On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?Â* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries.Â* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery.Â* I'm not so sure that's going to
work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from
the body there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or, now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus that the immune system can learn the
characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and can cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.


People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's clearly not safe.
And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either.
I'm pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us.

Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine
side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system
reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body
there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or,
now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus
that the immune system can learn the characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and
can cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.


People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's
clearly not safe.
And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so
apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either.
I'm pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us.

At the beginning, there were around 110 or more projects to
produce a virus. The methodology varies, but there might
have been a half dozen different forms. One of our national
news sites, had a long web page, tracking the various
approaches. The reason so many projects took off, was
to try to find something effective. When you read the article
on RNA_Vaccine, you can see based on its research history,
what a long shot it was.

For a summary of the successful and still-born efforts,
see this article.

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/coro...accinetracker/

*******

The AZ one seems to have a higher risk of clotting, than occurs
naturally in humans. There are enough clotting problems in humans,
before COVID came along, we have a national lab set up here which
does nothing but "genetic tests for clotting conditions". If you're
prone to such conditions, that lab can give a diagnosis so the
doctor knows you've got a problem that needs careful attention.
You can have a genetic predisposition to abnormal clotting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford...VID-19_vaccine

using as a vector the modified chimpanzee adenovirus ChAdOx1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adenoviridae

adenoviral serotypes ... (known as the common cold)

The adenovirus is also modified so it cannot reproduce.
The only exception is some question about the Russian Sputnik,
where there are two adenoviruses, and one of them may not
have been quiesced properly. You might have symptoms of a
cold in that case, The Brazilians rejected Sputnik recently.
The Russians don't agree with their analysis. I don't know
if any other country or body is interested in repeating
the Brazilian analysis or not, as verification. This
represents a violation of protocol, rather than a clear
and present danger. You're not supposed to make vaccines
that way.

*******

The Pfizer is a (messenger) RNA one. That's different than DNA, which
is what makes your cells work. Work on the concept started in 1990
(that's to give time to collect all the three-eyed fish as a byproduct).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine#Mechanism

"mRNA vaccines do not affect or reprogram DNA inside the cell.
The synthetic mRNA fragment is a copy of the specific part
of the viral RNA that carries the instructions to build
the antigen of the virus (a protein spike, in the case of
the main coronavirus mRNA vaccines), and is not related
to human DNA. This misconception was circulated as the
COVID-19 mRNA vaccines came to public prominence, and
is a debunked conspiracy theory."

At least one of the two mRNA ones, there were patients with
clotting, but the rate was the same as the rate for
the general population who had not received a vaccine.
Whereas the AZ one, the rate of clot for that is higher
than background. And it looks like the Germans were
likely right, in their estimate of the clot rate for AZ.

Paul

On 12/05/2021 14:06, Paul wrote:
Whereas the AZ one, the rate of clot for that is higher
than background. And it looks like the Germans were
likely right, in their estimate of the clot rate for AZ.

I am not sure that was in the end true..


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name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating
or condoning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its
logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of
the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead. They must
face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not.

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On 12/05/2021 14:06, Paul wrote:
Whereas the AZ one, the rate of clot for that is higher
than background. And it looks like the Germans were
likely right, in their estimate of the clot rate for AZ.

I am not sure that was in the end true..

Yes it was and was seen in the UK too when they went looking for that.

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trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

FLUSH troll**** unread

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In article ,
Larry wrote:
People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's
clearly not safe. And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to
wear a mask so apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective
either. I'm pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us.

I doubt many in the UK care much what Trump lovers think.

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On 12/05/2021 11:43, Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?Â* Running off what looks like 2 18650
Li Ion batteries.Â* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps
from one battery.Â* I'm not so sure that's going to work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine
side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system
reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body
there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or,
now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus
that the immune system can learn the characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and
can cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.


People are clotting/dying

At a rate barely above what happens in unvaccinated people; far lower
than in people who catch Covid-19; and far lower than in women taking
the pill.

from the experimental gene therapy

There is no gene therapy, that is simply a term used by anti-vaxxers to
spread fear. Gene therapy modifies your DNA and the vaccines do not.

