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Central Heating Install
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I was wondering if anyone knows any good sites for installing a Central heating system. I am half way through it and just want to check it is ok. anything would be a great help. Ken |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Ken Speirs wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows any good sites for installing a Central heating system. How about in your house? [It would be wasted in the garden] g -- Cheers, Set Square ______ Please reply to newsgroup. Reply address is invalid. |
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"Ken Speirs" wrote in message ... Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows any good sites for installing a Central heating system. I am half way through it and just want to check it is ok. anything would be a great help. What reservations do you have? Tell us and we will help. |
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IMM wrote: I was wondering if anyone knows any good sites for installing a Central heating system. I am half way through it and just want to check it is ok. anything would be a great help. What reservations do you have? Tell us and we will help. He's going to just *love* being told he should have used two combis... -- *Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In message , Ken Speirs
writes Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows any good sites for installing a Central heating system. Not really no. I am half way through it and just want to check it is ok. What are you concerned about -- Chris French, Leeds |
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 18:50:15 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , IMM wrote: I was wondering if anyone knows any good sites for installing a Central heating system. I am half way through it and just want to check it is ok. anything would be a great help. What reservations do you have? Tell us and we will help. He's going to just *love* being told he should have used two combis... Well it is the solution to *any* heating requirement, you know. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message news On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 18:50:15 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , IMM wrote: I was wondering if anyone knows any good sites for installing a Central heating system. I am half way through it and just want to check it is ok. anything would be a great help. What reservations do you have? Tell us and we will help. He's going to just *love* being told he should have used two combis... Well it is the solution to *any* heating requirement, you know. Learning at last. |
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:46:30 +0100, "IMM" wrote:
"Andy Hall" wrote in message news On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 18:50:15 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , IMM wrote: I was wondering if anyone knows any good sites for installing a Central heating system. I am half way through it and just want to check it is ok. anything would be a great help. What reservations do you have? Tell us and we will help. He's going to just *love* being told he should have used two combis... Well it is the solution to *any* heating requirement, you know. Learning at last. What's going to be product of the month for November? Are you going to tell us now or do we have to wait? ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"IMM" wrote
| "Andy Hall" wrote | He's going to just *love* being told he should have | used two combis... | Well it is the solution to *any* heating requirement, | you know. | Learning at last. I am very disappointed; I was confidently expecting as we moved into November that Combined Heat and Power was going to be the flavour of next month. Perhaps two combi CHP boilers is the answer, one upstairs one downstairs, then when you are running a bath upstairs the bedroom lights come on automatically. Owain |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message news On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 18:50:15 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , IMM wrote: I was wondering if anyone knows any good sites for installing a Central heating system. I am half way through it and just want to check it is ok. anything would be a great help. What reservations do you have? Tell us and we will help. He's going to just *love* being told he should have used two combis... Well it is the solution to *any* heating requirement, you know. I'd just love to see two combis heat a 200 bedroom hotel! |
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:37:35 +0000 (UTC), "John"
wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message news On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 18:50:15 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , IMM wrote: I was wondering if anyone knows any good sites for installing a Central heating system. I am half way through it and just want to check it is ok. anything would be a great help. What reservations do you have? Tell us and we will help. He's going to just *love* being told he should have used two combis... Well it is the solution to *any* heating requirement, you know. I'd just love to see two combis heat a 200 bedroom hotel! It depends how big they are. Of course if the entire place is filled with insulation and sealed then no problem anyway. A win-win situation. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Andy Hall wrote: I'd just love to see two combis heat a 200 bedroom hotel! It depends how big they are. Of course if the entire place is filled with insulation and sealed then no problem anyway. A win-win situation. You could also do it with 10 people per bedroom. All tango dancing. -- *Acupuncture is a jab well done.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Andy Hall wrote: I'd just love to see two combis heat a 200 bedroom hotel! The Japanese are really into instant water heating.The largest instant water heaters are commercial jobs with two of them probably doing a 200 room hotel. It depends how big they are. Of course if the entire place is filled with insulation and sealed then no problem anyway. A win-win situation. Positive thinking. Very encouraging. You could also do it with 10 people per bedroom. All tango dancing. Positive thinking again.......at last. |
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"Owain" wrote in message ... "IMM" wrote | "Andy Hall" wrote | He's going to just *love* being told he should have | used two combis... | Well it is the solution to *any* heating requirement, | you know. | Learning at last. I am very disappointed; I was confidently expecting as we moved into November that Combined Heat and Power was going to be the flavour of next month. Perhaps two combi CHP boilers is the answer, one upstairs one downstairs, then when you are running a bath upstairs the bedroom lights come on automatically. This has been suggested for backup. One natural gas and one LPG. Keep reading and learning. It is good for you. |
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 01:59:02 +0100, "IMM" wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Andy Hall wrote: I'd just love to see two combis heat a 200 bedroom hotel! The Japanese are really into instant water heating.The largest instant water heaters are commercial jobs with two of them probably doing a 200 room hotel. It depends how big they are. Of course if the entire place is filled with insulation and sealed then no problem anyway. A win-win situation. Positive thinking. Very encouraging. You could also do it with 10 people per bedroom. All tango dancing. Positive thinking again.......at last. I suppose that you would think the district heating systems of the former eastern bloc would be good as well. Some clueless designs with pipes of nearly 2m diameter with about 50mm of insulation. I saw some being replaced recently. Visions of district heating stations with banks of wall mounted combis....... ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:05:43 GMT, "Ken Speirs" wrote:
I am half way through it and just want to check it is ok. I think you have left it too late ... Geo |
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In article ,
IMM wrote: I'd just love to see two combis heat a 200 bedroom hotel! The Japanese are really into instant water heating.The largest instant water heaters are commercial jobs with two of them probably doing a 200 room hotel. Two 'instant' water heaters feeding 200 rooms. Turn on the tap in the furthest one, go to breakfast and come back to warm water. Perhaps among the other things you desperately need to learn about is the meaning of 'instant'. -- *Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 01:59:02 +0100, "IMM" wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Andy Hall wrote: I'd just love to see two combis heat a 200 bedroom hotel! The Japanese are really into instant water heating.The largest instant water heaters are commercial jobs with two of them probably doing a 200 room hotel. It depends how big they are. Of course if the entire place is filled with insulation and sealed then no problem anyway. A win-win situation. Positive thinking. Very encouraging. You could also do it with 10 people per bedroom. All tango dancing. Positive thinking again.......at last. I suppose that you would think the district heating systems of the former eastern bloc would be good as well. No. Some clueless designs with pipes of nearly 2m diameter with about 50mm of insulation. I saw some being replaced recently. With thicker insulation I assume. Visions of district heating stations with banks of wall mounted combis....... I did visit a block of flats once in the 1970s that had a bank of Ascot multi-points, A sequence controller brought each unit in depending on demand. Very effective. