https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

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On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li
Ion batteries.* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from
one battery.* I'm not so sure that's going to work....

It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on.

Bill

On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463 What happened to the 800W EU limit? Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home? I wonder if they send people round to inspect which type you're operating?

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On 11/05/2021 15:17, williamwright wrote:
On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li
Ion batteries.* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from
one battery.* I'm not so sure that's going to work....

It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on.

The eBay listing says 1200W in more than one place. I can't see anywhere
that quotes 120W.

All nonsense of course.

On 11/05/2021 15:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey
wrote:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li
Ion batteries.* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from
one battery.* I'm not so sure that's going to work....

And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463* What happened to the 800W EU
limit?* Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably
use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home?* I wonder if they send
people round to inspect which type you're operating?

That is how the law works. Create a law with loopholes and the loopholes
are exploited.

The same happened with incandescent bulbs, the law allowed you to
purchase rugged bulbs. You still can. An LED won't last long as your
oven light.

In article , says...

On 11/05/2021 15:17, williamwright wrote:
On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li
Ion batteries.* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from
one battery.* I'm not so sure that's going to work....

It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on.

The eBay listing says 1200W in more than one place. I can't see anywhere
that quotes 120W.

All nonsense of course.



That 1200 watts must be calculated like some computer speakers. They
were rated around 100 watts. Powered by a 12 volt 1 amp wall cube and
inside the speakers were marked 8 ohms 2 watts.

On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:24:24 +0100, Fredxx
wrote:

On 11/05/2021 15:17, williamwright wrote:
On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li
Ion batteries.* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from
one battery.* I'm not so sure that's going to work....

It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on.

The eBay listing says 1200W in more than one place. I can't see anywhere
that quotes 120W.

All nonsense of course.
Those be Chinese "whats"?

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey
wrote:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li
Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from
one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463 What happened to the 800W EU
limit? Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably
use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home?

when it looks that ugly

yes

On 11/05/2021 17:17, tim... wrote:


"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey
wrote:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?Â* Running off what looks like 2 18650
Li Ion batteries.Â* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps
from one battery.Â* I'm not so sure that's going to work....

And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463Â* What happened to the 800W EU
limit?Â* Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would
conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home?

when it looks that ugly

yes



krauts simply cant do a 'Henry'


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On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (aka "Commander Kinsey",
"James Wilkinson", "Steven ******","Bruce Farquar", "Fred Johnson, etc.),
the pathological resident idiot and attention whore of all the uk ngs,
blathered again:

FLUSH the subnormal sociopathic trolling attention whore's latest
attention-baiting sick bull**** unread again

--
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trolling:
"He is a well known attention seeking troll and every reply you
make feeds him.
Starts many threads most of which die quick as on the UK groups anyone
with sense Kill filed him ages ago which is why he now cross posts to
the US groups for a new audience.
This thread was unusual in that it derived and continued without him
to a large extent and his silly questioning is an attempt to get
noticed again."
MID:

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"You're an annoying troll and I'm done with you and your
stupidity."
MID:

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AndyW addressing Birdbrain:
"Troll or idiot?...
You have been presented with a viewpoint with information, reasoning,
historical cases, citations and references to back it up and wilfully
ignore all going back to your idea which has no supporting information."
MID:

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MID:

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"I've never seen such misplaced pride in being a ****ing moronic motorist."
MID:

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"I seen and heard many people but you are on top of list being first class
ass hole jerk. ...You fit under unconditional Idiot and should be put in
mental institution.
MID:

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"Ok. I'm persuaded . You are an idiot."
MID:

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"Frigging Idiot. Get the hell out of my thread."
MID:

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Kerr Mudd-John about Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey LOL):
"It's like arguing with a demented frog."
MID:

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Mr Pounder Esquire about Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"the **** poor delivery boy with no hot running water, 11 cats and
several parrots living in his hovel."
MID:

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Rob Morley about Birdbrain:
"He's a perennial idiot"
MID: 20170519215057.56a1f1d4@Mars

