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Well, it finally happened. I've read about "spectatcular" catches on
the lathe, but had yet to see one. That was until two evenings ago. I had just near finished a beautiful 12" bowl of spalted maple and decided to make one final finish pass on it before sanding. A few seconds later, the gouge grabbed and the bowl basically exploded and flew all over the shop. Spectacular? Maybe, disheartening, definitely. I walked away without cleaning up my mess, disgusted. This got me to wandering, what sayings do woodworkers use to overcome or explain an unfortunate event such as this? As I walked to the house I was thinking, "don't cry over spalted maple" or "don't count your bowls before their turned". I know I've heard my grand dad say things that only fellow workers of wood understood and I wandered if anyone else out there had similar things to say. JD |
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JD wrote:
Well, it finally happened. I've read about "spectatcular" catches on the lathe, but had yet to see one. That was until two evenings ago. I had just near finished a beautiful 12" bowl of spalted maple and decided to make one final finish pass on it before sanding. A few seconds later, the gouge grabbed and the bowl basically exploded and flew all over the shop. Spectacular? Maybe, disheartening, definitely. I walked away without cleaning up my mess, disgusted. This got me to wandering, what sayings do woodworkers use to overcome or explain an unfortunate event such as this? As I walked to the house I was thinking, "don't cry over spalted maple" or "don't count your bowls before their turned". I know I've heard my grand dad say things that only fellow workers of wood understood and I wandered if anyone else out there had similar things to say. JD A catch in time saves a lot of sanding. -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA Anybody can win, unless there happens to be a second entry. |
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Oh Sh!t.
Old Guy "JD" wrote in message oups.com... Well, it finally happened. I've read about "spectatcular" catches on the lathe, but had yet to see one. That was until two evenings ago. I had just near finished a beautiful 12" bowl of spalted maple and decided to make one final finish pass on it before sanding. A few seconds later, the gouge grabbed and the bowl basically exploded and flew all over the shop. Spectacular? Maybe, disheartening, definitely. I walked away without cleaning up my mess, disgusted. This got me to wandering, what sayings do woodworkers use to overcome or explain an unfortunate event such as this? As I walked to the house I was thinking, "don't cry over spalted maple" or "don't count your bowls before their turned". I know I've heard my grand dad say things that only fellow workers of wood understood and I wandered if anyone else out there had similar things to say. JD |
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Actually, my dad used to say,
"Well, that was instructive." Old Guy "JD" wrote in message oups.com... Well, it finally happened. I've read about "spectatcular" catches on the lathe, but had yet to see one. That was until two evenings ago. I had just near finished a beautiful 12" bowl of spalted maple and decided to make one final finish pass on it before sanding. A few seconds later, the gouge grabbed and the bowl basically exploded and flew all over the shop. Spectacular? Maybe, disheartening, definitely. I walked away without cleaning up my mess, disgusted. This got me to wandering, what sayings do woodworkers use to overcome or explain an unfortunate event such as this? As I walked to the house I was thinking, "don't cry over spalted maple" or "don't count your bowls before their turned". I know I've heard my grand dad say things that only fellow workers of wood understood and I wandered if anyone else out there had similar things to say. JD |
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Old guy wrote:
Oh Sh!t. Old Guy I'm more familiar with this one. Or other simular four letter ones. Ralph |
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On Feb 22, 9:04 am, Ralph Fedorak wrote:
Old guy wrote: Oh Sh!t. Old Guy I'm more familiar with this one. Or other simular four letter ones. Ralph Yeah, i think that is something close to what I said (or screamed) just as the bowl exploded in front of me. JD |
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On Feb 22, 8:34 am, "Old guy" wrote:
Actually, my dad used to say, "Well, that was instructive." Old Guy I like that one. I guess I have been doing production type work so long that it doesn't overwhelm me. I get really ****ed, and if I am working on something really special, I am disappointed. The best way to get over the failed project is to immediately restart it. You will be surprised how much that helps. For me, it is childish I know, but I like to take the pieces of hardwood from a failed project out and use them in my smoker. Some kind of perverse, childish behavior there, but to get even I burn them up. The give their remaining existence to season my pork butts and briskets. In my own way, it makes me laugh. Robert |
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"JD" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 22, 9:04 am, Ralph Fedorak wrote: Old guy wrote: Oh Sh!t. Old Guy I'm more familiar with this one. Or other simular four letter ones. Ralph Yeah, i think that is something close to what I said (or screamed) just as the bowl exploded in front of me. Some days bring success. Others just suck cess.... |
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SH*T HAPPENS.
