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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... -- Sent from my iPhone, this spam courtesy of Apple incorporated. |
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On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries.* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery.* I'm not so sure that's going to work.... It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on. Bill |
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On 11/05/2021 15:17, williamwright wrote:
On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries.* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery.* I'm not so sure that's going to work.... It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on. The eBay listing says 1200W in more than one place. I can't see anywhere that quotes 120W. All nonsense of course. |
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On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 15:17:39 UTC+1, wrote:
On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on. Bill was hoping to laugh/take the **** at CK, but he is right that's what the advert says. "Wet & Dry Vacuum Cleaner Car Cordless Handheld Rechargeable Home Portable 1200W" |
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Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:17:34 +0100, williamwright, another mentally
challenged troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered: It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on. Put your glasses on, senile idiot, and finally realize that you are feeding a PROVEN clinically insane trolling attention whore! tsk |
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How long for though?
I remember a friend getting a hand held Dysan, which said 20 minutes , long enough for a clean, well she never got above ten, maybe she just had thicker dust? Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "williamwright" wrote in message ... On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on. Bill |
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All product specs are lies. The CPU cooler in this computer claims it will cool a 300W CPU. Mine gives off only 140W, and that gives a temperature rise of 55C, according to both my readings and those of 3 review sites. 300W would cause a temperature difference of 120C, so to keep it below the usual maximum of 100C, you'd need a room temperature of -20.
Even the 140W is odd, this CPU is rated at 105W. Maybe they don't account for you using every single part of it simultaneously. On Wed, 12 May 2021 10:00:08 +0100, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote: How long for though? I remember a friend getting a hand held Dysan, which said 20 minutes , long enough for a clean, well she never got above ten, maybe she just had thicker dust? Brian -- Sent from my iPhone, this spam courtesy of Apple incorporated. |
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On 12/05/2021 19:50, Commander Kinsey wrote:
All product specs are lies.Â* The CPU cooler in this computer claims it will cool a 300W CPU.Â* Mine gives off only 140W, and that gives a temperature rise of 55C, according to both my readings and those of 3 review sites.Â* 300W would cause a temperature difference of 120C, so to keep it below the usual maximum of 100C, you'd need a room temperature of -20. silicon gives up at around 180°C Even the 140W is odd, this CPU is rated at 105W.Â* Maybe they don't account for you using every single part of it simultaneously. On Wed, 12 May 2021 10:00:08 +0100, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote: How long for though? Â*I remember a friend getting a hand held Dysan, which said 20 minutes , long enough for a clean, well she never got above ten, maybe she just had thicker dust? Â*Brian -- "What do you think about Gay Marriage?" "I don't." "Don't what?" "Think about Gay Marriage." |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
... On 12/05/2021 19:50, Commander Kinsey wrote: All product specs are lies. The CPU cooler in this computer claims it will cool a 300W CPU. Mine gives off only 140W, and that gives a temperature rise of 55C, according to both my readings and those of 3 review sites. 300W would cause a temperature difference of 120C, so to keep it below the usual maximum of 100C, you'd need a room temperature of -20. Could it be that the cooler *would* be able to handle a CPU that dissipated more power, but its fan is thermostatically controlled to cut out / reduce speed once an acceptable temperature is reached. My CPU runs at about 50 deg C. Occasionally the temperature rises and I hear the fan go to jet-aircraft-at-takeoff speed to cool the CPU, then reduce to normal once the temp is back in acceptable limits to avoid a continuous loud noise. |
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Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!