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"I apologize for thinking you were a jerk. You're just someone with an IQ
lower than your age, and I accept that as a reason for your comments."
MID: l-september.org

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Sam Plusnet about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"He's just desperate to be noticed. Any attention will do, no matter how
negative it may be."
MID:

--
asking Birdbrain:
"What, were you dropped on your head as a child?"
MID:

--
Christie addressing endlessly driveling Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander
Kinsey" LOL):
"What are you resurrecting that old post of mine for? It's from last
month some time. You're like a dog who's just dug up an old bone they
hid in the garden until they were ready to have another go at it."
MID:

--
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"You are a well known fool, a tosser, a pillock, a stupid unemployable
sponging failure who will always live alone and will die alone. You will not
be missed."
MID:

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Richard to pathetic ****** Hucker:
"You haven't bred?
Only useful thing you've done in your pathetic existence."
MID:

--
about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
""not the sharpest knife in the drawer"'s parents sure made a serious
mistake having him born alive -- A total waste of oxygen, food, space,
and bandwidth."
MID:

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"You will always be a lonely sociopath living in a ******** with no hot
running water with loads of stinking cats and a few parrots."
MID:

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francis about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"He seems to have a reputation as someone of limited intelligence"
MID:

--
Peter Moylan about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL):
"If people like JWS didn't exist, we would have to find some other way to
explain the concept of "invincible ignorance"."
MID:

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"Typical narcissist troll, thinks his **** is so grand he has the right to
try to force it on everyone."FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest
troll**** unread
MID:

On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:17:34 +0100, williamwright, another mentally
challenged troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:


It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on.

Put your glasses on, senile idiot, and finally realize that you are feeding
a PROVEN clinically insane trolling attention whore! tsk

On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:27:39 +0100, Fredxx, the notorious, troll-feeding,
senile smartass, blathered again:


That is how the law works. Create a law with loopholes and the loopholes
are exploited.

That is how feeding a troll works. Let the troll set out the dumbest baits
and at least one of you troll-feeding, demented, senile idiots will come
running along to take it gratefully!

On Tue, 11 May 2021 17:17:17 +0100, dim..., another demented troll-feeding
senile idiot, babbled:



when it looks that ugly

yes

It can't be as ugly as you troll-feeding senile assholes are dumb!

On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:27:39 +0100, Fredxx wrote:

On 11/05/2021 15:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey
wrote:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li
Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from
one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463 What happened to the 800W EU
limit? Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably
use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home? I wonder if they send
people round to inspect which type you're operating?

That is how the law works. Create a law with loopholes and the loopholes
are exploited.

Why are lawmakers so thick?

The same happened with incandescent bulbs, the law allowed you to
purchase rugged bulbs. You still can. An LED won't last long as your
oven light.

Be a bit of a nuisance lighting your room with oven bulbs.

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On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:43:46 +0100, Clare Snyder wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:24:24 +0100, Fredxx
wrote:

On 11/05/2021 15:17, williamwright wrote:
On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li
Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from
one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on.

The eBay listing says 1200W in more than one place. I can't see anywhere
that quotes 120W.

All nonsense of course.
Those be Chinese "whats"?

Indeed. I have (had, they gave up fairly quick) some Li Ion batteries quoting a mAh 2.5x higher than Sony or Panasonic have ever achieved. They actually contained an eighth of what they claimed. They know they're lying, since if you ask them why they don't last as long as they should, you get a very fast 100% refund with no need to prove or return the "faulty" ones.

I also bought a 2.5" USB hard disk, claiming to be a brand new 1TB drive. SMART data gave me the make and model of the disk inside, showing it was an 8 year old drive which had had many hours of service, and had lots of faults. I opened it and confirmed, they'd even left the label on it! The electronics in the USB to SATA adapter inside it had been fiddled to ignore the bad sectors and claim a higher capacity than it really was. When I complained, they sent me another one the same! Their Ebay account is no longer functional.

