[williamwright]

I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic of
the elderly. I hope I don't ever get like that.

Bill

[John Rumm]

On 11/06/2021 14:29, williamwright wrote:

I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic of
the elderly. I hope I don't ever get like that.

I am sure someone will warn you if you do!


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[T i m]

On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:53:19 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 11/06/2021 14:29, williamwright wrote:

I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic of
the elderly. I hope I don't ever get like that.

I am sure someone will warn you if you do!

Both of you to help I tried, the indoctrination runs deep it does.

https://ibb.co/0CMRm0B ;-)

"Pass on what you have learned."

;-)

Cheers, T i m

[Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)]

One thing I do notice with age is what I used to moan about others doing.
Telling the same story twice, but I now realise its not that you forget you
have told the story, its just that you unremember who you told it to.
Brian

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On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:53:19 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 11/06/2021 14:29, williamwright wrote:

I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic of
the elderly. I hope I don't ever get like that.

I am sure someone will warn you if you do!

Both of you to help I tried, the indoctrination runs deep it does.

https://ibb.co/0CMRm0B ;-)

"Pass on what you have learned."

;-)

Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 16:17:59 +0100, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)"
wrote:

One thing I do notice with age is what I used to moan about others doing.
Telling the same story twice, but I now realise its not that you forget you
have told the story, its just that you unremember who you told it to.

Yup, that can happen but what is worse when they don't tell you so.

Nothing wrong with an 'Oh yes, I think you mentioned that before' to
save you both time (and to show you were listening and remember from
the first time). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[R D S[_2_]]

On 11/06/2021 16:26, T i m wrote:

Nothing wrong with an 'Oh yes, I think you mentioned that before' to
save you both time (and to show you were listening and remember from
the first time). ;-)

Yeah,
What about when you say "have I already told you..." and they say not,
but you're almost certain you have, hence they probably don't listen to you.

And my missus often tells me things that i've told her.

[Richard[_10_]]

On 11/06/2021 15:43, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:53:19 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 11/06/2021 14:29, williamwright wrote:

I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic of
the elderly. I hope I don't ever get like that.

I am sure someone will warn you if you do!

Both of you to help I tried, the indoctrination runs deep it does.

https://ibb.co/0CMRm0B ;-)

Here,
https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/193...ve-export-ban/


Perhaps you could stop with the sermons here and do something positive
to stop the cruelty. I am against the export of live animals. They
should be slaughtered in the countries where they are bred and exported
as a foodstuff.
Hopefully you are grown up enough to understand that.

[T i m]

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 08:49:30 +0100, Richard
wrote:

snip

Perhaps you could stop with the sermons here

Sermons to you are advocacy / passion to protect innocent and sentient
creatures to others.

and do something positive
to stop the cruelty.

I am doing *WAY* more then you could ever do by signing petitions ...
I'm not supporting the process in the first place!

See, it's easy. If everyone stopped paying to have all these animals
killed and exploited, they would stop killing and exploiting them. It
*really* couldn't be any simpler could it (even for you)!

https://ibb.co/XxFLT2y

I am against the export of live animals.

Why is that then. Do they not still die at the end of their trip
*anyway*? Surely a couple of days of discomfort is nothing compared
with only living a fraction of your natural life? Now, when you show
me livestock willingly bolt gunning itself in the head or walking into
a gas chamber then cutting it's own throat as opposed to desperately
trying to avoid when it knows is likely to not be what it wants for
itself, then I would agree with your virtue signaling.

They
should be slaughtered in the countries where they are bred and exported
as a foodstuff.

Nope, see, again you are fighting the wrong cause. They shouldn't be
slaughtered at all and the chances are the vast majority wouldn't be
if the people wanting to consume their flesh had to do it themselves.

Doesn't that tell you anything about just how unnatural (in most of
the civilised population in 2021) and barbaric it is, if most people
couldn't do it and certainly would let their kids even see it?

And talking of that, look how early the indoctrination starts:

https://ibb.co/wcMQjvn

"Cows produce milk for their calves (and people) to drink."

No they ****ing don't. Cows don't and never have produced milk 'for
people to drink'. They have only ever produced milk for their calves
to drink and we steal it off them, often killing the calf to do so!

Does that not sound sick to you?

Can you not see how logically inconsistent it all is?

https://ibb.co/NNXLFmx

Hopefully you are grown up enough to understand that.

Oh the irony.

https://ibb.co/tm1WzCR ;-)

No, the bottom line is 'most people' prefer to bury their heads and
morals in the sand and carry on doing what they were brought up to do
and accept as 'normal' because they are normalised to the idea and
addicted to the taste (dopamine). Because of the (apparent) social
acceptance, normalisation, commercialisation and marketing we continue
to 'go along with it' but if they dared to look just a little closer,
most people would question it all (especially if forced to do it
themselves).