On Thu, 13 May 2021 09:39:42 +0100, The Natural Idiot, the notorious,
troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered again: silicon gives up at around 180°C The trolling Scottish attention whore will NEVER give up as long as you demented senile IDIOTS keep feeding him! |
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Commander Kinsey wrote:
All product specs are lies. The CPU cooler in this computer claims it will cool a 300W CPU. Mine gives off only 140W, and that gives a temperature rise of 55C, according to both my readings and those of 3 review sites. 300W would cause a temperature difference of 120C, so to keep it below the usual maximum of 100C, you'd need a room temperature of -20. Even the 140W is odd, this CPU is rated at 105W. Maybe they don't account for you using every single part of it simultaneously. And how do you know it's 140W ? What would the error bars be on that measurement, in your considered opinion ? One site used to measure the coolers, and it appears to still do some of them. https://www.frostytech.com/articles/2766/4.html Taking an example: Noctua NH-D15 high 10.9C for 125W input or 0.087 C/W. If room is 25C, inside case air is 35C, 140*0.087=12.18C rise or 47C. And the processor in question, never gets even remotely close to throttling temperature. If we try the maths at 300W, 300*0.087=26C and 35C case air gives ~61C at the plate. There is a temperature rise to the CPU die (cooler plate to CPU die path) not covered by that, but it's going to be under 100C at the silicon die. It would pass by a little bit. If we knew your cooler model, it would be easier to work out examples. Maybe Frostytech never measured it, as there's a lot of coolers out there. And measuring them all with a constant jig setup, gives a chance for a fair comparison. Paul |
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Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!
On Thu, 13 May 2021 05:51:03 -0400, Paul, another mentally deficient
troll-feeding senile cretin, blathered: And how do you know it's 140W ? You have to take the trolling attention whore's word for it, troll-feeding senile idiot! |
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Commander Kinsey wrote:
All product specs are lies.* The CPU cooler in this computer claims it will cool a 300W CPU.* Mine gives off only 140W, The TDP figures given by Intel and AMD may be given in "Watts" but they don't correspond to actual watts of power consumed by the processor, they're calculated mumbo-jumbo, then the cooler manufacturers base their recommendations on the CPU manufacturer numbers, so it's lies all the way down ... |
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Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!
On Fri, 14 May 2021 15:05:45 +0100, Andy Burned, another brain dead
troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered: The TDP figures given by Intel and AMD may be given in "Watts" but they don't correspond to actual watts of power consumed by the processor, they're calculated mumbo-jumbo, then the cooler manufacturers base their recommendations on the CPU manufacturer numbers, so it's lies all the way down ... And another HUGE success for the trolling Scottish ******'s latest idiotic thread, thanks to troll-feeding absolutely senile ASSHOLES like you! For him it just means another jerk-off session over the many "replies" he managed to draw from you senile assholes again! BG |
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On Fri, 14 May 2021 15:05:45 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote: All product specs are lies. The CPU cooler in this computer claims it will cool a 300W CPU. Mine gives off only 140W, The TDP figures given by Intel and AMD may be given in "Watts" but they don't correspond to actual watts of power consumed by the processor, they're calculated mumbo-jumbo, then the cooler manufacturers base their recommendations on the CPU manufacturer numbers, so it's lies all the way down ... How hard can it be to quote the TDP as the amount of power the CPU uses (which is the same as the amount of heat it gives off)? -- Sent from my iPhone, this spam courtesy of Apple incorporated. |
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Most absurd lie on a product
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:17:34 +0100, williamwright
wrote: On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries.* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery.* I'm not so sure that's going to work.... It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on. Bill Why has nobody googled for the same part number like I've just done, to find that it's actually 65W? -- Dave W |
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On Wed, 12 May 2021 15:31:01 +0100, Dave W wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:17:34 +0100, williamwright wrote: On 11/05/2021 15:13, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... It'll be 120W. Put your glasses on. Bill Why has nobody googled for the same part number like I've just done, to find that it's actually 65W? Seems like somebody went even further and reported him (it wasn't me). The listing has been removed. -- Sent from my iPhone, this spam courtesy of Apple incorporated. |
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On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463 What happened to the 800W EU limit? Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home? I wonder if they send people round to inspect which type you're operating? -- Sent from my iPhone, this spam courtesy of Apple incorporated. |
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On 11/05/2021 15:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries.* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery.* I'm not so sure that's going to work.... And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463* What happened to the 800W EU limit?* Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home?* I wonder if they send people round to inspect which type you're operating? That is how the law works. Create a law with loopholes and the loopholes are exploited. The same happened with incandescent bulbs, the law allowed you to purchase rugged bulbs. You still can. An LED won't last long as your oven light. |