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On Tue, 11 May 2021 17:36:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 11/05/2021 17:17, tim... wrote:


"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey
wrote:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650
Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps
from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463 What happened to the 800W EU
limit? Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would
conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home?

when it looks that ugly

yes



krauts simply cant do a 'Henry'

A vacuum is a tool, not an ornament. You put it in the cupboard when you've finished, you don't have to look at it all day.

And actually I prefer the industrial look. I like the Gumpert car for example.

And you can get those stupidly small capacity Henrys over the 800W "limit".

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On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

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On 05/11/2021 12:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 17:36:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 11/05/2021 17:17, tim... wrote:


"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey
wrote:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650
Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps
from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463 What happened to the 800W EU
limit? Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would
conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home?

when it looks that ugly

yes



krauts simply cant do a 'Henry'

A vacuum is a tool, not an ornament. You put it in the cupboard when
you've finished, you don't have to look at it all day.

And actually I prefer the industrial look. I like the Gumpert car for
example.

They are not industrial. This is:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/22/cars/...uck/index.html

On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li
Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from
one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

That is probably the instantaneous power, lasting 5 secs. My little power
pack will start a car engine.

Roger Blake wrote

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and
effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines
that have only been in the field for several months

For getting on for a year now actually.

and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

Another bare faced lie.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects.

But with this virus killing so many and producing
very serious medical problems with even more,
it makes no sense to be testing the vaccines for
years before using them on the general public.
Particularly with the vaccines that use very
traditional vaccine technology.

Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines
are "safe" are liars, by definition.

They actually say they are a lot safer than getting infected by the virus,
stupid.

On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

well its unlikely we know the long term side effects of *not* taking
them...or the long term side effects of all the viruses we caught as
children.

They are safe in the sense that anything is safe. If you expect
absolutes, try religion



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and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them.
Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, ones
agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of
ones suitability to be taken seriously.€�

Paul Krugman

After serious thinking Roger Blake wrote :
The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

I'll/have risked it, the alternative risk doesn't bare thinking about.

Hmm, if it was true Tesla would be on your doorstep offering to buy your
technology by now.
Brian

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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion
batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one
battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

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How long for though?
I remember a friend getting a hand held Dysan, which said 20 minutes , long
enough for a clean, well she never got above ten, maybe she just had thicker
dust?
Brian

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"williamwright" wrote in message
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On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion
batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one
battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on.

Bill

On Tue, 11 May 2021 19:29:33 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:



They are not industrial. This is:

HE is clinically insane. And I'm starting to believe you are too, you
abnormal "male" senile gossip! BG

This discussion reminded me of a model aircraft when I was young which
claimed the most amazing development in propulsion and battery technology
which could keep the plane airborne for 20 minutes, just add water.
So it basically had what looked like two Tea bag sized batteries with wires
at the top corners. the plane was made of flimsy polystyrene foam and the
motored seemed to be some kind of brushless design with a big slow propeller
on the front. You put your water in shook them and then launched it, Note
you needed to do this on a totally still day or it would just blow away. It
would mostly beetle about for maybe five minutes using the batteries then
the propeller stopped and it glided to the ground.

Each time you used the batteries it went for less time.

Still it was the 1960s, and I guess the thought was there....
Brian

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"jon" wrote in message ...
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li
Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from
one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

That is probably the instantaneous power, lasting 5 secs. My little power
pack will start a car engine.

On Wed, 12 May 2021 15:01:08 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

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On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine side-effects
will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system reactions to
it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body there are no
more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or, now, an
artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus that the
immune system can learn the characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and can
cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.

It happens that Brian Gaff (Sofa) formulated :
So it basically had what looked like two Tea bag sized batteries with wires
at the top corners. the plane was made of flimsy polystyrene foam and the
motored seemed to be some kind of brushless design with a big slow propeller
on the front.

I don't recall brushless being possible in the 1960's.

On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?Â* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries.Â* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery.Â* I'm not so sure that's going to
work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from
the body there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or, now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus that the immune system can learn the
characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and can cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.


People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's clearly not safe.
And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either.
I'm pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us.

