I've never owned or..I think..eaten chips made in one
of these new fangled Chip Fryers'.
Leaving aside aspects of health and life expectancy.

Your advice is requested on these.
How does the Chip Fryer fried chip compare to;

a) The chippy chip? Must be better..surely!

b) The chips our mams made in a frying pan in days of yore?

Arthur.

In article ,
Arthur wrote:
Your advice is requested on these.
How does the Chip Fryer fried chip compare to;

a) The chippy chip? Must be better..surely!

b) The chips our mams made in a frying pan in days of yore?

Main benefit is safety - they can't boil over on their own as a pan can
due to having a thermostat. And if you cause them to overflow though
whatever reason, there's no flame or whatever below to ignite that oil.

Otherwise, the results they give are the same if you use the same fat or
oil in a pan.

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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:43:49 UTC, "Arthur"
wrote:

I've never owned or..I think..eaten chips made in one
of these new fangled Chip Fryers'.
Leaving aside aspects of health and life expectancy.

Your advice is requested on these.
How does the Chip Fryer fried chip compare to;

a) The chippy chip? Must be better..surely!

I find they're very nice - and of course freshly made with just the
right crisp outer and soft inner!

The fryers are thermostatically controlled and therefore safer than the
old fryers.

We have a Kenwood, which comes apart for cleaning. Nearly all the parts
(body, lid, filter, basket and pan) can be put in the dishwasher,
leaving just the power pod (dial and cable, basically) to wipe down.
--
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begin a new life...dump Windows!

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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:43:49 UTC, "Arthur"
wrote:

We have a Kenwood, which comes apart for cleaning. Nearly all the parts
(body, lid, filter, basket and pan) can be put in the dishwasher,
leaving just the power pod (dial and cable, basically) to wipe down.
--
Bob Eager

How do you dispose of the oil?

--
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Milton Keynes, UK
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:13:55 UTC, "Malcolm Stewart"
wrote:

"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:43:49 UTC, "Arthur"
wrote:

We have a Kenwood, which comes apart for cleaning. Nearly all the parts
(body, lid, filter, basket and pan) can be put in the dishwasher,
leaving just the power pod (dial and cable, basically) to wipe down.
--
Bob Eager

How do you dispose of the oil?

Dunno...my wife does that. I think she pours it into an old Coke
bottle...

--
Bob Eager
begin a new life...dump Windows!

Malcolm Stewart wrote:
"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:43:49 UTC, "Arthur"
wrote:

We have a Kenwood, which comes apart for cleaning. Nearly all the
parts (body, lid, filter, basket and pan) can be put in the
dishwasher, leaving just the power pod (dial and cable, basically)
to wipe down. --
Bob Eager

How do you dispose of the oil?

You can always do an engine conversion on your car. IIRC there is some guy
in the USA who did this and now gets all his fuel free from his local
diners.

Don


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In article , Don Spumey says...
Malcolm Stewart wrote:
"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:43:49 UTC, "Arthur"
wrote:

We have a Kenwood, which comes apart for cleaning. Nearly all the
parts (body, lid, filter, basket and pan) can be put in the
dishwasher, leaving just the power pod (dial and cable, basically)
to wipe down. --
Bob Eager

How do you dispose of the oil?

You can always do an engine conversion on your car. IIRC there is some guy
in the USA who did this and now gets all his fuel free from his local
diners.

There's no conversion to do. Strain the chip fat through a pair of
ladies' tights (come on fellas - we've all got a pair) and add a bit of
diesel to thin it out a bit. It's still subject to tax, though, I think
at the same rate as petrol or diesel.

--
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Hywel wrote:
In article , Don Spumey says...
Malcolm Stewart wrote:
"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:43:49 UTC, "Arthur"
wrote:

We have a Kenwood, which comes apart for cleaning. Nearly all the
parts (body, lid, filter, basket and pan) can be put in the
dishwasher, leaving just the power pod (dial and cable, basically)
to wipe down. --
Bob Eager

How do you dispose of the oil?