Get over it. Get on with it. Joy waits in the next chunk of wood. When in doubt reach for the 80 grit "gouge". All things come to he who waits unless he dies first of boredom. |
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What goes around comes around.
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Well It's my turn
My father inlaw said this to me once and now I live by it. "You have to pay for an education" Most of us might think paying for education means school taxes or college tuition. But for many of us it life experience. I think back to all my experiences in life even the horrific ones and they have all taught me something that has made me grow to the person that I am. If we all think back to all our mistakes I think we can safely say they have made us better people. Oh yeah my other saying for a turning mistake. "That's going to buren real gooooood in the shop wood stove next year" |
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"JD" wrote in news:1172148786.587411.197920
@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com: Well, it finally happened. I've read about "spectatcular" catches on the lathe, but had yet to see one. That was until two evenings ago. I had just near finished a beautiful 12" bowl of spalted maple and decided to make one final finish pass on it before sanding. A few seconds later, the gouge grabbed and the bowl basically exploded and flew all over the shop. Spectacular? Maybe, disheartening, definitely. I walked away without cleaning up my mess, disgusted. This got me to wandering, what sayings do woodworkers use to overcome or explain an unfortunate event such as this? As I walked to the house I was thinking, "don't cry over spalted maple" or "don't count your bowls before their turned". I know I've heard my grand dad say things that only fellow workers of wood understood and I wandered if anyone else out there had similar things to say. JD In my case, it's "Count your fingers. Again." I had a walnut bowl do that to me. My left hand was in bandages for 6 weeks. There's still a scar where the scraper got the base of the longest finger. Scared me spitless. It was my fault. I got careless. Never had a flatwork accident of _any_ significance cost me blood in that quantity. Back in the saddle again, wiser and more careful. As to your bowl: It's just wood. Until it's done, it's just wood. Don't count your chickens, etc. Patriarch |
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"Patriarch" wrote in message . 136... "JD" wrote in news:1172148786.587411.197920 @v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com: Well, it finally happened. I've read about "spectatcular" catches on the lathe, but had yet to see one. That was until two evenings ago. I had just near finished a beautiful 12" bowl of spalted maple and decided to make one final finish pass on it before sanding. A few seconds later, the gouge grabbed and the bowl basically exploded and flew all over the shop. Spectacular? Maybe, disheartening, definitely. I walked away without cleaning up my mess, disgusted. This got me to wandering, what sayings do woodworkers use to overcome or explain an unfortunate event such as this? As I walked to the house I was thinking, "don't cry over spalted maple" or "don't count your bowls before their turned". I know I've heard my grand dad say things that only fellow workers of wood understood and I wandered if anyone else out there had similar things to say. JD In my case, it's "Count your fingers. Again." I had a walnut bowl do that to me. My left hand was in bandages for 6 weeks. There's still a scar where the scraper got the base of the longest finger. Scared me spitless. It was my fault. I got careless. Never had a flatwork accident of _any_ significance cost me blood in that quantity. That begs the Question What is the most dangerous bit of machinary in YOUR workshop? scroll down for my answer. Back in the saddle again, wiser and more careful. As to your bowl: It's just wood. Until it's done, it's just wood. Don't count your chickens, etc. Patriarch | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | V The machine you use most because we all get complacent with that we use often and this is especially true when it is just a quick job! To a person who uses a table saw infrequently they feel it is dangerous and as such take extra care that same saw to a person who uses it daily it is just a tool so no extra care and that is when it becomes extra dangerous! |
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"If it doesn't warm the heart, it can always warm the hearth."
