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"N. Thornton" wrote

| There is also the probability that a householder will raise a
| stink of the you worked on my wiring when you're not allowed
| to" and complain to Watchdog about unregistered electricians.
| This isnt making sense in my small brain. If I'm correct, you said
| 1. domestic electricians are not responsible for getting works
| cetrified under part P, the house holder is.
| 2. they dont need any qualifications to operate
| but now you say that for some reason theyre not allowed to work
| on house wiring. Where am I cornfused?

I mean the customers would raise a stink if they find out (especially
after
the event) that the 'professional' they employed to do the work was
not
legally able to do so without involving Building Control, they will
complain, and something like Watchdog will then jump on the bandwagon
of
rogue tradesmen misleading customers and doing work which is illegal.

I thought you said it was the customers responsiobility to go get
paperwork, not the tricians, in which case there would be nothing
illegal about an electrician doing a job and leaving it upto the
customer to do the paperwork. Am I wrong?


If contractors tell customers that as well as the invoice £ they are
going
to have to pay £ to Building Control, that places that contractor at
a
commercial disadvantage compared to a registered one.

To a fair extent one can get past that with legal phrasing on the
quote paperwork, something along the lines of in some cases you might
need to register it or have it inspected by the LA. But I agree there
will always be some that say, 'ang about mate.


NT

"N. Thornton" wrote
| I thought you said it was the customers responsiobility to go get
| paperwork, not the tricians, in which case there would be nothing
| illegal about an electrician doing a job and leaving it upto the
| customer to do the paperwork. Am I wrong?

Not wrong; obtaining building control approval comes down to the
householder. BUT if that is approval is not pre-arranged then the illegality
would be committed by the electrician at the time of doing the work. (This
also means that only registered contractors could offer an 'emergency'
service.) Illegal work can be regularised afterwards, of course, but that
might involve opening up finished works.

| To a fair extent one can get past that with legal phrasing on the
| quote paperwork, something along the lines of in some cases
| you might need to register it or have it inspected by the LA.

"Quote paperwork"...? For the jobbing electrician whose paperwork is a
duplicate book written on the job, making out a 'quote' for changing a
socket in a kitchen will add 5 minutes to the job. Eight jobs a day, that's
an extra 40 minutes' work for no remuneration.

Owain