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Simple stand to trim bowl blanks with a chain saw
This post is for fellow beginners who use chain saws to shape bowl
blanks since they don't have big band saws. I was using an electric chain saw to shape the blanks using my foot to hold the blanks in place until realizing the more times you do this the better the chance you injure your foot. Trent Bosch has a video on bowls where he demonstrates a stand to hold bowels for carving after they are turned. I started wondering if there was a way to make something similar but simpler to hold bowl blanks whle cutting off the corners so they fit on a lathe. Bosch's stand used compressed air and you could screw a faceplate to it. That would be big bucks. This is a link to something much simpler and cheaper you may want to do: http://warpedwoodturner.blogspot.com...blank-cutting- stand.html The stand consists of two floor flanges connected to a piece of pipe. One flange is attached to a wooden stand formerly used under the axle of a light to keep the wheels off the ground. The other floor flange is screwed to the log after cutting it in half. The top flange is 4" in diameter and works fine with a 4" faceplate if you mark the wood before removing the top floor flange. (I should add 'floor flange' is what the lavel on the thing said. I am not a plumber). |
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Simple stand to trim bowl blanks with a chain saw
wrote in message ups.com... This post is for fellow beginners who use chain saws to shape bowl blanks since they don't have big band saws. I was using an electric chain saw to shape the blanks using my foot to hold the blanks in place until realizing the more times you do this the better the chance you injure your foot. Trent Bosch has a video on bowls where he demonstrates a stand to hold bowels for carving after they are turned. I started wondering if there was a way to make something similar but simpler to hold bowl blanks whle cutting off the corners so they fit on a lathe. Bosch's stand used compressed air and you could screw a faceplate to it. That would be big bucks. This is a link to something much simpler and cheaper you may want to do: http://warpedwoodturner.blogspot.com...blank-cutting- stand.html The stand consists of two floor flanges connected to a piece of pipe. One flange is attached to a wooden stand formerly used under the axle of a light to keep the wheels off the ground. The other floor flange is screwed to the log after cutting it in half. The top flange is 4" in diameter and works fine with a 4" faceplate if you mark the wood before removing the top floor flange. (I should add 'floor flange' is what the lavel on the thing said. I am not a plumber). Can't get your link to work but http://warpedwoodturner.blogspot.com/ gets me there. Good idea. Have you tried turning the desam bread? It doesn't need rounding with the chain saw. BillR |
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Simple stand to trim bowl blanks with a chain saw
The link in my original post for some reason showed up with the end of
the link not in 'blue' on the 2nd line. I had not highlighted anything when I sent it so something gotboth added and lost in the translation when the e-mail was sent. If you cut and paste the ENTIRE link it hopefully will work for you (the link is on two lines and ends with html). Also, the most recent attemds at desem bread mentioned have been interesting to eat but a chain saw might have been handy with the first attempts. (but that is all for the sourdough group not this one) |
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Simple stand to trim bowl blanks with a chain saw
Prometheus:
Thanks for the feedback. I forgot to mention in the previous posts that the next version of the contraption will have mirrors at the bottom of the stand to show you what you have just cut off relative to the marked circle plus electric fans to blow the chips away from the mirrors I had thought about hanging something from the ceiling or attaching it to the walls but those ideas did not seem workable so went with something to sit on the floor. Thanks for pointing out I was working harder rather than smarter. Chiseling or shaving a flat spot on the round side of the log is obvious in hindsight. |
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Simple stand to trim bowl blanks with a chain saw
On Feb 15, 6:05 am, "twwt" wrote:
Prometheus: Thanks for the feedback. I forgot to mention in the previous posts that the next version of the contraption will have mirrors at the bottom of the stand to show you what you have just cut off relative to the marked circle plus electric fans to blow the chips away from the mirrors I had thought about hanging something from the ceiling or attaching it to the walls but those ideas did not seem workable so went with something to sit on the floor. Thanks for pointing out I was working harder rather than smarter. Chiseling or shaving a flat spot on the round side of the log is obvious in hindsight. When I used to use the chainsaw for prepping blanks, I would mark vertical lines on the round, one or two down the center (depending on how much of the pith had to be removed), and ones on the outside of the round, parallel to the center lines. This last cut would give a flat spot for the blank to sit on while I trimmed off the corners. Trimming off the corners while the bottom of the blank is round is very difficult and dangerous. I had considered a jig of some sort to help stabilize the blank, but decided that it would be too much hastle. robo hippy |
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Simple stand to trim bowl blanks with a chain saw
Actually, it is kind of easy to use a chain saw to round off a bowl blank
