wrote:
Last night we had our first deep freeze for the season. I forgot to
disconnect the PVC pipe in my barn that goes across the ceiling and
thru a wall into another part if the barn. This pipe is designed to
work in the winter by having a large amount of slope, as long as
disconnect all hoses to allow it to drain after using it.

However, in the summer I leave it connected. I did not disconnect it
soon enough and although the water was turned off, there was still
water in the pipe, and last night it froze and split the top most
elbow right in half. The half I found on the barn floor was actually
peeled right off the glue joint, leaving half of both pipes clean and
ready to glue again. But the other half is still glued to the pipes.

I would like to see if there is a way to neatly pull the other half of
this elbow cleanly off the glue so I can install a new elbow without
moving pipes or adding couplers and pieces of pipe. In other words,
there is really no spare pipe to cut off at the glue ends, unless I
tore the whole thing down to adjust the position of the pipes so they
are aligned. I'd much rather spend a little time trying to cleanly
take off the other half of that elbow than to tear this whole thing
apart. Adding couplers and short pieces of pipe are an option, but I
like to avoid adding all sorts of extra parts, not to mention I will
have to buy a whole 10ft. piece of pipe for 8 inches.

Is there a way to "pick off" the elbow at the glue? Is there any sort
of solvent that will help dissolve the glue?

BTW This is ONE INCH PVC.

Thanks

Timothy

Sorry it is not glued it is one with the pipe. Cut it off and use a
coupling or two. That is not glue, it is a solvent.


--
Joseph E. Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math

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I would like to see if there is a way to neatly pull the other half of
this elbow cleanly off the glue so I can install a new elbow without
moving pipes or adding couplers and pieces of pipe. In other words,
there is really no spare pipe to cut off at the glue ends, unless I
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BTW This is ONE INCH PVC.


I haven't seen them in 1" but I'd try to find one of those soft rubber
fittings with worm clamps. [Fernco is what we see in this part of
the world- there might be competitors- http://www.fernco.com/QL.html ]

That way, next time you forget or it goes down to 20 in late
September- the ice won't break anything.

Jim

If the glued joints did not take well due to dirt or a poor fit, it is
possible to chisel off the remaining pieces. Use a wood chisel and a light
hammer and try to get under the couplings to pry them away. Once it is all
off, sand the joints down to get all of the rough spots out. Use a pvc
cleaner on everything before attempting to glue the new couplings in place.
Be sure to apply glue to the couplings and the new elbow when putting them
together.

Personally I think that you are better off fitting in all new sections
rather than working with the old stuff if it is possible. One length of pvc
and a few couplings will only cost a few bucks for piece of mind. Be sure
that all joints are clean and free of burrs. Use pvc cleaner on everything
and apply glue to all parts.


John Grabowski
http://www.mrelectrician.tv



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Last night we had our first deep freeze for the season. I forgot to
disconnect the PVC pipe in my barn that goes across the ceiling and
thru a wall into another part if the barn. This pipe is designed to
work in the winter by having a large amount of slope, as long as
disconnect all hoses to allow it to drain after using it.

However, in the summer I leave it connected. I did not disconnect it
soon enough and although the water was turned off, there was still
water in the pipe, and last night it froze and split the top most
elbow right in half. The half I found on the barn floor was actually
peeled right off the glue joint, leaving half of both pipes clean and
ready to glue again. But the other half is still glued to the pipes.

I would like to see if there is a way to neatly pull the other half of
this elbow cleanly off the glue so I can install a new elbow without
moving pipes or adding couplers and pieces of pipe. In other words,
there is really no spare pipe to cut off at the glue ends, unless I
tore the whole thing down to adjust the position of the pipes so they
are aligned. I'd much rather spend a little time trying to cleanly
take off the other half of that elbow than to tear this whole thing
apart. Adding couplers and short pieces of pipe are an option, but I
like to avoid adding all sorts of extra parts, not to mention I will
have to buy a whole 10ft. piece of pipe for 8 inches.

Is there a way to "pick off" the elbow at the glue? Is there any sort
of solvent that will help dissolve the glue?

BTW This is ONE INCH PVC.

Thanks

Timothy

On 11/26/2004 9:01 AM US(ET), John Grabowski took fingers to keys, and
typed the following:

If the glued joints did not take well due to dirt or a poor fit, it is
possible to chisel off the remaining pieces. Use a wood chisel and a light
hammer and try to get under the couplings to pry them away. Once it is all
off, sand the joints down to get all of the rough spots out. Use a pvc
cleaner on everything before attempting to glue the new couplings in place.
Be sure to apply glue to the couplings and the new elbow when putting them
together.


Not to mention, that all this work will have to be done overhead, and
just to save buying a 10' piece of 1" PVC which will cost about $2.50.

Personally I think that you are better off fitting in all new sections
rather than working with the old stuff if it is possible. One length of pvc
and a few couplings will only cost a few bucks for piece of mind. Be sure
that all joints are clean and free of burrs. Use pvc cleaner on everything
and apply glue to all parts.


John Grabowski
http://www.mrelectrician.tv



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Last night we had our first deep freeze for the season. I forgot to
disconnect the PVC pipe in my barn that goes across the ceiling and
thru a wall into another part if the barn. This pipe is designed to
work in the winter by having a large amount of slope, as long as
disconnect all hoses to allow it to drain after using it.

However, in the summer I leave it connected. I did not disconnect it
soon enough and although the water was turned off, there was still
water in the pipe, and last night it froze and split the top most
elbow right in half. The half I found on the barn floor was actually
peeled right off the glue joint, leaving half of both pipes clean and
ready to glue again. But the other half is still glued to the pipes.