The Pfizer vaccine contains a small section of mRNA (Messenger RNA)
which cells use for communication. Normally these are naturally released
around the body to instruct cells to produce particular proteins and are
used up and eliminated. In this case the mRNA is introduced as a
vaccine. For the short time that it is in the body, it persuades cells
to make a protein with the same spikes as the virus, so that the immune
system can learn to recognise it.

The Astra-Zeneca vaccine contains an altered monkey virus. Humans are
incapable of catching this monkey virus, but the alteration contains the
same spikes as the virus, so that the immune system can learn to
recognise Covid-19.

so it's clearly not safe.

Nothing is safe. You can die from drinking too much water!

The levels of risk are small; smaller than the risks of catching the
virus; and a lot smaller than everyday risks that we are happy to take -
driving or cycling for instance.

And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so
apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either.

No vaccine is 100% effective - yet over many decades, they have
protected billions of people and practically wiped out some deadly
illnesses.

On 5/12/2021 6:43 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?Â* Running off what looks like 2 18650
Li Ion batteries.Â* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps
from one battery.Â* I'm not so sure that's going to work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine
side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system
reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body
there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or,
now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus
that the immune system can learn the characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and
can cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.


People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's
clearly not safe.
And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so
apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either.
I'm pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us.

Google up deaths from blood clots and you will see how common the
problem is. Almost did me in 20 years ago and surgeon said his father
had died from a clot.

"Larry" wrote in message
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On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li
Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from
one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine side-effects
will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system reactions to it
and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body there are no more
effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or, now, an artificial
creation with just enough similarity to the virus that the immune system
can learn the characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and can
cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.


People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy

Nope, those are the ones getting the traditional
AstraZeneca and Johnson and Johnson vaccines.

so it's clearly not safe.

Even those are a hell of a lot safer than getting infected with the virus.

And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask

For other reasons.

so apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either.

Wrong again, we know they are both very effective indeed
and better than the more traditional covid vaccines too.

I'm pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us.

Yep, you actually are that stupid.

On Thu, 13 May 2021 07:59:40 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

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https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/

On 5/12/2021 3:43 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?Â* Running off what looks like 2 18650
Li Ion batteries.Â* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps
from one battery.Â* I'm not so sure that's going to work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine
side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system
reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body
there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or,
now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus
that the immune system can learn the characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and
can cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.


People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's
clearly not safe.

Idiocy! Only 2 vaccines use the RNA (not gene therapy) technology, and
neither has had any clot problems.

On 5/12/21 10:33 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 5/12/2021 3:43 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?Â* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries.Â* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery.Â* I'm not so sure that's going to
work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated
from the body there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or, now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus that the immune system can learn the
characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and can cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.


People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's clearly not safe.

Idiocy! Only 2 vaccines use the RNA (not gene therapy) technology, and neither has had any clot problems.


https://www.infowars.com/posts/moder...-genetic-code/

Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 10:33 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 5/12/2021 3:43 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2
18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's
150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the
field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine
side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune
system reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from
the body there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened
virus or, now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to
the virus that the immune system can learn the characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and
can cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.


People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's
clearly not safe.

Idiocy! Only 2 vaccines use the RNA (not gene therapy) technology, and
neither has had any clot problems.


https://www.infowars.com/posts/moder...-genetic-code/


https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2M10IV

"Zaks talk shows the Moderna boss was using terms such as
"operating system" and "software of life" metaphorically."

"VERDICT

False. mRNA vaccines do not alter the €¯recipients €¯DNA
and€¯ Moderna€¯ CMO Tal €¯Zaks €¯did not say they did.

This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team."

The staff at Moderna who do the actual work, don't
talk like that, because the terminology is not
precise enough for scientific usage. In the picture, you
can see two parts of the immune system being trained up
on the antigen.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ine-en.svg.png

Notice that the RNA activity in this diagram, does not
involve the nucleus at the bottom of the picture. I tried
to find a picture that would include a nucleus in it, just
to make sure.

https://marlin-prod.literatumonline....e459b5/gr1.jpg

The article that diagram is from, has too much advertising to
make good reading.

( April 2019

"mRNA as a Transformative Technology for Vaccine Development to Control Infectious Diseases"

https://www.cell.com/molecular-thera...2819%2930041-3
)

Just as your medical doctor at the clinic, insists on
all that stuff he learned in school like "fibula" when
he could have said something else. When info is passed
from one doctor to another, the hope is that they
all agree what a "fibula" is. Whereas their bushy eyebrows
would wiggle if someone said "software of life". Because
such terminology is bull****.