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Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:27:39 +0100, Fredxx, the notorious, troll-feeding,
senile smartass, blathered again: That is how the law works. Create a law with loopholes and the loopholes are exploited. That is how feeding a troll works. Let the troll set out the dumbest baits and at least one of you troll-feeding, demented, senile idiots will come running along to take it gratefully! |
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On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:27:39 +0100, Fredxx wrote:
On 11/05/2021 15:21, Commander Kinsey wrote: On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463 What happened to the 800W EU limit? Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home? I wonder if they send people round to inspect which type you're operating? That is how the law works. Create a law with loopholes and the loopholes are exploited. Why are lawmakers so thick? The same happened with incandescent bulbs, the law allowed you to purchase rugged bulbs. You still can. An LED won't last long as your oven light. Be a bit of a nuisance lighting your room with oven bulbs. -- Sent from my iPhone, this spam courtesy of Apple incorporated. |
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news  On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463 What happened to the 800W EU limit? Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home? when it looks that ugly yes |
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On 11/05/2021 17:17, tim... wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?Â* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries.Â* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery.Â* I'm not so sure that's going to work.... And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463Â* What happened to the 800W EU limit?Â* Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home? when it looks that ugly yes krauts simply cant do a 'Henry' -- In todays liberal progressive conflict-free education system, everyone gets full Marx. |
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On Tue, 11 May 2021 17:36:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 11/05/2021 17:17, tim... wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463 What happened to the 800W EU limit? Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home? when it looks that ugly yes krauts simply cant do a 'Henry' A vacuum is a tool, not an ornament. You put it in the cupboard when you've finished, you don't have to look at it all day. And actually I prefer the industrial look. I like the Gumpert car for example. And you can get those stupidly small capacity Henrys over the 800W "limit". -- Sent from my iPhone, this spam courtesy of Apple incorporated. |
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On 05/11/2021 12:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 17:36:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 11/05/2021 17:17, tim... wrote: "Commander Kinsey" wrote in message news
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353441460780 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... And this, Germany openly selling an 1800W vacuum! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254936856463 What happened to the 800W EU limit? Or are the morons so stupid as to think nobody would conceivably use an "industrial" vacuum cleaner in their home? when it looks that ugly yes krauts simply cant do a 'Henry' A vacuum is a tool, not an ornament. You put it in the cupboard when you've finished, you don't have to look at it all day. And actually I prefer the industrial look. I like the Gumpert car for example. They are not industrial. This is: https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/22/cars/...uck/index.html |
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Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLES Alert!
On Tue, 11 May 2021 17:17:17 +0100, dim..., another demented troll-feeding
senile idiot, babbled: when it looks that ugly yes It can't be as ugly as you troll-feeding senile assholes are dumb! |
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CAUTION!!! Birdbrain, the Abnormal Pathological Attention Whore, Strikes, AGAIN!
On Tue, 11 May 2021 15:13:23 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (aka "Commander Kinsey",
"James Wilkinson", "Steven ******","Bruce Farquar", "Fred Johnson, etc.), the pathological resident idiot and attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again: FLUSH the subnormal sociopathic trolling attention whore's latest attention-baiting sick bull**** unread again -- about Birdbrain Macaw's (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL) trolling: "He is a well known attention seeking troll and every reply you make feeds him. Starts many threads most of which die quick as on the UK groups anyone with sense Kill filed him ages ago which is why he now cross posts to the US groups for a new audience. This thread was unusual in that it derived and continued without him to a large extent and his silly questioning is an attempt to get noticed again." MID: -- ItsJoanNotJoann addressing Birdbrain Macaw's (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL): "You're an annoying troll and I'm done with you and your stupidity." MID: -- AndyW addressing Birdbrain: "Troll or idiot?... You have been presented with a viewpoint with information, reasoning, historical cases, citations and references to back it up and wilfully ignore all going back to your idea which has no supporting information." MID: -- Phil Lee adressing Birdbrain Macaw: "You are too stupid to be wasting oxygen." MID: -- Phil Lee describing Birdbrain Macaw: "I've never seen such misplaced pride in being a ****ing moronic motorist." MID: -- Tony944 addressing Birdbrain Macaw: "I seen and heard many people but you are on top of list being