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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... -- Sent from my iPhone, this spam courtesy of Apple incorporated. |
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On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries.* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery.* I'm not so sure that's going to work.... It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on. Bill |
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On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463 What happened to the 800W EU limit? Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home? I wonder if they send people round to inspect which type you're operating? -- Sent from my iPhone, this spam courtesy of Apple incorporated. |
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On 11/05/2021 15:17, williamwright wrote:
On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries.* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery.* I'm not so sure that's going to work.... It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on. The eBay listing says 1200W in more than one place. I can't see anywhere that quotes 120W. All nonsense of course. |
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On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 15:17:39 UTC+1, wrote:
On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on. Bill was hoping to laugh/take the **** at CK, but he is right that's what the advert says. "Wet & Dry Vacuum Cleaner Car Cordless Handheld Rechargeable Home Portable 1200W" |
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On 11/05/2021 15:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries.* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery.* I'm not so sure that's going to work.... And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463* What happened to the 800W EU limit?* Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home?* I wonder if they send people round to inspect which type you're operating? That is how the law works. Create a law with loopholes and the loopholes are exploited. The same happened with incandescent bulbs, the law allowed you to purchase rugged bulbs. You still can. An LED won't last long as your oven light. |
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message ... On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463 What happened to the 800W EU limit? Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home? when it looks that ugly yes |
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On 11/05/2021 17:17, tim... wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message ... On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries.* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery.* I'm not so sure that's going to work.... And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463* What happened to the 800W EU limit?* Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home? when it looks that ugly yes krauts simply cant do a 'Henry' -- In todays liberal progressive conflict-free education system, everyone gets full Marx. |
CAUTION!!! Birdbrain, the Abnormal Pathological Attention Whore, Strikes, AGAIN!
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (aka "Commander Kinsey",
"James Wilkinson", "Steven ******","Bruce Farquar", "Fred Johnson, etc.), the pathological resident idiot and attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again: FLUSH the subnormal sociopathic trolling attention whore's latest attention-baiting sick bull**** unread again -- about Birdbrain Macaw's (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL) trolling: "He is a well known attention seeking troll and every reply you make feeds him. Starts many threads most of which die quick as on the UK groups anyone with sense Kill filed him ages ago which is why he now cross posts to the US groups for a new audience. This thread was unusual in that it derived and continued without him to a large extent and his silly questioning is an attempt to get noticed again." MID: -- ItsJoanNotJoann addressing Birdbrain Macaw's (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL): "You're an annoying troll and I'm done with you and your stupidity." MID: -- AndyW addressing Birdbrain: "Troll or idiot?... You have been presented with a viewpoint with information, reasoning, historical cases, citations and references to back it up and wilfully ignore all going back to your idea which has no supporting information." MID: -- Phil Lee adressing Birdbrain Macaw: "You are too stupid to be wasting oxygen." MID: -- Phil Lee describing Birdbrain Macaw: "I've never seen such misplaced pride in being a ****ing moronic motorist." MID: -- Tony944 addressing Birdbrain Macaw: "I seen and heard many people but you are on top of list being first class ass hole jerk. ...You fit under unconditional Idiot and should be put in mental institution. MID: -- Pelican to Birdbrain Macaw: "Ok. I'm persuaded . You are an idiot." MID: -- DerbyDad03 addressing Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL): "Frigging Idiot. Get the hell out of my thread." MID: -- Kerr Mudd-John about Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey LOL): "It's like arguing with a demented frog." MID: -- Mr Pounder Esquire about Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL): "the **** poor delivery boy with no hot running water, 11 cats and several parrots living in his hovel." MID: -- Rob Morley about Birdbrain: "He's a perennial idiot" MID: 20170519215057.56a1f1d4@Mars -- JoeyDee to Birdbrain "I apologize for thinking you were a