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are purlins shared by semis?
Are the purlins in a pair of semis all in one piece, i.e. continuous through
the party wall? I ask because I think my neighbour has a train set in his loft, and the slight noise / vibration can be heard in mine. It is not a problem, just curious! |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Zipadee Doodar wrote: Are the purlins in a pair of semis all in one piece, i.e. continuous through the party wall? I ask because I think my neighbour has a train set in his loft, and the slight noise / vibration can be heard in mine. It is not a problem, just curious! Doubt it. They'd have to come from a very tall tree! Mine are in 2 lengths - supported in the middle where they join - just in a single house. -- Cheers, Set Square ______ Please reply to newsgroup. Reply address is invalid. |
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Zipadee Doodar wrote: Are the purlins in a pair of semis all in one piece, i.e. continuous through the party wall? I'd hope not, as it would present a fire path. Also a large chunk of timber, so not economical. -- *i souport publik edekashun. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Zipadee Doodar wrote: Are the purlins in a pair of semis all in one piece, i.e. continuous through the party wall? I'd hope not, as it would present a fire path. I expect both purlins sit side by side on the common wall. |
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Mike wrote: I'd hope not, as it would present a fire path. I expect both purlins sit side by side on the common wall. I'll bet it varies area to area with old houses. Don't some terraces 'oop north' have common roof voids? Or was Coronation Street wrong? ;-) -- *'Progress' and 'Change' are not synonyms. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Mike wrote: I'd hope not, as it would present a fire path. I expect both purlins sit side by side on the common wall. I'll bet it varies area to area with old houses. Don't some terraces 'oop north' have common roof voids? Or was Coronation Street wrong? ;-) Indeed they do. Fire and security hazard or what. |
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"Mike" wrote in message ... "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Mike wrote: I'd hope not, as it would present a fire path. I expect both purlins sit side by side on the common wall. I'll bet it varies area to area with old houses. Don't some terraces 'oop north' have common roof voids? Or was Coronation Street wrong? ;-) The one up and down (with attic and cellar) we lived in was a C19th terrace house but the roof void was separated by walls. However, the accessible bit at the bottom of the pitch of the roof was continuous along the block of floor houses. Indeed they do. Fire and security hazard or what. Fire? We were so poor ... etc. Mary |
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Zipadee Doodar wrote: Are the purlins in a pair of semis all in one piece, i.e. continuous through the party wall? I ask because I think my neighbour has a train set in his loft, and the slight noise / vibration can be heard in mine. It is not a problem, just curious! That's exactly what I was intending to do, half one half of the board fixed to the purlin. Kevin |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Mike wrote: I'd hope not, as it would present a fire path. I expect both purlins sit side by side on the common wall. I'll bet it varies area to area with old houses. Don't some terraces 'oop north' have common roof voids? Or was Coronation Street wrong? ;-) Loads did, north and south. Why would the builders build a wall when they didnt need to? Now most have been walled, but still many arent. Hence the recent nwes story of a group of illegal immigrants caught moving in to the entire loft space of a whole terrace! NT |
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Are the purlins in a pair of semis all in one piece, i.e. continuous
through the party wall? I ask because I think my neighbour has a train set in his loft, and the slight noise / vibration can be heard in mine. It is not a problem, just curious! The purlins in our loft (1900's) overlap between adjoining lofts:- http://www.pciq.co.uk/pics/purlinwall.jpg As Set Square says, doubt it would be a single span across two properties though. Andy |
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In article ,
"Zipadee Doodar" writes: Are the purlins in a pair of semis all in one piece, i.e. continuous through the party wall? I ask because I think my neighbour has a train set in his loft, and the slight noise / vibration can be heard in mine. It is not a problem, just curious! They aren't in my 1895 house, but they are in contact where they pass through the party wall, as they both go right through. However, I doubt the perlins would transmit much noise -- there are smaller timbers doing the same thing which are fixed to the tops of the ceiling joists in mine, and I would be more likely to suspect them. -- Andrew Gabriel |
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:24:58 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
strung together this: I'll bet it varies area to area with old houses. Don't some terraces 'oop north' have common roof voids? Or was Coronation Street wrong? ;-) They certainly do, it's confused me once or twice when trying to get above a particular in a very large odd shaped loft. I usually twig that something's amiss when I come across a second loft hatch with the decor the other side of it bearing no resemblance to anything in the property I'm working in! -- SJW Please reply to group or use 'usenet' in email subject |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote: I'll bet it varies area to area with old houses. Don't some terraces 'oop north' have common roof voids? Or was Coronation Street wrong? ;-) And down south, the perverts love them, as do certain ethnic groups who take over all the roof spaces for sleeping their "guests".... |
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Badger wrote: I'll bet it varies area to area with old houses. Don't some terraces 'oop north' have common roof voids? Or was Coronation Street wrong? ;-) And down south, the perverts love them, as do certain ethnic groups who take over all the roof spaces for sleeping their "guests".... Thought London had some of the earliest fire regs for buildings - after the great fire? -- *If tennis elbow is painful, imagine suffering with tennis balls * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:24:58 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Mike wrote: I'd hope not, as it would present a fire path. I expect both purlins sit side by side on the common wall. I'll bet it varies area to area with old houses. Don't some terraces 'oop north' have common roof voids? Or was Coronation Street wrong? ;-) I'm one of the trustees of such a place in N17. The roof voids were common to several houses I have isolated ours by building a aircrete block wall - the purlin still goes right through though. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html |
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"Ed Sirett" wrote
