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Being of a certain age, my mobile is only really for use out and about.
Indoors, I prefer my landline. Which has more than enough phones on it. ;-)

So when indoors, the mobile gets left in the kitchen. on charge. And I
can't hear it ring elsewhere in the house.

What I'd like is incoming calls to my mobile to transfer automatically to
the land line. (maybe tell the caller this is happening)

If it only did this when the mobile is at home, so much the better. In
other words, automatically.

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On 10/06/2021 12:20, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Being of a certain age, my mobile is only really for use out and about.
Indoors, I prefer my landline. Which has more than enough phones on it. ;-)

So when indoors, the mobile gets left in the kitchen. on charge. And I
can't hear it ring elsewhere in the house.

What I'd like is incoming calls to my mobile to transfer automatically to
the land line. (maybe tell the caller this is happening)

If it only did this when the mobile is at home, so much the better. In
other words, automatically.


It should be possible to do that (even if it needed extra software
adding), using either geolocation or the fact that it can see your home
wifi, but you get charged for the diverted calls with most mobile packages.
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On 10/06/2021 12:20, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Being of a certain age, my mobile is only really for use out and about.
Indoors, I prefer my landline. Which has more than enough phones on it.
;-)

So when indoors, the mobile gets left in the kitchen. on charge. And I
can't hear it ring elsewhere in the house.

What I'd like is incoming calls to my mobile to transfer automatically to
the land line. (maybe tell the caller this is happening)

If it only did this when the mobile is at home, so much the better. In
other words, automatically.


It should be possible to do that (even if it needed extra software
adding), using either geolocation or the fact that it can see your home
wifi, but you get charged for the diverted calls with most mobile
packages.


Not with my mobile plan, unlimited calls and texts
and MMSs to any landline or mobile in the country.

Bit tricky to have that happen auto when the mobile
is in the house tho. Tho IFTTT likely can do that.

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On 10/06/2021 12:27, Steve Walker wrote:
On 10/06/2021 12:20, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Being of a certain age, my mobile is only really for use out and about.
Indoors, I prefer my landline. Which has more than enough phones on
it. ;-)

So when indoors, the mobile gets left in the kitchen. on charge. And I
can't hear it ring elsewhere in the house.

What I'd like is incoming calls to my mobile to transfer automatically to
the land line. (maybe tell the caller this is happening)

If it only did this when the mobile is at home, so much the better. In
other words, automatically.


It should be possible to do that (even if it needed extra software
adding), using either geolocation or the fact that it can see your home
wifi, but you get charged for the diverted calls with most mobile packages.


We've used a Panasonic landline on which you can register two different
mobiles. The mobile can sit on its charger, and calls to it will ring on
all the landline units.
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On 10/06/2021 12:20, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Being of a certain age, my mobile is only really for use out and about.
Indoors, I prefer my landline. Which has more than enough phones on it. ;-)


It isn't your age, it's your general attitude to modern technology!
(Surprising in a technocrat!)


So when indoors, the mobile gets left in the kitchen. on charge. And I
can't hear it ring elsewhere in the house.

What I'd like is incoming calls to my mobile to transfer automatically to
the land line. (maybe tell the caller this is happening)

If it only did this when the mobile is at home, so much the better. In
other words, automatically.

Put the mobile in your pocket. What if you fall over and can't get up? I
never move without my phone in my pocket. You should also have your
mobile at the bedside, on charge overnight.

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On 10/06/2021 12:20, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Being of a certain age, my mobile is only really for use out and about.
Indoors, I prefer my landline. Which has more than enough phones on it.
;-)


It isn't your age, it's your general attitude to modern technology!


Yep.

(Surprising in a technocrat!)


Nope, there are always some dinosaurs. A few stupidly
only have a stupidphone or no mobile at all.

So when indoors, the mobile gets left in the kitchen. on charge. And I
can't hear it ring elsewhere in the house.


What I'd like is incoming calls to my mobile to transfer automatically to
the land line. (maybe tell the caller this is happening)


If it only did this when the mobile is at home, so much the better. In
other words, automatically.


Put the mobile in your pocket. What if you fall over and can't get up?


I only do that when out of the house or on the roof etc.

Inside the house the google home mini and alexas can call 911 etc.

I never move without my phone in my pocket.


I leave mine in the same place when I am inside.

You should also have your mobile at the bedside, on charge overnight.


Makes more sense with inductive charging to
have a charger where you put the phone down.

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Nope, there are always some dinosaurs. A few stupidly
only have a stupidphone or no mobile at all.


