I've just been loaned a Trend Airshield powered respirator by a friend to
"try before I buy". It seems to work really well but the only things which
are really putting me off a

(i) the cost - £154 seems a huge amount of money to pay for some bits of
plastic, a small fan, a battery, a battery charger and a couple of filters.
(ii) the plastic seems rather thin - I'm sure that it wouldn't take too much
to damage it - although I understand that if it were much thicker it would
adversely increase the weight.
(iii) the user manual says that the life of the product should be about 3
years - I assume this would be based on daily use. I'd probably be using it
a couple of times a week so I would guess that this would extend it's actual
life - otherwise it would be costing me about £50 per year, plus spare
filters, plus recharging.
(iv) cost of consumables is quite high - so not only is the purchase cost
high but the running costs would be high as well. Depends on how often I'd
need to change filters I suppose.

And yet when I look at the benefits it's actually rather tempting. I haven't
really found a comparable product in it's class in the UK to compare it with
so I don't know whether this is a good deal or not - or whether to continue
with the canister type respirator which is sweaty round the chin, full of
glop after a short time and the elastic straps of which would probably
damage my new specs. I'd be interested to hear your
views/experiences/recommendations.

Thanks in advance

Ron Headon
Swindon, England

Ron
I have a 3M AS200. It has the battery on your belt and the motor and
filter in the hat. With a couple replacement parts it cost about $600US
and I love it and recommend it. Forget the cost of the parts and look at
the benefit to your health. If you are more likely to use it because it
is more comfortable or more compatible with your glasses then the money
is nothing compared to your ability to breathe 15 years from now.
David


Ron Headon wrote:
I've just been loaned a Trend Airshield powered respirator by a friend to
"try before I buy". It seems to work really well but the only things which
are really putting me off a

(i) the cost - £154 seems a huge amount of money to pay for some bits of
plastic, a small fan, a battery, a battery charger and a couple of filters.
(ii) the plastic seems rather thin - I'm sure that it wouldn't take too much
to damage it - although I understand that if it were much thicker it would
adversely increase the weight.
(iii) the user manual says that the life of the product should be about 3
years - I assume this would be based on daily use. I'd probably be using it
a couple of times a week so I would guess that this would extend it's actual
life - otherwise it would be costing me about £50 per year, plus spare
filters, plus recharging.
(iv) cost of consumables is quite high - so not only is the purchase cost
high but the running costs would be high as well. Depends on how often I'd
need to change filters I suppose.

And yet when I look at the benefits it's actually rather tempting. I haven't
really found a comparable product in it's class in the UK to compare it with
so I don't know whether this is a good deal or not - or whether to continue
with the canister type respirator which is sweaty round the chin, full of
glop after a short time and the elastic straps of which would probably
damage my new specs. I'd be interested to hear your
views/experiences/recommendations.

Thanks in advance

Ron Headon
Swindon, England

I'd like to second the 3M product - one consideration for me is that the 3M
unit I have is a full industrial hard hat with the breathing aparatus and a
face shield - that way I don't have to worry about getting smacked on the
head by something either (and yes, the hard hat part works) - one trip to
the E-room that you don't make will easily pay for the price of the unit.

I don't know what is available in the UK, but please consider something that
includes head protection as well.


"David Wade" wrote in message
...
Ron
I have a 3M AS200. It has the battery on your belt and the motor and
filter in the hat. With a couple replacement parts it cost about $600US
and I love it and recommend it. Forget the cost of the parts and look at
the benefit to your health. If you are more likely to use it because it is
more comfortable or more compatible with your glasses then the money is
nothing compared to your ability to breathe 15 years from now.
David


Ron Headon wrote:
I've just been loaned a Trend Airshield powered respirator by a friend to
"try before I buy". It seems to work really well but the only things
which
are really putting me off a

(i) the cost - £154 seems a huge amount of money to pay for some bits of
plastic, a small fan, a battery, a battery charger and a couple of
filters.
(ii) the plastic seems rather thin - I'm sure that it wouldn't take too
much
to damage it - although I understand that if it were much thicker it
would
adversely increase the weight.
(iii) the user manual says that the life of the product should be about 3
years - I assume this would be based on daily use. I'd probably be using
it
a couple of times a week so I would guess that this would extend it's
actual
life - otherwise it would be costing me about £50 per year, plus spare
filters, plus recharging.
(iv) cost of consumables is quite high - so not only is the purchase cost
high but the running costs would be high as well. Depends on how often
I'd
need to change filters I suppose.