| ... Don't some terraces 'oop | north' have common roof voids? | I'm one of the trustees of such a place in N17. N17 may be north, but it isn't 'oop north' :-) Owain |
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On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 14:37:01 +0000, Owain wrote:
"Ed Sirett" wrote | ... Don't some terraces 'oop | north' have common roof voids? | I'm one of the trustees of such a place in N17. N17 may be north, but it isn't 'oop north' :-) I suppose I was trying to say that common roof voids were not confined to 'oop north'. However the arrangement is uncommon round here and this was one of the first council houses ever built and one of the first houses built since 1666 without a fire break adjoining properties. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html |
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"Ed Sirett" wrote in message news On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 14:37:01 +0000, Owain wrote: "Ed Sirett" wrote | ... Don't some terraces 'oop | north' have common roof voids? | I'm one of the trustees of such a place in N17. N17 may be north, but it isn't 'oop north' :-) I suppose I was trying to say that common roof voids were not confined to 'oop north'. Of course not. There are common people in the south :-) Mary |
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"Owain" wrote in message ... "Ed Sirett" wrote | ... Don't some terraces 'oop | north' have common roof voids? | I'm one of the trustees of such a place in N17. N17 may be north, but it isn't 'oop north' :-) No. That starts just above Hatfield, doesn't it ? :-) |
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"Mike" wrote in message ... "Owain" wrote in message ... "Ed Sirett" wrote | ... Don't some terraces 'oop | north' have common roof voids? | I'm one of the trustees of such a place in N17. N17 may be north, but it isn't 'oop north' :-) No. That starts just above Hatfield, doesn't it ? :-) Always used to be Watford but people who think they're being clever now say Watford Gap. I think it starts at the river. The river Aire. Mary |
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"Ed Sirett" wrote
| However the arrangement is uncommon round here and (a) | this was one of the first council houses ever built and (b) | one of the first houses built since 1666 without a fire | break adjoining properties. Possibly (a) and (b) are not unrelated :-) Owain |
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from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: Always used to be Watford but people who think they're being clever now say Watford Gap. AFAIK it always has been the Northamptonshire Watford. The problem arisees from the educationally challenged southerners who only know about the London suburb. (And yes I do know it is in Hertfordshire). -- Roger |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... "Mike" wrote in message ... "Owain" wrote in message ... "Ed Sirett" wrote | ... Don't some terraces 'oop | north' have common roof voids? | I'm one of the trustees of such a place in N17. N17 may be north, but it isn't 'oop north' :-) No. That starts just above Hatfield, doesn't it ? :-) Always used to be Watford but people who think they're being clever now say Watford Gap. Sign (on A1?) says "Hatfield and the North". Sort of sums up Londoner's views of the rest of the country. |
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"Mike" wrote in message ... "Ed Sirett" wrote | ... Don't some terraces 'oop | north' have common roof voids? | I'm one of the trustees of such a place in N17. N17 may be north, but it isn't 'oop north' :-) No. That starts just above Hatfield, doesn't it ? :-) Always used to be Watford but people who think they're being clever now say Watford Gap. Sign (on A1?) says "Hatfield and the North". Sort of sums up Londoner's views of the rest of the country. No, it's the view of the Highways agency or whoever puts up the signs. "The South" is signposted on the A1 at Ferrybridge, about 7 - 8 miles south of where I live (not due south). Well, yes, thinking about it, I suppose that's about right. But what's the area between the "North" and "South" signs ... it can't all be the Midlands :-) Mary |
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On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:13:07 +0000, Owain wrote:
"Ed Sirett" wrote | However the arrangement is uncommon round here and (a) | this was one of the first council houses ever built and (b) | one of the first houses built since 1666 without a fire | break adjoining properties. Possibly (a) and (b) are not unrelated :-) To the best of my knowledge it was built in 1915 and one of the first houses to be built with the then new-fangled hollow cavity walls. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html |
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The message
from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: Sign (on A1?) says "Hatfield and the North". Sort of sums up Londoner's views of the rest of the country. No, it's the view of the Highways agency or whoever puts up the signs. "The South" is signposted on the A1 at Ferrybridge, about 7 - 8 miles south of where I live (not due south). Well, yes, thinking about it, I suppose that's about right. But what's the area between the "North" and "South" signs ... it can't all be the Midlands :-) I haven't been North of Scotch Corner for 40 years or more but it certainly used to be the case that however far North you got on the A1 The North was always further North. These days I tend not to remember what the signposts said for more than the odd half second so have no idea what the signs on the A1 say when going South even though I drive the section from the M62 to the A14 regularly. -- Roger |
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"Roger" wrote in message k... The message from "Mary Fisher" contains these words: Sign (on A1?) says "Hatfield and the North". Sort of sums up Londoner's views of the rest of the country. No, it's the view of the Highways agency or whoever puts up the signs. "The South" is signposted on the A1 at Ferrybridge, about 7 - 8 miles south of where I live (not due south). Well, yes, thinking about it, I suppose that's about right. But what's the area between the "North" and "South" signs ... it can't all be the Midlands :-) I haven't been North of Scotch Corner for 40 years or more but it certainly used to be the case that however far North you got on the A1 The North was always further North. Yes, but it starts in Herts! These days I tend not to remember what the signposts said for more than the odd half second We've got to that age too:-) so have no idea what the signs on the A1 say when going South even though I drive the section from the M62 to the A14 regularly. That's the section we use and there are always snide comments about the sign. I suspect it might be because there are two of us, if I were alone I couldn't be bothered! Mary -- Roger |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote:
"The South" is signposted on the A1 at Ferrybridge, about 7 - 8 miles south of where I live (not due south). pedant I think you'll find it's A1 South (and there is an A1 North pointing the other way) /pedant -- |
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