The resident octogenerian troll is actually "proud" of being a mindless
consumer and of being a Google-, Apple- and M$ adorer and of all his silly
electronical gadgets he surrounds himself with in his typical senile manner!
LOL

Talked to your Alexa much lately again, you lonely senile sociopathic troll?
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Put the mobile in your pocket. What if you fall over and can't get up? I
never move without my phone in my pocket.


And it gets smashed when you fall. ;-) That's assuming it doesn't fall out
of your pocket when doing the gardening or whatever.

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Put the mobile in your pocket. What if you fall over and can't get up? I
never move without my phone in my pocket.


And it gets smashed when you fall. ;-) That's assuming it doesn't fall out
of your pocket when doing the gardening or whatever.


It doesn't get smashed because you have it in a case. My phone is
ancient and it and I have fallen considerable distances with no damage
except to me.
It doesn't fall out of your pocket because it's buttoned in. You are an
old pessimist when it suits aren't you?

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Put the mobile in your pocket. What if you fall over and can't get up? I
never move without my phone in my pocket.


And it gets smashed when you fall. ;-) That's assuming it doesn't fall out
of your pocket when doing the gardening or whatever.


It doesn't get smashed because you have it in a case. My phone is
ancient and it and I have fallen considerable distances with no damage
except to me.
It doesn't fall out of your pocket because it's buttoned in. You are an
old pessimist when it suits aren't you?


I really can't be bothered carrying a phone with me everywhere at home.
And it's not an ancient one because I want a decent one when out and
about. But at home I'd rather use the landline. In exactly the same way as
I prefer to use a computer to post here than the mobile. And a decent TV
to view things on, rather than a mobile. And so on.

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Put the mobile in your pocket. What if you fall over and can't get up? I
never move without my phone in my pocket.

And it gets smashed when you fall. ;-) That's assuming it doesn't fall out
of your pocket when doing the gardening or whatever.


It doesn't get smashed because you have it in a case. My phone is
ancient and it and I have fallen considerable distances with no damage
except to me.
It doesn't fall out of your pocket because it's buttoned in. You are an
old pessimist when it suits aren't you?


I really can't be bothered carrying a phone with me everywhere at home.
And it's not an ancient one because I want a decent one when out and
about. But at home I'd rather use the landline. In exactly the same way as
I prefer to use a computer to post here than the mobile. And a decent TV
to view things on, rather than a mobile. And so on.


I want a phone that fits comfortably in my pocket, so not too large. I
make sure there is nothing else hard or metallic in the same pocket. I
also used a protective cover that has protected it when I've dropped it
a few times. I tend to have it with me when around the house and work.

I used the landline for internet only and use the mobile for all calls.
I often use a Bluetooth headset to free my hands if I want to carry on
with what I'm doing.

I did have one phone where I cracked the screen whilst in my pocket. I'm
pretty sure I leant on it, bit still got it repaired under warranty.
There were no hints of any marking on the outside so was explained as a
spontaneous crack.
Like watches I don't want to pay too much for a phone that is easily
broken or stolen. All mine have been sub £100.

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Put the mobile in your pocket. What if you fall over and can't get up?
I
never move without my phone in my pocket.

And it gets smashed when you fall. ;-) That's assuming it doesn't fall
out
of your pocket when doing the gardening or whatever.


It doesn't get smashed because you have it in a case. My phone is
ancient and it and I have fallen considerable distances with no damage
except to me.
It doesn't fall out of your pocket because it's buttoned in. You are an
old pessimist when it suits aren't you?


I really can't be bothered carrying a phone with me everywhere at home.
And it's not an ancient one because I want a decent one when out and
about. But at home I'd rather use the landline. In exactly the same way as
I prefer to use a computer to post here than the mobile. And a decent TV
to view things on, rather than a mobile. And so on.


Its different with those. Using the mobile for all calls works much
better than using both a landline and mobile as you have discovered.

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I really can't be bothered carrying a phone with me everywhere at home.
And it's not an ancient one because I want a decent one when out and
about. But at home I'd rather use the landline.


+1

Additionally, on PAYG it costs me to listen to messages, whilst
the answerphone on my landline is free to access.

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williamwright wrote:
Put the mobile in your pocket. What if you fall over and can't get up? I
never move without my phone in my pocket.

And it gets smashed when you fall. ;-) That's assuming it doesn't fall out
of your pocket when doing the gardening or whatever.


It doesn't get smashed because you have it in a case. My phone is
ancient and it and I have fallen considerable distances with no damage
except to me.
It doesn't fall out of your pocket because it's buttoned in. You are an
old pessimist when it suits aren't you?