On 12/05/2021 10:15, Steve Walker wrote:
A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine side-effects
will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system reactions to
it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body there are no
more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or, now, an
artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus that the
immune system can learn the characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and can
cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.

But you are not an ArtsStudent„¢.
To an ArtsStudent„¢, stuff that goes in your arm is all the same.


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On 12/05/2021 10:58, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
It happens that Brian Gaff (Sofa) formulated :
So it basically had what looked like two Tea bag sized batteries with
wires at the top corners. the plane was made of flimsy polystyrene
foam and the motored seemed to be some kind of brushless design with a
big slow propeller on the front.

I don't recall brushless being possible in the 1960's.

Brushless controllers depend on microelectronics that didn't exist then.
It would have been a can brushed motor and a gear box probably


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This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and
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Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine
side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system
reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body
there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or,
now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus
that the immune system can learn the characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and
can cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.


People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's
clearly not safe.
And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so
apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either.
I'm pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us.

At the beginning, there were around 110 or more projects to
produce a virus. The methodology varies, but there might
have been a half dozen different forms. One of our national
news sites, had a long web page, tracking the various
approaches. The reason so many projects took off, was
to try to find something effective. When you read the article
on RNA_Vaccine, you can see based on its research history,
what a long shot it was.

For a summary of the successful and still-born efforts,
see this article.

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/coro...accinetracker/

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The AZ one seems to have a higher risk of clotting, than occurs
naturally in humans. There are enough clotting problems in humans,
before COVID came along, we have a national lab set up here which
does nothing but "genetic tests for clotting conditions". If you're
prone to such conditions, that lab can give a diagnosis so the
doctor knows you've got a problem that needs careful attention.
You can have a genetic predisposition to abnormal clotting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford...VID-19_vaccine

using as a vector the modified chimpanzee adenovirus ChAdOx1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adenoviridae

adenoviral serotypes ... (known as the common cold)

The adenovirus is also modified so it cannot reproduce.
The only exception is some question about the Russian Sputnik,
where there are two adenoviruses, and one of them may not
have been quiesced properly. You might have symptoms of a
cold in that case, The Brazilians rejected Sputnik recently.
The Russians don't agree with their analysis. I don't know
if any other country or body is interested in repeating
the Brazilian analysis or not, as verification. This
represents a violation of protocol, rather than a clear
and present danger. You're not supposed to make vaccines
that way.

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The Pfizer is a (messenger) RNA one. That's different than DNA, which
is what makes your cells work. Work on the concept started in 1990
(that's to give time to collect all the three-eyed fish as a byproduct).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine#Mechanism

"mRNA vaccines do not affect or reprogram DNA inside the cell.
The synthetic mRNA fragment is a copy of the specific part
of the viral RNA that carries the instructions to build
the antigen of the virus (a protein spike, in the case of
the main coronavirus mRNA vaccines), and is not related
to human DNA. This misconception was circulated as the
COVID-19 mRNA vaccines came to public prominence, and
is a debunked conspiracy theory."

At least one of the two mRNA ones, there were patients with
clotting, but the rate was the same as the rate for
the general population who had not received a vaccine.
Whereas the AZ one, the rate of clot for that is higher
than background. And it looks like the Germans were
likely right, in their estimate of the clot rate for AZ.

Paul

On 12/05/2021 14:06, Paul wrote:
Whereas the AZ one, the rate of clot for that is higher
than background. And it looks like the Germans were
likely right, in their estimate of the clot rate for AZ.

I am not sure that was in the end true..


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On 12/05/2021 11:43, Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?Â* Running off what looks like 2 18650
Li Ion batteries.Â* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps
from one battery.Â* I'm not so sure that's going to work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine
side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system
reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body
there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or,
now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus
that the immune system can learn the characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and
can cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.


People are clotting/dying

At a rate barely above what happens in unvaccinated people; far lower
than in people who catch Covid-19; and far lower than in women taking
the pill.

from the experimental gene therapy

There is no gene therapy, that is simply a term used by anti-vaxxers to
spread fear. Gene therapy modifies your DNA and the vaccines do not.