So the truth is most people are sufficiently abstract from it all to
allow the cognitive dissonance, the logical inconsistency and the
physic numbing to override their morals, meaning that ITRW, people
don't really like and respect animals, they love their pets and some
'special cause' (often a man made issue) wildlife ... or abused
donkeys but really prefer not to confront what would be real internal
conflicts if they were only to open their eyes and minds.

Cheers, T i m

[Spike[_6_]]

On 12/06/2021 09:06, T i m wrote:

I am doing *WAY* more then you could ever do by signing petitions ...
I'm not supporting the process in the first place!

See, it's easy. If everyone stopped paying to have all these animals
killed and exploited, they would stop killing and exploiting them. It
*really* couldn't be any simpler could it (even for you)!

Sounds like dog-in-a-manger.

You had the benefit of 60 years as a meat-eater, and now you want to
remove everybody's freedom of choice on the matter by forcing us all to
go 'vegan'. However, medical science is moving towards the state where a
vegan diet can be seen to be positively dangerous.

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[Richard[_10_]]

On 12/06/2021 10:06, T i m wrote:

snip the garbage you posted and retain the link I supplied

Here,
https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/193...ve-export-ban/


I tried.
You are completely irrational.

[Andrew[_22_]]

On 12/06/2021 10:06, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 08:49:30 +0100, Richard
wrote:

snip

Perhaps you could stop with the sermons here

Sermons to you are advocacy / passion to protect innocent and sentient
creatures to others.

and do something positive
to stop the cruelty.



Hopefully you are grown up enough to understand that.


snip even more emotive nonsense.

D i m wants to live in world where huge numbers of animal
species would become extinct, because unless there is a reason
for them to exist, no-one is going to waste money keeping them,
apart from hobby farmers with huge primary assets and incomes.
Few if any of the animals will be bred because at some point
there will be too many. Just like the nonsense of 'rewilding'
parts of the country because unless you reintroduce wolves and
bears? too, there will be no natural predators for wild deer and
boar, who then multiply and end up causing a nuisance or simply
dying from starvation because there are too many of them.

[Fredxx[_4_]]

On 12/06/2021 10:06, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 08:49:30 +0100, Richard
wrote:

snip

Perhaps you could stop with the sermons here

Sermons to you are advocacy / passion to protect innocent and sentient
creatures to others.

and do something positive
to stop the cruelty.

I am doing *WAY* more then you could ever do by signing petitions ...
I'm not supporting the process in the first place!

Quite, you do more to encourage the eating of meat than anyone else I know.

See, it's easy. If everyone stopped paying to have all these animals
killed and exploited, they would stop killing and exploiting them. It
*really* couldn't be any simpler could it (even for you)!

It isn't so easy. Eating a strict vegan diet is shown to be damaging for
children. There are a lot of health warning given by medical
professionals when embarking on a vegan diet.

https://ibb.co/XxFLT2y

I am against the export of live animals.

Why is that then. Do they not still die at the end of their trip
*anyway*? Surely a couple of days of discomfort is nothing compared
with only living a fraction of your natural life? Now, when you show
me livestock willingly bolt gunning itself in the head or walking into
a gas chamber then cutting it's own throat as opposed to desperately
trying to avoid when it knows is likely to not be what it wants for
itself, then I would agree with your virtue signaling.

The only signal is that many of us are against the export of live
animals. Whereas you don't make the same claim and so contribute to the
status quo.

They
should be slaughtered in the countries where they are bred and exported
as a foodstuff.

Nope,

I can assure you they could.

see, again you are fighting the wrong cause.

It is the right cause.

They shouldn't be
slaughtered at all and the chances are the vast majority wouldn't be
if the people wanting to consume their flesh had to do it themselves.

Wrong. We live in an advanced society so processes are compartmentalised
into jobs. In much the same way you watch a TV you didn't build, I eat
meat that has been slaughtered by someone else.

Doesn't that tell you anything about just how unnatural (in most of
the civilised population in 2021) and barbaric it is, if most people
couldn't do it and certainly would let their kids even see it?

We have evolved to eat meat, to consume vitamins that are only present
in meat and meat products.

Yes, we know you're a pervert and would like children to watch various
acts that would be classed as age restricted.

And talking of that, look how early the indoctrination starts:

https://ibb.co/wcMQjvn

"Cows produce milk for their calves (and people) to drink."

No they ****ing don't. Cows don't and never have produced milk 'for
people to drink'. They have only ever produced milk for their calves
to drink and we steal it off them, often killing the calf to do so!

Does that not sound sick to you?

No, because we have evolved to digest milk in adulthood. You may be the
exception here where your doctor has advised not to drink milk.

Can you not see how logically inconsistent it all is?

https://ibb.co/NNXLFmx

Quite, this is consistent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALnsIHIupnk

Hopefully you are grown up enough to understand that.

Oh the irony.

https://ibb.co/tm1WzCR ;-)

Is that meant to convey a message?