I really can't be bothered carrying a phone with me everywhere at home.
And it's not an ancient one because I want a decent one when out and
about. But at home I'd rather use the landline. In exactly the same way as
I prefer to use a computer to post here than the mobile. And a decent TV
to view things on, rather than a mobile. And so on.

As in the Unix philosophy single devices which are good at doin one
thing:-

Landline phone - for making phone calls
Camera - for taking pictures
Laptop - for interactive computing

E.g. when at home the phone rings and I pick it up to answer, no
button pressing, things that don't work with wet fingers, swipes that
are different on different phones, etc.

My (pocketable) camera has a proper viewfinder, have you ever seen a
prefessional/competant photographer using a camera without a viewfinder?

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On 10/06/2021 12:20, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Being of a certain age, my mobile is only really for use out and about.
Indoors, I prefer my landline. Which has more than enough phones on it. ;-)


It isn't your age, it's your general attitude to modern technology!
(Surprising in a technocrat!)


So when indoors, the mobile gets left in the kitchen. on charge. And I
can't hear it ring elsewhere in the house.

What I'd like is incoming calls to my mobile to transfer automatically to
the land line. (maybe tell the caller this is happening)

If it only did this when the mobile is at home, so much the better. In
other words, automatically.

Put the mobile in your pocket. What if you fall over and can't get up? I
never move without my phone in my pocket. You should also have your
mobile at the bedside, on charge overnight.

What if you fall over and smash it?

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On 10/06/2021 12:20, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Being of a certain age, my mobile is only really for use out and about.
Indoors, I prefer my landline. Which has more than enough phones on it.
;-)


It isn't your age, it's your general attitude to modern technology!
(Surprising in a technocrat!)


So when indoors, the mobile gets left in the kitchen. on charge. And I
can't hear it ring elsewhere in the house.

What I'd like is incoming calls to my mobile to transfer automatically
to
the land line. (maybe tell the caller this is happening)

If it only did this when the mobile is at home, so much the better. In
other words, automatically.

Put the mobile in your pocket. What if you fall over and can't get up? I
never move without my phone in my pocket. You should also have your
mobile at the bedside, on charge overnight.

What if you fall over and smash it?


Mine would still work fine using siri.

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What if you fall over and smash it?


Mine would still work fine using siri.


You can shove your idiotic Siri up your flabby senile arse, just like your
idiotic Alexa, your idiotPhone, your idiotic Philips Hue and all your other
idiotic electronic gadgets that you try to brag about here, you miserable
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Put the mobile in your pocket. What if you fall over and can't get up? I
never move without my phone in my pocket. You should also have your
mobile at the bedside, on charge overnight.

What if you fall over and smash it?


That's very unlikely if it's in a little case like mine.

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Put the mobile in your pocket. What if you fall over and can't get up? I
never move without my phone in my pocket. You should also have your
mobile at the bedside, on charge overnight.

What if you fall over and smash it?


That's very unlikely if it's in a little case like mine.

Bill


If you smash it in a way that means you can't make a call for help,
you're no worse off than you would have been with empty pockets !

I agree with Bill - other than that I always carry a spare,
fully-charged battery in my other pocket.

And a new, basic, phone? Less than a tenner.

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On 10/06/2021 21:16, Chris Green wrote:

Put the mobile in your pocket. What if you fall over and can't get up? I
never move without my phone in my pocket. You should also have your
mobile at the bedside, on charge overnight.

What if you fall over and smash it?


That's very unlikely if it's in a little case like mine.

Bill


If you smash it in a way that means you can't make a call for help,
you're no worse off than you would have been with empty pockets !

I agree with Bill - other than that I always carry a spare,
fully-charged battery in my other pocket.

And a new, basic, phone? Less than a tenner.

Of course you could just as easily carry a DECT landline phone around
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Being of a certain age, my mobile is only really for use out and about.
Indoors, I prefer my landline.


I do everything on the mobile now.

That way you get to the incoming call where
ever you happen to be and can decide whether
to answer it or not when out and about.

Just the one set of contacts and call history etc.

Which has more than enough phones on it. ;-)


So when indoors, the mobile gets left in the kitchen. on
charge. And I can't hear it ring elsewhere in the house.


What I'd like is incoming calls to my mobile to transfer automatically
to the land line. (maybe tell the caller this is happening)


If it only did this when the mobile is at home, so
much the better. In other words, automatically.


You wouldn’t have to fart around like that if you used the mobile for all
calls.

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You wouldn¢t have to fart around like that if you used the mobile for all
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Not everyone is a mindless consuming old fart like you who is actually proud
of being a mindless consumer, you abnormal octogenerian trolling senile
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Being of a certain age, my mobile is only really for use out and about.
Indoors, I prefer my landline. Which has more than enough phones on it. ;-)

So when indoors, the mobile gets left in the kitchen. on charge. And I
can't hear it ring elsewhere in the house.