You can always do an engine conversion on your car. IIRC there is
some guy in the USA who did this and now gets all his fuel free from
his local diners.

There's no conversion to do. Strain the chip fat through a pair of
ladies' tights (come on fellas - we've all got a pair) and add a bit
of diesel to thin it out a bit. It's still subject to tax, though, I
think at the same rate as petrol or diesel.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/england/1750734.stm

http://www.dawn.com/2002/10/22/int17.htm

Don.


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In article , "Hywel"
says...
In article , Don Spumey says...
Malcolm Stewart wrote:
"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:43:49 UTC, "Arthur"
wrote:

We have a Kenwood, which comes apart for cleaning. Nearly all the
parts (body, lid, filter, basket and pan) can be put in the
dishwasher, leaving just the power pod (dial and cable, basically)
to wipe down. --
Bob Eager

How do you dispose of the oil?

You can always do an engine conversion on your car. IIRC there is some guy
in the USA who did this and now gets all his fuel free from his local
diners.

There's no conversion to do. Strain the chip fat through a pair of
ladies' tights (come on fellas - we've all got a pair) and add a bit of
diesel to thin it out a bit. It's still subject to tax, though, I think
at the same rate as petrol or diesel.


Making bio-diesel is a bit more complicated than filtering chip fat:

http://website.lineone.net/~supersno...onsoilFuel.htm

In message , Hywel
writes
In article , Don Spumey says...
Malcolm Stewart wrote:
"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:43:49 UTC, "Arthur"
wrote:

We have a Kenwood, which comes apart for cleaning. Nearly all the
parts (body, lid, filter, basket and pan) can be put in the
dishwasher, leaving just the power pod (dial and cable, basically)
to wipe down. --
Bob Eager

How do you dispose of the oil?

You can always do an engine conversion on your car. IIRC there is some guy
in the USA who did this and now gets all his fuel free from his local
diners.

There's no conversion to do. Strain the chip fat through a pair of
ladies' tights (come on fellas - we've all got a pair)

Speak for yourself

and add a bit of
diesel to thin it out a bit. It's still subject to tax, though, I think
at the same rate as petrol or diesel.


--
geoff

In message , Malcolm Stewart
writes
"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:43:49 UTC, "Arthur"
wrote:

We have a Kenwood, which comes apart for cleaning. Nearly all the parts
(body, lid, filter, basket and pan) can be put in the dishwasher,
leaving just the power pod (dial and cable, basically) to wipe down.
--
Bob Eager

How do you dispose of the oil?

Google "bio diesel"
--
geoff

In article , Arthur says...
How does the Chip Fryer fried chip compare to;

a) The chippy chip? Must be better..surely!

Probably.


b) The chips our mams made in a frying pan in days of yore?

Impossible.

--
Hywel

http://sponsorhywel.org.uk/

"Arthur" wrote in message ...
I've never owned or..I think..eaten chips made in one
of these new fangled Chip Fryers'.
Leaving aside aspects of health and life expectancy.

Your advice is requested on these.
How does the Chip Fryer fried chip compare to;

a) The chippy chip? Must be better..surely!

b) The chips our mams made in a frying pan in days of yore?

Arthur.


On the other side of the coin, repeatedly used veg oil is the source
of damagingly high levels of oxidants. Oxidants cause some of our very
worst health problems.

Yes, crunchy chips is nice, but I'll stick to cooking them in a small
amount of fresh oil myself.

NT

On the other side of the coin, repeatedly used veg oil is the source
of damagingly high levels of oxidants. Oxidants cause some of our very
worst health problems.

Yes, crunchy chips is nice, but I'll stick to cooking them in a small
amount of fresh oil myself.

So do I, but I still get crunchy chips - what's the correlation?

Mary

NT

(N. Thornton) wrote in message . com...
"Arthur" wrote in message ...
I've never owned or..I think..eaten chips made in one
of these new fangled Chip Fryers'.
Leaving aside aspects of health and life expectancy.

Your advice is requested on these.
How does the Chip Fryer fried chip compare to;

a) The chippy chip? Must be better..surely!

b) The chips our mams made in a frying pan in days of yore?

