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grinder at Woodcraft onsale this month - any good???
Hello,
I am just starting to get a few things together to start woodturning. I am looking at this grinder: http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx...lySpecial=True 8" Slow Speed Grinder #144290 Does anyone know if this grinder is any good? Thank you for any replies. Marvin |
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grinder at Woodcraft onsale this month - any good???
It works just fine for me!
You'll probably want to get better wheels and use the Oneway Wheel Balancing kit. Matt Heffron Inland Woodturners "espressoMarv" wrote in message oups.com... Hello, I am just starting to get a few things together to start woodturning. I am looking at this grinder: http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx...lySpecial=True 8" Slow Speed Grinder #144290 Does anyone know if this grinder is any good? Thank you for any replies. Marvin |
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Hi Marvin
If you are able to go to the store, and don't have to maillorder the grinder, then ask if they will trial run the grinder in the store, that's what I did last year and good I did the first one they tried was walking the floor, the second one was much better, not perfect mind you, but I was able to get the wheels to run straight, and the grinder works OK, mine doesn't like it cold though, works better when the shop is warm. Make sure you also get a wheel dresser, a star dresser gives the best open wheel surface, but a diamond dresser works fine also, you have to dress your wheels whenever they glaze up or the surface gets grooved. If you can find a used Baldor or Stanley, you'd be better off in my opinion, just my 2 cents. http://homepage.mac.com/l.vanderloo/PhotoAlbum25.html Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo espressoMarv wrote: Hello, I am just starting to get a few things together to start woodturning. I am looking at this grinder: http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx...lySpecial=True 8" Slow Speed Grinder #144290 Does anyone know if this grinder is any good? Thank you for any replies. Marvin |
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Marvin
I may be odd man out here, but here goes. I have heard from others that the slow speed grinder from Woodcraft is fine. On the other hand, I like a high speed grinder. I leave a medium grey wheel on one side for rough grinding such as is needed if a nail was imbedded in the turning wood (ouch) and the tool nicks. For the other wheel I use an 80 grit aluminum oxide. Build or buy a grinding jig and most of your sharpening troubles are over. Check my web site for one solution. ______ God bless and safe turning Darrell Feltmate. Truro, NS, Canada www.aroundthewoods.com "espressoMarv" wrote in message oups.com... Hello, I am just starting to get a few things together to start woodturning. I am looking at this grinder: http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx...lySpecial=True 8" Slow Speed Grinder #144290 Does anyone know if this grinder is any good? Thank you for any replies. Marvin |
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Darrell:
You are not the only odd man out -- I hate slow speed grinders -- way too slow. Luckily I got a chance to try one for a weekend (an in-store demo) before plunking down my money. I use a 36 grit Alum Oxide for rough and, like you, use 80 grit for all other grinding. When I modify a factory bowl gouge to Irish grind, the 36 makes quick work of the task. For the record -- I use a 7" Baldor (high speed) with the Oneway balancing system -- like butter! Bill Darrell Feltmate wrote: Marvin I may be odd man out here, but here goes. I have heard from others that the slow speed grinder from Woodcraft is fine. On the other hand, I like a high speed grinder. I leave a medium grey wheel on one side for rough grinding such as is needed if a nail was imbedded in the turning wood (ouch) and the tool nicks. For the other wheel I use an 80 grit aluminum oxide. Build or buy a grinding jig and most of your sharpening troubles are over. Check my web site for one solution. ______ God bless and safe turning Darrell Feltmate. Truro, NS, Canada www.aroundthewoods.com "espressoMarv" wrote in message oups.com... Hello, I am just starting to get a few things together to start woodturning. I am looking at this grinder: http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx...lySpecial=True 8" Slow Speed Grinder #144290 Does anyone know if this grinder is any good? Thank you for any replies. Marvin |
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grinder at Woodcraft onsale this month - any good??? - I WOULDN'T CHANCE IT!!!