jerk. You're just someone with an IQ lower than your age, and I accept that as a reason for your comments." MID: l-september.org -- Sam Plusnet about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL): "He's just desperate to be noticed. Any attention will do, no matter how negative it may be." MID: -- asking Birdbrain: "What, were you dropped on your head as a child?" MID: -- Christie addressing endlessly driveling Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL): "What are you resurrecting that old post of mine for? It's from last month some time. You're like a dog who's just dug up an old bone they hid in the garden until they were ready to have another go at it." MID: -- Mr Pounder's fitting description of Birdbrain Macaw: "You are a well known fool, a tosser, a pillock, a stupid unemployable sponging failure who will always live alone and will die alone. You will not be missed." MID: -- Richard to pathetic ****** Hucker: "You haven't bred? Only useful thing you've done in your pathetic existence." MID: -- about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL): ""not the sharpest knife in the drawer"'s parents sure made a serious mistake having him born alive -- A total waste of oxygen, food, space, and bandwidth." MID: -- Mr Pounder exposing sociopathic Birdbrain: "You will always be a lonely sociopath living in a ******** with no hot running water with loads of stinking cats and a few parrots." MID: -- francis about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL): "He seems to have a reputation as someone of limited intelligence" MID: -- Peter Moylan about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL): "If people like JWS didn't exist, we would have to find some other way to explain the concept of "invincible ignorance"." MID: -- Lewis about nym-shifting Birdbrain: "Typical narcissist troll, thinks his **** is so grand he has the right to try to force it on everyone."FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread MID: |
Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:17:34 +0100, williamwright, another mentally
challenged troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered: It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on. Put your glasses on, senile idiot, and finally realize that you are feeding a PROVEN clinically insane trolling attention whore! tsk |
Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:27:39 +0100, Fredxx, the notorious, troll-feeding,
senile smartass, blathered again: That is how the law works. Create a law with loopholes and the loopholes are exploited. That is how feeding a troll works. Let the troll set out the dumbest baits and at least one of you troll-feeding, demented, senile idiots will come running along to take it gratefully! |
Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLES Alert!
On Tue, 11 May 2021 17:17:17 +0100, dim..., another demented troll-feeding
senile idiot, babbled: when it looks that ugly yes It can't be as ugly as you troll-feeding senile assholes are dumb! |
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On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:27:39 +0100, Fredxx wrote:
On 11/05/2021 15:21, Commander Kinsey wrote: On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463 What happened to the 800W EU limit? Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home? I wonder if they send people round to inspect which type you're operating? That is how the law works. Create a law with loopholes and the loopholes are exploited. Why are lawmakers so thick? The same happened with incandescent bulbs, the law allowed you to purchase rugged bulbs. You still can. An LED won't last long as your oven light. Be a bit of a nuisance lighting your room with oven bulbs. -- Sent from my iPhone, this spam courtesy of Apple incorporated. |
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On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:43:46 +0100, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:24:24 +0100, Fredxx wrote: On 11/05/2021 15:17, williamwright wrote: On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on. The eBay listing says 1200W in more than one place. I can't see anywhere that quotes 120W. All nonsense of course. Those be Chinese "whats"? Indeed. I have (had, they gave up fairly quick) some Li Ion batteries quoting a mAh 2.5x higher than Sony or Panasonic have ever achieved. They actually contained an eighth of what they claimed. They know they're lying, since if you ask them why they don't last as long as they should, you get a very fast 100% refund with no need to prove or return the "faulty" ones. I also bought a 2.5" USB hard disk, claiming to be a brand new 1TB drive. SMART data gave me the make and model of the disk inside, showing it was an 8 year old drive which had had many hours of service, and had lots of faults. I opened it and confirmed, they'd even left the label on it! The electronics in the USB to SATA adapter inside it had been fiddled to ignore the bad sectors and claim a higher capacity than it really was. When I complained, they sent me another one the same! Their Ebay account is no longer functional. -- Sent from my iPhone, this spam courtesy of Apple incorporated. |
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On Tue, 11 May 2021 17:36:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 11/05/2021 17:17, tim... wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message ... On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463 What happened to the 800W EU limit? Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home? when it looks that ugly yes krauts simply cant do a 'Henry' A vacuum is a tool, not an ornament. You put it in the cupboard when you've finished, you don't have to look at it all day. And actually I prefer the industrial look. I like the Gumpert car for example. And you can get those stupidly small capacity Henrys over the 800W "limit". -- Sent from my iPhone, this spam courtesy of Apple incorporated. |