Arthur.


On the other side of the coin, repeatedly used veg oil is the source
of damagingly high levels of oxidants. Oxidants cause some of our very
worst health problems.


Can you quote peer reviewed scientific evidence for that?

MBQ

In message , Arthur
writes
I've never owned or..I think..eaten chips made in one
of these new fangled Chip Fryers'.
Leaving aside aspects of health and life expectancy.

Your advice is requested on these.
How does the Chip Fryer fried chip compare to;

a) The chippy chip? Must be better..surely!

b) The chips our mams made in a frying pan in days of yore?

Doesn't it all boil down to what the chips are fried in ?

Some oils have a lower boiling temperature and so don't crisp off the
chips

A chip fryer is just a means of heating the fat / oil

Get thee some good old chip fat if tha' wants good chips

.... of course it's not that simple, it also depends on the type of
potatoes used

--
geoff

"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , Arthur
writes
I've never owned or..I think..eaten chips made in one
of these new fangled Chip Fryers'.
Leaving aside aspects of health and life expectancy.

Your advice is requested on these.
How does the Chip Fryer fried chip compare to;

a) The chippy chip? Must be better..surely!

b) The chips our mams made in a frying pan in days of yore?

Doesn't it all boil down to what the chips are fried in ?

Some oils have a lower boiling temperature and so don't crisp off the
chips

A chip fryer is just a means of heating the fat / oil

Get thee some good old chip fat if tha' wants good chips

Beef dripping.

... of course it's not that simple, it also depends on the type of
potatoes used

I don't know of any which won't chip but some are better than others. I've
found that Nicola, which are normally sold for salad, are excellent for
chips but they do need different conditions than, say, Duke of York.

Mary

--
geoff

In message , Mary
Fisher writes

"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , Arthur
writes
I've never owned or..I think..eaten chips made in one
of these new fangled Chip Fryers'.
Leaving aside aspects of health and life expectancy.

Your advice is requested on these.
How does the Chip Fryer fried chip compare to;

a) The chippy chip? Must be better..surely!

b) The chips our mams made in a frying pan in days of yore?

Doesn't it all boil down to what the chips are fried in ?

Some oils have a lower boiling temperature and so don't crisp off the
chips

A chip fryer is just a means of heating the fat / oil

Get thee some good old chip fat if tha' wants good chips

Beef dripping.

... of course it's not that simple, it also depends on the type of
potatoes used

I don't know of any which won't chip but some are better than others. I've
found that Nicola, which are normally sold for salad, are excellent for
chips but they do need different conditions than, say, Duke of York.

Well they will all make chips, but some are better than others

horses for courses, as they say

--
geoff

"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , Mary Fisher
writes

"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , Arthur
writes
I've never owned or..I think..eaten chips made in one
of these new fangled Chip Fryers'.
Leaving aside aspects of health and life expectancy.

Your advice is requested on these.
How does the Chip Fryer fried chip compare to;

a) The chippy chip? Must be better..surely!

b) The chips our mams made in a frying pan in days of yore?

Doesn't it all boil down to what the chips are fried in ?

Some oils have a lower boiling temperature and so don't crisp off the
chips

A chip fryer is just a means of heating the fat / oil

Get thee some good old chip fat if tha' wants good chips

Beef dripping.

... of course it's not that simple, it also depends on the type of
potatoes used

I don't know of any which won't chip but some are better than others. I've
found that Nicola, which are normally sold for salad, are excellent for
chips but they do need different conditions than, say, Duke of York.

Well they will all make chips, but some are better than others

horses for courses, as they say

Where have I heard that before?

Mary

--
geoff

"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , Arthur
writes
I've never owned or..I think..eaten chips made in one
of these new fangled Chip Fryers'.
Leaving aside aspects of health and life expectancy.

Your advice is requested on these.
How does the Chip Fryer fried chip compare to;

a) The chippy chip? Must be better..surely!

b) The chips our mams made in a frying pan in days of yore?