10" or better in diameter. The wieight is enough to stabilize it in the saw buck I use with the round side down. I draw a circle on the top and knock the corners off with the chian saw, leaving an octagon. then I use the saw to make a flat on the rounded side. Finally I cut a couple of wedges off the rounded side to make the roughing go faster and leave a couple of small bits for scrap or kindling. For smaller blanks I either leave then rectangular and knock off the corners on the lathe or put them on the band saw table, flat down. Then a circle cutout is nailed to the top and I band saw round it. I like your idea but it seems like a lot of work since I already have the buck and need one. It is on the tips page at ttp://aroundthewoods.com/tips.shtml and in use at http://aroundthewoods.com/firewood.shtml about half way doen in each case. -- God bless and safe turning Darrell Feltmate Truro, NS Canada www.aroundthewoods.com "robo hippy" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 15, 6:05 am, "twwt" wrote: Prometheus: Thanks for the feedback. I forgot to mention in the previous posts that the next version of the contraption will have mirrors at the bottom of the stand to show you what you have just cut off relative to the marked circle plus electric fans to blow the chips away from the mirrors I had thought about hanging something from the ceiling or attaching it to the walls but those ideas did not seem workable so went with something to sit on the floor. Thanks for pointing out I was working harder rather than smarter. Chiseling or shaving a flat spot on the round side of the log is obvious in hindsight. When I used to use the chainsaw for prepping blanks, I would mark vertical lines on the round, one or two down the center (depending on how much of the pith had to be removed), and ones on the outside of the round, parallel to the center lines. This last cut would give a flat spot for the blank to sit on while I trimmed off the corners. Trimming off the corners while the bottom of the blank is round is very difficult and dangerous. I had considered a jig of some sort to help stabilize the blank, but decided that it would be too much hastle. robo hippy |
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Simple stand to trim bowl blanks with a chain saw
"Darrell Feltmate" wrote in message news:Tp9Bh.81892$Y6.24681@edtnps89... Actually, it is kind of easy to use a chain saw to round off a bowl blank 10" or better in diameter. The wieight is enough to stabilize it in the saw buck I use with the round side down. I draw a circle on the top and knock the corners off with the chian saw, leaving an octagon. then I use the saw to make a flat on the rounded side. Finally I cut a couple of wedges off the rounded side to make the roughing go faster and leave a couple of small bits for scrap or kindling. When I can, I'd rather bandsaw, but those wedges certainly do make good kindling, don't they? Enough substance to the thick end to be more than a flash, and easy to ignite on the thin. Set 'em on a bed of lathe shavings and it's instant fire! |
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Simple stand to trim bowl blanks with a chain saw
Sure helps on these -30C with the wind chill days.
-- God bless and safe turning Darrell Feltmate Truro, NS Canada www.aroundthewoods.com "George" wrote in message t... "Darrell Feltmate" wrote in message news:Tp9Bh.81892$Y6.24681@edtnps89... Actually, it is kind of easy to use a chain saw to round off a bowl blank 10" or better in diameter. The wieight is enough to stabilize it in the saw buck I use with the round side down. I draw a circle on the top and knock the corners off with the chian saw, leaving an octagon. then I use the saw to make a flat on the rounded side. Finally I cut a couple of wedges off the rounded side to make the roughing go faster and leave a couple of small bits for scrap or kindling. When I can, I'd rather bandsaw, but those wedges certainly do make good kindling, don't they? Enough substance to the thick end to be more than a flash, and easy to ignite on the thin. Set 'em on a bed of lathe shavings and it's instant fire! |
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Simple stand to trim bowl blanks with a chain saw
On 15 Feb 2007 06:05:21 -0800, "twwt" wrote:
Prometheus: Thanks for the feedback. I forgot to mention in the previous posts that the next version of the contraption will have mirrors at the bottom of the stand to show you what you have just cut off relative to the marked circle plus electric fans to blow the chips away from the mirrors I had thought about hanging something from the ceiling or attaching it to the walls but those ideas did not seem workable so went with something to sit on the floor. Thanks for pointing out I was working harder rather than smarter. Chiseling or shaving a flat spot on the round side of the log is obvious in hindsight. No problem. Though your stand has got me wondering now... with the way it's held up off the ground on a pipe like that, I'd be interesting to see what a guy could do by making an arm of some sort that went from that pipe, around the wood, and bolted to a cheap electric chainsaw to make a sort of big flycutter to trim blanks to round. I'll confess to not knowing that much about chainsaws, though- could be that the idea has no merit at all. It seems kind of strange to admit it given my woodturning hobby, but using a chainsaw is about the last thing I ever feel like doing- if it weren't for that, I'd probably turn far more often. I'm going to make your jig, though- it makes an awful lot of sense to me, and is almost certain to make cutting blanks more enjoyable. |
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