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On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) 18 Reasons I won't be vaccinated -- https://tinyurl.com/ebty2dx3 Covid vaccines: experimental biology -- https://tinyurl.com/57mncfm5 The fraud of "Climate Change" -- https://RealClimateScience.com Don't talk to cops! -- https://DontTalkToCops.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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On 05/11/2021 12:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 17:36:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 11/05/2021 17:17, tim... wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message ... On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463 What happened to the 800W EU limit? Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home? when it looks that ugly yes krauts simply cant do a 'Henry' A vacuum is a tool, not an ornament. You put it in the cupboard when you've finished, you don't have to look at it all day. And actually I prefer the industrial look. I like the Gumpert car for example. They are not industrial. This is: https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/22/cars/...uck/index.html |
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On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... That is probably the instantaneous power, lasting 5 secs. My little power pack will start a car engine. |
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Roger Blake wrote
The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months For getting on for a year now actually. and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. Another bare faced lie. It takes years to determine long-term side effects. But with this virus killing so many and producing very serious medical problems with even more, it makes no sense to be testing the vaccines for years before using them on the general public. Particularly with the vaccines that use very traditional vaccine technology. Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition. They actually say they are a lot safer than getting infected by the virus, stupid. |
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On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote: 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition. well its unlikely we know the long term side effects of *not* taking them...or the long term side effects of all the viruses we caught as children. They are safe in the sense that anything is safe. If you expect absolutes, try religion -- People believe certain stories because everyone important tells them, and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them. Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, ones agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of ones suitability to be taken seriously. Paul Krugman |
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After serious thinking Roger Blake wrote :
The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. I'll/have risked it, the alternative risk doesn't bare thinking about. |
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Hmm, if it was true Tesla would be on your doorstep offering to buy your
technology by now. Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message ... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... -- Sent from my iPhone, this spam courtesy of Apple incorporated. |
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How long for though?
I remember a friend getting a hand held Dysan, which said 20 minutes , long enough for a clean, well she never got above ten, maybe she just had thicker dust? Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "williamwright" wrote in message ... On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on. Bill |
lowbrowwoman, Birdbrain's Eternal Senile Whore!
On Tue, 11 May 2021 19:29:33 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again: They are not industrial. This is: HE is clinically insane. And I'm starting to believe you are too, you abnormal "male" senile gossip! BG |
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This discussion reminded me of a model aircraft when I was young which
claimed the most amazing development in propulsion and battery technology which could keep the plane airborne for 20 minutes, just add water. So it basically had what looked like two Tea bag sized batteries with wires at the top corners. the plane was made of flimsy polystyrene foam and the motored seemed to be some kind of brushless design with a big slow propeller on the front. You put your water in shook them and then launched it, Note you needed to do this on a totally still day or it would just blow away. It would mostly beetle about for maybe five minutes using the batteries then the propeller stopped and it glided to the ground. Each time you used the batteries it went for less time. Still it was the 1960s, and I guess the thought was there.... Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "jon" wrote in message ... On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... That is probably the instantaneous power, lasting 5 secs. My little power pack will start a car engine. |
More Heavy Trolling by the Senile Octogenarian Nym-Shifting Ozzie Cretin!