And yet when I look at the benefits it's actually rather tempting. I
haven't
really found a comparable product in it's class in the UK to compare it
with
so I don't know whether this is a good deal or not - or whether to
continue
with the canister type respirator which is sweaty round the chin, full of
glop after a short time and the elastic straps of which would probably
damage my new specs. I'd be interested to hear your
views/experiences/recommendations.

Thanks in advance

Ron Headon
Swindon, England

David, from who did you purchase your system and would you recommend them?
Larry
"David Wade" wrote in message
...
Ron
I have a 3M AS200. It has the battery on your belt and the motor and
filter in the hat. With a couple replacement parts it cost about $600US
and I love it and recommend it. Forget the cost of the parts and look at
the benefit to your health. If you are more likely to use it because it is
more comfortable or more compatible with your glasses then the money is
nothing compared to your ability to breathe 15 years from now.
David


Ron Headon wrote:
I've just been loaned a Trend Airshield powered respirator by a friend to
"try before I buy". It seems to work really well but the only things
which
are really putting me off a

(i) the cost - £154 seems a huge amount of money to pay for some bits of
plastic, a small fan, a battery, a battery charger and a couple of
filters.
(ii) the plastic seems rather thin - I'm sure that it wouldn't take too
much
to damage it - although I understand that if it were much thicker it
would
adversely increase the weight.
(iii) the user manual says that the life of the product should be about 3
years - I assume this would be based on daily use. I'd probably be using
it
a couple of times a week so I would guess that this would extend it's
actual
life - otherwise it would be costing me about £50 per year, plus spare
filters, plus recharging.
(iv) cost of consumables is quite high - so not only is the purchase cost
high but the running costs would be high as well. Depends on how often
I'd
need to change filters I suppose.

And yet when I look at the benefits it's actually rather tempting. I
haven't
really found a comparable product in it's class in the UK to compare it
with
so I don't know whether this is a good deal or not - or whether to
continue
with the canister type respirator which is sweaty round the chin, full of
glop after a short time and the elastic straps of which would probably
damage my new specs. I'd be interested to hear your
views/experiences/recommendations.

Thanks in advance

Ron Headon
Swindon, England

In article 1117599824.ce485a266954b8ef5b11b25acc209331@teran ews,
"william_b_noble" wrote:

I'd like to second the 3M product - one consideration for me is that the 3M
unit I have is a full industrial hard hat with the breathing aparatus and a
face shield - that way I don't have to worry about getting smacked on the
head by something either (and yes, the hard hat part works) - one trip to
the E-room that you don't make will easily pay for the price of the unit.

I don't know what is available in the UK, but please consider something that
includes head protection as well.


The Trend does not include a hard-hat and it looks like it would be
tough to wear one.
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You have a third on the 3M unit.
I've had mine for over a year.
I turn a lot of walnut and was bothered by walnut dust.
No problems when I wear the 3M.
It's pricey, but look at it as a long term investment for your body.

Art

I have recently been given a Trend Airshield for my birthday by my wife. She
values my health as much as I do. I wouldn't be without it. It offers both
superb protection for my lungs, which are a bit tricky to replace, and also
for my eyes that I certainly can't do without. Wood dust can do enormous
harm, so the price is justified. My advice would be to buy it without
further ado.

