On 06/06/2021 06:08 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/06/2021 18:02, JNugent wrote:
On 06/06/2021 03:06 pm, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Got a new TV which has a built in satellite tuner. Good news in that it
will reduce STB clutter. Although I mainly used FreeView - FTA satellite
just for playing with, as I have a 1 metre dish and rotator.

TV gives me the choice of FreeSat or 'other'. 'Other' allows as many
sats
as I want and controls the dish. But unlike the old STB, a very limited
EPG.

So tried FreeSat. Which complains about postcode. Googling says this
comes
from Eutelsat 28E, but the progs from Astra 28E

The 'other' list on the new TV gives all the Astras, and several
Eutelsat,
but no Eutelsat 28. Set the dish motor to Astra 28, and that shows
100/100%

About the one thing I did quite often use satellite for was to watch
regional opt outs from BBC and ITV Scotland.

Does the satellite tuner in the TV enable recording off-air (maybe
onto a tethered hard drive or data stick)?

I ask because it's hard to envisage TV watching these days without
some facility for time-shifting (if not archiving).

I admit that I don't know much about Freesat, but I assume - perhaps
wrongly - that boxes with hard drives (analogous to Sky+) are available.

Without that, one would be reliant on some sort of internet-based
catch-up service for the channels not available via the terrestrial
catch-up services.

you can stuff a DVB-S tuner car in a PC and record off that

I dare say that's true and that it has some uses.

But I remember that there was a time when one could only get the iPlayer
(and similar services) on a computer of whatever sort and an industry
bigwig was reported as saying that it needed to be "on the TV" (ie,
provide an experience more like a video recorder). That's certainly in
line with my own view of recording TV. It needs to be part of the TV set-up.