The Pfizer vaccine contains a small section of mRNA (Messenger RNA)
which cells use for communication. Normally these are naturally released
around the body to instruct cells to produce particular proteins and are
used up and eliminated. In this case the mRNA is introduced as a
vaccine. For the short time that it is in the body, it persuades cells
to make a protein with the same spikes as the virus, so that the immune
system can learn to recognise it.

The Astra-Zeneca vaccine contains an altered monkey virus. Humans are
incapable of catching this monkey virus, but the alteration contains the
same spikes as the virus, so that the immune system can learn to
recognise Covid-19.

so it's clearly not safe.

Nothing is safe. You can die from drinking too much water!

The levels of risk are small; smaller than the risks of catching the
virus; and a lot smaller than everyday risks that we are happy to take -
driving or cycling for instance.

And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so
apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either.

No vaccine is 100% effective - yet over many decades, they have
protected billions of people and practically wiped out some deadly
illnesses.

On 5/12/2021 1:01 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
Roger Blake wrote

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and
effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines
that have only been in the field for several months

For getting on for a year now actually.

and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

Another bare faced lie.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects.

But with this virus killing so many and producing
very serious medical problems with even more,
it makes no sense to be testing the vaccines for
years before using them on the general public.
Particularly with the vaccines that use very
traditional vaccine technology.

Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines
are "safe" are liars, by definition.

They actually say they are a lot safer than getting infected by the
virus, stupid.

Yup, a democrat administration would have waited months and months and
many more deaths to approve the vaccines.

On 5/12/2021 6:43 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?Â* Running off what looks like 2 18650
Li Ion batteries.Â* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps
from one battery.Â* I'm not so sure that's going to work....

The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the
Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition.

A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine
side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system
reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body
there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or,
now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus
that the immune system can learn the characteristics

Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and
can cause cumulative damage.

I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication.


People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's
clearly not safe.
And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so
apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either.
I'm pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us.

Google up deaths from blood clots and you will see how common the
problem is. Almost did me in 20 years ago and surgeon said his father
had died from a clot.

On Wed, 12 May 2021 02:29:33 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 05/11/2021 12:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 17:36:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 11/05/2021 17:17, tim... wrote:


"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey
wrote:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780

1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650
Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps
from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work....

And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463 What happened to the 800W EU
limit? Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would
conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home?

when it looks that ugly

yes



krauts simply cant do a 'Henry'

A vacuum is a tool, not an ornament. You put it in the cupboard when
you've finished, you don't have to look at it all day.

And actually I prefer the industrial look. I like the Gumpert car for
example.

They are not industrial. This is:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/22/cars/...uck/index.html

Yeah I saw that, it reminds me of a shape I drew in primary school. Musk needs to invest in a wind tunnel. Those sharp corners are not aerodynamic.

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All product specs are lies. The CPU cooler in this computer claims it will cool a 300W CPU. Mine gives off only 140W, and that gives a temperature rise of 55C, according to both my readings and those of 3 review sites. 300W would cause a temperature difference of 120C, so to keep it below the usual maximum of 100C, you'd need a room temperature of -20.

Even the 140W is odd, this CPU is rated at 105W. Maybe they don't account for you using every single part of it simultaneously.


On Wed, 12 May 2021 10:00:08 +0100, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

How long for though?
I remember a friend getting a hand held Dysan, which said 20 minutes , long
enough for a clean, well she never got above ten, maybe she just had thicker
dust?
Brian



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On Wed, 12 May 2021 09:19:22 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

After serious thinking Roger Blake wrote :
The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim
being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field
for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval.

I'll/have risked it, the alternative risk doesn't bare thinking about.

The alternative risk is much smaller. You probably won't catch coronavirus, but if you take the vaccine, you have a 100% chance of having it in you. If it turns out to be deadly, I'm going to have a whale of a time in a less cluttered world.

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