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , IMM wrote: I'd just love to see two combis heat a 200 bedroom hotel! The Japanese are really into instant water heating.The largest instant water heaters are commercial jobs with two of them probably doing a 200 room hotel. Two 'instant' water heaters feeding 200 rooms. Turn on the tap in the furthest one, go to breakfast and come back to warm water. No. They have re-circ of DHW draw-offs. Perhaps among the other things you desperately need to learn about is the meaning of 'instant'. Perhaps among the other things you desperately need to learn about is not to comment on fields you know sweet FA about. Here is this Plowman giving you advise on CH..read on... This what he wears, yes he does...he said... "Well, I got a rather flash pair of DeWalt boots from TLC, so there.;-)" Sad isn't it. Big yellow boots. Yes. big yellow boots. He also attempts to give advise and criticise views on heating, yet he said about his gas boier....... "Mine managed over 10 years without being touched before it needed a clean. 'Sooting up' once it starts, happens very quickly." He didn't have his gas boiler serviced for over 10 years, and knows all the answers in this field - he thinks. Only on the Internet you see this. These people are dangerous man, very dangerous. |
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In article ,
IMM wrote: Two 'instant' water heaters feeding 200 rooms. Turn on the tap in the furthest one, go to breakfast and come back to warm water. No. They have re-circ of DHW draw-offs. Then they're not an 'instant' heater. Which as you may not have noticed starts and stops on water usage. If you're circulating hot water all the time so it is instantly available, this is a form of storage system. Perhaps among the other things you desperately need to learn about is the meaning of 'instant'. Perhaps among the other things you desperately need to learn about is not to comment on fields you know sweet FA about. But I've just explained it for you? Was it too difficult for you to understand? Or perhaps like Humpty Dumpty you expect words to mean what you want them to? Here is this Plowman giving you advise on CH..read on... This what he wears, yes he does...he said... "Well, I got a rather flash pair of DeWalt boots from TLC, so there.;-)" Sad isn't it. Big yellow boots. Yes. big yellow boots. Dear me, your needle has stuck - again. Can't you try and think up a few new insults? FWIW, for one who so avidly reads and quotes catalogues, haven't you ever noticed the colour of DeWalt protective foot wear? Or perhaps this indicates your lack of interest in such things - sitting in your office all day dreaming? He also attempts to give advise and criticise views on heating, yet he said about his gas boier....... "Mine managed over 10 years without being touched before it needed a clean. 'Sooting up' once it starts, happens very quickly." He didn't have his gas boiler serviced for over 10 years, and knows all the answers in this field - he thinks. I'd heard how people like you use a hacksaw for everything so decided to save about 1000 quid in 'routine servicing'. Of course I'd never stint on safety checks. But they don't make the same profit as ripping things apart for no reason, do they? -- *I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , IMM wrote: Two 'instant' water heaters feeding 200 rooms. Turn on the tap in the furthest one, go to breakfast and come back to warm water. No. They have re-circ of DHW draw-offs. Then they're not an 'instant' heater. Which as you may not have noticed starts and stops on water usage. I have told you before, don't comment on a field you know sweet FA about. snip drivel |
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:51:12 +0100, "IMM" wrote:
"Andy Hall" wrote in message .. . I suppose that you would think the district heating systems of the former eastern bloc would be good as well. No. Some clueless designs with pipes of nearly 2m diameter with about 50mm of insulation. I saw some being replaced recently. With thicker insulation I assume. Nope...... more of the same. There must be a huge waste. Most of Honecker's one in East Berlin ran over the streets above ground with little or no insulation at all. I'm told that the water was cold when it got to its intended destination. Visions of district heating stations with banks of wall mounted combis....... I did visit a block of flats once in the 1970s that had a bank of Ascot multi-points, A sequence controller brought each unit in depending on demand. Very effective. Sequencing on sets of boilers is common commercial design from what I've read, but multipoints? ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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In article ,
IMM wrote: Two 'instant' water heaters feeding 200 rooms. Turn on the tap in the furthest one, go to breakfast and come back to warm water. No. They have re-circ of DHW draw-offs. Then they're not an 'instant' heater. Which as you may not have noticed starts and stops on water usage. I have told you before, don't comment on a field you know sweet FA about. Why? You've been doing it for years... Noted you've not tried to justify your mistake, though. -- *A closed mouth gathers no feet.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In message , IMM writes