or a variation "If it doesn't warm my heart, it can still warm my butt." JD wrote: Well, it finally happened. I've read about "spectatcular" catches on the lathe, but had yet to see one. That was until two evenings ago. I had just near finished a beautiful 12" bowl of spalted maple and decided to make one final finish pass on it before sanding. A few seconds later, the gouge grabbed and the bowl basically exploded and flew all over the shop. Spectacular? Maybe, disheartening, definitely. I walked away without cleaning up my mess, disgusted. This got me to wandering, what sayings do woodworkers use to overcome or explain an unfortunate event such as this? As I walked to the house I was thinking, "don't cry over spalted maple" or "don't count your bowls before their turned". I know I've heard my grand dad say things that only fellow workers of wood understood and I wandered if anyone else out there had similar things to say. JD |
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"JD" wrote:
Well, it finally happened. I've read about "spectatcular" catches on the lathe, but had yet to see one. That was until two evenings ago. I had just near finished a beautiful 12" bowl of spalted maple and decided to make one final finish pass on it before sanding. A few seconds later, the gouge grabbed and the bowl basically exploded and flew all over the shop. Spectacular? Maybe, disheartening, definitely. I walked away without cleaning up my mess, disgusted. This got me to wandering, what sayings do woodworkers use to overcome or explain an unfortunate event such as this? As I walked to the house I was thinking, "don't cry over spalted maple" or "don't count your bowls before their turned". I know I've heard my grand dad say things that only fellow workers of wood understood and I wandered if anyone else out there had similar things to say. JD If you didn't get hit or impaled by any of the bits and pieces, you give thanks to the god or gods of your choice. |
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Robert wrote: "..... For me, it is childish I know, but I like to take
the pieces of hardwood from a failed project out and use them in my smoker. Some kind of perverse, childish behavior there, but to get even I burn them up. The give their remaining existence to season my pork butts and briskets. ------------------------------ I also liked "Well that was instructive" the best. Robert, I sort of do what you do, I get angry at the wood because it "spoke to me" and I didn't like what it said. I take the failed project off the lathe right to the bandsaw and slice it like a loaf of bread cussing at every slice. It does my soul good. : ) Ruth www.torne-lignum.com |
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On Feb 22, 7:06 pm, wrote:
I take the failed project off the lathe right to the bandsaw and slice it like a loaf of bread cussing at every slice. It does my soul good. : ) Ruthwww.torne-lignum.com LOL!!! I thought I was bad! I love it, Ruth! Like Charlotte Manson, the thought of you sawing sawing up your projects into little pieces is great. Might try that in the off bbq season myself. Robert |
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Lobby Dosser wrote:
If you didn't get hit or impaled by any of the bits and pieces, you give thanks to the god or gods of your choice. I'm with Mr. Lobby Dosser on that one. I've only had a couple 'explosions' on the lathe so I don't have a formal strategy for dealing with such things but, so far, here's what I've noticed that I do: When things go keflooey. I stand very still for a moment and take inventory. I try to recall what I was doing a moment ago, while the chuck still had a bowl in it. What sounds did the wood give me of impending doom? Then I reach over and grab another blank. When I was learning to be a die-maker, my die leader had a very useful phrase: "VLE" Which means "That's a Valuable Learning Experience." Die makers are in school all day, every day. We have lots of VLE's. Sometimes because we've learned what WILL work, sometimes because we've learned what WON'T. I've found that this part of 'the hands-on life' has carried over into my woodworking. I just shipped about $150 worth of VLE tonight and I am SOOOO GLAD it's outta here! Bill -- I am disillusioned enough to know that no man's opinion on any subject is worth a **** unless backed up with enough genuine information to make him really know what he's talking about. H. P. Lovecraft --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000716-1, 02/22/2007 Tested on: 2/23/2007 1:21:50 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:34:32 GMT, "Old guy" wrote:
Actually, my dad used to say, "Well, that was instructive." Old Guy Neat. Being in France, I quote Brassens "Le temps ne fait rien ŕ l'affaire, quand on est con on est con." in English, roughly : age makes no difference, once an idiot always an idiot. But I don't takemy abuse too personally :-)) only one p in my real address / un seul p dans ma véritable adresse |
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On Feb 22, 2:44 pm, "Not for publication"
wrote: "Patriarch" wrote in message . 136... "JD" wrote in news:1172148786.587411.197920 @v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com: Well, it finally happened. I've read about "spectatcular" catches on the lathe, but had yet to see one. That was until two evenings ago. I had just near finished a beautiful 12" bowl of spalted maple and decided to make one final finish pass on it before sanding. A few seconds later, the gouge grabbed and the bowl basically exploded and flew all over the shop. Spectacular? Maybe, disheartening, definitely. I walked away without cleaning up my mess, disgusted. This got me to wandering, what sayings do woodworkers use to overcome or explain an unfortunate event such as this? As I walked to the house I was thinking, "don't cry over spalted maple" or "don't count your bowls before their turned". I know I've heard my grand dad say things that only fellow workers of wood understood and I wandered if anyone else out there