Hello,

Not sure which wooden floor to go for. It is in a south facing conservatory,
so will get hot in the summer and cold in those winter nights. For this
reason, I have been told than engineered is better (more layers, more
flexible). Is engineered better given these temperature fluctuations?

At a close flooring shop I was told that you shouldn't use ANY underlay
apart from a plastic sheet thing for stopping damp (because this will void
the warranty). I spoke to a specialist who said that I SHOULD use an
underlay with either type of floor. Who is correct?

Should both types be "floating"? We have a screed on concrete floor at the
moment.

Should the wooden pieces be "glued" together?

Also, I can still see damp areas in the screed. It has been down for about a
month (perhaps a month and a half).

Is there much of a difference in terms of difficulty to lay?

Thanks for any advice and tips.







--
Saddam has continued to produce them, that he has existing and active
military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, which could
be activated within 45 minutes
- Tony Blair on Saddam 24/9/02

"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the
great and enduring alliances of modern times."
George W Bush -Tokyo, Japan, Feb. 18, 2002

suicide bombing is not a belief
-CrazyAlec (internet spook)

"I hear there's rumors on the Internets"
- George W Bush -Oct. 9, 2004

Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to
kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to
have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the feet of the
Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it
means blowing up one or two synagogues here and there, I don't care.
-- Ariel Sharon, interviewed by Amos Oz (published in the Israeli daily
Davar, DEC 17, 1982

CQMMAN wrote:

Not sure which wooden floor to go for. It is in a south facing conservatory,
so will get hot in the summer and cold in those winter nights. For this
reason, I have been told than engineered is better (more layers, more
flexible). Is engineered better given these temperature fluctuations?

Yes. All wood floors will more but the engineered type will be more
stable with variations of tempreture and humidity


At a close flooring shop I was told that you shouldn't use ANY underlay
apart from a plastic sheet thing for stopping damp (because this will void
the warranty). I spoke to a specialist who said that I SHOULD use an
underlay with either type of floor. Who is correct?

Use an underlay. It will provide sound insulation. But it needs to be
the right type for the subfloor. On concrete you will certainly need a
type that provides a dampproof layer (I used Impactafoam from
http://www.soundreduction.co.uk )


Should both types be "floating"? We have a screed on concrete floor at the
moment.

Engineered has to be floating.

Should the wooden pieces be "glued" together?

For an engineered floor it depends on the type. click fit systems do not
need glue.


Also, I can still see damp areas in the screed. It has been down for about a
month (perhaps a month and a half).

You need to give it time to dry completely


Is there much of a difference in terms of difficulty to lay?

I have just installed a Kahrs 'Woodlock' engineered floor.
(http://www.kahrs.com )
This has a click fit system so dosn't need glueing and fits perfectly.
Cliping the boards together requires a little practice to get the to
'just click'
but by the third row it had clicked. I would imagine a solid floor would
be more
work to assemble and with glue no chance to undo a mistake.

quisquiliae wrote:


Thanks very much for the information.

Cheers
--
Saddam has continued to produce them, that he has existing and active
military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, which
could be activated within 45 minutes
- Tony Blair on Saddam 24/9/02

"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the
great and enduring alliances of modern times."
George W Bush -Tokyo, Japan, Feb. 18, 2002

suicide bombing is not a belief
-CrazyAlec (internet spook)

"I hear there's rumors on the Internets"
- George W Bush -Oct. 9, 2004

Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to
kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn
them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the
feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us
crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two synagogues here and
there, I don't care. -- Ariel Sharon, interviewed by Amos Oz (published
in the Israeli daily Davar, DEC 17, 1982

"CQMMAN" wrote in message
...
Hello,

Not sure which wooden floor to go for. It is in a south facing
conservatory,
so will get hot in the summer and cold in those winter nights. For this
reason, I have been told than engineered is better (more layers, more
flexible). Is engineered better given these temperature fluctuations?

At a close flooring shop I was told that you shouldn't use ANY underlay
apart from a plastic sheet thing for stopping damp (because this will void
the warranty). I spoke to a specialist who said that I SHOULD use an
underlay with either type of floor. Who is correct?

I wrote an article on 'which flooring type' ... it's on ukselfbuild if you
want to read it ..
http://tinyurl.com/6dv2t

In simple terms if the floor is subject to movement due to heat then
Engineered is better, it will take as many re-sandings as solid wood.
Use an underlay that incorporates a vapour barrier (I used Quickstep
Combifloor)

I have underfloor heating in my place to keep response time good - I went
for 18mm thick floor, if you don't have UFH, then use thicket with no
problem.