Hi Marv,
I would stay away from any Chinese motors. I don't care if Woodcraft carries them. It's too bad to see a store that I've purchased from for nearly 30 years and visited the original Woburn store and spent many fun hours at start carrying these inferior motors. I have a Delta 8" Slow Speed. I don't even have it bolted down and it just purrs. They were all sold out at Western Tool so I asked if I could buy the demo. They gladly turned it on for me and I was surprised at the smoothness. Upon running at home I removed he right wheel and put on a fine Norton White wheel. On the left side I have a medium-fine grit 1" x 8" BriteBoy Vulcanized Rubber Abrasive wheel that does not burn period and hons to a mirror shine fast and easy. I would rate the Baldor motors as #1. Delta are a good bet for #2. If you were low on cash I would suggest hat you start thinking of USED. I bought a nice 10" 3450 all mounted on a heavy Baldor-type cast iron pedestal for $50.00. It was the Industrial type with lighted wheel guards! Check out the used dealers that sell surplus lathes and milling machines. Often they buy used tools in large lots when they buy out shops going out of business. They will take everything that they have but their primary interest is in the big ticket lathes and mills. They will often have rows of grinders, buffers and wire wheel machines as well as lots of other interesting little machines and tools that aren't worth an awful lot to them. Shop them up, go look in person and make them an offer. Second way that I have shopped over the years is to place wanted ads in several of the nearest newspapers or shipping guides. Call it proactive shopping of the classifieds! I have watched classifieds for months without seeing exactly what I am looking for to show up. A few years back when I was setting up my blacksmith shop I ran a couple want ads. I had the phone ringing off the hook with folks who had anvils, forges, hammers, tongs, hardies, pritchels, handled swages, swage blocks, hot chisels, of all sizes, conditions, and prices. I even had a could folks offer to meet me half way so that I could travel to see what they had! It wasn't junk either. I got a minty Hay Budden anvil, a big Buffalo RR Forge. To me you can't get much better than getting a good used grinder. Well you can IMHO, you can get a Baldor but then you might find a USED BALDOR on Pedestal for $50 BUCKS! Good Luck! JimC espressoMarv wrote: Hello, I am just starting to get a few things together to start woodturning. I am looking at this grinder: http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx...lySpecial=True 8" Slow Speed Grinder #144290 Does anyone know if this grinder is any good? Thank you for any replies. Marvin |
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grinder at Woodcraft onsale this month - any good??? - I WOULDN'T CHANCE IT!!!
Well, the slow speed grinder from Woodcraft does a good job, especially
if you don't have the cash for a better grinder. The biggest complaint I had with the one that I have is that it takes very little pressure to bog the motor down. My Baldor is very hard to bog down, and doesn't need to be bolted down because it is heavy and runs so smooth. If you are using jigs, then I don't see that slow or high speed makes any difference, unless you are shaping a tool, rather than touching it up. I saved my Woodcraft grinder for that with a 36 grit wheel on it. robo hippy JimC wrote: Hi Marv, I would stay away from any Chinese motors. I don't care if Woodcraft carries them. It's too bad to see a store that I've purchased from for nearly 30 years and visited the original Woburn store and spent many fun hours at start carrying these inferior motors. I have a Delta 8" Slow Speed. I don't even have it bolted down and it just purrs. They were all sold out at Western Tool so I asked if I could buy the demo. They gladly turned it on for me and I was surprised at the smoothness. Upon running at home I removed he right wheel and put on a fine Norton White wheel. On the left side I have a medium-fine grit 1" x 8" BriteBoy Vulcanized Rubber Abrasive wheel that does not burn period and hons to a mirror shine fast and easy. I would rate the Baldor motors as #1. Delta are a good bet for #2. If you were low on cash I would suggest hat you start thinking of USED. I bought a nice 10" 3450 all mounted on a heavy Baldor-type cast iron pedestal for $50.00. It was the Industrial type with lighted wheel guards! Check out the used dealers that sell surplus lathes and milling machines. Often they buy used tools in large lots when they buy out shops going out of business. They will take everything that they have but their primary interest is in the big ticket lathes and mills. They will often have rows of grinders, buffers and wire wheel machines as well as lots of other interesting little machines and tools that aren't worth an awful lot to them. Shop them up, go look in person and make them an offer. Second way that I have shopped over the years is to place wanted ads in several of the nearest newspapers or shipping guides. Call it proactive shopping of the classifieds! I have watched classifieds for months without seeing exactly what I am looking for to show up. A few years back when I was setting up my blacksmith shop I ran a couple want ads. I had the phone ringing off the hook with folks who had anvils, forges, hammers, tongs, hardies, pritchels, handled swages, swage blocks, hot chisels, of all sizes, conditions, and prices. I even had a could folks offer to meet me half way so that I could travel to see what they had! It wasn't junk either. I got a minty Hay Budden anvil, a big Buffalo RR Forge. To me you can't get much better than getting a good used grinder. Well you can IMHO, you can get a Baldor but then you might find a USED BALDOR on Pedestal for $50 BUCKS! Good Luck! JimC espressoMarv wrote: Hello, I am just starting to get a few things together to start woodturning. I am looking at this grinder: http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx...lySpecial=True 8" Slow Speed Grinder #144290 Does anyone know if this grinder is any good? Thank you for any replies. Marvin |
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grinder at Woodcraft onsale this month - any good??? - I WOULDN'T CHANCE IT!!!