first class ass hole jerk. ...You fit under unconditional Idiot and should be put in mental institution. MID: -- Pelican to Birdbrain Macaw: "Ok. I'm persuaded . You are an idiot." MID: -- DerbyDad03 addressing Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL): "Frigging Idiot. Get the hell out of my thread." MID: -- Kerr Mudd-John about Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey LOL): "It's like arguing with a demented frog." MID: -- Mr Pounder Esquire about Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL): "the **** poor delivery boy with no hot running water, 11 cats and several parrots living in his hovel." MID: -- Rob Morley about Birdbrain: "He's a perennial idiot" MID: 20170519215057.56a1f1d4@Mars -- JoeyDee to Birdbrain "I apologize for thinking you were a jerk. You're just someone with an IQ lower than your age, and I accept that as a reason for your comments." MID: l-september.org -- Sam Plusnet about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL): "He's just desperate to be noticed. Any attention will do, no matter how negative it may be." MID: -- asking Birdbrain: "What, were you dropped on your head as a child?" MID: -- Christie addressing endlessly driveling Birdbrain Macaw (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL): "What are you resurrecting that old post of mine for? It's from last month some time. You're like a dog who's just dug up an old bone they hid in the garden until they were ready to have another go at it." MID: -- Mr Pounder's fitting description of Birdbrain Macaw: "You are a well known fool, a tosser, a pillock, a stupid unemployable sponging failure who will always live alone and will die alone. You will not be missed." MID: -- Richard to pathetic ****** Hucker: "You haven't bred? Only useful thing you've done in your pathetic existence." MID: -- about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL): ""not the sharpest knife in the drawer"'s parents sure made a serious mistake having him born alive -- A total waste of oxygen, food, space, and bandwidth." MID: -- Mr Pounder exposing sociopathic Birdbrain: "You will always be a lonely sociopath living in a ******** with no hot running water with loads of stinking cats and a few parrots." MID: -- francis about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL): "He seems to have a reputation as someone of limited intelligence" MID: -- Peter Moylan about Birdbrain (now "Commander Kinsey" LOL): "If people like JWS didn't exist, we would have to find some other way to explain the concept of "invincible ignorance"." MID: -- Lewis about nym-shifting Birdbrain: "Typical narcissist troll, thinks his **** is so grand he has the right to try to force it on everyone."FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread MID: |
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On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) 18 Reasons I won't be vaccinated -- https://tinyurl.com/ebty2dx3 Covid vaccines: experimental biology -- https://tinyurl.com/57mncfm5 The fraud of "Climate Change" -- https://RealClimateScience.com Don't talk to cops! -- https://DontTalkToCops.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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Roger Blake wrote
The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months For getting on for a year now actually. and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. Another bare faced lie. It takes years to determine long-term side effects. But with this virus killing so many and producing very serious medical problems with even more, it makes no sense to be testing the vaccines for years before using them on the general public. Particularly with the vaccines that use very traditional vaccine technology. Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition. They actually say they are a lot safer than getting infected by the virus, stupid. |
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More Heavy Trolling by the Senile Octogenarian Nym-Shifting Ozzie Cretin!
On Wed, 12 May 2021 15:01:08 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- Marland answering senile Rodent's statement, "I don't leak": "That¢s because so much **** and ****e emanates from your gob that there is nothing left to exit normally, your arsehole has clammed shut through disuse and the end of prick is only clear because you are such a ******." Message-ID: |
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On 5/12/2021 1:01 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
Roger Blake wrote The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months For getting on for a year now actually. and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. Another bare faced lie. It takes years to determine long-term side effects. But with this virus killing so many and producing very serious medical problems with even more, it makes no sense to be testing the vaccines for years before using them on the general public. Particularly with the vaccines that use very traditional vaccine technology. Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition. They actually say they are a lot safer than getting infected by the virus, stupid. Yup, a democrat administration would have waited months and months and many more deaths to approve the vaccines. |
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Most absurd lie on a product
On 5/12/2021 9:16 AM, Frank wrote:
On 5/12/2021 1:01 AM, Rod Speed wrote: Roger Blake wrote The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months For getting on for a year now actually. and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. Another bare faced lie. It takes years to determine long-term side effects. But with this virus killing so many and producing very serious medical problems with even more, it makes no sense to be testing the vaccines for years before using them on the general public. Particularly with the vaccines that use very traditional vaccine technology. Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition. They actually say they are a lot safer than getting infected by the virus, stupid. Yup, a democrat administration would have waited months and months and many more deaths to approve the vaccines. Nonsense as always, caused by TTS. |