had similar things to say. JD In my case, it's "Count your fingers. Again." I had a walnut bowl do that to me. My left hand was in bandages for 6 weeks. There's still a scar where the scraper got the base of the longest finger. Scared me spitless. It was my fault. I got careless. Never had a flatwork accident of _any_ significance cost me blood in that quantity. That begs the Question What is the most dangerous bit of machinary in YOUR workshop? scroll down for my answer. Back in the saddle again, wiser and more careful. As to your bowl: It's just wood. Until it's done, it's just wood. Don't count your chickens, etc. Patriarch | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | V The machine you use most because we all get complacent with that we use often and this is especially true when it is just a quick job! To a person who uses a table saw infrequently they feel it is dangerous and as such take extra care that same saw to a person who uses it daily it is just a tool so no extra care and that is when it becomes extra dangerous! You know, thats is absolutly true. Grand dad waves with three fingers on one hand, thanks to the tablesaw that he had used for the past 40 years to build the homes he built. He also walks with a slight limp in his right leg from forgetting to use his brain one day and using his leg as a saw horse to cut a 2X4 to length (he laughs at himself on this brain fart moment although not at the time of the incidient). We threatened putting rubber blades on all his tools since both these accidents occurred within about 2 months of one another. He didn't like the joke. JD |
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On 22 Feb 2007 04:53:06 -0800, "JD" wrote:
Well, it finally happened. I've read about "spectatcular" catches on the lathe, but had yet to see one. That was until two evenings ago. I had just near finished a beautiful 12" bowl of spalted maple and decided to make one final finish pass on it before sanding. A few seconds later, the gouge grabbed and the bowl basically exploded and flew all over the shop. Spectacular? Maybe, disheartening, definitely. I walked away without cleaning up my mess, disgusted. This got me to wandering, what sayings do woodworkers use to overcome or explain an unfortunate event such as this? As I walked to the house I was thinking, "don't cry over spalted maple" or "don't count your bowls before their turned". I know I've heard my grand dad say things that only fellow workers of wood understood and I wandered if anyone else out there had similar things to say. I know I'm fond of telling myself and others the following: If you're not willing to f**k up, you're never going to be able to do *anything*. Works for me, anyhow. Those who only see the finished work I show them think I'm terribly good at all sorts of things- but they don't see my scrap bin! The whole secret to doing anything in life is to remember that when you get knocked down, you just have to keep getting back up- the only other alternative is to lay down and die. |
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On 22 Feb 2007 11:02:22 -0800, "burly pete"
wrote: Well It's my turn My father inlaw said this to me once and now I live by it. "You have to pay for an education" Most of us might think paying for education means school taxes or college tuition. But for many of us it life experience. I think back to all my experiences in life even the horrific ones and they have all taught me something that has made me grow to the person that I am. If we all think back to all our mistakes I think we can safely say they have made us better people. Man oh man, is that a good one. Consider it stolen! |
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a word of advice from mother
from the day you where born, til you ride in a hurse, there's nothing so bad, that it couldn't be worse. ross www.highislandexport.com |
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I've anointed some of my biggest mistakes with a superfluous array of
words.......but none that I care to post..........:-) Barry "JD" wrote in message oups.com... Well, it finally happened. I've read about "spectatcular" catches on the lathe, but had yet to see one. That was until two evenings ago. I had just near finished a beautiful 12" bowl of spalted maple and decided to make one final finish pass on it before sanding. A few seconds later, the gouge grabbed and the bowl basically exploded and flew all over the shop. Spectacular? Maybe, disheartening, definitely. I walked away without cleaning up my mess, disgusted. This got me to wandering, what sayings do woodworkers use to overcome or explain an unfortunate event such as this? As I walked to the house I was thinking, "don't cry over spalted maple" or "don't count your bowls before their turned". I know I've heard my grand dad say things that only fellow workers of wood understood and I wandered if anyone else out there had similar things to say. JD |
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The only people that make mistakes , Are the ones that do something. Count your fingers and start again. On 22 Feb 2007 04:53:06 -0800, "JD" wrote: Well, it finally happened. I've read about "spectatcular" catches on the lathe, but had yet to see one. That was until two evenings ago. I had just near finished a beautiful 12" bowl of spalted maple and decided to make one final finish pass on it before sanding. A few seconds later, the gouge grabbed and the bowl basically exploded and flew all over the shop. Spectacular? Maybe, disheartening, definitely. I walked away without cleaning up my mess, disgusted. This got me to wandering, what sayings do woodworkers use to overcome or explain an unfortunate event such as this? As I walked to the house I was thinking, "don't cry over spalted maple" or "don't count your bowls before their turned". I know I've heard my grand dad say things that only fellow workers of wood understood and I wandered if anyone else out there had similar things to say. JD |
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