What I'd like is incoming calls to my mobile to transfer automatically to
the land line. (maybe tell the caller this is happening)

If it only did this when the mobile is at home, so much the better. In
other words, automatically.


I was looking at this:


https://www.panasonic.com/uk/consume...-tgh264eb.html

but can't quite justify the expense, or the replacement of the otherwise fine
cordless phones I already have.
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On 11/06/2021 04:59, RJH wrote:
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wrote:

Being of a certain age, my mobile is only really for use out and about.
Indoors, I prefer my landline. Which has more than enough phones on it. ;-)

So when indoors, the mobile gets left in the kitchen. on charge. And I
can't hear it ring elsewhere in the house.

What I'd like is incoming calls to my mobile to transfer automatically to
the land line. (maybe tell the caller this is happening)

If it only did this when the mobile is at home, so much the better. In
other words, automatically.


I was looking at this:


https://www.panasonic.com/uk/consume...-tgh264eb.html

but can't quite justify the expense, or the replacement of the otherwise fine
cordless phones I already have.

We have a similar one, and are pleased with how it works. Although it
says you can register two mobiles, I've found that it can handle as many
as four mobile lines, if the phones you register to it are dual-SIM.
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Being of a certain age, my mobile is only really for use out and
about. Indoors, I prefer my landline. Which has more than enough
phones on it. ;-)

So when indoors, the mobile gets left in the kitchen. on charge. And I
can't hear it ring elsewhere in the house.

What I'd like is incoming calls to my mobile to transfer automatically
to the land line. (maybe tell the caller this is happening)

If it only did this when the mobile is at home, so much the better. In
other words, automatically.


I was looking at this:



https://www.panasonic.com/uk/consume...-tgh264eb.html


but can't quite justify the expense, or the replacement of the otherwise
fine cordless phones I already have.


It would need to be something that interfaces with the landline, rather
than an individual phone.

History - I've lived here long before mobile phones arrived, or indeed
cordless ones - is why every room in the house has a landline socket. And
most a phone too. So if the landline rings, I can hear and answer it
anywhere. Or make a phone call.

I've no need for a mobile phone contract given its limited use, so it is
PAYG. Relying on BT to give me an internet connection when out and about
in London if needed.

And I simply don't want to carry it at all times.

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wrote:


Being of a certain age, my mobile is only really for use out and
about. Indoors, I prefer my landline. Which has more than enough
phones on it. ;-)

So when indoors, the mobile gets left in the kitchen. on charge. And I
can't hear it ring elsewhere in the house.

What I'd like is incoming calls to my mobile to transfer automatically
to the land line. (maybe tell the caller this is happening)

If it only did this when the mobile is at home, so much the better. In
other words, automatically.


I was looking at this:



https://www.panasonic.com/uk/consume...-tgh264eb.html


but can't quite justify the expense, or the replacement of the otherwise
fine cordless phones I already have.


It would need to be something that interfaces with the landline, rather
than an individual phone.

History - I've lived here long before mobile phones arrived, or indeed
cordless ones - is why every room in the house has a landline socket. And
most a phone too. So if the landline rings, I can hear and answer it
anywhere. Or make a phone call.

I've no need for a mobile phone contract given its limited use, so it is
PAYG.


But its usually cheaper to ditch the landline and have the cheapest
mobile plan that has unlimited calls and texts and MMSs in the
country and often to the other first world countrys too.

Relying on BT to give me an internet connection
when out and about in London if needed.


And I simply don't want to carry it at all times.


You don’t need to but should as you get more decrepit unless
you have other ways to call someone if you fall and cant get up.

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Being of a certain age, my mobile is only really for use out and about.
Indoors, I prefer my landline. Which has more than enough phones on it. ;-)

So when indoors, the mobile gets left in the kitchen. on charge. And I
can't hear it ring elsewhere in the house.

What I'd like is incoming calls to my mobile to transfer automatically to
the land line. (maybe tell the caller this is happening)

If it only did this when the mobile is at home, so much the better. In
other words, automatically.


I am the same, but I do it the other way around. I have my landline
number always ring on my mobile as well as the landline. I ask everyone
to always use my landline number.

I do this by using VOIP for my landline and by my mobile being a
smartphone. I got my old BT phone number transferred to VOIP about 10
years ago, it is good quality and reliable.

If you get phone and internet via openreach you can transfer a phone
number to VOIP when converting the line to SoGEA.

VOIP on the mobile isn't always brilliant but it is good enough and I
can always phone back on the actual mobile number if there are problems.
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