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Most absurd lie on a product
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote: 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition. well its unlikely we know the long term side effects of *not* taking them...or the long term side effects of all the viruses we caught as children. They are safe in the sense that anything is safe. If you expect absolutes, try religion -- €œPeople believe certain stories because everyone important tells them, and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them. Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, ones agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of ones suitability to be taken seriously.€ Paul Krugman |
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Most absurd lie on a product
After serious thinking Roger Blake wrote :
The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. I'll/have risked it, the alternative risk doesn't bare thinking about. |
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Most absurd lie on a product
On Wed, 12 May 2021 09:19:22 +0100, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
After serious thinking Roger Blake wrote : The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. I'll/have risked it, the alternative risk doesn't bare thinking about. The alternative risk is much smaller. You probably won't catch coronavirus, but if you take the vaccine, you have a 100% chance of having it in you. If it turns out to be deadly, I'm going to have a whale of a time in a less cluttered world. -- Sent from my iPhone, this spam courtesy of Apple incorporated. |
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Most absurd lie on a product
Commander Kinsey wrote
Harry Bloomfield wrote Roger Blake wrote The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. I'll/have risked it, the alternative risk doesn't bare thinking about. The alternative risk is much smaller. Nope. You probably won't catch coronavirus, A surprising percentage have in some situations, its very infectious. but if you take the vaccine, you have a 100% chance of having it in you. Yes. If it turns out to be deadly, We know that it isnt for the absolute vast bulk of those vaccinated, that's what the phase 1 and 2 trials proved. I'm going to have a whale of a time in a less cluttered world. That isnt even true of the virus itself. |
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The Two Inseparable Trolling Resident Sociopaths together again!
On Thu, 13 May 2021 07:45:07 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic blather -- TYPICAL retarded "conversation" between sociopath Rodent and sociopath Birdbrain from August 26th 2018: Birdbrain: "I have one head but 5 fingers." Senile Rodent: "Obvious lie. You hairy legged cross dressers are so inbred that you all have two heads." Birdbrain: "You're the one that likes hairy legs remember?" Senile Rodent: "The problem isnt the hairy legs, it's the gross inbreeding that produces two headed unemployables like you." Birdbrain: "So why did you mention hairy legs?" Senile Rodent: "Because that's what those who arent actually stupid enough to shave their legs have." Birdbrain: "You only have hairy legs if both of the following are true: 1) You're quite far back on the evolutionary scale. 2) You haven't learned what a razor is for." Senile Rodent: "Only a terminal ****wit or a woman shaves their legs." Birdbrain: "There is literally zero point in having hair all over your body." Senile Rodent: "There is even less point in wasting your time changing what you are born with." MID: |
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Most absurd lie on a product
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote: 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner? Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries. So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery. I'm not so sure that's going to work.... The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition. A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or, now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus that the immune system can learn the characteristics Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and can cause cumulative damage. I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication. |
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Most absurd lie on a product
On 5/12/21 5:15 AM, Steve Walker wrote:
On 12/05/2021 02:16, Roger Blake wrote: On 2021-05-11, Commander Kinsey wrote: 1200W cordless vacuum cleaner?Â* Running off what looks like 2 18650 Li Ion batteries.Â* So since those are about 4V each, that's 150 amps from one battery.Â* I'm not so sure that's going to work.... The most absurd lie I've seen so far is the "safe and effective" claim being applied to experimental vaccines that have only been in the field for several months and in the U.S. have not even earned FDA approval. It takes years to determine long-term side effects. Those stating the Covid-19 vaccines are "safe" are liars, by definition. A vaccine is not like a medicine though. Typically vaccine side-effects will be seen soon after vaccination and are immune system reactions to it and once the vaccine has been eliminated from the body there are no more effects. They contain killed or weakened virus or, now, an artificial creation with just enough similarity to the virus that the immune system can learn the characteristics Medications are taken for longer periods, have much wider effect and can cause cumulative damage. I'd much rather have a new vaccine than a new medication. People are clotting/dying from the experimental gene therapy so it's clearly not safe. And Fony Fauci claims the "vaccinated" still need to wear a mask so apparently the experimental gene therapy is not effective either. I'm pretty certain this Fauci prick is lying to us. |
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