Charlie
Oxon Woodturners

"Ron Headon" wrote in message
...
I've just been loaned a Trend Airshield powered respirator by a friend to
"try before I buy". It seems to work really well but the only things which
are really putting me off a

(i) the cost - £154 seems a huge amount of money to pay for some bits of
plastic, a small fan, a battery, a battery charger and a couple of
filters.
(ii) the plastic seems rather thin - I'm sure that it wouldn't take too
much
to damage it - although I understand that if it were much thicker it would
adversely increase the weight.
(iii) the user manual says that the life of the product should be about 3
years - I assume this would be based on daily use. I'd probably be using
it
a couple of times a week so I would guess that this would extend it's
actual
life - otherwise it would be costing me about £50 per year, plus spare
filters, plus recharging.
(iv) cost of consumables is quite high - so not only is the purchase cost
high but the running costs would be high as well. Depends on how often I'd
need to change filters I suppose.

And yet when I look at the benefits it's actually rather tempting. I
haven't
really found a comparable product in it's class in the UK to compare it
with
so I don't know whether this is a good deal or not - or whether to
continue
with the canister type respirator which is sweaty round the chin, full of
glop after a short time and the elastic straps of which would probably
damage my new specs. I'd be interested to hear your
views/experiences/recommendations.

Thanks in advance

Ron Headon
Swindon, England

Thanks Charlie. Everyone who's used them seems to speak highly of them.

Ron

"Charlie Jones" wrote in message
...
I have recently been given a Trend Airshield for my birthday by my wife.
She
values my health as much as I do. I wouldn't be without it. It offers both
superb protection for my lungs, which are a bit tricky to replace, and
also
for my eyes that I certainly can't do without. Wood dust can do enormous
harm, so the price is justified. My advice would be to buy it without
further ado.

Charlie
Oxon Woodturners

"Ron Headon" wrote in message
...
I've just been loaned a Trend Airshield powered respirator by a friend
to
"try before I buy". It seems to work really well but the only things
which
are really putting me off a

(i) the cost - £154 seems a huge amount of money to pay for some bits
of
plastic, a small fan, a battery, a battery charger and a couple of
filters.
(ii) the plastic seems rather thin - I'm sure that it wouldn't take too
much
to damage it - although I understand that if it were much thicker it
would
adversely increase the weight.
(iii) the user manual says that the life of the product should be about
3
years - I assume this would be based on daily use. I'd probably be using
it
a couple of times a week so I would guess that this would extend it's
actual
life - otherwise it would be costing me about £50 per year, plus spare
filters, plus recharging.
(iv) cost of consumables is quite high - so not only is the purchase
cost
high but the running costs would be high as well. Depends on how often
I'd
need to change filters I suppose.

And yet when I look at the benefits it's actually rather tempting. I
haven't
really found a comparable product in it's class in the UK to compare it
with
so I don't know whether this is a good deal or not - or whether to
continue
with the canister type respirator which is sweaty round the chin, full
of
glop after a short time and the elastic straps of which would probably
damage my new specs. I'd be interested to hear your
views/experiences/recommendations.

Thanks in advance

Ron Headon
Swindon, England

Ron, I have been using one for about 6 months and apart from the
recharge time (14 hours) and the weight I wouldn't be without it!

My continuing good health far outweighs the costs.

Regards,
Peter Charles Fagg
Freshwater, Isle of Wight,
United Kingdom.
www.petersplatters.co.uk
Each can do but little!
But if each DID that little,
ALL would be done!

Larry,
Purchased from Enviro Safety Products and I absolutley recommend them.
David (a satisfied customer, multiple times)

http://www.envirosafetyproducts.com/.../airstream.htm

Larry Day wrote:
David, from who did you purchase your system and would you recommend them?
Larry

second on envirosafety - that's where I got my 3-M helmet also - they may
not be the cheapest, but I never shopped around - they are very easy to deal
with, know their stuff, and give reasonable advise

"David Wade" wrote in message
...
Larry,
Purchased from Enviro Safety Products and I absolutley recommend them.
David (a satisfied customer, multiple times)

http://www.envirosafetyproducts.com/.../airstream.htm

Larry Day wrote:
David, from who did you purchase your system and would you recommend
them?
Larry

Ron I have just received my copy of the Australian Wood Review and
Terry Martin has an article in the Tool Review on Respirators worth
having a look if you can get hold of a copy.

I currently have the RACAL but no longer available and I guess by the
end of the year I will be out of spares and therefore looking for a new
system, so I am starting early with my search for the best package.

