can't get rid of the ridges with the bowl
gouge, a wide, heavy round nose scraper will work very well.

Another nice tool for what you want is made from an old shallow
spindle gouge of about one inch width. Grind the bevel on the flute
side. When in use, put the flute down onto the tool rest and you have
an excellent shear scraper that works on both the inside and outside
of the bowl. I prefer this to the flat scraper because of the shearing
action that it provides without having to cant you tool off of the
tool rest.

Please use that skew to turn spindles, you can get some horrible
catches using a skew on a bowl.

Fred Holder
http://www.fholder.com

Please pardon my butting in... but I'm having trouble picturing this
scraper, Fred. Are you using it upside-down? (Resting the wings on the
toolrest; in other words, belly-up?)

-j

Hi Joan

Big gouge belly up, I got a link here to a write-up on it, I think I
remember that it was Joaz that made first mention of using it here,
anyway have a look if you like.

http://maine-web.com/woodturning/sha...er/scaper.html

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

On Jul 12, 1:09 am, JoanD'arcRoast wrote:
In article . com, Fred



Holder wrote:
On Jul 10, 8:54 am, Woodborg wrote:
I have just brought a crown round skew 12mm. I am hoping that i can use
this to finish the out side of my bowels, proir to sanding.

When i had a lesson a few years back, the guy had a sort of round skew
which finished the outside of the bowel nicely. I can't remember if
this had a straight across blade finish or was a curve.

I'm now unsure if i have brought the right tool and hope you can set me
right before i try holding my new shiny piece of steel against a
spinning piece of wood.

Mark

--
Woodborg

Hello Mark,

A skew chisel whether round or otherwise, is not the right tool to use
on a bowl. A skew chisel is designed for spindle turning where all of
the grain is side grain. A bowl gouge or a round nose scraper are the
better choices for bowl work. I personally prefer the bowl gouge for
all bowl work. If you simply can't get rid of the ridges with the bowl
gouge, a wide, heavy round nose scraper will work very well.

Another nice tool for what you want is made from an old shallow
spindle gouge of about one inch width. Grind the bevel on the flute
side. When in use, put the flute down onto the tool rest and you have
an excellent shear scraper that works on both the inside and outside
of the bowl. I prefer this to the flat scraper because of the shearing
action that it provides without having to cant you tool off of the
tool rest.

Please use that skew to turn spindles, you can get some horrible
catches using a skew on a bowl.

Fred Holder
http://www.fholder.com

Please pardon my butting in... but I'm having trouble picturing this
scraper, Fred. Are you using it upside-down? (Resting the wings on the
toolrest; in other words, belly-up?)

-j

Video of some fat guy using a forged gouge truing the outside of a bowl.
Notice how he swings the gouge rather than pushes it when things clatter
because they aren't round. Lots easier to control on an anchored swing.
A straight edge won't allow you that luxury, only a curved one.
http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...TrueBottom.flv
Once the surface is pretty regular the bevel will guide and a shaving so
thin you can see through it can be maintained.
Thanks for the link.
I just bought a roughing gouge and was playing with different ways to use
it. I settled on a method like the video, but it is good to know I was
right.

"Toller" wrote in message
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Video of some fat guy using a forged gouge truing the outside of a bowl.
Notice how he swings the gouge rather than pushes it when things clatter
because they aren't round. Lots easier to control on an anchored swing.
A straight edge won't allow you that luxury, only a curved one.
http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...TrueBottom.flv
Once the surface is pretty regular the bevel will guide and a shaving so
thin you can see through it can be maintained.
Thanks for the link.
I just bought a roughing gouge and was playing with different ways to use
it. I settled on a method like the video, but it is good to know I was
right.

Yep, gouge 101 says to take a progressively deeper cut as a progressively
thinner shaving. Make sure you use the inherently safe practice of staying
physically above centerline and keeping leverage on your side by moving the
rest in close as often as you need.

Thanks for the link, Leo. This idea is new to me. Gonna have to try
it...

-j

In article . com,
" wrote:

Hi Joan

Big gouge belly up, I got a link here to a write-up on it, I think I
remember that it was Joaz that made first mention of using it here,
anyway have a look if you like.

http://maine-web.com/woodturning/sha...er/scaper.html

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

On Jul 12, 1:09 am, JoanD'arcRoast wrote:
In article . com, Fred



Holder wrote:
On Jul 10, 8:54 am, Woodborg wrote:
I have just brought a crown round skew 12mm. I am hoping that i can use
this to finish the out side of my bowels, proir to sanding.

When i had a lesson a few years back, the guy had a sort of round skew
which finished the outside of the bowel nicely. I can't remember if
this had a straight across blade finish or was a curve.

I'm now unsure if i have brought the right tool and hope you can set me
right before i try holding my new shiny piece of steel against a
spinning piece of wood.

Mark

--
Woodborg

Hello Mark,

A skew chisel whether round or otherwise, is not the right tool to use
on a bowl. A skew chisel is designed for spindle turning where all of
the grain is side grain. A bowl gouge or a round nose scraper are the
better choices for bowl work. I personally prefer the bowl gouge for
all bowl work. If you simply can't get rid of the ridges with the bowl
gouge, a wide, heavy round nose scraper will work very well.

Another nice tool for what you want is made from an old shallow
spindle gouge of about one inch width. Grind the bevel on the flute
side. When in use, put the flute down onto the tool rest and you have
an excellent shear scraper that works on both the inside and outside
of the bowl. I prefer this to the flat scraper because of the shearing
action that it provides without having to cant you tool off of the
tool rest.

Please use that skew to turn spindles, you can get some horrible
catches using a skew on a bowl.

Fred Holder
http://www.fholder.com

Please pardon my butting in... but I'm having trouble picturing this
scraper, Fred. Are you using it upside-down? (Resting the wings on the
toolrest; in other words, belly-up?)

-j

In article ,
JoanD'arcRoast wrote:

Thanks for the link, Leo. This idea is new to me. Gonna have to try
it...

....I've seen it work, I bought a Benjaman's Best from Penn State to use
for that

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