I would like to see if there is a way to neatly pull the other half of
this elbow cleanly off the glue so I can install a new elbow without
moving pipes or adding couplers and pieces of pipe. In other words,
there is really no spare pipe to cut off at the glue ends, unless I
tore the whole thing down to adjust the position of the pipes so they
are aligned. I'd much rather spend a little time trying to cleanly
take off the other half of that elbow than to tear this whole thing
apart. Adding couplers and short pieces of pipe are an option, but I
like to avoid adding all sorts of extra parts, not to mention I will
have to buy a whole 10ft. piece of pipe for 8 inches.

Is there a way to "pick off" the elbow at the glue? Is there any sort
of solvent that will help dissolve the glue?

BTW This is ONE INCH PVC.

Thanks

Timothy

"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message .. .
wrote:
Last night we had our first deep freeze for the season. I forgot to
disconnect the PVC pipe in my barn that goes across the ceiling and
thru a wall into another part if the barn. This pipe is designed to
work in the winter by having a large amount of slope, as long as
disconnect all hoses to allow it to drain after using it.

However, in the summer I leave it connected. I did not disconnect it
soon enough and although the water was turned off, there was still
water in the pipe, and last night it froze and split the top most
elbow right in half. The half I found on the barn floor was actually
peeled right off the glue joint, leaving half of both pipes clean and
ready to glue again. But the other half is still glued to the pipes.

I would like to see if there is a way to neatly pull the other half of
this elbow cleanly off the glue so I can install a new elbow without
moving pipes or adding couplers and pieces of pipe. In other words,
there is really no spare pipe to cut off at the glue ends, unless I
tore the whole thing down to adjust the position of the pipes so they
are aligned. I'd much rather spend a little time trying to cleanly
take off the other half of that elbow than to tear this whole thing
apart. Adding couplers and short pieces of pipe are an option, but I
like to avoid adding all sorts of extra parts, not to mention I will
have to buy a whole 10ft. piece of pipe for 8 inches.

Is there a way to "pick off" the elbow at the glue? Is there any sort
of solvent that will help dissolve the glue?

BTW This is ONE INCH PVC.

Thanks

Timothy

Sorry it is not glued it is one with the pipe. Cut it off and use a
coupling or two. That is not glue, it is a solvent.

You can try to repair it but be ready to replace it. Thoroughly clean
the half that came off and the pipe it came off of. Use PVC cleaner
and then dope the H*** out of them with glue and apply. The fit needs
to be tight.

Harry K

There are several "drills" made for your problem. I have also had
good luck using a small screwdriver and hammer to chip out the
existing pieces, though you must be mentally prepared for this
method to not work. Here are some of the drills:

http://www.plumbingstore.com/pvcsaver.html



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wrote in message
...
Last night we had our first deep freeze for the season. I
forgot to
disconnect the PVC pipe in my barn that goes across the ceiling
and
thru a wall into another part if the barn. This pipe is
designed to
work in the winter by having a large amount of slope, as long as
disconnect all hoses to allow it to drain after using it.

However, in the summer I leave it connected. I did not
disconnect it
soon enough and although the water was turned off, there was
still
water in the pipe, and last night it froze and split the top
most
elbow right in half. The half I found on the barn floor was
actually
peeled right off the glue joint, leaving half of both pipes
clean and
ready to glue again. But the other half is still glued to the
pipes.

I would like to see if there is a way to neatly pull the other
half of
this elbow cleanly off the glue so I can install a new elbow
without
moving pipes or adding couplers and pieces of pipe. In other
words,
there is really no spare pipe to cut off at the glue ends,
unless I
tore the whole thing down to adjust the position of the pipes so
they
are aligned. I'd much rather spend a little time trying to
cleanly
take off the other half of that elbow than to tear this whole
thing
apart. Adding couplers and short pieces of pipe are an option,
but I
like to avoid adding all sorts of extra parts, not to mention I
will
have to buy a whole 10ft. piece of pipe for 8 inches.

Is there a way to "pick off" the elbow at the glue? Is there
any sort
of solvent that will help dissolve the glue?

BTW This is ONE INCH PVC.

Thanks

Timothy

go to home depot and get a compression repair fitting . there about 6'' long
and have rubber sleeves on both ends .But really it's easier and faster to cut
and re-solvent the broken section than what your asking to do.

Lowes sells short peices of pipe, but it's not much cheaper than a 10'?
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Last night we had our first deep freeze for the season. I forgot to
disconnect the PVC pipe in my barn that goes across the ceiling and
thru a wall into another part if the barn. This pipe is designed to
work in the winter by having a large amount of slope, as long as
disconnect all hoses to allow it to drain after using it.

However, in the summer I leave it connected. I did not disconnect it
soon enough and although the water was turned off, there was still
water in the pipe, and last night it froze and split the top most
elbow right in half. The half I found on the barn floor was actually
peeled right off the glue joint, leaving half of both pipes clean and
ready to glue again. But the other half is still glued to the pipes.

I would like to see if there is a way to neatly pull the other half of
this elbow cleanly off the glue so I can install a new elbow without
moving pipes or adding couplers and pieces of pipe. In other words,
there is really no spare pipe to cut off at the glue ends, unless I
tore the whole thing down to adjust the position of the pipes so they
are aligned. I'd much rather spend a little time trying to cleanly
take off the other half of that elbow than to tear this whole thing
apart. Adding couplers and short pieces of pipe are an option, but I
like to avoid adding all sorts of extra parts, not to mention I will
have to buy a whole 10ft. piece of pipe for 8 inches.

Is there a way to "pick off" the elbow at the glue? Is there any sort
of solvent that will help dissolve the glue?

BTW This is ONE INCH PVC.

Thanks

Timothy

yes they make them in 1''