Hello Matt Leo Darrell Bill Jim
Thank you for your replies. This is exactly the feedback I was looking for. As a bonus you have given me the names of good grinders that I can try to purchase used. Thank you. Marvin JimC wrote: Hi Marv, I would stay away from any Chinese motors. I don't care if Woodcraft carries them. It's too bad to see a store that I've purchased from for nearly 30 years and visited the original Woburn store and spent many fun hours at start carrying these inferior motors. I have a Delta 8" Slow Speed. I don't even have it bolted down and it just purrs. They were all sold out at Western Tool so I asked if I could buy the demo. They gladly turned it on for me and I was surprised at the smoothness. Upon running at home I removed he right wheel and put on a fine Norton White wheel. On the left side I have a medium-fine grit 1" x 8" BriteBoy Vulcanized Rubber Abrasive wheel that does not burn period and hons to a mirror shine fast and easy. I would rate the Baldor motors as #1. Delta are a good bet for #2. If you were low on cash I would suggest hat you start thinking of USED. I bought a nice 10" 3450 all mounted on a heavy Baldor-type cast iron pedestal for $50.00. It was the Industrial type with lighted wheel guards! Check out the used dealers that sell surplus lathes and milling machines. Often they buy used tools in large lots when they buy out shops going out of business. They will take everything that they have but their primary interest is in the big ticket lathes and mills. They will often have rows of grinders, buffers and wire wheel machines as well as lots of other interesting little machines and tools that aren't worth an awful lot to them. Shop them up, go look in person and make them an offer. Second way that I have shopped over the years is to place wanted ads in several of the nearest newspapers or shipping guides. Call it proactive shopping of the classifieds! I have watched classifieds for months without seeing exactly what I am looking for to show up. A few years back when I was setting up my blacksmith shop I ran a couple want ads. I had the phone ringing off the hook with folks who had anvils, forges, hammers, tongs, hardies, pritchels, handled swages, swage blocks, hot chisels, of all sizes, conditions, and prices. I even had a could folks offer to meet me half way so that I could travel to see what they had! It wasn't junk either. I got a minty Hay Budden anvil, a big Buffalo RR Forge. To me you can't get much better than getting a good used grinder. Well you can IMHO, you can get a Baldor but then you might find a USED BALDOR on Pedestal for $50 BUCKS! Good Luck! JimC espressoMarv wrote: Hello, I am just starting to get a few things together to start woodturning. I am looking at this grinder: http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx...lySpecial=True 8" Slow Speed Grinder #144290 Does anyone know if this grinder is any good? Thank you for any replies. Marvin |
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"espressoMarv" wrote:
Hello, I am just starting to get a few things together to start woodturning. I am looking at this grinder: http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx...lySpecial=True 8" Slow Speed Grinder #144290 Does anyone know if this grinder is any good? Thank you for any replies. Marvin I've had a Woodcraft slow speed for 5 or 6 years (maybe more - time flies). No walking. Not bolted down. No problems. The cheesy deflectors are the only exception for money well spent. As others have stated, you are better off if you have a local store, in case you do have issues. |
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