On Wed, 12 May 2021 15:01:08 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- Marland answering senile Rodent's statement, "I don't leak": "Thats because so much **** and ****e emanates from your gob that there is nothing left to exit normally, your arsehole has clammed shut through disuse and the end of prick is only clear because you are such a ******." Message-ID: |
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On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote: 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition. A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or, now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus that the immune system can learn the characteristics Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and can cause cumulative damage. I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication. |
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It happens that Brian Gaff (Sofa) formulated :
So it basically had what looked like two Tea bag sized batteries with wires at the top corners. the plane was made of flimsy polystyrene foam and the motored seemed to be some kind of brushless design with a big slow propeller on the front. I don't recall brushless being possible in the 1960's. |
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In article ,
Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote: 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition. Don't ever take any medicine, then. As even when approved will have serious side effects with some. Just carry on hoping you won't be one of those killed or maimed by Covid. -- *By the time a man is wise enough to watch his step, he's too old to go anywhere. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In article ,
jon wrote: On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... That is probably the instantaneous power, lasting 5 secs. My little power pack will start a car engine. Does your cordless vacuum use a car starter motor then? Might be a bit heavy to use. -- *When I'm not in my right mind, my left mind gets pretty crowded * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
... In article , Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote: 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition. Don't ever take any medicine, then. As even when approved will have serious side effects with some. Just carry on hoping you won't be one of those killed or maimed by Covid. The developers of the Covid vaccines are in an invidious position: either they shorten the product-testing process to get the vaccine out as quickly as possible (with extra risks or side effects) or else they apply the full Committee on Safety of Medicines clinical trials process and are criticised for taking too long. Nothing is "100% safe". There are always risks. As always in life, you need to be aware of the risk:benefit ratio and make a decision accordingly. And when any side effects are reported, they should be set in the context of the equivalent risks of a) doing nothing, and b) taking other unrelated products. I believe that the risk of blood clots with one of the vaccines is significantly less than that for smoking, taking oral contraception and other normal lifestyle activities. |
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On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote: 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries.* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery.* I'm not so sure that's going to work.... The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition. A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or, now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus that the immune system can learn the characteristics Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and can cause cumulative damage. I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication. People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's clearly not safe. And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either. I'm pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us. |
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On 12/05/2021 10:15, Steve Walker wrote:
A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or, now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus that the immune system can learn the characteristics Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and can cause cumulative damage. I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication. But you are not an ArtsStudent. To an ArtsStudent, stuff that goes in your arm is all the same. -- "I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently. This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and all women" |
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On 12/05/2021 10:58, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
It happens that Brian Gaff (Sofa) formulated : So it basically had what looked like two Tea bag sized batteries with wires at the top corners. the plane was made of flimsy polystyrene foam and the motored seemed to be some kind of brushless design with a big slow propeller on the front. I don't recall brushless being possible in the 1960's. Brushless controllers depend on microelectronics that didn't exist then. It would have been a can brushed motor and a gear box probably -- "I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently. This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and all women" |
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On 12/05/2021 12:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 12/05/2021 10:58, Harry Bloomfield wrote: It happens that Brian Gaff (Sofa) formulated : So it basically had what looked like two Tea bag sized batteries with wires at the top corners. the plane was made of flimsy polystyrene foam and the motored seemed to be some kind of brushless design with a big slow propeller on the front. I don't recall brushless being possible in the 1960's. Brushless controllers depend on microelectronics that didn't exist then. It would have been a can brushed motor and a gear box probably Someone in the knowledge of electric motors would know that the brushless motor was invented in 1962 because of solid state tech. Brushless commutation doesn't have to depend exclusively on microelectronics. https://www.kdedirect.com/blogs/news...brushed-motors |