I have found BOEN to be very good ... and Flooring supplies to be the best
on prices (mail order)
http://www.flooringsupplies.co.uk/

Rick

Rick Hughes wrote:


I wrote an article on 'which flooring type' ... it's on ukselfbuild
if you want to read it ..
http://tinyurl.com/6dv2t

In simple terms if the floor is subject to movement due to heat then
Engineered is better, it will take as many re-sandings as solid wood.
Use an underlay that incorporates a vapour barrier (I used Quickstep
Combifloor)

I have underfloor heating in my place to keep response time good - I
went for 18mm thick floor, if you don't have UFH, then use thicket
with no problem.

I have found BOEN to be very good ... and Flooring supplies to be
the best on prices (mail order)
http://www.flooringsupplies.co.uk/

Rick


Thanks. The tinyurl doesn't work, but the advice is good. Just to clarify, I
*can* use underfloor heating with engineered wood?


Cheers



--
Saddam has continued to produce them, that he has existing and active
military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, which
could be activated within 45 minutes
- Tony Blair on Saddam 24/9/02

"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the
great and enduring alliances of modern times."
George W Bush -Tokyo, Japan, Feb. 18, 2002

suicide bombing is not a belief
-CrazyAlec (internet spook)

"I hear there's rumors on the Internets"
- George W Bush -Oct. 9, 2004

Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to
kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn
them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the
feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us
crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two synagogues here and
there, I don't care. -- Ariel Sharon, interviewed by Amos Oz (published
in the Israeli daily Davar, DEC 17, 1982

CQMMAN wrote:

The tinyurl doesn't work

Wow! I thought lotus notes made long urls, but that 80 character case
sensitive alphanumeric string gives 62^80 combinations. How many
gazillion URLs per sub-atomic particle in the known universe do Yahoo!
think they need :-)

"CQMMAN" wrote in message
...
Rick Hughes wrote:


I wrote an article on 'which flooring type' ... it's on ukselfbuild
if you want to read it ..
http://tinyurl.com/6dv2t

In simple terms if the floor is subject to movement due to heat then
Engineered is better, it will take as many re-sandings as solid wood.
Use an underlay that incorporates a vapour barrier (I used Quickstep
Combifloor)

I have underfloor heating in my place to keep response time good - I
went for 18mm thick floor, if you don't have UFH, then use thicket
with no problem.

I have found BOEN to be very good ... and Flooring supplies to be
the best on prices (mail order)
http://www.flooringsupplies.co.uk/

Rick


Thanks. The tinyurl doesn't work, but the advice is good. Just to clarify,
I
*can* use underfloor heating with engineered wood?



Strange I tested the url before posting, I have recreated it ...
http://tinyurl.com/53ebg
and tested and it does get the file OK ... (it may ask you to register, but
that's Yahoo)
Or go to http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/UK_Selfbuild/
and click on link on the left to the files area.

Engineered floor is the way to go for UFH .... Some tips :

#1 use the correct underlay ... (Combifloor is good choice) you need a
vapour barrier but a minimum TOG rating.

#2 Lay floating ... it needs to be able to move

#3 Make sure you allow correct perimeter gap

#4 I would REALLY recommend that you use t&g engineered floor and glue all
joints with a D4 adhesive .... it's and easy enough task, I have done more
than 175 sq.m. this way in last couple of months.
I don't think the click fit joints are up to much on engineered floors -
they are better suited to laminate.

#5 Choose an 18mm thick board with ideally 7mm veneer

#6 Scribe in the first run of boards down longest wall - very important to
get this right.


Rick

What kind of dumbass are you?

Rick Hughes wrote:


There were many more posts full of profanities, your mother must be so
proud.


Don't worry about him I am sure the doctors will be around to collect him
soon




--
Saddam has continued to produce them, that he has existing and active
military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, which
could be activated within 45 minutes
- Tony Blair on Saddam 24/9/02

"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the
great and enduring alliances of modern times."
George W Bush -Tokyo, Japan, Feb. 18, 2002

suicide bombing is not a belief
-CrazyAlec (internet spook)

"I hear there's rumors on the Internets"
- George W Bush -Oct. 9, 2004

Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to
kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn
them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the
feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us
crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two synagogues here and
there, I don't care. -- Ariel Sharon, interviewed by Amos Oz (published
in the Israeli daily Davar, DEC 17, 1982

His is a dumbass because he call me internet spook. I don't like it