UK diy (uk.d-i-y) For the discussion of all topics related to diy (do-it-yourself) in the UK. All levels of experience and proficency are welcome to join in to ask questions or offer solutions.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
hes4tres
 
Posts: n/a
Default boiler baxi going out

Baxi solo RS wall hung boiler installed 13/14 years ago. Not combi - i.e.
has hot tank and header tank.

The pilot light does not stay on when the knob is released, even after 2
minutes or more rather than the 10 secs they say, so cannot relight the
boiler which went out for reason not known. The instructions say to wait 3
mins before relighting the pilot but this does not appear necessary, so I
can light the pilot but only by holding the gas knob in.

Don't know if it has overheat cut-out. I can't find a reset knob though.

This happened 6 months ago and the plumber replaced the gas control (?) -
that's the bit with the knob you push in to light the pilot etc. He said it
might be another part which is more expensive to replace.

I thought boilers were reasonably robust but if this keeps going wrong it
may be better to simply replace it.

Questions:
1 Is the boiler at the end of it's natural life and should be replaced?
2 If so I would want to replace like with like as the simplest option - are
there new regulations altering the type you can replace it with?
3 If not, what parts are likely to be needed to get it working reliably? -
No sense in keep calling out the plumber who does seem good.
4 Is there anything else I need to consider? My wife would like to rip the
whole system out as she doesn't like central heating but it would knock
£30/40k off the value of the house so I'm against it.

Many thanks for your help & advice.

Hontres.


  #2   Report Post  
John
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"hes4tres" wrote in message
...
Baxi solo RS wall hung boiler installed 13/14 years ago. Not combi - i.e.
has hot tank and header tank.

The pilot light does not stay on when the knob is released, even after 2
minutes or more rather than the 10 secs they say, so cannot relight the
boiler which went out for reason not known. The instructions say to wait 3
mins before relighting the pilot but this does not appear necessary, so I
can light the pilot but only by holding the gas knob in.

Don't know if it has overheat cut-out. I can't find a reset knob though.


Your symptoms are classic failed thermocouple which IIRC is a specific type
for the Baxi. Replacement available for a few quid from Parts Centre (used
to be HRPC) in your locality. Changing the thermocouple is a trivial job.
Before going ahead you should look to see if there is an overheat stat often
involving a simple stat connected in series with the thermocouple. It
doesn't need to be a resettable type since once operated the thermocouple is
interuppted and you cannot re-establish the pilot until the unit has cooled
down and its contacts closed thus manual intevention is achieved.

This happened 6 months ago and the plumber replaced the gas control (?) -
that's the bit with the knob you push in to light the pilot etc. He said
it
might be another part which is more expensive to replace.


Oh dear you "may" have been ripped off by an unscrupulous person there.

I thought boilers were reasonably robust but if this keeps going wrong it
may be better to simply replace it.


Well they generally are very robust but simple things can and do go wrong.


Questions:
1 Is the boiler at the end of it's natural life and should be replaced?


Unlikely

2 If so I would want to replace like with like as the simplest option -
are
there new regulations altering the type you can replace it with?


Yes - unless you act before 1st April you will almost certainly have to
install a condensing boiler

3 If not, what parts are likely to be needed to get it working reliably? -


A thermocouple maybe other things.

No sense in keep calling out the plumber who does seem good.


He may be but a gas valve seems an unlikely failure so I'd be wary of making
such a generous judgement

4 Is there anything else I need to consider? My wife would like to rip the
whole system out as she doesn't like central heating but it would knock
£30/40k off the value of the house so I'm against it.


Send her to live with her mother


Many thanks for your help & advice.

Hontres.




  #3   Report Post  
hes4tres
 
Posts: n/a
Default


John wrote in message
...

"hes4tres" wrote in message
...


snipped

4 Is there anything else I need to consider? My wife would like to rip

the
whole system out as she doesn't like central heating but it would knock
£30/40k off the value of the house so I'm against it.


Send her to live with her mother

Now why didn't I think of that!

Thanks John.
Hontres.


  #4   Report Post  
Senior Member
 
Posts: 174
Default

The plumber who replaced the gas valve probably tested the theromcouple and found it to be working so he knew then it was the power unit. A lot of multifunction control valves (what we call a gas valve) don't have a renewable power unit so you have to buy the whole thing. Typically a mfcv costs 80 quid or more. He would probably charge £50 to £75 to fit it. Baxi offer a guaranteed fix 180 quid or so, check with them. If you turned out to need a mfcv that would have been a good deal.

This time it might well be the tc. Sometimes they don't last very long, manufacturer's correct part is usually cheap and may last longer than a universal tc.

Without looking the Solo up, most likely there is an interuptor o/h stat. This can fail, or short to boiler casing when the leeds are in poor state of repair, both cause tc failure when actually the tc is working fine.

It is almost certainly not the mfcv again in only 6 months.
  #5   Report Post  
hes4tres
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Thanks for that. I think the tc was tested but not replaced so may have
failed. Nothing lost by replacing it now and see if that works.
Hontres.
Paul Barker wrote in message
...

The plumber who replaced the gas valve probably tested the theromcouple
and found it to be working so he knew then it was the power unit. A lot
of multifunction control valves (what we call a gas valve) don't have a
renewable power unit so you have to buy the whole thing. Typically a
mfcv costs 80 quid or more. He would probably charge £50 to £75 to fit
it. Baxi offer a guaranteed fix 180 quid or so, check with them. If you
turned out to need a mfcv that would have been a good deal.

This time it might well be the tc. Sometimes they don't last very long,
manufacturer's correct part is usually cheap and may last longer than a
universal tc.

Without looking the Solo up, most likely there is an interuptor o/h
stat. This can fail, or short to boiler casing when the leeds are in
poor state of repair, both cause tc failure when actually the tc is
working fine.

It is almost certainly not the mfcv again in only 6 months.


--
Paul Barker



Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Baxi Boiler problem - grating sound Mike Dodd UK diy 6 January 30th 05 07:16 PM
Baxi Boiler shutting down steve UK diy 29 October 24th 04 12:29 AM
Baxi WM 381 RS Boiler Blowing Fuse L Reid UK diy 3 July 6th 04 04:09 PM
Old Baxi WM 531 RS boiler problem David Hearn UK diy 8 December 1st 03 06:58 PM
Baxi Bermuda boiler Steve UK diy 10 October 21st 03 08:03 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:45 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 DIYbanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about DIY & home improvement"