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Super Nova vs. Oneway Chucks
Thanks for all the comments. Since my post I have been looking at the
Vicmark. I like the idea that it is a closed chuck and therfore the inside of the chuck will stay clean. I will think about it for a while. I'm not ready to buy the chuck yet. I need some time to get the money together. Thanks again. John "WA5FDF" wrote in message oups.com... Bassboat wrote: Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to woodturning. I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe. Can someone give me some good advice? TIA. John I have a Oneway Talon, SuperNova2, and a Vicmarc 120. If I was starting over I would purchase the Vicmarc chucks as I really like them better. But since I started with the Talon I will probably obtain another body to use multiple jaws. The Talon is a great chuck with nothing lacking. I don't particularly like the Nova since it tightens backwards and has been balky since I got it. It will stop tightening or loosening and you have to move the wrench to the other slot and then it will go. I keep it because I have several face plate rings I use on segmented projects to be able to quickly take on and off. Frankly I don't truly believe you can go wrong if you stick with a good brand chuck. Like everything chucks, lathes, and all other things everyone has a pet or likes a feature of one or the other. Main thing is look at the jaw selection and see which one offers jaws that better fit your turnings. Vernon |
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Super Nova vs. Oneway Chucks
the new novas are also closed but that really should not be a problem as
long as you clean your tools. I've never had that kind of problem with my older super novas Bassboat wrote: Thanks for all the comments. Since my post I have been looking at the Vicmark. I like the idea that it is a closed chuck and therfore the inside of the chuck will stay clean. I will think about it for a while. I'm not ready to buy the chuck yet. I need some time to get the money together. Thanks again. John "WA5FDF" wrote in message oups.com... Bassboat wrote: Hi, my name is John and I am new to this group. I am also new to woodturning. I would like some advice as to which chuck to buy for my Jet 14-42 lathe. Can someone give me some good advice? TIA. John I have a Oneway Talon, SuperNova2, and a Vicmarc 120. If I was starting over I would purchase the Vicmarc chucks as I really like them better. But since I started with the Talon I will probably obtain another body to use multiple jaws. The Talon is a great chuck with nothing lacking. I don't particularly like the Nova since it tightens backwards and has been balky since I got it. It will stop tightening or loosening and you have to move the wrench to the other slot and then it will go. I keep it because I have several face plate rings I use on segmented projects to be able to quickly take on and off. Frankly I don't truly believe you can go wrong if you stick with a good brand chuck. Like everything chucks, lathes, and all other things everyone has a pet or likes a feature of one or the other. Main thing is look at the jaw selection and see which one offers jaws that better fit your turnings. Vernon |
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just because it's closed doesn't mean that it will stay clean - but it
stays much cleaner - figure on opening it and cleaning it out every 300 hours or so of turning -=== i just made that number up - it will eventually get sticky then you just open it and clean it - the open chucks can be cleaned with a blast of air, but they need to be opened and cleaned for real much more often On Mon, 1 May 2006 18:38:23 -0500, "Bassboat" wrote: Thanks for all the comments. Since my post I have been looking at the Vicmark. I like the idea that it is a closed chuck and therfore the inside of the chuck will stay clean. I will think about it for a while. I'm not ready to buy the chuck yet. I need some time to get the money together. Thanks again. John Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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"William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" wrote in message ... just because it's closed doesn't mean that it will stay clean - but it stays much cleaner - figure on opening it and cleaning it out every 300 hours or so of turning -=== i just made that number up - it will eventually get sticky then you just open it and clean it - the open chucks can be cleaned with a blast of air, but they need to be opened and cleaned for real much more often With the front having the same access holes to the scroll, regardless the enclosed rear, I don't understand how the open style needs more cleaning. Neither style requires much if you don't get finishes all over them. It's mostly dust, and as others have mentioned, compressed air or a brush cleans that up fine. I have a couple "closed" back standard NOVAs of a dozen years or more vintage, and a couple of open-backed supers. Seems no real difference in times between cleaning. Leaving the chuck face up on the table behind the lathe where it can fill up with shavings and dust is counted as abuse, not standard operation. If something seems wrong with _any_ chuck, troubleshoot and repair as required. Beyond comprehension that someone would allow the trouble to continue. If you get the Super, and it's a great chuck, just remember that it tightens right, loosens left in the expansion mode. Some people seem to enjoy parading their incomprehension as if it were a fault of the device. One can only imagine what the blade on their tablesaw must look like if they can't figure out a left-hand thread. "Leftie Lucy doesn't spread 'em for chuck." |
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Thanks again for the info. It is really nice to get so many good tips.