No, the bottom line is 'most people' prefer to bury their heads and
morals in the sand and carry on doing what they were brought up to do
and accept as 'normal' because they are normalised to the idea and
addicted to the taste (dopamine). Because of the (apparent) social
acceptance, normalisation, commercialisation and marketing we continue
to 'go along with it' but if they dared to look just a little closer,
most people would question it all (especially if forced to do it
themselves).

The bottom line is I want my family eat eat a healthy balanced diet. For
the young ones in my family to maintain normal brain development, rather
than eating a vegan diet and end up with a low IQ.

So the truth is most people are sufficiently abstract from it all to
allow the cognitive dissonance, the logical inconsistency and the
physic numbing to override their morals, meaning that ITRW, people
don't really like and respect animals, they love their pets and some
'special cause' (often a man made issue) wildlife ... or abused
donkeys but really prefer not to confront what would be real internal
conflicts if they were only to open their eyes and minds.

The truth is we want a natural balanced, wholesome diet, one that
doesn't disadvantage our loved ones and growing children.

Not much to ask for, is it?

BTW, there is no cognitive dissonance. It must appear greatly in your
life to keep mentioning it. No ethical vegan would keep pets, but a
fanatical one, envious we're allowed to eat meat, must be in a great
dilemma.

[Fredxx[_4_]]

On 11/06/2021 15:43, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:53:19 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 11/06/2021 14:29, williamwright wrote:

I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic of
the elderly. I hope I don't ever get like that.

I am sure someone will warn you if you do!

Both of you to help I tried, the indoctrination runs deep it does.

https://ibb.co/0CMRm0B ;-)

"Pass on what you have learned."

;-)

Trust you revert to your fanatical norm.

You are the perfect example of "irrational attitudes displayed that are
characteristic of the elderly".

[R D S[_2_]]

On 11/06/2021 14:29, williamwright wrote:
I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic of
the elderly.

What's an example?

[Andrew[_22_]]

On 11/06/2021 14:55, R D S wrote:
On 11/06/2021 14:29, williamwright wrote:
I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic
of the elderly.

What's an example?

That clown, who with his degree in agriculture, thinks
he is an expert on 'global warming'

[Tim+[_5_]]

williamwright wrote:
I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic of
the elderly. I hope I don't ever get like that.

Bill


Dont worry. If you do, you almost certainly wont realise it. ;-)

Tim

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[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article ,
williamwright wrote:
I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic of
the elderly. I hope I don't ever get like that.

Like always carrying your mobile phone at home in case you have a 'turn'?
;-)

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[Andrew[_22_]]

On 11/06/2021 15:48, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
williamwright wrote:
I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic of
the elderly. I hope I don't ever get like that.

Like always carrying your mobile phone at home in case you have a 'turn'?
;-)


Or carrying a mobile phone *and* a spare battery in the other pocket.
Must be a really old phone if it takes a spare battery ?

[williamwright]

On 11/06/2021 15:48, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
williamwright wrote:
I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic of
the elderly. I hope I don't ever get like that.

Like always carrying your mobile phone at home in case you have a 'turn'?
;-)

No! That's just sensible.

Bill

[Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)]

No of course not, Its a good job tvs don't have a picture valve any more.
Who remembers this advice when a person answered the door. The fact that the
cat had knocked a vase of flowers over the day before which was stood on the
top of the telly never crossed their mind.
Brian

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I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic of the
elderly. I hope I don't ever get like that.

Bill

[alan_m]

On 11/06/2021 14:29, williamwright wrote:
I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic of
the elderly. I hope I don't ever get like that.

Bill

The yoof of today have no understanding of what it's like to be elderly

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[ss]

On 12/06/2021 12:50, alan_m wrote:
On 11/06/2021 14:29, williamwright wrote:
I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic
of the elderly. I hope I don't ever get like that.

Bill

The yoof of today have no understanding of what it's like to be elderly


Do you know how weird it feels to be the same age as old people. :-)

[Tim Lamb[_2_]]

In message , ss
writes
On 12/06/2021 12:50, alan_m wrote:
On 11/06/2021 14:29, williamwright wrote:
I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic
of the elderly. I hope I don't ever get like that.

Bill
The yoof of today have no understanding of what it's like to be
elderly


Do you know how weird it feels to be the same age as old people. :-)

Indeed. I am now older than my father and catching up to my mother!

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[Andrew[_22_]]

On 13/06/2021 16:32, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , ss
writes
On 12/06/2021 12:50, alan_m wrote:
On 11/06/2021 14:29, williamwright wrote:
I keep seeing irrational attitudes displayed that are characteristic
of the elderly. I hope I don't ever get like that.

Bill
Â*The yoof of today have no understanding of what it's like to be
elderly


Do you know how weird it feels to be the same age as old people.Â* :-)

Indeed. I am now older than my father and catching up to my mother!


The Mid 2022/23 revision might be an interesting comparison.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...d2019estimates