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , IMM wrote: Two 'instant' water heaters feeding 200 rooms. Turn on the tap in the furthest one, go to breakfast and come back to warm water. No. They have re-circ of DHW draw-offs. Then they're not an 'instant' heater. Which as you may not have noticed starts and stops on water usage. I have told you before, don't comment on a field you know sweet FA about. It's never stopped you ... "Play it again Adam" -- geoff |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , IMM wrote: Two 'instant' water heaters feeding 200 rooms. Turn on the tap in the furthest one, go to breakfast and come back to warm water. No. They have re-circ of DHW draw-offs. Then they're not an 'instant' heater. Which as you may not have noticed starts and stops on water usage. I have told you before, don't comment on a field you know sweet FA about. It's never stopped you ... Stopped me from doing what? "Play it again Adam" You have been at the sherry again. It is "Play it Sam". |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , IMM wrote: Two 'instant' water heaters feeding 200 rooms. Turn on the tap in the furthest one, go to breakfast and come back to warm water. No. They have re-circ of DHW draw-offs. Then they're not an 'instant' heater. Which as you may not have noticed starts and stops on water usage. I have told you before, don't comment on a field you know sweet FA about. I repeat: "I have told you before, don't comment on a field you know sweet FA about" |
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IMM wrote: I have told you before, don't comment on a field you know sweet FA about. I repeat: "I have told you before, don't comment on a field you know sweet FA about" Yes. One thing is certain, you will repeat the same rubbish time and time again. Since you don't want those not 'qualified' to comment on things, perhaps you'd give your *verifiable* qualifications? No? No surprise there then. Pratt. -- *All men are idiots, and I married their King. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , IMM wrote: I have told you before, don't comment on a field you know sweet FA about. I repeat: "I have told you before, don't comment on a field you know sweet FA about" snip drivel I repeat: "I have told you before, don't comment on a field you know sweet FA about" |
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In message , IMM writes
I have told you before, don't comment on a field you know sweet FA about. It's never stopped you ... Stopped me from doing what? "Play it again Adam" You have been at the sherry again. It is "Play it Sam". Not according to you in a different post how's your hacksaw ? -- geoff |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes I have told you before, don't comment on a field you know sweet FA about. It's never stopped you ... Stopped me from doing what? "Play it again Adam" You have been at the sherry again. It is "Play it Sam". Not according to you in a different post how's your hacksaw ? Perfect. Always does a perfect pro job. |
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In message , IMM writes
"raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes I have told you before, don't comment on a field you know sweet FA about. It's never stopped you ... Stopped me from doing what? "Play it again Adam" You have been at the sherry again. It is "Play it Sam". Not according to you in a different post how's your hacksaw ? Perfect. Always does a perfect pro job. I heard you have just converted to Judaism -- geoff |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes "raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes I have told you before, don't comment on a field you know sweet FA about. It's never stopped you ... Stopped me from doing what? "Play it again Adam" You have been at the sherry again. It is "Play it Sam". Not according to you in a different post how's your hacksaw ? Perfect. Always does a perfect pro job. I heard you have just converted to Judaism What are you on about already? |
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In article ,
raden writes: In message , IMM writes "raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes I have told you before, don't comment on a field you know sweet FA about. It's never stopped you ... Stopped me from doing what? "Play it again Adam" You have been at the sherry again. It is "Play it Sam". Not according to you in a different post how's your hacksaw ? Perfect. Always does a perfect pro job. I heard you have just converted to Judaism If you really must DIY, a pipe cutter probably does a better job than a hacksaw... -- Andrew Gabriel |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Andrew Gabriel wrote: how's your hacksaw ? Perfect. Always does a perfect pro job. I heard you have just converted to Judaism If you really must DIY, a pipe cutter probably does a better job than a hacksaw... How about a cutting disc on a Dremel? -- Cheers, Set Square ______ Please reply to newsgroup. Reply address is invalid. |
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:51:33 +0100, "Set Square"
wrote: In an earlier contribution to this discussion, Andrew Gabriel wrote: how's your hacksaw ? Perfect. Always does a perfect pro job. I heard you have just converted to Judaism If you really must DIY, a pipe cutter probably does a better job than a hacksaw... How about a cutting disc on a Dremel? Followed by the wire brush..... ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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