John "George" George@least wrote in message ... "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" wrote in message ... just because it's closed doesn't mean that it will stay clean - but it stays much cleaner - figure on opening it and cleaning it out every 300 hours or so of turning -=== i just made that number up - it will eventually get sticky then you just open it and clean it - the open chucks can be cleaned with a blast of air, but they need to be opened and cleaned for real much more often With the front having the same access holes to the scroll, regardless the enclosed rear, I don't understand how the open style needs more cleaning. Neither style requires much if you don't get finishes all over them. It's mostly dust, and as others have mentioned, compressed air or a brush cleans that up fine. I have a couple "closed" back standard NOVAs of a dozen years or more vintage, and a couple of open-backed supers. Seems no real difference in times between cleaning. Leaving the chuck face up on the table behind the lathe where it can fill up with shavings and dust is counted as abuse, not standard operation. If something seems wrong with _any_ chuck, troubleshoot and repair as required. Beyond comprehension that someone would allow the trouble to continue. If you get the Super, and it's a great chuck, just remember that it tightens right, loosens left in the expansion mode. Some people seem to enjoy parading their incomprehension as if it were a fault of the device. One can only imagine what the blade on their tablesaw must look like if they can't figure out a left-hand thread. "Leftie Lucy doesn't spread 'em for chuck." |
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"Bassboat" writes:
Thanks for all the comments. Since my post I have been looking at the Vicmark. I like the idea that it is a closed chuck and therfore the inside of the chuck will stay clean. I will think about it for a while. I'm not ready to buy the chuck yet. I need some time to get the money together. Thanks again. Price the chucks with 4 sets of jaws, and compare the price with one of the package deals from kmstools.com This is the reason I went with the Nova family. -- Sending unsolicited commercial e-mail to this account incurs a fee of $500 per message, and acknowledges the legality of this contract. |
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Bruce Barnett wrote: ... Price the chucks with 4 sets of jaws, and compare the price with one of the package deals from kmstools.com This is the reason I went with the Nova family. Bob actually slightly customized a package for me, got a reasonable deal. Check their ebay store at http://stores.ebay.com/Woodworker-Sp...eZstrkQ3amefsQ 3amesstQQtZkm -- -------------------------------------------------------- Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read RV and Camping FAQ can be found at http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv |
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"Bassboat" wrote in message ... Thanks for all the comments. Since my post I have been looking at the Vicmark. I like the idea that it is a closed chuck and therfore the inside of the chuck will stay clean. I will think about it for a while. I'm not ready to buy the chuck yet. I need some time to get the money together. Thanks again. John--I, like you, have a 1442. I have only the larger Vicmarc, so I can't offer a comparison with other chucks. I can, however, say that the Vic is a precision tool that meet my needs perfectly without exception. The 14" Adjusta-jaws are wonderful for reverse-chucking bowls to finish off the bases. Thanks to the 1442's pivoting headstock I can reverse a 15" bowl with ease. Operating on the assumption that Vicmarc's lathes are built as precisely as this chuck, my next lathe will likely be a Vicmarc VL300. Max |
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On Wed, 03 May 2006 12:48:44 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote:
"Bassboat" wrote in message ... Thanks for all the comments. Since my post I have been looking at the Vicmark. I like the idea that it is a closed chuck and therfore the inside of the chuck will stay clean. I will think about it for a while. I'm not ready to buy the chuck yet. I need some time to get the money together. Thanks again. John--I, like you, have a 1442. I have only the larger Vicmarc, so I can't offer a comparison with other chucks. I can, however, say that the Vic is a precision tool that meet my needs perfectly without exception. The 14" Adjusta-jaws are wonderful for reverse-chucking bowls to finish off the bases. Thanks to the 1442's pivoting headstock I can reverse a 15" bowl with ease. Operating on the assumption that Vicmarc's lathes are built as precisely as this chuck, my next lathe will likely be a Vicmarc VL300. Max I have the 1442VS and 2 talon chucks... My brother is getting back into turning and has been researching chucks for a while.. he's leaning toward the talon or stronghold (overkill, IMHO) but has been getting demos of several... I have no experience with vicmark, but he said that they were the "nicest looking" chuck.. lol (He's a retired jet mechanic) Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm |
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Thanks again for all the additional info. John
"mac davis" wrote in message ... On Wed, 03 May 2006 12:48:44 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote: "Bassboat" wrote in message ... Thanks for all the comments. Since my post I have been looking at the Vicmark. I like the idea that it is a closed chuck and therfore the inside of the chuck will stay clean. I will think about it for a while. I'm not ready to buy the chuck yet. I need some time to get the money together. Thanks again. John--I, like you, have a 1442. I have only the larger Vicmarc, so I can't offer a comparison with other chucks. I can, however, say that the Vic is a precision tool that meet my needs perfectly without exception. The 14" Adjusta-jaws are wonderful for reverse-chucking bowls to finish off the bases. Thanks to the 1442's pivoting headstock I can reverse a 15" bowl with ease. Operating on the assumption that Vicmarc's lathes are built as precisely as this chuck, my next lathe will likely be a Vicmarc VL300. Max I have the 1442VS and 2 talon chucks... My brother is getting back into turning and has been researching chucks for a while.. he's leaning toward the talon or stronghold (overkill, IMHO) but has been getting demos of several... I have no experience with vicmark, but he said that they were the "nicest looking" chuck.. lol (He's a retired jet mechanic) Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm |
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"mac davis" wrote in message ... On Wed, 03 May 2006 12:48:44 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote: "Bassboat" wrote in message ... Thanks for all the comments. Since my post I have been looking at the Vicmark. I like the idea that it is a closed chuck and therfore the inside of the chuck will stay clean. I will think about it for a while. I'm not ready to buy the chuck yet. I need some time to get the money together. Thanks again. John--I, like you, have a 1442. I have only the larger Vicmarc, so I can't offer a comparison with other chucks. I can, however, say that the Vic is a precision tool that meet my needs perfectly without exception. The 14" Adjusta-jaws are wonderful for reverse-chucking bowls to finish off the bases. Thanks to the 1442's pivoting headstock I can reverse a 15" bowl with ease. Operating on the assumption that Vicmarc's lathes are built as precisely as this chuck, my next lathe will likely be a Vicmarc VL300. Max I have the 1442VS and 2 talon chucks... My brother is getting back into turning and has been researching chucks for a while.. he's leaning toward the talon or stronghold (overkill, IMHO) but has been getting demos of several... I have no experience with vicmark, but he said that they were the "nicest looking" chuck.. lol (He's a retired jet mechanic) Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm Keep in mind that the Stronghold and Talon each have jaws available that are not supplied for the other. |
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