Paul

On 13/05/2021 11:38, Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 10:33 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 5/12/2021 3:43 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?Â* Running off what looks like 2
18650 Li Ion batteries.Â* So since those are about 4V each, that's
150 amps from one battery.Â* I'm not so sure that's going to work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the
field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine
side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune
system reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from
the body there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened
virus or, now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to
the virus that the immune system can learn the characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and
can cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.


People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's
clearly not safe.

Idiocy! Only 2 vaccines use the RNA (not gene therapy) technology, and
neither has had any clot problems.


https://www.infowars.com/posts/moder...-genetic-code/

I've just watched that and it says no such thing.

For the flu vaccine, it talks about injecting mRNA, which instructs
cells to produce a protein which looks like the virus. The immune system
can then learn to defend against it. Once the mRNA is used up, the cells
will no longer produce that protein and the protein is destroyed. The
only change is that your body has by then learned to defend against the
virus - without the risks of having to catch it to do so.

This is how the Covid-19 vaccine works.

Separately, he then goes on to talk about a life-limiting condition that
means that faulty DNA does not produce mRNA that is required for the
body to produce proteins to help it survive stress. Again mRNA is
injected, but this time as a medication. While the mRNA is in the body,
it acts as a replacement for the mRNA that the body is not producing,
allowing the immune system to function normally. The DNA is not changed,
the fault remains, and injections must be repeated to keep replacing the
mRNA that has been used up.

In neither case is the DNA modified in any way.

On 13/05/2021 13:22, Steve Walker wrote:
On 13/05/2021 11:38, Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 10:33 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 5/12/2021 3:43 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?Â* Running off what looks like 2
18650 Li Ion batteries.Â* So since those are about 4V each, that's
150 amps from one battery.Â* I'm not so sure that's going to work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective"
claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the
field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine
side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune
system reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated
from the body there are no more effects. They contain killed or
weakened virus or, now, an artificial creation with just enough
similarity to the virus that the immune system can learn the
characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect
and can cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.


People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's
clearly not safe.

Idiocy! Only 2 vaccines use the RNA (not gene therapy) technology,
and neither has had any clot problems.


https://www.infowars.com/posts/moder...-genetic-code/


I've just watched that and it says no such thing.

For the flu vaccine, it talks about injecting mRNA, which instructs
cells to produce a protein which looks like the virus. The immune system
can then learn to defend against it. Once the mRNA is used up, the cells
will no longer produce that protein and the protein is destroyed. The
only change is that your body has by then learned to defend against the
virus - without the risks of having to catch it to do so.

This is how the Covid-19 vaccine works.

Separately, he then goes on to talk about a life-limiting condition that
means that faulty DNA does not produce mRNA that is required for the
body to produce proteins to help it survive stress. Again mRNA is
injected, but this time as a medication. While the mRNA is in the body,
it acts as a replacement for the mRNA that the body is not producing,
allowing the immune system to function normally. The DNA is not changed,
the fault remains, and injections must be repeated to keep replacing the
mRNA that has been used up.

In neither case is the DNA modified in any way.

Of course *diseases* all modify DNA, either by killing the host or by
generating an inheritable immunity, otherwise we wouldn't have survived...

.... its all vaguely reminiscent of the 'dihydrogen oxide' scare...

The function of a vaccine is precisely that - to modify at some level, DNA



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gospel of envy.

Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

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...
On 13/05/2021 13:22, Steve Walker wrote:
On 13/05/2021 11:38, Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 10:33 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 5/12/2021 3:43 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650
Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150
amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective"
claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the
field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA
approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating
the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine
side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune
system reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from
the body there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened
virus or, now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to
the virus that the immune system can learn the characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and
can cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.


People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's
clearly not safe.

Idiocy! Only 2 vaccines use the RNA (not gene therapy) technology, and
neither has had any clot problems.


https://www.infowars.com/posts/moder...-genetic-code/


I've just watched that and it says no such thing.

For the flu vaccine, it talks about injecting mRNA, which instructs cells
to produce a protein which looks like the virus. The immune system can
then learn to defend against it. Once the mRNA is used up, the cells will
no longer produce that protein and the protein is destroyed. The only
change is that your body has by then learned to defend against the
virus - without the risks of having to catch it to do so.

