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Harry Bloomfield wrote:
For several months now, I have had an ongoing itchy rash on the back of
both hands, close to the area of my thumbs. For quite a while, I have
been racking my brain trying to work out what might be causing it. My
best guess was washing up, but I have always done at least my share of
that. Then I realised the rash appeared when we swapped from Fairy, to
Elbow Grease liquid - as it seemed to be just as good and a little
cheaper.

On Thursday in the interests of experimentation, I picked up a 2L
bottle of Fairy and have used that in the days since then (SWMBO is
away). The rash now seems to have almost gone.

As a kid, I had a rash. Turned out to be due to the washing powder my
mother used. So I'd guess a reaction to certain detergents not unusual.

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On 26/04/2021 11:01, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

As a kid, I had a rash. Turned out to be due to the washing powder my
mother used. So I'd guess a reaction to certain detergents not unusual.

My skin is fussy as to what we wash clothes with.

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R D S wrote:
On 26/04/2021 11:01, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

As a kid, I had a rash. Turned out to be due to the washing powder my
mother used. So I'd guess a reaction to certain detergents not unusual.

My skin is fussy as to what we wash clothes with.

Not sure, but think some may react more to bio powders?

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Would you not expect it to be all gone in the rinse stage though? If not you
are replacing one sort of muck with another sort of muck called washing
powder. I use those balls of liquid now, much less mess and then use
slightly diluted comfort. This seems not to cause any issues.
Brian

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On 26/04/2021 11:01, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

As a kid, I had a rash. Turned out to be due to the washing powder my
mother used. So I'd guess a reaction to certain detergents not unusual.

My skin is fussy as to what we wash clothes with.

On 26/04/2021 21:02, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
Would you not expect it to be all gone in the rinse stage though? If not you
are replacing one sort of muck with another sort of muck called washing
powder. I use those balls of liquid now, much less mess and then use
slightly diluted comfort. This seems not to cause any issues.
Brian

Unfortunately the performance standards for washing machines only
include electricity used per cycle, water used per cycle and how clean
the clothes get - and this is tested on an Eco cycle that takes so long
that you will never use it, unless you are going to leave it running
overnight (our new machine takes 4-1/2 hours or more on that setting).

There is no assessment of how well the clothes are rinsed and so
manufacturers use the minimum amount of water and rinses that they can
get away with.

Even our old machine would throw soapy water on the glass door during
the final spin and leave a pool of bubbly water in the door seal.

On 26/04/2021 21:16, Steve Walker wrote:
On 26/04/2021 21:02, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
Would you not expect it to be all gone in the rinse stage though? If
not you
are replacing one sort of muck with another sort of muck called washing
powder. I use those balls of liquid now, much less mess and then use
slightly diluted comfort. This seems not to cause any issues.
Â* Brian

Unfortunately the performance standards for washing machines only
include electricity used per cycle, water used per cycle and how clean
the clothes get - and this is tested on an Eco cycle that takes so long
that you will never use it, unless you are going to leave it running
overnight (our new machine takes 4-1/2 hours or more on that setting).

There is no assessment of how well the clothes are rinsed and so
manufacturers use the minimum amount of water and rinses that they can
get away with.

Even our old machine would throw soapy water on the glass door during
the final spin and leave a pool of bubbly water in the door seal.

This is why I always set my washer to do an extra rinse - it also helps
to get rid of the perfumes they add.

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On 26/04/2021 21:16, Steve Walker wrote:
On 26/04/2021 21:02, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
Would you not expect it to be all gone in the rinse stage though? If not
you
are replacing one sort of muck with another sort of muck called washing
powder. I use those balls of liquid now, much less mess and then use
slightly diluted comfort. This seems not to cause any issues.
Brian

Unfortunately the performance standards for washing machines only include
electricity used per cycle, water used per cycle and how clean the
clothes get - and this is tested on an Eco cycle that takes so long that
you will never use it, unless you are going to leave it running overnight
(our new machine takes 4-1/2 hours or more on that setting).

There is no assessment of how well the clothes are rinsed and so
manufacturers use the minimum amount of water and rinses that they can
get away with.

Even our old machine would throw soapy water on the glass door during the
final spin and leave a pool of bubbly water in the door seal.

This is why I always set my washer to do an extra rinse - it also helps to
get rid of the perfumes they add.

Our washing machine has a 30-minute wash/rinse/slow-spin cycle. It also has
a dedicated rinse-only cycle... which takes 40 minutes. I presume the latter
is a *lot* more thorough with its rinsing - either it sloshes the clothes in
the same rinse water for longer or else it has more empty/fill cycles.


Washing powder versus capsules of liquid... Do the liquid capsules really
dissolve that much better? I've occasionally had clothes that still have a
bit of concentrated liquid in a fold after a wash/rinse/spin programme,
whereas I don't remember ever having clothes with powder gunge on them. If
the powder doesn't fully dissolve, the gunge remains in the drawer and
doesn't seem to make it into the drum and into contact with the clothes. My
wife went through a phase of using "soap nuts" in a plastic "egg". It
probably got the clothes as clean as a capsule, but the absence of any
perfume meant there was nothing to mask the smell of stale "soap nuts" after
they had been used a few times - the nuts are barely soluble so they don't
have to be replaced with every new load of washing.

On 26/04/2021 21:22, S Viemeister wrote:

This is why I always set my washer to do an extra rinse - it also helps
to get rid of the perfumes they add.

+1 (rinse with more water)

I guess also that many people use too much washing power/detergent in
with every load. Half the dose stated on the plastic bottle is
sufficient for the majority of clothes cleaning.

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alan_m wrote:

I guess also that many people use too much washing power/detergent in
with every load. Half the dose stated on the plastic bottle is
sufficient for the majority of clothes cleaning.

The Sainsbury's washing liquid I use has a measuring cap. The
dose size upon which they calculate the number of washes is less
than the lowest marking on the cap.

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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote

Would you not expect it to be all gone in the rinse stage though?

Nope, particularly with the whiter than white detergents.
They work by leaving fluorescents on the washed clothes.

If not you are replacing one sort of muck with another sort of muck called
washing powder.

Yes, but that’s what makes it whiter than white.

I use those balls of liquid now, much less mess and then use slightly
diluted comfort. This seems not to cause any issues.

The only issue I ever have and it’s a massive problem is that
the dark blue T shirts I wear all year round show soap scum.
Never visible on anything else for some odd reason.

"R D S" wrote in message
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On 26/04/2021 11:01, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

As a kid, I had a rash. Turned out to be due to the washing powder my
mother used. So I'd guess a reaction to certain detergents not unusual.

My skin is fussy as to what we wash clothes with.

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On 26/04/2021 21:41, Rod Speed wrote:
Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote

Would you not expect it to be all gone in the rinse stage though?

Nope, particularly with the whiter than white detergents.
They work by leaving fluorescents on the washed clothes.

Or dyed them blue

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