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Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote: A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or, now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus that the immune system can learn the characteristics Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and can cause cumulative damage. I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication. People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's clearly not safe. And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either. I'm pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us. At the beginning, there were around 110 or more projects to produce a virus. The methodology varies, but there might have been a half dozen different forms. One of our national news sites, had a long web page, tracking the various approaches. The reason so many projects took off, was to try to find something effective. When you read the article on RNA_Vaccine, you can see based on its research history, what a long shot it was. For a summary of the successful and still-born efforts, see this article. https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/coro...accinetracker/ ******* The AZ one seems to have a higher risk of clotting, than occurs naturally in humans. There are enough clotting problems in humans, before COVID came along, we have a national lab set up here which does nothing but "genetic tests for clotting conditions". If you're prone to such conditions, that lab can give a diagnosis so the doctor knows you've got a problem that needs careful attention. You can have a genetic predisposition to abnormal clotting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford...VID-19_vaccine using as a vector the modified chimpanzee adenovirus ChAdOx1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adenoviridae adenoviral serotypes ... (known as the common cold) The adenovirus is also modified so it cannot reproduce. The only exception is some question about the Russian Sputnik, where there are two adenoviruses, and one of them may not have been quiesced properly. You might have symptoms of a cold in that case, The Brazilians rejected Sputnik recently. The Russians don't agree with their analysis. I don't know if any other country or body is interested in repeating the Brazilian analysis or not, as verification. This represents a violation of protocol, rather than a clear and present danger. You're not supposed to make vaccines that way. ******* The Pfizer is a (messenger) RNA one. That's different than DNA, which is what makes your cells work. Work on the concept started in 1990 (that's to give time to collect all the three-eyed fish as a byproduct). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine#Mechanism "mRNA vaccines do not affect or reprogram DNA inside the cell. The synthetic mRNA fragment is a copy of the specific part of the viral RNA that carries the instructions to build the antigen of the virus (a protein spike, in the case of the main coronavirus mRNA vaccines), and is not related to human DNA. This misconception was circulated as the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines came to public prominence, and is a debunked conspiracy theory." At least one of the two mRNA ones, there were patients with clotting, but the rate was the same as the rate for the general population who had not received a vaccine. Whereas the AZ one, the rate of clot for that is higher than background. And it looks like the Germans were likely right, in their estimate of the clot rate for AZ. Paul |
Most absurd lie on a product
On 12/05/2021 14:06, Paul wrote:
Whereas the AZ one, the rate of clot for that is higher than background. And it looks like the Germans were likely right, in their estimate of the clot rate for AZ. I am not sure that was in the end true.. -- Those who want slavery should have the grace to name it by its proper name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating or condoning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead. They must face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not. Ayn Rand. |
Most absurd lie on a product
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Larry wrote: People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's clearly not safe. And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either. I'm pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us. I doubt many in the UK care much what Trump lovers think. -- *If work is so terrific, how come they have to pay you to do it? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Most absurd lie on a product
On 12/05/2021 11:43, Larry wrote:
On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote: On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote: 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries.* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery.* I'm not so sure that's going to work.... The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition. A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or, now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus that the immune system can learn the characteristics Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and can cause cumulative damage. I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication. People are clotting/dying At a rate barely above what happens in unvaccinated people; far lower than in people who catch Covid-19; and far lower than in women taking the pill. from the experimental gene therapy There is no gene therapy, that is simply a term used by anti-vaxxers to spread fear. Gene therapy modifies your DNA and the vaccines do not. The Pfizer vaccine contains a small section of mRNA (Messenger RNA) which cells use for communication. Normally these are naturally released around the body to instruct cells to produce particular proteins and are used up and eliminated. In this case the mRNA is introduced as a vaccine. For the short time that it is in the body, it persuades cells to make a protein with the same spikes as the virus, so that the immune system can learn to recognise it. The Astra-Zeneca vaccine contains an altered monkey virus. Humans are incapable of catching this monkey virus, but the alteration contains the same spikes as the virus, so that the immune system can learn to recognise Covid-19. so it's clearly not safe. Nothing is safe. You can die from drinking too much water! The levels of risk are small; smaller than the risks of catching the virus; and a lot smaller than everyday risks that we are happy to take - driving or cycling for instance. And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either. No vaccine is 100% effective - yet over many decades, they have protected billions of people and practically wiped out some deadly illnesses. |
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