This is how the Covid-19 vaccine works.

Separately, he then goes on to talk about a life-limiting condition that
means that faulty DNA does not produce mRNA that is required for the body
to produce proteins to help it survive stress. Again mRNA is injected,
but this time as a medication. While the mRNA is in the body, it acts as
a replacement for the mRNA that the body is not producing, allowing the
immune system to function normally. The DNA is not changed, the fault
remains, and injections must be repeated to keep replacing the mRNA that
has been used up.

In neither case is the DNA modified in any way.

Of course *diseases* all modify DNA,

Nope.

either by killing the host

That doesnt MODIFY dna, just the host.

or by generating an inheritable immunity,

Vaccines dont do that. In fact when the vaccine
prevents you from getting infected it stops the
DNA being modified by the virus killing those
with the less effective DNA.

otherwise we wouldn't have survived...

... its all vaguely reminiscent of the 'dihydrogen oxide' scare...

The function of a vaccine is precisely that - to modify at some level, DNA

Nope. It actually stops that happened with those who get infected
when it stops them getting infected.

On Fri, 14 May 2021 05:12:23 +1000, Joey, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

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On 5/13/2021 3:38 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 10:33 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 5/12/2021 3:43 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?Â* Running off what looks like 2
18650 Li Ion batteries.Â* So since those are about 4V each, that's
150 amps from one battery.Â* I'm not so sure that's going to work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the
field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine
side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune
system reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from
the body there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened
virus or, now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to
the virus that the immune system can learn the characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and
can cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.


People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's
clearly not safe.

Idiocy! Only 2 vaccines use the RNA (not gene therapy) technology, and
neither has had any clot problems.


https://www.infowars.com/posts/moder...-genetic-code/


You really are THAT STUPID!

On Wed, 12 May 2021 06:43:18 -0400, Larry wrote:

And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so
apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either. I'm
pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us.

You clearly don't understand that the mask is for protecting others, as
even the vaccinated may be able to infect others.

Equally clearly, you are a Republican.

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On 5/13/21 7:21 AM, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 12 May 2021 06:43:18 -0400, Larry wrote:

And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so
apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either. I'm
pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us.

You clearly don't understand that the mask is for protecting others, as
even the vaccinated may be able to infect others.

Protect others? Seriously? Tell that to the millions of drunk/drugged/distracted drivers I'm forced to share the road with. Sheeeesh!


Equally clearly, you are a Republican.


And proud I'm not part of the democrat's 2020 election heist.

On Thu, 13 May 2021 09:11:04 -0400, Larry wrote:

On 5/13/21 7:21 AM, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 12 May 2021 06:43:18 -0400, Larry wrote:

And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so
apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either. I'm
pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us.

You clearly don't understand that the mask is for protecting others, as
even the vaccinated may be able to infect others.

Protect others? Seriously? Tell that to the millions of
drunk/drugged/distracted drivers I'm forced to share the road with.
Sheeeesh!

Nice bit of what-about-ery there.

Nice Republican answer.



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On 5/13/2021 6:11 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/13/21 7:21 AM, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 12 May 2021 06:43:18 -0400, Larry wrote:

And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so
apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either. I'm
pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us.

You clearly don't understand that the mask is for protecting others, as
even the vaccinated may be able to infect others.

Protect others? Seriously? Tell that to the millions of
drunk/drugged/distracted drivers I'm forced to share the road with.
Sheeeesh!


Equally clearly, you are a Republican.


And proud I'm not part of the democrat's 2020 election heist.

If you were, you would be non-existent.

On 12/05/2021 11:43, Larry wrote:
People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's
clearly not safe.
And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so
apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either.
I'm pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us.

Fauci. You're in the US then. (oh - cross posted to US and UK groups)

Half a million people have died from Covid in the USA out of 33 million
cases so far. That's 1 in 60.

If the other 90% of the US get it you can expect another 5 million
deaths - and without the vaccines you probably will.

And there's growing evidence that 10-20% of cases result in long term
health problems.

I'll take the possible trivial risks of the vaccine. Like, for example
the 30 cases of clots out of 10 million doses of the J&J/Janssen that
the CDC have reported. 1 in 300,000.

Andy