Richard
http://www.laymar-crafts.co.uk

Ron Headon wrote:
I've just been loaned a Trend Airshield powered respirator by a friend to
"try before I buy". It seems to work really well but the only things which
are really putting me off a

(i) the cost - =A3154 seems a huge amount of money to pay for some bits =
of
plastic, a small fan, a battery, a battery charger and a couple of filter=
s=2E
(ii) the plastic seems rather thin - I'm sure that it wouldn't take too m=
uch
to damage it - although I understand that if it were much thicker it would
adversely increase the weight.
(iii) the user manual says that the life of the product should be about 3
years - I assume this would be based on daily use. I'd probably be using =
it
a couple of times a week so I would guess that this would extend it's act=
ual
life - otherwise it would be costing me about =A350 per year, plus spare
filters, plus recharging.
(iv) cost of consumables is quite high - so not only is the purchase cost
high but the running costs would be high as well. Depends on how often I'd
need to change filters I suppose.

And yet when I look at the benefits it's actually rather tempting. I have=
n't
really found a comparable product in it's class in the UK to compare it w=
ith
so I don't know whether this is a good deal or not - or whether to contin=
ue
with the canister type respirator which is sweaty round the chin, full of
glop after a short time and the elastic straps of which would probably
damage my new specs. I'd be interested to hear your
views/experiences/recommendations.
=20
Thanks in advance
=20
Ron Headon
Swindon, England

wrote in message
oups.com...
Ron I have just received my copy of the Australian Wood Review and
Terry Martin has an article in the Tool Review on Respirators worth
having a look if you can get hold of a copy.

I currently have the RACAL but no longer available and I guess by the
end of the year I will be out of spares and therefore looking for a new
system, so I am starting early with my search for the best package.

Richard
http://www.laymar-crafts.co.uk

Ron Headon wrote:
I've just been loaned a Trend Airshield powered respirator by a friend to
"try before I buy". It seems to work really well but the only things which
are really putting me off a

(i) the cost - £154 seems a huge amount of money to pay for some bits of
plastic, a small fan, a battery, a battery charger and a couple of
filters.
(ii) the plastic seems rather thin - I'm sure that it wouldn't take too
much
to damage it - although I understand that if it were much thicker it would
adversely increase the weight.
(iii) the user manual says that the life of the product should be about 3
years - I assume this would be based on daily use. I'd probably be using
it
a couple of times a week so I would guess that this would extend it's
actual
life - otherwise it would be costing me about £50 per year, plus spare
filters, plus recharging.
(iv) cost of consumables is quite high - so not only is the purchase cost
high but the running costs would be high as well. Depends on how often I'd
need to change filters I suppose.

And yet when I look at the benefits it's actually rather tempting. I
haven't
really found a comparable product in it's class in the UK to compare it
with
so I don't know whether this is a good deal or not - or whether to
continue
with the canister type respirator which is sweaty round the chin, full of
glop after a short time and the elastic straps of which would probably
damage my new specs. I'd be interested to hear your
views/experiences/recommendations.

Thanks in advance

Ron Headon
Swindon, England

====Ron: I have the 3M before they sold out to RACAL. Trend is now
essentially making the same thing. I was lucky and purchased mine before 3M
sold and prices in US$ went from approx. $150 to $250+. I love my 3M and
use it for flatwork sanding as well. I have re-worked the battery system so
I can plug in fresh NicCads whenever, the charge seems to be flagging. I
would without hesitation buy the Trend for all the reasons stated above.
Batteries are replaceable; lungs aren't!

Leif

I use a system by SATA, the guys who make the rally good paint guns.
It is a constant fresh air system that hooks up to your air compresor,
designed to be work in paint booths. It can be seen he

http://www.sata.com/Produkte/produkt...-21&menu=05,15

The difference with my unit, and the one in the link is that on mine,
the filter is on the wall, inline with my SATA particulate, water and
oil filters. The only thing attached to me is the air hose. As an
added benefit of this system, there is no battery to go dead, and the
head/neck hood keeps the shavings off of me.
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