Doesn't it all boil down to what the chips are fried in ?

Some oils have a lower boiling temperature and so don't crisp off the
chips

What you cook them in affects the flavour. How you cook them affects the
crispness. Chips should be twice fried for the best results. About 6-7
minutes at 170C, followed by about 3 minutes at 190C, depending on how brown
you want them. The lower start temperature avoids sealing the surface,
which, by trapping moisture inside, produces soggy chips.

Colin Bignell

"nightjar .uk.com" nightjar@insert_my_surname_here wrote in message
.. .

"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , Arthur
writes
I've never owned or..I think..eaten chips made in one
of these new fangled Chip Fryers'.
Leaving aside aspects of health and life expectancy.

Your advice is requested on these.
How does the Chip Fryer fried chip compare to;

a) The chippy chip? Must be better..surely!

b) The chips our mams made in a frying pan in days of yore?

Doesn't it all boil down to what the chips are fried in ?

Some oils have a lower boiling temperature and so don't crisp off the
chips

What you cook them in affects the flavour. How you cook them affects the
crispness. Chips should be twice fried for the best results. About 6-7
minutes at 170C, followed by about 3 minutes at 190C, depending on how
brown you want them. The lower start temperature avoids sealing the
surface, which, by trapping moisture inside, produces soggy chips.

Spot on.

I don't know of any oil which doesn't reach 190 - some might nat be GOOD at
that heat but they'll all reach it.

Mary

Colin Bignell

Arthur wrote:

I've never owned or..I think..eaten chips made in one
of these new fangled Chip Fryers'.
Leaving aside aspects of health and life expectancy.

Your advice is requested on these.
How does the Chip Fryer fried chip compare to;

a) The chippy chip? Must be better..surely!

b) The chips our mams made in a frying pan in days of yore?

Arthur.





Mother-in-law had a built-in deep fat fryer, possibly Domino (which I
think is made by Neff?). It's long gone and I never saw her use it.
Not for health reasons, if her current method of roasting spuds is
anything to go by - she uses and re-uses lard for spud roasting!!!


Richard

Richard Savage wrote in message ...

anything to go by - she uses and re-uses lard for spud roasting!!!

recipe for a heart attack. Trouble is people dont care.... until they
get seriuosly ill, then they wonder what in blue hell they were
thinking, but its too late.

Its perfectly poss to make good chips without those risks.


NT

In article ,
N. Thornton wrote:
anything to go by - she uses and re-uses lard for spud roasting!!!

recipe for a heart attack. Trouble is people dont care.... until they
get seriuosly ill, then they wonder what in blue hell they were
thinking, but its too late.

Think like everything, in moderation, it won't do you any harm. But not
something to have every day.

Its perfectly poss to make good chips without those risks.

I've not found roast potatoes any good in oil. Chips can be, though.
Personally, I have either boiled potatoes in their jackets, or baked. Less
work. ;-)

Chips or roast only once in a while.

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(N. Thornton) wrote in message . com...
Richard Savage wrote in message ...

anything to go by - she uses and re-uses lard for spud roasting!!!

recipe for a heart attack. Trouble is people dont care.... until they
get seriuosly ill, then they wonder what in blue hell they were
thinking, but its too late.

Eating chips cooked in lard will not, on it's own, significantly raise
your chances of a heart attack. If the rest of you diet and lifestyle
is also unhealthy then that's another matter.

Its perfectly poss to make good chips without those risks.

But not *as* good.

MBQ

In article , MBQ wrote:

[snip]
Eating chips cooked in lard will not, on it's own, significantly raise
your chances of a heart attack. If the rest of you diet and lifestyle
is also unhealthy then that's another matter.

Its perfectly poss to make good chips without those risks.

But not *as* good.

MBQ

You can do MUCH better. Try chips in cold pressed sunflower oil.
(Difficult to find and expensive in the UK, but remember this when you're
shopping in Italy
Don't try this with cold pressed olive oil, it degrades too quickly at
chip frying temperatures.

--
Jan
Well I guess cooking is a valid d-i-y topic.